Re: [AFMUG] PtP Link w\ Foliage

2017-01-11 Thread Dave

George,
Give me your ship to and ill send ya some to replenish your stock :)



On 01/11/2017 10:25 AM, George Skorup wrote:
Mike, if this is a one-off project that you're just looking to get out 
of the way, then I'm sure I can dig through our piles of 900 FSK 
radios and find a couple P9 APs. The problem with P9s is the GUI is 
horribly slow when there's 15-20+ SMs registered, but for a PTP link 
it's more than fine. Send me a shipping label and you can have them. 
Or come pick them up. I'll even give you a couple KP or M2 yagis. Or 
h-pol SuperStingers. I think we still even have some new ones.


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Re: [AFMUG] PtP Link w\ Foliage

2017-01-11 Thread George Skorup
Mike, if this is a one-off project that you're just looking to get out 
of the way, then I'm sure I can dig through our piles of 900 FSK radios 
and find a couple P9 APs. The problem with P9s is the GUI is horribly 
slow when there's 15-20+ SMs registered, but for a PTP link it's more 
than fine. Send me a shipping label and you can have them. Or come pick 
them up. I'll even give you a couple KP or M2 yagis. Or h-pol 
SuperStingers. I think we still even have some new ones.


Re: [AFMUG] PtP Link w\ Foliage

2017-01-11 Thread Jesse DuPont

  
  
We have a 900 MHz PTP link using UBNT NanoStation Loco M900 on each
end. It's about 1/2 mile, through a few trees (I wouldn't say thick
trees), signal -51, 20 MHz channel, peaks about 28 Mbps most nights.


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 1/11/17 7:28 AM, Mitch Koep wrote:


  
  Mike
  We use UBNT RM9 and KP yagi for shot just like that
  for hard to reach customers
  With 20Mhz channel they see about 16 to 18 meg thru
  Mitch
  
  
  On 01/10/2017 10:12 PM, Colin
Stanners wrote:
  
  
Should work quite well. I imagine PDMnet has lots
  of FSK 900APs and SMs for sale.

  On Jan 10, 2017 9:32 PM, "Mike
Hammett" 
wrote:

  
Would
  a PtP link in 900 with FSK gear be appropriate for a
  1/2 mile shot with trees and whatnot? It is in a river
  valley, connecting buildings on either side of the
  river.
  
  It's just running a webcam and it's going to DSL, so
  there's not THAT much throughput needed or available.
  AP at camera side, CPE at DSL side was my idea.
  
  That can't cost more than a few hundred bucks now, can
  it?
  
  

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Mike
  Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions

Midwest Internet Exchange

The Brothers WISP

  
  

  

  

  

  
  


  



Re: [AFMUG] PtP Link w\ Foliage

2017-01-11 Thread Mathew Howard
UBNT 900mhz works fairly well for PtP shots, and it will get more
bandwidth. But if 4mbps is all you need, FSK tends to work a bit more
consistently... and it might be a little cheaper.

On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 8:28 AM, Mitch Koep  wrote:

> Mike
>
> We use UBNT RM9 and KP yagi for shot just like that
>
> for hard to reach customers
>
> With 20Mhz channel they see about 16 to 18 meg thru
>
> Mitch
>
> On 01/10/2017 10:12 PM, Colin Stanners wrote:
>
> Should work quite well. I imagine PDMnet has lots of FSK 900APs and SMs
> for sale.
>
> On Jan 10, 2017 9:32 PM, "Mike Hammett"  wrote:
>
>> Would a PtP link in 900 with FSK gear be appropriate for a 1/2 mile shot
>> with trees and whatnot? It is in a river valley, connecting buildings on
>> either side of the river.
>>
>> It's just running a webcam and it's going to DSL, so there's not THAT
>> much throughput needed or available. AP at camera side, CPE at DSL side was
>> my idea.
>>
>> That can't cost more than a few hundred bucks now, can it?
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Midwest Internet Exchange 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The Brothers WISP 
>> 
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>
>


Re: [AFMUG] PtP Link w\ Foliage

2017-01-11 Thread Mitch Koep

Mike

We use UBNT RM9 and KP yagi for shot just like that

for hard to reach customers

With 20Mhz channel they see about 16 to 18 meg thru

Mitch


On 01/10/2017 10:12 PM, Colin Stanners wrote:


Should work quite well. I imagine PDMnet has lots of FSK 900APs and 
SMs for sale.



On Jan 10, 2017 9:32 PM, "Mike Hammett" > wrote:


Would a PtP link in 900 with FSK gear be appropriate for a 1/2
mile shot with trees and whatnot? It is in a river valley,
connecting buildings on either side of the river.

It's just running a webcam and it's going to DSL, so there's not
THAT much throughput needed or available. AP at camera side, CPE
at DSL side was my idea.

That can't cost more than a few hundred bucks now, can it?



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions 


Midwest Internet Exchange 


The Brothers WISP 









Re: [AFMUG] PtP Link w\ Foliage

2017-01-11 Thread Mike Hammett
That should be enough capacity for a webcam on DSL. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "David Milholen" <dmilho...@wletc.com> 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2017 7:18:05 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PtP Link w\ Foliage 


YES, Should work fine depending on tree foilage density and type. 
Pine = NO :) 
Leafy type should work fine. 
Keep in mind 900 fsk is only 7.5Mhz wide and is only capable of about 4Mbs 



On 1/10/2017 9:32 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: 



Would a PtP link in 900 with FSK gear be appropriate for a 1/2 mile shot with 
trees and whatnot? It is in a river valley, connecting buildings on either side 
of the river. 

It's just running a webcam and it's going to DSL, so there's not THAT much 
throughput needed or available. AP at camera side, CPE at DSL side was my idea. 

That can't cost more than a few hundred bucks now, can it? 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 








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Re: [AFMUG] PtP Link w\ Foliage

2017-01-11 Thread David Milholen

YES, Should work fine depending on tree foilage density and type.

Pine = NO :)

Leafy type should work fine.

Keep in mind 900 fsk is only 7.5Mhz wide and is only capable of about 4Mbs



On 1/10/2017 9:32 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
Would a PtP link in 900 with FSK gear be appropriate for a 1/2 mile 
shot with trees and whatnot? It is in a river valley, connecting 
buildings on either side of the river.


It's just running a webcam and it's going to DSL, so there's not THAT 
much throughput needed or available. AP at camera side, CPE at DSL 
side was my idea.


That can't cost more than a few hundred bucks now, can it?



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 






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Re: [AFMUG] PtP Link w\ Foliage

2017-01-10 Thread Colin Stanners
Should work quite well. I imagine PDMnet has lots of FSK 900APs and SMs for
sale.

On Jan 10, 2017 9:32 PM, "Mike Hammett"  wrote:

> Would a PtP link in 900 with FSK gear be appropriate for a 1/2 mile shot
> with trees and whatnot? It is in a river valley, connecting buildings on
> either side of the river.
>
> It's just running a webcam and it's going to DSL, so there's not THAT much
> throughput needed or available. AP at camera side, CPE at DSL side was my
> idea.
>
> That can't cost more than a few hundred bucks now, can it?
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Midwest Internet Exchange 
> 
> 
> 
> The Brothers WISP 
> 
>
>
> 
>


[AFMUG] PtP Link w\ Foliage

2017-01-10 Thread Mike Hammett
Would a PtP link in 900 with FSK gear be appropriate for a 1/2 mile shot with 
trees and whatnot? It is in a river valley, connecting buildings on either side 
of the river. 

It's just running a webcam and it's going to DSL, so there's not THAT much 
throughput needed or available. AP at camera side, CPE at DSL side was my idea. 

That can't cost more than a few hundred bucks now, can it? 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP