[AFMUG] PPPoE: How are you running it?
Good morning all! Currently we are running it on the CPE, but are considering moving it to the customer router. We were advised to put PPPoE on the CPE and configure the customer router as an AP (disable dhcp, plug it into a lan port instead of the wan/internet,etc). My preference is to bridge the CPE and run it on the customer router, but I am open to suggestions. What is your preference? -- Micah Miller Network/Server Administrator Network Business Systems, Inc. Phone: 309-944-8823
Re: [AFMUG] PPPoE: How are you running it?
I always have preferred running the CPE as a bridge, less issues IMO. Although, with PPPoE you do run the risk of customers resetting their router to default or replacing it and not being able to get online without assistance - so there are trade-offs. On Tuesday, October 17, 2017, Micah Miller wrote: > Good morning all! > > Currently we are running it on the CPE, but are considering moving it > to the customer router. > We were advised to put PPPoE on the CPE and configure the customer > router as an AP (disable dhcp, plug it into a lan port instead of the > wan/internet,etc). > My preference is to bridge the CPE and run it on the customer router, > but I am open to suggestions. > > What is your preference? > > -- > Micah Miller > Network/Server Administrator > Network Business Systems, Inc. > Phone: 309-944-8823 >
Re: [AFMUG] PPPoE: How are you running it?
Lots of people prefer to let radios do what they do best.. RF, not routing, not PPPoE termination. Leave the CPU cycles of the radio to RF, and let a router (or other device) behind the CPE do (mostly) everything else. On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 11:22 AM, Micah Miller wrote: > Good morning all! > > Currently we are running it on the CPE, but are considering moving it > to the customer router. > We were advised to put PPPoE on the CPE and configure the customer > router as an AP (disable dhcp, plug it into a lan port instead of the > wan/internet,etc). > My preference is to bridge the CPE and run it on the customer router, > but I am open to suggestions. > > What is your preference? > > -- > Micah Miller > Network/Server Administrator > Network Business Systems, Inc. > Phone: 309-944-8823 >
Re: [AFMUG] PPPoE: How are you running it?
I would do as you're advised. :-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Micah Miller" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2017 10:22:28 AM Subject: [AFMUG] PPPoE: How are you running it? Good morning all! Currently we are running it on the CPE, but are considering moving it to the customer router. We were advised to put PPPoE on the CPE and configure the customer router as an AP (disable dhcp, plug it into a lan port instead of the wan/internet,etc). My preference is to bridge the CPE and run it on the customer router, but I am open to suggestions. What is your preference? -- Micah Miller Network/Server Administrator Network Business Systems, Inc. Phone: 309-944-8823
Re: [AFMUG] PPPoE: How are you running it?
I don’t think leaving the layer2 bridged connection from your CPE to your network open is well advised. I would let the CPE do the PPPoE session and let the client router be a bridge as you have been. There is no point in having more IPs than needed, plus it eliminates the possibly for your client to do something wrong, either on purpose or not. Just my two cents. If PPPoE is eating up CPU, my suggestion is get a new cpe, as it don’t take that long to do. Dennis Burgess – Network Solution Engineer – Consultant MikroTik Certified Trainer/Consultant<http://www.linktechs.net/productcart/pc/viewcontent.asp?idpage=5> – MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE For Wireless Hardware/Routers visit www.linktechs.net<http://www.linktechs.net/> Radio Frequency Coverages: www.towercoverage.com<http://www.towercoverage.com/> Office: 314-735-0270 E-Mail: dmburg...@linktechs.net<mailto:dmburg...@linktechs.net> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2017 10:36 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PPPoE: How are you running it? I would do as you're advised. :-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions<http://www.ics-il.com/> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]<https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/ICSIL> Midwest Internet Exchange<http://www.midwest-ix.com/> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/mdwestix> The Brothers WISP<http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/youtubeicon.png] <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> From: "Micah Miller" mailto:mi...@nbson.com>> To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2017 10:22:28 AM Subject: [AFMUG] PPPoE: How are you running it? Good morning all! Currently we are running it on the CPE, but are considering moving it to the customer router. We were advised to put PPPoE on the CPE and configure the customer router as an AP (disable dhcp, plug it into a lan port instead of the wan/internet,etc). My preference is to bridge the CPE and run it on the customer router, but I am open to suggestions. What is your preference? -- Micah Miller Network/Server Administrator Network Business Systems, Inc. Phone: 309-944-8823
Re: [AFMUG] PPPoE: How are you running it?
We run the SMs bridged, but we put the LAN0 port of the SM on a tagged VLAN (add WLAN0.50 interface, bridge WLAN0.50 and LAN0 together). On that tagged VLAN, we only allow PPPoE connections. Yes, when a customer resets their router, we have to talk them through PPPoE config, but at least the router's wizard is detecting that PPPoE is the only available Internet connection. (Besides, you still have to talk them through DHCP disable if they reset their router under your current scenario anyway). Their traffic is isolated from the CPE and AP management (at L2) and we disallow L3 traffic to infrastructure prefixes at the routers. We really don't want the CPE's involved in L3 Internet reachability for customer traffic. Just our philosophy; we treat the SMs as infrastructure, not customer equipment. Jesse DuPont Network Architect email: jesse.dup...@celeritycorp.net Celerity Networks LLC Celerity Broadband LLC Like us! facebook.com/celeritynetworksllc Like us! facebook.com/celeritybroadband On 10/17/17 9:22 AM, Micah Miller wrote: Good morning all! Currently we are running it on the CPE, but are considering moving it to the customer router. We were advised to put PPPoE on the CPE and configure the customer router as an AP (disable dhcp, plug it into a lan port instead of the wan/internet,etc). My preference is to bridge the CPE and run it on the customer router, but I am open to suggestions. What is your preference?
