Re: [AFMUG] i've never found an answer to this....cellular
I've got a One Plus One, but still prefer my Nexus 5. The software makes all the difference. On Wednesday, September 17, 2014, Eric Kuhnke via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Bought a Oneplus One 64GB and couldn't be happier. Fantastic 5.5 screen, unlocked Android 4.4 (Cyanogenmod 11), no carrier crapware. faster CPU than a galaxy note 3, and 3GB of RAM. $350 if you can get an invite. On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 7:41 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller via Af af@afmug.com javascript:; wrote: Agree. I waited over a year after 4GLTE launched here to get a 4g phone and when I did, it came off Ebay. Still have that phone...used PDAnet to tether the old phone ; went a different route on this phone cause I knew i'd be exceeding USB speeds pretty easily. :) - Original Message - From: Ken Hohhof via Af To: af@afmug.com javascript:; Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 5:41 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] i've never found an answer to thiscellular What I think the cellcos (especially Sprint) do badly is not explain to the people with 3G devices that they need to upgrade them to 4G for the higher speed, even if that loses you a grandfathered plan. I believe the transition to 4G/LTE has actually made 3G perform worse. I'm not sure why, maybe they take spectrum away from 3G at the towers and give it to 4G. But people don't understand this, all they see is their speeds are in the toilet, so the last thing they are going to do is buy a new device and sign a new contract with the company that's responsible for their crappy service. At a minimum, they should be informing their customers of this. Like we sometimes have to tell people with a 10 year old computer and a 10 year old router that they need to upgrade. But really, they should have some kind of program to market the 4G upgrade to existing 3G customers with come kind of discount that encourages people to upgrade and stay customers. Instead, I think they lose customers to another cellco (or to a WISP!), because the customer thinks the cellco just has crappy service. -Original Message- From: Chris Wright via Af Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 5:20 PM To: af@afmug.com javascript:; Subject: Re: [AFMUG] i've never found an answer to thiscellular You'd wind up pissing off a lot of legacy users and creating more bad press than it's worth. Chris Wright Velociter Wireless -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+chris javascript:;= velociter@afmug.com javascript:;] On Behalf Of CBB - Jay Fuller via Af Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 2:52 PM To: af@afmug.com javascript:;; memb...@wispa.org javascript:; Subject: [AFMUG] i've never found an answer to thiscellular Ok, so, when you have an unlimited card and you're lucky to never have purchased another device, and it's still unlimited, why can't / why DOESN'T the cellular company just end your unlimited option and force you onto something else? Is it a billing issue? Something their systems can't handle? I've always wondered why that is. Surely it's not something legal, unless it's the fact you signed a contract stating this is the plan i want, and they can't change the plan off what you signed up for? (hey! that makes sense...actually) Thoughts? I guess they could say we're no longer offering that plan and you must sign up for a new plan or your phone will be terminated? Too many people on old plans to take that risk?
Re: [AFMUG] i've never found an answer to this....cellular
Yeah, the next Nexus phone is rumored to be based on the Moto X. On Thursday, September 18, 2014, Josh Reynolds via Af af@afmug.com wrote: That's because the Nexus 5 is a good device with a pure android build. The Moto X is the same way. Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com http://www.spitwspots.com On 09/17/2014 10:36 PM, Jason McKemie via Af wrote: I've got a One Plus One, but still prefer my Nexus 5. The software makes all the difference. On Wednesday, September 17, 2014, Eric Kuhnke via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Bought a Oneplus One 64GB and couldn't be happier. Fantastic 5.5 screen, unlocked Android 4.4 (Cyanogenmod 11), no carrier crapware. faster CPU than a galaxy note 3, and 3GB of RAM. $350 if you can get an invite. On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 7:41 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller via Af af@afmug.com javascript:; wrote: Agree. I waited over a year after 4GLTE launched here to get a 4g phone and when I did, it came off Ebay. Still have that phone...used PDAnet to tether the old phone ; went a different route on this phone cause I knew i'd be exceeding USB speeds pretty easily. :) - Original Message - From: Ken Hohhof via Af To: af@afmug.com javascript:; Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 5:41 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] i've never found an answer to thiscellular What I think the cellcos (especially Sprint) do badly is not explain to the people with 3G devices that they need to upgrade them to 4G for the higher speed, even if that loses you a grandfathered plan. I believe the transition to 4G/LTE has actually made 3G perform worse. I'm not sure why, maybe they take spectrum away from 3G at the towers and give it to 4G. But people don't understand this, all they see is their speeds are in the toilet, so the last thing they are going to do is buy a new device and sign a new contract with the company that's responsible for their crappy service. At a minimum, they should be informing their customers of this. Like we sometimes have to tell people with a 10 year old computer and a 10 year old router that they need to upgrade. But really, they should have some kind of program to market the 4G upgrade to existing 3G customers with come kind of discount that encourages people to upgrade and stay customers. Instead, I think they lose customers to another cellco (or to a WISP!), because the customer thinks the cellco just has crappy service. -Original Message- From: Chris Wright via Af Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 5:20 PM To: af@afmug.com javascript:; Subject: Re: [AFMUG] i've never found an answer to thiscellular You'd wind up pissing off a lot of legacy users and creating more bad press than it's worth. Chris Wright Velociter Wireless -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+chris javascript:;= velociter@afmug.com javascript:;] On Behalf Of CBB - Jay Fuller via Af Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 2:52 PM To: af@afmug.com javascript:;; memb...@wispa.org javascript:; Subject: [AFMUG] i've never found an answer to thiscellular Ok, so, when you have an unlimited card and you're lucky to never have purchased another device, and it's still unlimited, why can't / why DOESN'T the cellular company just end your unlimited option and force you onto something else? Is it a billing issue? Something their systems can't handle? I've always wondered why that is. Surely it's not something legal, unless it's the fact you signed a contract stating this is the plan i want, and they can't change the plan off what you signed up for? (hey! that makes sense...actually) Thoughts? I guess they could say we're no longer offering that plan and you must sign up for a new plan or your phone will be terminated? Too many people on old plans to take that risk?
[AFMUG] i've never found an answer to this....cellular
Ok, so, when you have an unlimited card and you're lucky to never have purchased another device, and it's still unlimited, why can't / why DOESN'T the cellular company just end your unlimited option and force you onto something else? Is it a billing issue? Something their systems can't handle? I've always wondered why that is. Surely it's not something legal, unless it's the fact you signed a contract stating this is the plan i want, and they can't change the plan off what you signed up for? (hey! that makes sense...actually) Thoughts? I guess they could say we're no longer offering that plan and you must sign up for a new plan or your phone will be terminated? Too many people on old plans to take that risk?
Re: [AFMUG] i've never found an answer to this....cellular
You'd wind up pissing off a lot of legacy users and creating more bad press than it's worth. Chris Wright Velociter Wireless -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+chris=velociter@afmug.com] On Behalf Of CBB - Jay Fuller via Af Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 2:52 PM To: af@afmug.com; memb...@wispa.org Subject: [AFMUG] i've never found an answer to thiscellular Ok, so, when you have an unlimited card and you're lucky to never have purchased another device, and it's still unlimited, why can't / why DOESN'T the cellular company just end your unlimited option and force you onto something else? Is it a billing issue? Something their systems can't handle? I've always wondered why that is. Surely it's not something legal, unless it's the fact you signed a contract stating this is the plan i want, and they can't change the plan off what you signed up for? (hey! that makes sense...actually) Thoughts? I guess they could say we're no longer offering that plan and you must sign up for a new plan or your phone will be terminated? Too many people on old plans to take that risk?
Re: [AFMUG] i've never found an answer to this....cellular
Bought a Oneplus One 64GB and couldn't be happier. Fantastic 5.5 screen, unlocked Android 4.4 (Cyanogenmod 11), no carrier crapware. faster CPU than a galaxy note 3, and 3GB of RAM. $350 if you can get an invite. On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 7:41 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Agree. I waited over a year after 4GLTE launched here to get a 4g phone and when I did, it came off Ebay. Still have that phone...used PDAnet to tether the old phone ; went a different route on this phone cause I knew i'd be exceeding USB speeds pretty easily. :) - Original Message - From: Ken Hohhof via Af To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 5:41 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] i've never found an answer to thiscellular What I think the cellcos (especially Sprint) do badly is not explain to the people with 3G devices that they need to upgrade them to 4G for the higher speed, even if that loses you a grandfathered plan. I believe the transition to 4G/LTE has actually made 3G perform worse. I'm not sure why, maybe they take spectrum away from 3G at the towers and give it to 4G. But people don't understand this, all they see is their speeds are in the toilet, so the last thing they are going to do is buy a new device and sign a new contract with the company that's responsible for their crappy service. At a minimum, they should be informing their customers of this. Like we sometimes have to tell people with a 10 year old computer and a 10 year old router that they need to upgrade. But really, they should have some kind of program to market the 4G upgrade to existing 3G customers with come kind of discount that encourages people to upgrade and stay customers. Instead, I think they lose customers to another cellco (or to a WISP!), because the customer thinks the cellco just has crappy service. -Original Message- From: Chris Wright via Af Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 5:20 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] i've never found an answer to thiscellular You'd wind up pissing off a lot of legacy users and creating more bad press than it's worth. Chris Wright Velociter Wireless -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+chris=velociter@afmug.com] On Behalf Of CBB - Jay Fuller via Af Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 2:52 PM To: af@afmug.com; memb...@wispa.org Subject: [AFMUG] i've never found an answer to thiscellular Ok, so, when you have an unlimited card and you're lucky to never have purchased another device, and it's still unlimited, why can't / why DOESN'T the cellular company just end your unlimited option and force you onto something else? Is it a billing issue? Something their systems can't handle? I've always wondered why that is. Surely it's not something legal, unless it's the fact you signed a contract stating this is the plan i want, and they can't change the plan off what you signed up for? (hey! that makes sense...actually) Thoughts? I guess they could say we're no longer offering that plan and you must sign up for a new plan or your phone will be terminated? Too many people on old plans to take that risk?
Re: [AFMUG] i've never found an answer to this....cellular
fyi, this message arrived without delay. ok, i'll stop reporting now :) - Original Message - From: CBB - Jay Fuller via Af To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 9:41 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] i've never found an answer to thiscellular Agree. I waited over a year after 4GLTE launched here to get a 4g phone and when I did, it came off Ebay. Still have that phone...used PDAnet to tether the old phone ; went a different route on this phone cause I knew i'd be exceeding USB speeds pretty easily. :) - Original Message - From: Ken Hohhof via Af To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 5:41 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] i've never found an answer to thiscellular What I think the cellcos (especially Sprint) do badly is not explain to the people with 3G devices that they need to upgrade them to 4G for the higher speed, even if that loses you a grandfathered plan. I believe the transition to 4G/LTE has actually made 3G perform worse. I'm not sure why, maybe they take spectrum away from 3G at the towers and give it to 4G. But people don't understand this, all they see is their speeds are in the toilet, so the last thing they are going to do is buy a new device and sign a new contract with the company that's responsible for their crappy service. At a minimum, they should be informing their customers of this. Like we sometimes have to tell people with a 10 year old computer and a 10 year old router that they need to upgrade. But really, they should have some kind of program to market the 4G upgrade to existing 3G customers with come kind of discount that encourages people to upgrade and stay customers. Instead, I think they lose customers to another cellco (or to a WISP!), because the customer thinks the cellco just has crappy service. -Original Message- From: Chris Wright via Af Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 5:20 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] i've never found an answer to thiscellular You'd wind up pissing off a lot of legacy users and creating more bad press than it's worth. Chris Wright Velociter Wireless -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+chris=velociter@afmug.com] On Behalf Of CBB - Jay Fuller via Af Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 2:52 PM To: af@afmug.com; memb...@wispa.org Subject: [AFMUG] i've never found an answer to thiscellular Ok, so, when you have an unlimited card and you're lucky to never have purchased another device, and it's still unlimited, why can't / why DOESN'T the cellular company just end your unlimited option and force you onto something else? Is it a billing issue? Something their systems can't handle? I've always wondered why that is. Surely it's not something legal, unless it's the fact you signed a contract stating this is the plan i want, and they can't change the plan off what you signed up for? (hey! that makes sense...actually) Thoughts? I guess they could say we're no longer offering that plan and you must sign up for a new plan or your phone will be terminated? Too many people on old plans to take that risk?
Re: [AFMUG] i've never found an answer to this....cellular
I want one of the new Moto X's so bad it hurts. The feature set is impressive, and it's vanilla android, no carrier UI/slowdown/bloatware. Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com http://www.spitwspots.com On 09/17/2014 06:42 PM, Eric Kuhnke via Af wrote: Bought a Oneplus One 64GB and couldn't be happier. Fantastic 5.5 screen, unlocked Android 4.4 (Cyanogenmod 11), no carrier crapware. faster CPU than a galaxy note 3, and 3GB of RAM. $350 if you can get an invite. On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 7:41 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Agree. I waited over a year after 4GLTE launched here to get a 4g phone and when I did, it came off Ebay. Still have that phone...used PDAnet to tether the old phone ; went a different route on this phone cause I knew i'd be exceeding USB speeds pretty easily. :) - Original Message - From: Ken Hohhof via Af To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 5:41 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] i've never found an answer to thiscellular What I think the cellcos (especially Sprint) do badly is not explain to the people with 3G devices that they need to upgrade them to 4G for the higher speed, even if that loses you a grandfathered plan. I believe the transition to 4G/LTE has actually made 3G perform worse. I'm not sure why, maybe they take spectrum away from 3G at the towers and give it to 4G. But people don't understand this, all they see is their speeds are in the toilet, so the last thing they are going to do is buy a new device and sign a new contract with the company that's responsible for their crappy service. At a minimum, they should be informing their customers of this. Like we sometimes have to tell people with a 10 year old computer and a 10 year old router that they need to upgrade. But really, they should have some kind of program to market the 4G upgrade to existing 3G customers with come kind of discount that encourages people to upgrade and stay customers. Instead, I think they lose customers to another cellco (or to a WISP!), because the customer thinks the cellco just has crappy service. -Original Message- From: Chris Wright via Af Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 5:20 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] i've never found an answer to thiscellular You'd wind up pissing off a lot of legacy users and creating more bad press than it's worth. Chris Wright Velociter Wireless -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+chris=velociter@afmug.com] On Behalf Of CBB - Jay Fuller via Af Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 2:52 PM To: af@afmug.com; memb...@wispa.org Subject: [AFMUG] i've never found an answer to thiscellular Ok, so, when you have an unlimited card and you're lucky to never have purchased another device, and it's still unlimited, why can't / why DOESN'T the cellular company just end your unlimited option and force you onto something else? Is it a billing issue? Something their systems can't handle? I've always wondered why that is. Surely it's not something legal, unless it's the fact you signed a contract stating this is the plan i want, and they can't change the plan off what you signed up for? (hey! that makes sense...actually) Thoughts? I guess they could say we're no longer offering that plan and you must sign up for a new plan or your phone will be terminated? Too many people on old plans to take that risk?
Re: [AFMUG] i've never found an answer to this....cellular
Back 3 years ago, I got one of Verizon's first 4G phones, actually the one they rated as the top of the line at the time. Strangely, at the store they kept trying to talk me into an iPhone even though it was only 3G. It turned out to be a very buggy phone, lots of problems even with voice calls, plus poor battery life. When I upgraded to a Motorola phone a year ago and mentioned what a piece of crap the previous one had been, they acted like that was our first generation of 4G phones, you expected it to be a piece of crap, right? I suspect the original store either knew you never buy the first generation of hardware that supports some new cellular technology, or maybe they were already experiencing a high return rate. -Original Message- From: CBB - Jay Fuller via Af Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 9:41 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] i've never found an answer to thiscellular Agree. I waited over a year after 4GLTE launched here to get a 4g phone and when I did, it came off Ebay. Still have that phone...used PDAnet to tether the old phone ; went a different route on this phone cause I knew i'd be exceeding USB speeds pretty easily. :) - Original Message - From: Ken Hohhof via Af To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 5:41 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] i've never found an answer to thiscellular What I think the cellcos (especially Sprint) do badly is not explain to the people with 3G devices that they need to upgrade them to 4G for the higher speed, even if that loses you a grandfathered plan. I believe the transition to 4G/LTE has actually made 3G perform worse. I'm not sure why, maybe they take spectrum away from 3G at the towers and give it to 4G. But people don't understand this, all they see is their speeds are in the toilet, so the last thing they are going to do is buy a new device and sign a new contract with the company that's responsible for their crappy service. At a minimum, they should be informing their customers of this. Like we sometimes have to tell people with a 10 year old computer and a 10 year old router that they need to upgrade. But really, they should have some kind of program to market the 4G upgrade to existing 3G customers with come kind of discount that encourages people to upgrade and stay customers. Instead, I think they lose customers to another cellco (or to a WISP!), because the customer thinks the cellco just has crappy service. -Original Message- From: Chris Wright via Af Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 5:20 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] i've never found an answer to thiscellular You'd wind up pissing off a lot of legacy users and creating more bad press than it's worth. Chris Wright Velociter Wireless -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+chris=velociter@afmug.com] On Behalf Of CBB - Jay Fuller via Af Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 2:52 PM To: af@afmug.com; memb...@wispa.org Subject: [AFMUG] i've never found an answer to thiscellular Ok, so, when you have an unlimited card and you're lucky to never have purchased another device, and it's still unlimited, why can't / why DOESN'T the cellular company just end your unlimited option and force you onto something else? Is it a billing issue? Something their systems can't handle? I've always wondered why that is. Surely it's not something legal, unless it's the fact you signed a contract stating this is the plan i want, and they can't change the plan off what you signed up for? (hey! that makes sense...actually) Thoughts? I guess they could say we're no longer offering that plan and you must sign up for a new plan or your phone will be terminated? Too many people on old plans to take that risk?
