Re: [AFMUG] AF11x to Remec/APEX etc adapters

[chuck]

Noted.

From: Adam Moffett 
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 4:23 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11x to Remec/APEX etc adapters

Interested

-- Original Message --
From: ch...@wbmfg.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 5/23/2018 2:55:36 PM
Subject: [AFMUG] AF11x to Remec/APEX etc adapters

  If you have asked me for this product please let me know.  We are getting 
some beta quantities going now and I never kept really good track of those that 
want to be on the list.  So a list now exists and there is even a person 
managing the list that will expedite fulfillment.  

  Too many irons in the fire

Re: [AFMUG] AF11x to Remec/APEX etc adapters

[Adam Moffett]

Interested

-- Original Message --
From: ch...@wbmfg.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 5/23/2018 2:55:36 PM
Subject: [AFMUG] AF11x to Remec/APEX etc adapters

If you have asked me for this product please let me know.  We are 
getting some beta quantities going now and I never kept really good 
track of those that want to be on the list.  So a list now exists and 
there is even a person managing the list that will expedite 
fulfillment.


Too many irons in the fire

Re: [AFMUG] AF11x to Remec/APEX etc adapters

[Steve Jones]

It's best to just drink when your iron fire is full.
I know this.
I drink.
I have two fires and spare irons in wait.

On Wed, May 23, 2018, 1:55 PM  wrote:

> If you have asked me for this product please let me know.  We are getting
> some beta quantities going now and I never kept really good track of those
> that want to be on the list.  So a list now exists and there is even a
> person managing the list that will expedite fulfillment.
>
> Too many irons in the fire
>

Re: [AFMUG] AF11x

[chuck]

Unless you can’t get the license for MIMO.

From: Mathew Howard 
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2018 9:15 AM
To: af 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11x

Yeah, we're talking about doing two radios in SISO on one antenna... that's 
going to be pretty much the same as one radio in MIMO.


On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 10:13 AM, Bill Prince  wrote:

  No. Both chains. SISO would be about half that, but still full duplex.



bp


On 5/17/2018 8:03 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:

750Mbps on a single chain?


-- Original Message --
From: "Bill Prince" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 5/17/2018 11:00:47 AM
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11x

  I don't know about that. A single AF11X can do close to 750 Mbps full 
dux. Two of them with different frequencies would be in the neighborhood of 1.5 
Gbps. Not too shabby for around $4500 of hardware.


bp


On 5/17/2018 7:47 AM, Mathew Howard wrote:

Buying 2 AF11x should be a lot cheaper... it should still be under $4k 
for the hardware.


They wouldn't get as much throughput as a more expensive 2+0 system 
though...



On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 9:36 AM, Adam Moffett  
wrote:

  So is it less expensive to buy 2 AF11x or to buy one more expensive 
2+0 system?

  -- Original Message --
  From: "Mathew Howard" 
  To: "af" 
      Sent: 5/16/2018 10:07:43 PM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11x

Well, you could use two radios in SISO mode on each end... but then 
you'd have to deal with having separate ethernet ports and mounting the second 
radio (not to mention some extra cost).

On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 3:36 PM,  wrote:

  Any way to make the V&H run in different frequencies?

Re: [AFMUG] AF11x

[Mathew Howard]

Yeah, we're talking about doing two radios in SISO on one antenna... that's
going to be pretty much the same as one radio in MIMO.

On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 10:13 AM, Bill Prince  wrote:

> No. Both chains. SISO would be about half that, but still full duplex.
>
>
> bp
> 
>
>
> On 5/17/2018 8:03 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:
>
> 750Mbps on a single chain?
>
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: "Bill Prince" 
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: 5/17/2018 11:00:47 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11x
>
> I don't know about that. A single AF11X can do close to 750 Mbps full dux.
> Two of them with different frequencies would be in the neighborhood of 1.5
> Gbps. Not too shabby for around $4500 of hardware.
>
> bp
> 
>
>
> On 5/17/2018 7:47 AM, Mathew Howard wrote:
>
> Buying 2 AF11x should be a lot cheaper... it should still be under $4k for
> the hardware.
>
> They wouldn't get as much throughput as a more expensive 2+0 system
> though...
>
>
> On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 9:36 AM, Adam Moffett  wrote:
>
>> So is it less expensive to buy 2 AF11x or to buy one more expensive 2+0
>> system?
>>
>> -- Original Message --
>> From: "Mathew Howard" 
>> To: "af" 
>> Sent: 5/16/2018 10:07:43 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11x
>>
>> Well, you could use two radios in SISO mode on each end... but then you'd
>> have to deal with having separate ethernet ports and mounting the second
>> radio (not to mention some extra cost).
>>
>> On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 3:36 PM,  wrote:
>>
>>> Any way to make the V&H run in different frequencies?
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] AF11x

[Bill Prince]

No. Both chains. SISO would be about half that, but still full duplex.


bp


On 5/17/2018 8:03 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:

750Mbps on a single chain?


-- Original Message --
From: "Bill Prince" mailto:part15...@gmail.com>>
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: 5/17/2018 11:00:47 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11x

I don't know about that. A single AF11X can do close to 750 Mbps full 
dux. Two of them with different frequencies would be in the 
neighborhood of 1.5 Gbps. Not too shabby for around $4500 of hardware.


bp


On 5/17/2018 7:47 AM, Mathew Howard wrote:
Buying 2 AF11x should be a lot cheaper... it should still be under 
$4k for the hardware.


They wouldn't get as much throughput as a more expensive 2+0 system 
though...



On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 9:36 AM, Adam Moffett <mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>> wrote:


So is it less expensive to buy 2 AF11x or to buy one more
expensive 2+0 system?

-- Original Message --
From: "Mathew Howard" mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com>>
To: "af" mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Sent: 5/16/2018 10:07:43 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11x


Well, you could use two radios in SISO mode on each end... but
then you'd have to deal with having separate ethernet ports and
mounting the second radio (not to mention some extra cost).

On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 3:36 PM, mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:

Any way to make the V&H run in different frequencies?

Re: [AFMUG] AF11x

[Joe Novak]

In SISO it'd be more like 300mbit-ish @ 1024QAM.

I'd argue more like being able to count on getting 275mbit-ish as a safe
number, if the stars align correctly.

On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 10:00 AM, Bill Prince  wrote:

> I don't know about that. A single AF11X can do close to 750 Mbps full dux.
> Two of them with different frequencies would be in the neighborhood of 1.5
> Gbps. Not too shabby for around $4500 of hardware.
>
> bp
> 
>
>
> On 5/17/2018 7:47 AM, Mathew Howard wrote:
>
> Buying 2 AF11x should be a lot cheaper... it should still be under $4k for
> the hardware.
>
> They wouldn't get as much throughput as a more expensive 2+0 system
> though...
>
>
> On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 9:36 AM, Adam Moffett  wrote:
>
>> So is it less expensive to buy 2 AF11x or to buy one more expensive 2+0
>> system?
>>
>> -- Original Message --
>> From: "Mathew Howard" 
>> To: "af" 
>> Sent: 5/16/2018 10:07:43 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11x
>>
>> Well, you could use two radios in SISO mode on each end... but then you'd
>> have to deal with having separate ethernet ports and mounting the second
>> radio (not to mention some extra cost).
>>
>> On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 3:36 PM,  wrote:
>>
>>> Any way to make the V&H run in different frequencies?
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] AF11x

[Adam Moffett]

750Mbps on a single chain?


-- Original Message --
From: "Bill Prince" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 5/17/2018 11:00:47 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11x

I don't know about that. A single AF11X can do close to 750 Mbps full 
dux. Two of them with different frequencies would be in the 
neighborhood of 1.5 Gbps. Not too shabby for around $4500 of hardware.


bp



On 5/17/2018 7:47 AM, Mathew Howard wrote:
Buying 2 AF11x should be a lot cheaper... it should still be under $4k 
for the hardware.


They wouldn't get as much throughput as a more expensive 2+0 system 
though...



On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 9:36 AM, Adam Moffett  
wrote:
So is it less expensive to buy 2 AF11x or to buy one more expensive 
2+0 system?


-- Original Message --
From: "Mathew Howard" 
To: "af" 
Sent: 5/16/2018 10:07:43 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11x

Well, you could use two radios in SISO mode on each end... but then 
you'd have to deal with having separate ethernet ports and mounting 
the second radio (not to mention some extra cost).


On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 3:36 PM,  wrote:

Any way to make the V&H run in different frequencies?

Re: [AFMUG] AF11x

[Bill Prince]

I don't know about that. A single AF11X can do close to 750 Mbps full 
dux. Two of them with different frequencies would be in the neighborhood 
of 1.5 Gbps. Not too shabby for around $4500 of hardware.


bp


On 5/17/2018 7:47 AM, Mathew Howard wrote:
Buying 2 AF11x should be a lot cheaper... it should still be under $4k 
for the hardware.


They wouldn't get as much throughput as a more expensive 2+0 system 
though...



On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 9:36 AM, Adam Moffett <mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>> wrote:


So is it less expensive to buy 2 AF11x or to buy one more
expensive 2+0 system?

-- Original Message --
From: "Mathew Howard" mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com>>
To: "af" mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Sent: 5/16/2018 10:07:43 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11x


Well, you could use two radios in SISO mode on each end... but
then you'd have to deal with having separate ethernet ports and
mounting the second radio (not to mention some extra cost).

On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 3:36 PM, mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:

Any way to make the V&H run in different frequencies?

Re: [AFMUG] AF11x

[Mathew Howard]

Buying 2 AF11x should be a lot cheaper... it should still be under $4k for
the hardware.

They wouldn't get as much throughput as a more expensive 2+0 system
though...


On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 9:36 AM, Adam Moffett  wrote:

> So is it less expensive to buy 2 AF11x or to buy one more expensive 2+0
> system?
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: "Mathew Howard" 
> To: "af" 
> Sent: 5/16/2018 10:07:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11x
>
> Well, you could use two radios in SISO mode on each end... but then you'd
> have to deal with having separate ethernet ports and mounting the second
> radio (not to mention some extra cost).
>
> On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 3:36 PM,  wrote:
>
>> Any way to make the V&H run in different frequencies?
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] AF11x

[Adam Moffett]

So is it less expensive to buy 2 AF11x or to buy one more expensive 2+0 
system?


-- Original Message --
From: "Mathew Howard" 
To: "af" 
Sent: 5/16/2018 10:07:43 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11x

Well, you could use two radios in SISO mode on each end... but then 
you'd have to deal with having separate ethernet ports and mounting the 
second radio (not to mention some extra cost).


On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 3:36 PM,  wrote:

Any way to make the V&H run in different frequencies?

Re: [AFMUG] AF11x

[Mathew Howard]

Well, you could use two radios in SISO mode on each end... but then you'd
have to deal with having separate ethernet ports and mounting the second
radio (not to mention some extra cost).

On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 3:36 PM,  wrote:

> Any way to make the V&H run in different frequencies?
>

Re: [AFMUG] AF11x

[Dave]

Yeah... That would be bad :)


On 05/16/2018 03:46 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
youre talking abut crossing streams man. never cross the streams, you 
know better than that


On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 3:36 PM, > wrote:


Any way to make the V&H run in different frequencies?




--

Re: [AFMUG] AF11x

[Jaime Solorza]

Ha

Jaime Solorza

On Wed, May 16, 2018, 2:46 PM Steve Jones  wrote:

> youre talking abut crossing streams man. never cross the streams, you know
> better than that
>
> On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 3:36 PM,  wrote:
>
>> Any way to make the V&H run in different frequencies?
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] AF11x

[Steve Jones]

youre talking abut crossing streams man. never cross the streams, you know
better than that

On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 3:36 PM,  wrote:

> Any way to make the V&H run in different frequencies?
>

Re: [AFMUG] AF11x

[Gino A. Villarini]

nop

From: Af mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of Chuck 
McCown mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Date: Wednesday, May 16, 2018 at 4:36 PM
To: "af@afmug.com" mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Subject: [AFMUG] AF11x

Any way to make the V&H run in different frequencies?



Gino A. Villarini


President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

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Re: [AFMUG] AF11x

[chuck]

If you could park the end of the ruler on the case where the N connector sticks 
its head out the hole, I need to know how much of the N connector is showing.  
That little lip is part of the case as far as I am concerned.  I have the same 
boots that UBNT uses, but my N connectors are a little longer.  

Here is another way to answer the question:  When the N connector is screwed 
all the way down and the boot is installed, how much room is there inside the 
boot to accommodate a longer N connector?

From: Bill Prince 
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2017 11:45 AM
To: Motorola III 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11x

Kind of hard to answer that question. The case holds the diplexers inside. The 
N connector is about a 1/2" above the "case", but it's recessed inside the 
little lip for the boot that UBNT uses. 

Hard to describe. Maybe we need a picture?


--

bp

part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com


On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 8:49 AM,  wrote:

  Could someone please measure how much the N connectors protrude above the 
case on an AF11x for me?
  I have a case but it does not have the diplexer/duplexer filters in it.  

  I have cables and boots but my N connectors are slightly longer than the ones 
from UBNT.  
  My N connector could be in danger of slightly stretching the boot if things 
are too tight.  

Re: [AFMUG] AF11x

[Bill Prince]

Kind of hard to answer that question. The case holds the diplexers inside.
The N connector is about a 1/2" above the "case", but it's recessed inside
the little lip for the boot that UBNT uses.

Hard to describe. Maybe we need a picture?


--
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com

On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 8:49 AM,  wrote:

> Could someone please measure how much the N connectors protrude above the
> case on an AF11x for me?
> I have a case but it does not have the diplexer/duplexer filters in it.
>
> I have cables and boots but my N connectors are slightly longer than the
> ones from UBNT.
> My N connector could be in danger of slightly stretching the boot if
> things are too tight.
>

Re: [AFMUG] AF11x - frequency reuse ??

[Mathew Howard]

Shouldn't be any need to replace the SAF links... that setup sounds like it
could be workable to me, but I'm not a frequency coordinator... I'd say
it's certainly worth talking to a frequency coordinator and see if they can
make it work.

On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 11:56 AM, Paul McCall  wrote:

> On the tower in question, we have (2) existing 11 Ghz radios on 90 ft.
> tower
>
>
>
>1. 85 ft. up facing 208 degrees  SAF Lumina   56 Mhz license presently
>2. 76 ft. up facing 287 degrees  SAF Lumina   56 Mhz license presently
>
>
>
> We want to add (2) more 11Ghz links which we can mount at 65 feet facing
> facing 345 degrees (and 55 feet facing 164 degrees)
>
>
>
> We would replace the SAF (move them elsewhere in the network)  if necessary
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Adam Moffett
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 17, 2017 12:20 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] AF11x - frequency reuse ??
>
>
>
> Yup.  What Faisal said.
>
>
>
> Basically the two co-located units transmitting on the same channel
> doesn't matter as long the two remote ends each hear only one of them.
> Usually the beamwidth is so narrow that you have lots of re-use opportunity.
>
>
>
>
>
> -- Original Message --
>
> From: "Faisal Imtiaz" 
>
> To: af@afmug.com
>
> Sent: 1/17/2017 12:12:13 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11x - frequency reuse ??
>
>
>
> . Since one channel (dedicated) is used for TX and another one
> (dedicate) for RX ... with appropriate separation it is possible to make
> things work...
>
>
>
> :)
>
>
>
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> Miami, FL 33155
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <(305)%20663-5518>
>
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <(305)%20663-5518> Option 2 or Email:
> supp...@snappytelecom.net
>
>
> --
>
> *From: *"Gino Villarini" 
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Tuesday, January 17, 2017 12:07:54 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] AF11x - frequency reuse ??
>
> Theres no need for gps sync reuse in fdx world …
>
>
>
> *From: *Af  on behalf of Paul McCall <
> pa...@pdmnet.net>
> *Reply-To: *"af@afmug.com" 
> *Date: *Tuesday, January 17, 2017 at 1:02 PM
> *To: *"af@afmug.com" 
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] AF11x - frequency reuse ??
>
>
>
> OK.  CAN they work with Re-Use like the 5x stuff does?  (licensing aside)
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] *On
> Behalf Of *Mathew Howard
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 17, 2017 11:56 AM
> *To:* af 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] AF11x - frequency reuse ??
>
>
>
> I don't see why not, as long as you can talk a frequency coordinator into
> doing it. It's not like anyone else is going to object to it.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *Gino Villarini*
>
> President
>
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>
> On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 10:55 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> will they approve self interfering links?
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 10:51 AM, Mathew Howard 
> wrote:
>
> Yeah... talk to a frequency coordinator. My understanding is, that if you
> file an application that would only interfere with your own stuff, nobody
> is going to care, and it'll go through fine... obviously you would have to
> make sure you weren't really interfering with your other links.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 10:42 AM, Faisal Imtiaz 
> wrote:
>
> This question is best to be asked to your Freq. coordinator...
>
>
>
> Some of your assumptions are not quite the way things work :)
>
>
>
> Regards.
>
>
>
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> Miami, FL 33155
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <(305)%20663-5518>
>
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <(305)%20663-5518> Option 2 or Email:
> supp...@snappytelecom.net
>
>
> --
>
> *From: *"Paul McCall" 
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Tuesday, January 17, 2017 11:28:31 AM
> *Subject: *[AFMUG] AF11x - frequency reuse ??
>
> Just had a thought as we have a tower with 2  11ghz links on them ATM, and
> I would love to add a 3rd and 4th.
>
>
>
> Wondering if the AF11x is designed for frequency reuse, and does the FCC
> understand that so they wouldn’t kick back the application because of “lack
> of available frequencies” ?
>
>
>
> Sorry if that has already been discussed.  Been buried for a couple weeks
> (in all ways here) and digging back out!
>
>
>
> Paul McCall, President
>
> PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.
>
> 658 Old Dixie Highway
>
> Vero Beach, FL 32962
>
> 772-564-6800 <(772)%20564-6800>
>
> pa...@pdmnet.net
>
> www.pdmnet.com
>
> www.floridabroadband.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] AF11x - frequency reuse ??

[Paul McCall]

On the tower in question, we have (2) existing 11 Ghz radios on 90 ft. tower


  1.  85 ft. up facing 208 degrees  SAF Lumina   56 Mhz license presently
  2.  76 ft. up facing 287 degrees  SAF Lumina   56 Mhz license presently

We want to add (2) more 11Ghz links which we can mount at 65 feet facing facing 
345 degrees (and 55 feet facing 164 degrees)

We would replace the SAF (move them elsewhere in the network)  if necessary

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 12:20 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11x - frequency reuse ??

Yup.  What Faisal said.

Basically the two co-located units transmitting on the same channel doesn't 
matter as long the two remote ends each hear only one of them.  Usually the 
beamwidth is so narrow that you have lots of re-use opportunity.


-- Original Message --
From: "Faisal Imtiaz" 
mailto:fai...@snappytelecom.net>>
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: 1/17/2017 12:12:13 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11x - frequency reuse ??

. Since one channel (dedicated) is used for TX and another one (dedicate) 
for RX ... with appropriate separation it is possible to make things work...

:)

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: 
supp...@snappytelecom.net<mailto:supp...@snappytelecom.net>


From: "Gino Villarini" mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com>>
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 12:07:54 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11x - frequency reuse ??
Theres no need for gps sync reuse in fdx world …

From: Af mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of Paul 
McCall mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net>>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" 
mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Date: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 at 1:02 PM
To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11x - frequency reuse ??

OK.  CAN they work with Re-Use like the 5x stuff does?  (licensing aside)

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 11:56 AM
To: af mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11x - frequency reuse ??

I don't see why not, as long as you can talk a frequency coordinator into doing 
it. It's not like anyone else is going to object to it.





Gino Villarini

President

Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968


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On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 10:55 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote:


will they approve self interfering links?

On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 10:51 AM, Mathew Howard 
mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Yeah... talk to a frequency coordinator. My understanding is, that if you file 
an application that would only interfere with your own stuff, nobody is going 
to care, and it'll go through fine... obviously you would have to make sure you 
weren't really interfering with your other links.

On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 10:42 AM, Faisal Imtiaz 
mailto:fai...@snappytelecom.net>> wrote:
This question is best to be asked to your Freq. coordinator...

Some of your assumptions are not quite the way things work :)

Regards.

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: 
supp...@snappytelecom.net<mailto:supp...@snappytelecom.net>


From: "Paul McCall" mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net>>
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 11:28:31 AM
Subject: [AFMUG] AF11x - frequency reuse ??
Just had a thought as we have a tower with 2  11ghz links on them ATM, and I 
would love to add a 3rd and 4th.

Wondering if the AF11x is designed for frequency reuse, and does the FCC 
understand that so they wouldn’t kick back the application because of “lack of 
available frequencies” ?

Sorry if that has already been discussed.  Been buried for a couple weeks (in 
all ways here) and digging back out!

Paul McCall, President
PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.
658 Old Dixie Highway
Vero Beach, FL 32962
772-564-6800
pa...@pdmnet.net<mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net>
www.pdmnet.com<http://www.pdmnet.com/>
www.floridabroadband.com<http://www.floridabroadband.com/>







--
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as 
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] AF11x - frequency reuse ??

[Mathew Howard]

And it's better than the AF5x type of frequency re-use, since you could mix
any brand of full duplex radios.

On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 11:20 AM, Adam Moffett  wrote:

> Yup.  What Faisal said.
>
> Basically the two co-located units transmitting on the same channel
> doesn't matter as long the two remote ends each hear only one of them.
> Usually the beamwidth is so narrow that you have lots of re-use opportunity.
>
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: "Faisal Imtiaz" 
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: 1/17/2017 12:12:13 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11x - frequency reuse ??
>
>
> . Since one channel (dedicated) is used for TX and another one
> (dedicate) for RX ... with appropriate separation it is possible to make
> things work...
>
> :)
>
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> Miami, FL 33155
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <(305)%20663-5518>
>
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <(305)%20663-5518> Option 2 or Email:
> supp...@snappytelecom.net
>
> ----------
>
> *From: *"Gino Villarini" 
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Tuesday, January 17, 2017 12:07:54 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] AF11x - frequency reuse ??
>
> Theres no need for gps sync reuse in fdx world …
>
> From: Af  on behalf of Paul McCall  >
> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
> Date: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 at 1:02 PM
> To: "af@afmug.com" 
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11x - frequency reuse ??
>
> OK.  CAN they work with Re-Use like the 5x stuff does?  (licensing aside)
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] *On
> Behalf Of *Mathew Howard
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 17, 2017 11:56 AM
> *To:* af 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] AF11x - frequency reuse ??
>
>
>
> I don't see why not, as long as you can talk a frequency coordinator into
> doing it. It's not like anyone else is going to object to it.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *Gino Villarini*
> President
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>
> On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 10:55 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> will they approve self interfering links?
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 10:51 AM, Mathew Howard 
> wrote:
>
> Yeah... talk to a frequency coordinator. My understanding is, that if you
> file an application that would only interfere with your own stuff, nobody
> is going to care, and it'll go through fine... obviously you would have to
> make sure you weren't really interfering with your other links.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 10:42 AM, Faisal Imtiaz 
> wrote:
>
> This question is best to be asked to your Freq. coordinator...
>
>
>
> Some of your assumptions are not quite the way things work :)
>
>
>
> Regards.
>
>
>
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> Miami, FL 33155
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <(305)%20663-5518>
>
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <(305)%20663-5518> Option 2 or Email:
> supp...@snappytelecom.net
>
>
> --
>
> *From: *"Paul McCall" 
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Tuesday, January 17, 2017 11:28:31 AM
> *Subject: *[AFMUG] AF11x - frequency reuse ??
>
> Just had a thought as we have a tower with 2  11ghz links on them ATM, and
> I would love to add a 3rd and 4th.
>
>
>
> Wondering if the AF11x is designed for frequency reuse, and does the FCC
> understand that so they wouldn’t kick back the application because of “lack
> of available frequencies” ?
>
>
>
> Sorry if that has already been discussed.  Been buried for a couple weeks
> (in all ways here) and digging back out!
>
>
>
> Paul McCall, President
>
> PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.
>
> 658 Old Dixie Highway
>
> Vero Beach, FL 32962
>
> 772-564-6800 <(772)%20564-6800>
>
> pa...@pdmnet.net
>
> www.pdmnet.com
>
> www.floridabroadband.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] AF11x - frequency reuse ??

[Adam Moffett]

Yup.  What Faisal said.

Basically the two co-located units transmitting on the same channel 
doesn't matter as long the two remote ends each hear only one of them.  
Usually the beamwidth is so narrow that you have lots of re-use 
opportunity.



-- Original Message --
From: "Faisal Imtiaz" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 1/17/2017 12:12:13 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11x - frequency reuse ??

. Since one channel (dedicated) is used for TX and another one 
(dedicate) for RX ... with appropriate separation it is possible to 
make things work...


:)

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net



From: "Gino Villarini" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 12:07:54 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11x - frequency reuse ??
Theres no need for gps sync reuse in fdx world …

From: Af  on behalf of Paul McCall 


Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
Date: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 at 1:02 PM
To: "af@afmug.com" 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11x - frequency reuse ??

OK.  CAN they work with Re-Use like the 5x stuff does?  (licensing 
aside)




From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 11:56 AM
To: af 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11x - frequency reuse ??



I don't see why not, as long as you can talk a frequency coordinator 
into doing it. It's not like anyone else is going to object to it.








Gino Villarini

PresidentMetro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 10:55 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
 wrote:




will they approve self interfering links?



On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 10:51 AM, Mathew Howard 
 wrote:


Yeah... talk to a frequency coordinator. My understanding is, that 
if you file an application that would only interfere with your own 
stuff, nobody is going to care, and it'll go through fine... 
obviously you would have to make sure you weren't really interfering 
with your other links.




On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 10:42 AM, Faisal Imtiaz 
 wrote:



This question is best to be asked to your Freq. coordinator...



Some of your assumptions are not quite the way things work :)



Regards.



Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: 
supp...@snappytelecom.net






From: "Paul McCall" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 11:28:31 AM
Subject: [AFMUG] AF11x - frequency reuse ??

Just had a thought as we have a tower with 2  11ghz links on them 
ATM, and I would love to add a 3rd and 4th.




Wondering if the AF11x is designed for frequency reuse, and does 
the FCC understand that so they wouldn’t kick back the application 
because of “lack of available frequencies” ?




Sorry if that has already been discussed.  Been buried for a 
couple weeks (in all ways here) and digging back out!




Paul McCall, President

PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.

658 Old Dixie Highway

Vero Beach, FL 32962

772-564-6800

pa...@pdmnet.net

www.pdmnet.com

www.floridabroadband.com
















--

If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your 
team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] AF11x - frequency reuse ??

[Faisal Imtiaz]

. Since one channel (dedicated) is used for TX and another one (dedicate) 
for RX ... with appropriate separation it is possible to make things work... 

:) 

Faisal Imtiaz 
Snappy Internet & Telecom 
7266 SW 48 Street 
Miami, FL 33155 
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 

> From: "Gino Villarini" 
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 12:07:54 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11x - frequency reuse ??

> Theres no need for gps sync reuse in fdx world …

> From: Af < af-boun...@afmug.com > on behalf of Paul McCall < pa...@pdmnet.net 
> >
> Reply-To: " af@afmug.com " < af@afmug.com >
> Date: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 at 1:02 PM
> To: " af@afmug.com " < af@afmug.com >
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11x - frequency reuse ??

> OK. CAN they work with Re-Use like the 5x stuff does? (licensing aside)

> From: Af [ mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard
> Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 11:56 AM
> To: af < af@afmug.com >
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11x - frequency reuse ??

> I don't see why not, as long as you can talk a frequency coordinator into 
> doing
> it. It's not like anyone else is going to object to it.

> Gino Villarini
> President
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

> On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 10:55 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com > wrote:

>> will they approve self interfering links?

>> On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 10:51 AM, Mathew Howard < mhoward...@gmail.com > 
>> wrote:
>>> Yeah... talk to a frequency coordinator. My understanding is, that if you 
>>> file
>>> an application that would only interfere with your own stuff, nobody is 
>>> going
>>> to care, and it'll go through fine... obviously you would have to make sure 
>>> you
>>> weren't really interfering with your other links.

>>> On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 10:42 AM, Faisal Imtiaz < fai...@snappytelecom.net >
>>> wrote:
>>>> This question is best to be asked to your Freq. coordinator...

>>>> Some of your assumptions are not quite the way things work :)

>>>> Regards.

>>>> Faisal Imtiaz
>>>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>>>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>>>> Miami, FL 33155
>>>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

>>>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net

>>>>> From: "Paul McCall" < pa...@pdmnet.net >
>>>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 11:28:31 AM
>>>>> Subject: [AFMUG] AF11x - frequency reuse ??
>>>>> Just had a thought as we have a tower with 2 11ghz links on them ATM, and 
>>>>> I
>>>>> would love to add a 3 rd and 4 th .

>>>>> Wondering if the AF11x is designed for frequency reuse, and does the FCC
>>>>> understand that so they wouldn’t kick back the application because of 
>>>>> “lack of
>>>>> available frequencies” ?

>>>>> Sorry if that has already been discussed. Been buried for a couple weeks 
>>>>> (in all
>>>>> ways here) and digging back out!

>>>>> Paul McCall, President

>>>>> PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.

>>>>> 658 Old Dixie Highway

>>>>> Vero Beach, FL 32962

>>>>> 772-564-6800

>>>>> pa...@pdmnet.net

>>>>> www.pdmnet.com

>>>>> www.floridabroadband.com

>> --

>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as 
>> part
>> of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] AF11x - frequency reuse ??

[Gino Villarini]

Theres no need for gps sync reuse in fdx world …

From: Af mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of Paul 
McCall mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net>>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" 
mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Date: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 at 1:02 PM
To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11x - frequency reuse ??

OK.  CAN they work with Re-Use like the 5x stuff does?  (licensing aside)

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 11:56 AM
To: af mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11x - frequency reuse ??

I don't see why not, as long as you can talk a frequency coordinator into doing 
it. It's not like anyone else is going to object to it.




Gino Villarini


President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

[cid:aeronet-logo_310cfc3e-6691-4f69-bd49-b37b834b9238.png]

On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 10:55 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote:
will they approve self interfering links?

On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 10:51 AM, Mathew Howard 
mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Yeah... talk to a frequency coordinator. My understanding is, that if you file 
an application that would only interfere with your own stuff, nobody is going 
to care, and it'll go through fine... obviously you would have to make sure you 
weren't really interfering with your other links.

On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 10:42 AM, Faisal Imtiaz 
mailto:fai...@snappytelecom.net>> wrote:
This question is best to be asked to your Freq. coordinator...

Some of your assumptions are not quite the way things work :)

Regards.

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: 
supp...@snappytelecom.net<mailto:supp...@snappytelecom.net>


From: "Paul McCall" mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net>>
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 11:28:31 AM
Subject: [AFMUG] AF11x - frequency reuse ??
Just had a thought as we have a tower with 2  11ghz links on them ATM, and I 
would love to add a 3rd and 4th.

Wondering if the AF11x is designed for frequency reuse, and does the FCC 
understand that so they wouldn’t kick back the application because of “lack of 
available frequencies” ?

Sorry if that has already been discussed.  Been buried for a couple weeks (in 
all ways here) and digging back out!

Paul McCall, President
PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.
658 Old Dixie Highway
Vero Beach, FL 32962
772-564-6800
pa...@pdmnet.net<mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net>
www.pdmnet.com<http://www.pdmnet.com>
www.floridabroadband.com<http://www.floridabroadband.com>







--
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as 
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] AF11x - frequency reuse ??

[Paul McCall]

OK.  CAN they work with Re-Use like the 5x stuff does?  (licensing aside)

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 11:56 AM
To: af 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11x - frequency reuse ??

I don't see why not, as long as you can talk a frequency coordinator into doing 
it. It's not like anyone else is going to object to it.

On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 10:55 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote:
will they approve self interfering links?

On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 10:51 AM, Mathew Howard 
mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Yeah... talk to a frequency coordinator. My understanding is, that if you file 
an application that would only interfere with your own stuff, nobody is going 
to care, and it'll go through fine... obviously you would have to make sure you 
weren't really interfering with your other links.

On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 10:42 AM, Faisal Imtiaz 
mailto:fai...@snappytelecom.net>> wrote:
This question is best to be asked to your Freq. coordinator...

Some of your assumptions are not quite the way things work :)

Regards.

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: 
supp...@snappytelecom.net<mailto:supp...@snappytelecom.net>


From: "Paul McCall" mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net>>
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 11:28:31 AM
Subject: [AFMUG] AF11x - frequency reuse ??
Just had a thought as we have a tower with 2  11ghz links on them ATM, and I 
would love to add a 3rd and 4th.

Wondering if the AF11x is designed for frequency reuse, and does the FCC 
understand that so they wouldn’t kick back the application because of “lack of 
available frequencies” ?

Sorry if that has already been discussed.  Been buried for a couple weeks (in 
all ways here) and digging back out!

Paul McCall, President
PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.
658 Old Dixie Highway
Vero Beach, FL 32962
772-564-6800
pa...@pdmnet.net<mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net>
www.pdmnet.com<http://www.pdmnet.com>
www.floridabroadband.com<http://www.floridabroadband.com>







--
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as 
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] AF11x - frequency reuse ??

[Mathew Howard]

I don't see why not, as long as you can talk a frequency coordinator into
doing it. It's not like anyone else is going to object to it.

On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 10:55 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> will they approve self interfering links?
>
> On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 10:51 AM, Mathew Howard 
> wrote:
>
>> Yeah... talk to a frequency coordinator. My understanding is, that if you
>> file an application that would only interfere with your own stuff, nobody
>> is going to care, and it'll go through fine... obviously you would have to
>> make sure you weren't really interfering with your other links.
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 10:42 AM, Faisal Imtiaz > > wrote:
>>
>>> This question is best to be asked to your Freq. coordinator...
>>>
>>> Some of your assumptions are not quite the way things work :)
>>>
>>> Regards.
>>>
>>> Faisal Imtiaz
>>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>>> Miami, FL 33155
>>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <(305)%20663-5518>
>>>
>>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <(305)%20663-5518> Option 2 or Email:
>>> supp...@snappytelecom.net
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> *From: *"Paul McCall" 
>>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>>> *Sent: *Tuesday, January 17, 2017 11:28:31 AM
>>> *Subject: *[AFMUG] AF11x - frequency reuse ??
>>>
>>> Just had a thought as we have a tower with 2  11ghz links on them ATM,
>>> and I would love to add a 3rd and 4th.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Wondering if the AF11x is designed for frequency reuse, and does the FCC
>>> understand that so they wouldn’t kick back the application because of “lack
>>> of available frequencies” ?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sorry if that has already been discussed.  Been buried for a couple
>>> weeks (in all ways here) and digging back out!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Paul McCall, President
>>>
>>> PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.
>>>
>>> 658 Old Dixie Highway
>>>
>>> Vero Beach, FL 32962
>>>
>>> 772-564-6800 <(772)%20564-6800>
>>>
>>> pa...@pdmnet.net
>>>
>>> www.pdmnet.com
>>>
>>> www.floridabroadband.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>

Re: [AFMUG] AF11x - frequency reuse ??

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

will they approve self interfering links?

On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 10:51 AM, Mathew Howard 
wrote:

> Yeah... talk to a frequency coordinator. My understanding is, that if you
> file an application that would only interfere with your own stuff, nobody
> is going to care, and it'll go through fine... obviously you would have to
> make sure you weren't really interfering with your other links.
>
> On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 10:42 AM, Faisal Imtiaz 
> wrote:
>
>> This question is best to be asked to your Freq. coordinator...
>>
>> Some of your assumptions are not quite the way things work :)
>>
>> Regards.
>>
>> Faisal Imtiaz
>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>> Miami, FL 33155
>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <(305)%20663-5518>
>>
>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <(305)%20663-5518> Option 2 or Email:
>> supp...@snappytelecom.net
>>
>> --
>>
>> *From: *"Paul McCall" 
>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>> *Sent: *Tuesday, January 17, 2017 11:28:31 AM
>> *Subject: *[AFMUG] AF11x - frequency reuse ??
>>
>> Just had a thought as we have a tower with 2  11ghz links on them ATM,
>> and I would love to add a 3rd and 4th.
>>
>>
>>
>> Wondering if the AF11x is designed for frequency reuse, and does the FCC
>> understand that so they wouldn’t kick back the application because of “lack
>> of available frequencies” ?
>>
>>
>>
>> Sorry if that has already been discussed.  Been buried for a couple weeks
>> (in all ways here) and digging back out!
>>
>>
>>
>> Paul McCall, President
>>
>> PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.
>>
>> 658 Old Dixie Highway
>>
>> Vero Beach, FL 32962
>>
>> 772-564-6800 <(772)%20564-6800>
>>
>> pa...@pdmnet.net
>>
>> www.pdmnet.com
>>
>> www.floridabroadband.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>


-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] AF11x - frequency reuse ??

[Mathew Howard]

Yeah... talk to a frequency coordinator. My understanding is, that if you
file an application that would only interfere with your own stuff, nobody
is going to care, and it'll go through fine... obviously you would have to
make sure you weren't really interfering with your other links.

On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 10:42 AM, Faisal Imtiaz 
wrote:

> This question is best to be asked to your Freq. coordinator...
>
> Some of your assumptions are not quite the way things work :)
>
> Regards.
>
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> Miami, FL 33155
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <(305)%20663-5518>
>
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <(305)%20663-5518> Option 2 or Email:
> supp...@snappytelecom.net
>
> --
>
> *From: *"Paul McCall" 
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Tuesday, January 17, 2017 11:28:31 AM
> *Subject: *[AFMUG] AF11x - frequency reuse ??
>
> Just had a thought as we have a tower with 2  11ghz links on them ATM, and
> I would love to add a 3rd and 4th.
>
>
>
> Wondering if the AF11x is designed for frequency reuse, and does the FCC
> understand that so they wouldn’t kick back the application because of “lack
> of available frequencies” ?
>
>
>
> Sorry if that has already been discussed.  Been buried for a couple weeks
> (in all ways here) and digging back out!
>
>
>
> Paul McCall, President
>
> PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.
>
> 658 Old Dixie Highway
>
> Vero Beach, FL 32962
>
> 772-564-6800 <(772)%20564-6800>
>
> pa...@pdmnet.net
>
> www.pdmnet.com
>
> www.floridabroadband.com
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>
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] AF11x - frequency reuse ??

[Faisal Imtiaz]

This question is best to be asked to your Freq. coordinator... 

Some of your assumptions are not quite the way things work :) 

Regards. 

Faisal Imtiaz 
Snappy Internet & Telecom 
7266 SW 48 Street 
Miami, FL 33155 
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 

> From: "Paul McCall" 
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 11:28:31 AM
> Subject: [AFMUG] AF11x - frequency reuse ??

> Just had a thought as we have a tower with 2 11ghz links on them ATM, and I
> would love to add a 3 rd and 4 th .

> Wondering if the AF11x is designed for frequency reuse, and does the FCC
> understand that so they wouldn’t kick back the application because of “lack of
> available frequencies” ?

> Sorry if that has already been discussed. Been buried for a couple weeks (in 
> all
> ways here) and digging back out!

> Paul McCall, President

> PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.

> 658 Old Dixie Highway

> Vero Beach, FL 32962

> 772-564-6800

> pa...@pdmnet.net

> www.pdmnet.com

> www.floridabroadband.com

Re: [AFMUG] AF11x - frequency reuse ??

[Seth Mattinen]

On 1/17/17 08:28, Paul McCall wrote:

Just had a thought as we have a tower with 2  11ghz links on them ATM,
and I would love to add a 3^rd and 4^th .



Wondering if the AF11x is designed for frequency reuse, and does the FCC
understand that so they wouldn�t kick back the application because of
�lack of available frequencies� ?




If a coordinator says there's no channels available then there's no 
channels available because you are going to interfere with someone else. 
11GHz can carry a long way.


~Seth