[AFMUG] Tower maintenance training

2016-09-06 Thread Jay Weekley 
We've got some towers that our climbers are concerned about because they 
feel the guy wires are loose. We've had them checked by the HAM that 
built several of our towers including one in question and he said they 
are fine but there does seem to be a difference in the slack compared to 
other towers we own.  Is there hands on training we can get on 
tensioning guy wires or is someone in the southeast willing to host two 
or three people for a few hours for training?

Re: [AFMUG] Tower maintenance training

2016-09-06 Thread chuck 
You gotta wonder how the ham checked it.  I would want to know the type of 
tensiometer.  If he came back with "what is a tensiometer" then I would be 
concerned about climbing it too.


-Original Message- 
From: Jay Weekley

Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 3:13 PM
To: Principal WISPA Member List ; Animal Farm
Subject: [AFMUG] Tower maintenance training

We've got some towers that our climbers are concerned about because they
feel the guy wires are loose. We've had them checked by the HAM that
built several of our towers including one in question and he said they
are fine but there does seem to be a difference in the slack compared to
other towers we own.  Is there hands on training we can get on
tensioning guy wires or is someone in the southeast willing to host two
or three people for a few hours for training?

Re: [AFMUG] Tower maintenance training

2016-09-06 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm 
my guy might be able to do that, he is an instructor for the railroad, he
does a yearly mini tower climbing/safety for us. Unless you send your guys
to become certified inspectors, nobody will give you anything that is
formal, and youll have to sign a release of liability, but better to know
the info than not

On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 4:16 PM,  wrote:

> You gotta wonder how the ham checked it.  I would want to know the type of
> tensiometer.  If he came back with "what is a tensiometer" then I would be
> concerned about climbing it too.
>
> -Original Message- From: Jay Weekley
> Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 3:13 PM
> To: Principal WISPA Member List ; Animal Farm
> Subject: [AFMUG] Tower maintenance training
>
>
> We've got some towers that our climbers are concerned about because they
> feel the guy wires are loose. We've had them checked by the HAM that
> built several of our towers including one in question and he said they
> are fine but there does seem to be a difference in the slack compared to
> other towers we own.  Is there hands on training we can get on
> tensioning guy wires or is someone in the southeast willing to host two
> or three people for a few hours for training?
>



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Re: [AFMUG] Tower maintenance training

2016-09-06 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller 

Might be better to have a tower company come and look at our towers once a year?

  - Original Message - 
  From: That One Guy /sarcasm 
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2016 5:15 PM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tower maintenance training


  my guy might be able to do that, he is an instructor for the railroad, he 
does a yearly mini tower climbing/safety for us. Unless you send your guys to 
become certified inspectors, nobody will give you anything that is formal, and 
youll have to sign a release of liability, but better to know the info than not 


  On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 4:16 PM,  wrote:

You gotta wonder how the ham checked it.  I would want to know the type of 
tensiometer.  If he came back with "what is a tensiometer" then I would be 
concerned about climbing it too.

-Original Message- From: Jay Weekley
Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 3:13 PM
To: Principal WISPA Member List ; Animal Farm
Subject: [AFMUG] Tower maintenance training


We've got some towers that our climbers are concerned about because they
feel the guy wires are loose. We've had them checked by the HAM that
built several of our towers including one in question and he said they
are fine but there does seem to be a difference in the slack compared to
other towers we own.  Is there hands on training we can get on
tensioning guy wires or is someone in the southeast willing to host two
or three people for a few hours for training? 






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Re: [AFMUG] Tower maintenance training

2016-09-06 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm 
we are trying to have that done every three on the few towers we are still
on

On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 5:41 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller 
wrote:

>
> Might be better to have a tower company come and look at our towers once a
> year?
>
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm 
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 06, 2016 5:15 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Tower maintenance training
>
> my guy might be able to do that, he is an instructor for the railroad, he
> does a yearly mini tower climbing/safety for us. Unless you send your guys
> to become certified inspectors, nobody will give you anything that is
> formal, and youll have to sign a release of liability, but better to know
> the info than not
>
> On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 4:16 PM,  wrote:
>
>> You gotta wonder how the ham checked it.  I would want to know the type
>> of tensiometer.  If he came back with "what is a tensiometer" then I would
>> be concerned about climbing it too.
>>
>> -Original Message- From: Jay Weekley
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 3:13 PM
>> To: Principal WISPA Member List ; Animal Farm
>> Subject: [AFMUG] Tower maintenance training
>>
>>
>> We've got some towers that our climbers are concerned about because they
>> feel the guy wires are loose. We've had them checked by the HAM that
>> built several of our towers including one in question and he said they
>> are fine but there does seem to be a difference in the slack compared to
>> other towers we own.  Is there hands on training we can get on
>> tensioning guy wires or is someone in the southeast willing to host two
>> or three people for a few hours for training?
>>
>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>
>


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Re: [AFMUG] Tower maintenance training

2016-09-06 Thread Daniel White 
Safety is something never to screw with.



I’d find a local tower company to come out and do a check.  That should come 
with a report indicating what the spec range is and what the tower is currently 
at.



My GoogleFo found this:  
http://www.allcomm.com/towers/maintenance_inspection.htm



Daniel White

Managing Director – Hardware Distribution Sales

ConVergence Technologies

Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590

 <mailto:dwh...@converge-tech.com> dwh...@converge-tech.com



From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of CBB - Jay Fuller
Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 4:41 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tower maintenance training





Might be better to have a tower company come and look at our towers once a year?



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From: That One Guy /sarcasm <mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>

To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>

Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2016 5:15 PM

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tower maintenance training



my guy might be able to do that, he is an instructor for the railroad, he does 
a yearly mini tower climbing/safety for us. Unless you send your guys to become 
certified inspectors, nobody will give you anything that is formal, and youll 
have to sign a release of liability, but better to know the info than not



On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 4:16 PM, mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> > 
wrote:

You gotta wonder how the ham checked it.  I would want to know the type of 
tensiometer.  If he came back with "what is a tensiometer" then I would be 
concerned about climbing it too.

-Original Message- From: Jay Weekley
Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 3:13 PM
To: Principal WISPA Member List ; Animal Farm
Subject: [AFMUG] Tower maintenance training



We've got some towers that our climbers are concerned about because they
feel the guy wires are loose. We've had them checked by the HAM that
built several of our towers including one in question and he said they
are fine but there does seem to be a difference in the slack compared to
other towers we own.  Is there hands on training we can get on
tensioning guy wires or is someone in the southeast willing to host two
or three people for a few hours for training?







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Re: [AFMUG] Tower maintenance training

2016-09-06 Thread Chuck McCown 
I always worry about the guy anchors.  No good way to inspect or test them.  

From: Daniel White 
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2016 5:43 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tower maintenance training

Safety is something never to screw with.

 

I’d find a local tower company to come out and do a check.  That should come 
with a report indicating what the spec range is and what the tower is currently 
at.

 

My GoogleFo found this:  
http://www.allcomm.com/towers/maintenance_inspection.htm

 

Daniel White

Managing Director – Hardware Distribution Sales

ConVergence Technologies

Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590

dwh...@converge-tech.com

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of CBB - Jay Fuller
Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 4:41 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tower maintenance training

 

 

Might be better to have a tower company come and look at our towers once a year?

 

  - Original Message - 

  From: That One Guy /sarcasm 

  To: af@afmug.com 

  Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2016 5:15 PM

  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tower maintenance training

   

  my guy might be able to do that, he is an instructor for the railroad, he 
does a yearly mini tower climbing/safety for us. Unless you send your guys to 
become certified inspectors, nobody will give you anything that is formal, and 
youll have to sign a release of liability, but better to know the info than not 

   

  On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 4:16 PM,  wrote:

You gotta wonder how the ham checked it.  I would want to know the type of 
tensiometer.  If he came back with "what is a tensiometer" then I would be 
concerned about climbing it too.

-Original Message- From: Jay Weekley
Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 3:13 PM
To: Principal WISPA Member List ; Animal Farm
Subject: [AFMUG] Tower maintenance training 



We've got some towers that our climbers are concerned about because they
feel the guy wires are loose. We've had them checked by the HAM that
built several of our towers including one in question and he said they
are fine but there does seem to be a difference in the slack compared to
other towers we own.  Is there hands on training we can get on
tensioning guy wires or is someone in the southeast willing to host two
or three people for a few hours for training? 





   

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Re: [AFMUG] Tower maintenance training

2016-09-06 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller 

Yup.  We have dealt with Allcomm before.
That would be my suggestion.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Daniel White 
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2016 6:43 PM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tower maintenance training


  Safety is something never to screw with.

   

  I’d find a local tower company to come out and do a check.  That should come 
with a report indicating what the spec range is and what the tower is currently 
at.

   

  My GoogleFo found this:  
http://www.allcomm.com/towers/maintenance_inspection.htm

   

  Daniel White

  Managing Director – Hardware Distribution Sales

  ConVergence Technologies

  Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590

  dwh...@converge-tech.com

   

  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of CBB - Jay Fuller
  Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 4:41 PM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tower maintenance training

   

   

  Might be better to have a tower company come and look at our towers once a 
year?

   

- Original Message - 

From: That One Guy /sarcasm 

To: af@afmug.com 

Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2016 5:15 PM

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tower maintenance training

 

my guy might be able to do that, he is an instructor for the railroad, he 
does a yearly mini tower climbing/safety for us. Unless you send your guys to 
become certified inspectors, nobody will give you anything that is formal, and 
youll have to sign a release of liability, but better to know the info than not 

 

On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 4:16 PM,  wrote:

  You gotta wonder how the ham checked it.  I would want to know the type 
of tensiometer.  If he came back with "what is a tensiometer" then I would be 
concerned about climbing it too.

  -Original Message- From: Jay Weekley
  Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 3:13 PM
  To: Principal WISPA Member List ; Animal Farm
  Subject: [AFMUG] Tower maintenance training 



  We've got some towers that our climbers are concerned about because they
  feel the guy wires are loose. We've had them checked by the HAM that
  built several of our towers including one in question and he said they
  are fine but there does seem to be a difference in the slack compared to
  other towers we own.  Is there hands on training we can get on
  tensioning guy wires or is someone in the southeast willing to host two
  or three people for a few hours for training? 





 

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Re: [AFMUG] Tower maintenance training

2016-09-06 Thread Adam Moffett 
Probably he plucked like a guitar string and figured if it didn't break 
it was ok.
I've seen a HAM tower guyed with poly rope.  I told him he had to climb 
it himself if he wanted the antenna on it.  He did it, the whole 
structure swayed while he was on it.  No thanks.



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Sent: 9/6/2016 5:16:48 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tower maintenance training

You gotta wonder how the ham checked it.  I would want to know the type 
of tensiometer.  If he came back with "what is a tensiometer" then I 
would be concerned about climbing it too.


-Original Message- From: Jay Weekley
Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 3:13 PM
To: Principal WISPA Member List ; Animal Farm
Subject: [AFMUG] Tower maintenance training

We've got some towers that our climbers are concerned about because 
they

feel the guy wires are loose. We've had them checked by the HAM that
built several of our towers including one in question and he said they
are fine but there does seem to be a difference in the slack compared 
to

other towers we own.  Is there hands on training we can get on
tensioning guy wires or is someone in the southeast willing to host two
or three people for a few hours for training?

Re: [AFMUG] Tower maintenance training

2016-09-06 Thread Eric Kuhnke 
There is, from a technical perspective, it's just costly...  Concrete
x-raying services such as you would employ before core-drilling a hole
through a slab in a major office building.

On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 5:03 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

> I always worry about the guy anchors.  No good way to inspect or test
> them.
>
> *From:* Daniel White 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 06, 2016 5:43 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Tower maintenance training
>
>
> Safety is something never to screw with.
>
>
>
> I’d find a local tower company to come out and do a check.  That should
> come with a report indicating what the spec range is and what the tower is
> currently at.
>
>
>
> My GoogleFo found this:  http://www.allcomm.com/towers/
> maintenance_inspection.htm
>
>
>
> Daniel White
>
> Managing Director – Hardware Distribution Sales
>
> ConVergence Technologies
>
> Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590
>
> dwh...@converge-tech.com
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *CBB - Jay Fuller
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 6, 2016 4:41 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Tower maintenance training
>
>
>
>
>
> Might be better to have a tower company come and look at our towers once a
> year?
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -
>
> *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm 
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 06, 2016 5:15 PM
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Tower maintenance training
>
>
>
> my guy might be able to do that, he is an instructor for the railroad, he
> does a yearly mini tower climbing/safety for us. Unless you send your guys
> to become certified inspectors, nobody will give you anything that is
> formal, and youll have to sign a release of liability, but better to know
> the info than not
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 4:16 PM,  wrote:
>
> You gotta wonder how the ham checked it.  I would want to know the type of
> tensiometer.  If he came back with "what is a tensiometer" then I would be
> concerned about climbing it too.
>
> -Original Message- From: Jay Weekley
> Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 3:13 PM
> To: Principal WISPA Member List ; Animal Farm
> Subject: [AFMUG] Tower maintenance training
>
>
>
> We've got some towers that our climbers are concerned about because they
> feel the guy wires are loose. We've had them checked by the HAM that
> built several of our towers including one in question and he said they
> are fine but there does seem to be a difference in the slack compared to
> other towers we own.  Is there hands on training we can get on
> tensioning guy wires or is someone in the southeast willing to host two
> or three people for a few hours for training?
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [AFMUG] Tower maintenance training

2016-09-06 Thread Justin Wilson 
Contact Jay from Midamerica Towers http://www.midamericatowers.com 
.  He has a couple of towers in Alabama and 
lives in Georgia now.  Jay is a true Tower God and could tell you whats up.

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> On Sep 6, 2016, at 5:13 PM, Jay Weekley  wrote:
> 
> We've got some towers that our climbers are concerned about because they feel 
> the guy wires are loose. We've had them checked by the HAM that built several 
> of our towers including one in question and he said they are fine but there 
> does seem to be a difference in the slack compared to other towers we own.  
> Is there hands on training we can get on tensioning guy wires or is someone 
> in the southeast willing to host two or three people for a few hours for 
> training?
>