Re: [AFMUG] offtopic - jaguar makes cool stuff
I don't ever want to see a countdown for a green or red light. The idiots already try and push it now if they had a graph that shows them exaclty when it will change... no thanks. -- Christopher Tyler MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE Total Highspeed Internet Services 417.851.1107 - Original Message - From: Jason McKemie via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 10:14:37 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] offtopic - jaguar makes cool stuff Those all look like virtual prototypes in testing, or CGI. Nice ideas, but making them work in real life is another matter entirely. On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 9:32 PM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Invisible hood is better, came out a while ago https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TRGwLDLRp8 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 10:27 PM, Josh Reynolds via Af af@afmug.com wrote: The start of the video shows invisible A/B pillars.. but I like this part better. http://youtu.be/c98h41TkREA?t=1m -- josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com
Re: [AFMUG] offtopic - jaguar makes cool stuff
Primitive beings and their manual gearboxes. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 11:00 AM, Daniel White via Af af@afmug.com wrote: In Europe... it is common for the yellow light to flash before green as well. Concept being it gives you time to put your car in gear before you go (automatics are still fairly uncommon there). Took me awhile to get used to... although I drive now in Europe at least twice a year. Daniel White – Managing Director SAF North America LLC Cell: (303) 746-3590 Skype: danieldwhite daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Tyler via Af Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 7:48 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] offtopic - jaguar makes cool stuff I don't ever want to see a countdown for a green or red light. The idiots already try and push it now if they had a graph that shows them exaclty when it will change... no thanks. -- Christopher Tyler MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE Total Highspeed Internet Services 417.851.1107 - Original Message - From: Jason McKemie via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 10:14:37 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] offtopic - jaguar makes cool stuff Those all look like virtual prototypes in testing, or CGI. Nice ideas, but making them work in real life is another matter entirely. On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 9:32 PM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Invisible hood is better, came out a while ago https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TRGwLDLRp8 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 10:27 PM, Josh Reynolds via Af af@afmug.com wrote: The start of the video shows invisible A/B pillars.. but I like this part better. http://youtu.be/c98h41TkREA?t=1m -- josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com
Re: [AFMUG] offtopic - jaguar makes cool stuff
Definitely CGI. Notice how the HUD is always drawing for the camera’s point of view, not the drivers themselves. Chris Wright Velociter Wirelesshttp://www.velociter.net/ From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jason McKemie via Af Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 8:15 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] offtopic - jaguar makes cool stuff Those all look like virtual prototypes in testing, or CGI. Nice ideas, but making them work in real life is another matter entirely. On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 9:32 PM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com wrote: Invisible hood is better, came out a while ago https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TRGwLDLRp8 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 10:27 PM, Josh Reynolds via Af af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com wrote: The start of the video shows invisible A/B pillars.. but I like this part better. http://youtu.be/c98h41TkREA?t=1m -- josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.comhttp://www.spitwspots.com
Re: [AFMUG] offtopic - jaguar makes cool stuff
On 12/16/14, 6:47 AM, Christopher Tyler via Af wrote: I don't ever want to see a countdown for a green or red light. The idiots already try and push it now if they had a graph that shows them exaclty when it will change... no thanks. The pedestrian signal countdown timers effectively are the same thing and they're everywhere, at least where I am. ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] offtopic - jaguar makes cool stuff
The average driver doesn't know how to use that... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 11:15 AM, Seth Mattinen via Af af@afmug.com wrote: On 12/16/14, 6:47 AM, Christopher Tyler via Af wrote: I don't ever want to see a countdown for a green or red light. The idiots already try and push it now if they had a graph that shows them exaclty when it will change... no thanks. The pedestrian signal countdown timers effectively are the same thing and they're everywhere, at least where I am. ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] offtopic - jaguar makes cool stuff
On 12/16/14, 8:02 AM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote: Primitive beings and their manual gearboxes. I still drive a stick because it's fun. Also nobody else drives my car because they can't figure out how to operate it. ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] offtopic - jaguar makes cool stuff
Half of the car club has a 6MT. It's funny because I'm ahead of them in my 7AT =P Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 11:16 AM, Seth Mattinen via Af af@afmug.com wrote: On 12/16/14, 8:02 AM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote: Primitive beings and their manual gearboxes. I still drive a stick because it's fun. Also nobody else drives my car because they can't figure out how to operate it. ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] offtopic - jaguar makes cool stuff
pfft! manual gearboxes are awesome! From: Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of Seth Mattinen via Af [af@afmug.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 10:16 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] offtopic - jaguar makes cool stuff On 12/16/14, 8:02 AM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote: Primitive beings and their manual gearboxes. I still drive a stick because it's fun. Also nobody else drives my car because they can't figure out how to operate it. ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] offtopic - jaguar makes cool stuff
I used to have to push start my car back 40 years ago. I used to insist on manual for that reason. Not so much any more. I am lazy. -Original Message- From: Mathew Howard via Af Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 9:24 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] offtopic - jaguar makes cool stuff pfft! manual gearboxes are awesome! From: Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of Seth Mattinen via Af [af@afmug.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 10:16 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] offtopic - jaguar makes cool stuff On 12/16/14, 8:02 AM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote: Primitive beings and their manual gearboxes. I still drive a stick because it's fun. Also nobody else drives my car because they can't figure out how to operate it. ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] offtopic - jaguar makes cool stuff
My wife and I love stick shifts. Probably an attitude that is restricted
to people that love the driving thing. Stick shift makes you more
involved.
And like you say, it also is a crude form of theft control. Becoming
more effective every day. I'm surprised by the number of people that
don't know how to drive a stick any more.
--
bp
part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com
On 12/16/2014 8:16 AM, Seth Mattinen via Af wrote:
On 12/16/14, 8:02 AM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote:
Primitive beings and their manual gearboxes.
I still drive a stick because it's fun. Also nobody else drives my car
because they can't figure out how to operate it.
~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] offtopic - jaguar makes cool stuff
Oh I like to drive...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCULQREBnik
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 11:30 AM, Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
My wife and I love stick shifts. Probably an attitude that is restricted
to people that love the driving thing. Stick shift makes you more
involved.
And like you say, it also is a crude form of theft control. Becoming more
effective every day. I'm surprised by the number of people that don't know
how to drive a stick any more.
--
bp
part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com
On 12/16/2014 8:16 AM, Seth Mattinen via Af wrote:
On 12/16/14, 8:02 AM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote:
Primitive beings and their manual gearboxes.
I still drive a stick because it's fun. Also nobody else drives my car
because they can't figure out how to operate it.
~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] offtopic - jaguar makes cool stuff
Have you noticed that while stopped at lights the drivers are holding up their
cell phones. Cell phone cameras should be watching the stop lights. When the
light turns green the phone can beep to tell the driver it is time to start
thinking about finishing that text and begin to mentally prepare to drive
again. Saves me from having to blast my horn behind them.
For the record, the yellow before green is a fabulous feature. Add that to my
wish list with the traffic circles. The US is so far behind on this stuff.
PC
Blaze Broadband
-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince via Af
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 11:31 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] offtopic - jaguar makes cool stuff
My wife and I love stick shifts. Probably an attitude that is restricted to
people that
love the driving thing. Stick shift makes you more involved.
And like you say, it also is a crude form of theft control. Becoming more
effective
every day. I'm surprised by the number of people that don't know how to
drive a stick
any more.
--
bp
part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com
On 12/16/2014 8:16 AM, Seth Mattinen via Af wrote:
On 12/16/14, 8:02 AM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote:
Primitive beings and their manual gearboxes.
I still drive a stick because it's fun. Also nobody else drives my car
because they can't figure out how to operate it.
~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] offtopic - jaguar makes cool stuff
They use them in Bangkok, it's...interesting. Countdown to green really does make everyone launch quickly, but it's cool because you don't have some dummy just sitting there spaced out that doesn't know the light changed. It could work here, I got to like it after a bit. It was the least terrifying thing about driving around that city. On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 9:47 AM, Christopher Tyler via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I don't ever want to see a countdown for a green or red light. The idiots already try and push it now if they had a graph that shows them exaclty when it will change... no thanks. -- Christopher Tyler MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE Total Highspeed Internet Services 417.851.1107 - Original Message - From: Jason McKemie via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 10:14:37 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] offtopic - jaguar makes cool stuff Those all look like virtual prototypes in testing, or CGI. Nice ideas, but making them work in real life is another matter entirely. On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 9:32 PM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Invisible hood is better, came out a while ago https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TRGwLDLRp8 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 10:27 PM, Josh Reynolds via Af af@afmug.com wrote: The start of the video shows invisible A/B pillars.. but I like this part better. http://youtu.be/c98h41TkREA?t=1m -- josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com
Re: [AFMUG] offtopic - jaguar makes cool stuff
I didn't used to understand why anyone would want to drive a stick... seemed
like it was just a lot of extra hassle. but I figured I should get one and find
out for myself... now I hate driving automatics.
From: Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of Bill Prince via Af [af@afmug.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 10:30 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] offtopic - jaguar makes cool stuff
My wife and I love stick shifts. Probably an attitude that is restricted
to people that love the driving thing. Stick shift makes you more
involved.
And like you say, it also is a crude form of theft control. Becoming
more effective every day. I'm surprised by the number of people that
don't know how to drive a stick any more.
--
bp
part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com
On 12/16/2014 8:16 AM, Seth Mattinen via Af wrote:
On 12/16/14, 8:02 AM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote:
Primitive beings and their manual gearboxes.
I still drive a stick because it's fun. Also nobody else drives my car
because they can't figure out how to operate it.
~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] offtopic - jaguar makes cool stuff
All of my vehicles except my most recent car (and the work van) have been
manual, I miss that quite a bit.
On Tuesday, December 16, 2014, Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
My wife and I love stick shifts. Probably an attitude that is restricted
to people that love the driving thing. Stick shift makes you more
involved.
And like you say, it also is a crude form of theft control. Becoming more
effective every day. I'm surprised by the number of people that don't know
how to drive a stick any more.
--
bp
part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com
On 12/16/2014 8:16 AM, Seth Mattinen via Af wrote:
On 12/16/14, 8:02 AM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote:
Primitive beings and their manual gearboxes.
I still drive a stick because it's fun. Also nobody else drives my car
because they can't figure out how to operate it.
~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] offtopic - jaguar makes cool stuff
For manual lovers that have used flappy-paddle gear boxes, how do they
compare in the involvement with the driving experience?
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
- Original Message -
From: Jason McKemie via Af af@afmug.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 10:54:16 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] offtopic - jaguar makes cool stuff
All of my vehicles except my most recent car (and the work van) have been
manual, I miss that quite a bit.
On Tuesday, December 16, 2014, Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
My wife and I love stick shifts. Probably an attitude that is restricted to
people that love the driving thing. Stick shift makes you more involved.
And like you say, it also is a crude form of theft control. Becoming more
effective every day. I'm surprised by the number of people that don't know how
to drive a stick any more.
--
bp
part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com
On 12/16/2014 8:16 AM, Seth Mattinen via Af wrote:
blockquote
On 12/16/14, 8:02 AM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote:
blockquote
Primitive beings and their manual gearboxes.
I still drive a stick because it's fun. Also nobody else drives my car because
they can't figure out how to operate it.
~Seth
/blockquote
/blockquote
Re: [AFMUG] offtopic - jaguar makes cool stuff
It's not the same thing AT ALL. It's a third gear box option. My car has
automatic and paddle shift. It is not the same as driving the 6MT of the
identical car at all. Remember there is no clutch and it is generally
sequential, which is probably where that different feel of driving comes in.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 11:55 AM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
For manual lovers that have used flappy-paddle gear boxes, how do they
compare in the involvement with the driving experience?
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
--
*From: *Jason McKemie via Af af@afmug.com
*To: *af@afmug.com
*Sent: *Tuesday, December 16, 2014 10:54:16 AM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] offtopic - jaguar makes cool stuff
All of my vehicles except my most recent car (and the work van) have been
manual, I miss that quite a bit.
On Tuesday, December 16, 2014, Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
My wife and I love stick shifts. Probably an attitude that is restricted
to people that love the driving thing. Stick shift makes you more
involved.
And like you say, it also is a crude form of theft control. Becoming more
effective every day. I'm surprised by the number of people that don't know
how to drive a stick any more.
--
bp
part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com
On 12/16/2014 8:16 AM, Seth Mattinen via Af wrote:
On 12/16/14, 8:02 AM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote:
Primitive beings and their manual gearboxes.
I still drive a stick because it's fun. Also nobody else drives my car
because they can't figure out how to operate it.
~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] offtopic - jaguar makes cool stuff
Not at all. The up/down on the stick shift for manu-matic is just weird
and awful. When you're using paddles it's more F1 like.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 12:09 PM, Mathew Howard via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
I've never driven a real paddle shift, but I did have a car with a
manually shiftable automatic, which I'd guess is a somewhat similar
experience... definitely not at all the same as a stick shift, but it does
give you somewhat more of an involved feel than automatic.
The lack of a clutch definitely would make a huge difference.
--
*From:* Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of Josh Luthman via Af [
af@afmug.com]
*Sent:* Tuesday, December 16, 2014 11:01 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] offtopic - jaguar makes cool stuff
It's not the same thing AT ALL. It's a third gear box option. My car
has automatic and paddle shift. It is not the same as driving the 6MT of
the identical car at all. Remember there is no clutch and it is generally
sequential, which is probably where that different feel of driving comes in.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 11:55 AM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com
wrote:
For manual lovers that have used flappy-paddle gear boxes, how do
they compare in the involvement with the driving experience?
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
--
*From: *Jason McKemie via Af af@afmug.com
*To: *af@afmug.com
*Sent: *Tuesday, December 16, 2014 10:54:16 AM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] offtopic - jaguar makes cool stuff
All of my vehicles except my most recent car (and the work van) have been
manual, I miss that quite a bit.
On Tuesday, December 16, 2014, Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
My wife and I love stick shifts. Probably an attitude that is restricted
to people that love the driving thing. Stick shift makes you more
involved.
And like you say, it also is a crude form of theft control. Becoming
more effective every day. I'm surprised by the number of people that don't
know how to drive a stick any more.
--
bp
part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com
On 12/16/2014 8:16 AM, Seth Mattinen via Af wrote:
On 12/16/14, 8:02 AM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote:
Primitive beings and their manual gearboxes.
I still drive a stick because it's fun. Also nobody else drives my car
because they can't figure out how to operate it.
~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] offtopic - jaguar makes cool stuff
I used to love the shift action on my 1992 Prelude SI model with all
wheel steer.
I could corner at 90 and power slide a bit :)
On 12/16/2014 11:12 AM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote:
Not at all. The up/down on the stick shift for manu-matic is just
weird and awful. When you're using paddles it's more F1 like.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 12:09 PM, Mathew Howard via Af af@afmug.com
mailto:af@afmug.com wrote:
I've never driven a real paddle shift, but I did have a car with a
manually shiftable automatic, which I'd guess is a somewhat
similar experience... definitely not at all the same as a stick
shift, but it does give you somewhat more of an involved feel than
automatic.
The lack of a clutch definitely would make a huge difference.
*From:* Af [af-boun...@afmug.com mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] on
behalf of Josh Luthman via Af [af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com]
*Sent:* Tuesday, December 16, 2014 11:01 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] offtopic - jaguar makes cool stuff
It's not the same thing AT ALL. It's a third gear box option. My
car has automatic and paddle shift. It is not the same as driving
the 6MT of the identical car at all. Remember there is no clutch
and it is generally sequential, which is probably where that
different feel of driving comes in.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 11:55 AM, Mike Hammett via Af
af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote:
For manual lovers that have used flappy-paddle gear boxes,
how do they compare in the involvement with the driving
experience?
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
*From: *Jason McKemie via Af af@afmug.com
mailto:af@afmug.com
*To: *af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
*Sent: *Tuesday, December 16, 2014 10:54:16 AM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] offtopic - jaguar makes cool stuff
All of my vehicles except my most recent car (and the work
van) have been manual, I miss that quite a bit.
On Tuesday, December 16, 2014, Bill Prince via Af
af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote:
My wife and I love stick shifts. Probably an attitude that
is restricted to people that love the driving thing.
Stick shift makes you more involved.
And like you say, it also is a crude form of theft
control. Becoming more effective every day. I'm surprised
by the number of people that don't know how to drive a
stick any more.
--
bp
part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com
On 12/16/2014 8:16 AM, Seth Mattinen via Af wrote:
On 12/16/14, 8:02 AM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote:
Primitive beings and their manual gearboxes.
I still drive a stick because it's fun. Also nobody
else drives my car because they can't figure out how
to operate it.
~Seth
[AFMUG] offtopic - jaguar makes cool stuff
The start of the video shows invisible A/B pillars.. but I like this part better. http://youtu.be/c98h41TkREA?t=1m -- josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com
Re: [AFMUG] offtopic - jaguar makes cool stuff
Invisible hood is better, came out a while ago https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TRGwLDLRp8 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 10:27 PM, Josh Reynolds via Af af@afmug.com wrote: The start of the video shows invisible A/B pillars.. but I like this part better. http://youtu.be/c98h41TkREA?t=1m -- josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com
