Re: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding
If you own all ends of the links, you should be able to do this with some RB750s. Less than $50 a piece. The stuff at your NOC end(s) probably would not need to change. If the plastic case on the RB750 turns you off, then the RB2011 would do the trick for about double the price. bp On 11/6/2014 8:36 AM, Chuck McCown via Af wrote: But if I want to do 100 of these, with a NOC and 100 subs, I don’t want to have discrete devices on both ends of each circuit. Prefer to use link aggregation of some sort that would function kinda like a PMP radio protocol. So one big something at the NOC that can know how to handle dual paths to a CPE. *From:* Mike Hammett via Af <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Sent:* Thursday, November 06, 2014 9:31 AM *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding I'd probably go with an RB2011 for ~$100. If you can control the network on both ends (with a Mikrotik also at the upstream side), that makes your life easier. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL> *From: *"Chuck McCown via Af" *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Thursday, November 6, 2014 10:29:58 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding Need to probably hit 50 Mbps. *From:* Rory Conaway via Af <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Sent:* Thursday, November 06, 2014 9:29 AM *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding Get a used Peplink off ebay. I’ve got a couple of older ones I’ll sell you but they are limited to 10-15Mbps. rory *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett via Af *Sent:* Thursday, November 6, 2014 9:26 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding Is Luthman here? I bet if you bought him a Giordano's pizza, he'd do it. :-p www.routerboard.com <http://www.routerboard.com> They have everything from $50 "SOHO" style routers on up to $1,200 Dual SFP+ (and others) boxes. How networking knowledgeable are you? http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Load_Balancing There's a TON of stuff in their WIKI. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL> *From: *"Chuck McCown via Af" mailto:af@afmug.com>> *To: *af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Sent: *Thursday, November 6, 2014 10:22:07 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding Yeah, I anticipated that answer. I have next to zero experience with MT. Not to say I am not willing to learn. So, what exactly would it take? Just the router? Do those things come in nice consumer grade cases? Seems to me the last time I had one it was a bare PCB. (Back in 2003)... How about a bill of materials, a configuration listing, perhaps come and set it up for me and teach us a class... We would buy the pizza... *From:*Mike Hammett via Af <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Sent:*Thursday, November 06, 2014 9:19 AM *To:*af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding Mikrotik. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL> *From: *"Chuck McCown via Af" mailto:af@afmug.com>> *To: *af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Sent: *Thursday, November 6, 2014 10:18:12 AM *Subject: *[AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding Any ideas of how to bond a wireless connection to a DSL connection for more bandwidth and redundancy? I have control over both ends of both circuits. Same IP space etc. Just don’t know if there is a low cost solution that could be applied to only the customer’s end.
Re: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding
They are expensive but I can get a decent discount if you can’t find a good
online price.
rory
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett via Af
Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 12:30 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding
Yeah that's a tough one. The simple methods won't work right. I hate sharing
unequal paths because it takes a simple job and makes it a hard one. I don't
know what those Peplink things cost, but if Dennis can do it with Mikrotik and
supply you a configuration script to run on the CPE then you could use those
$100 RB2011's.
You are assuming correctly.
From: Adam Moffett via Af <mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 10:26 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding
I assume the DSL and wireless links are not the same size? That would
make it way too easy.
But if I want to do 100 of these, with a NOC and 100 subs, I
don’t want to have discrete devices on both ends of each circuit. Prefer to
use link aggregation of some sort that would function kinda like a PMP radio
protocol. So one big something at the NOC that can know how to handle dual
paths to a CPE.
From: Mike Hammett via Af <mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 9:31 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding
I'd probably go with an RB2011 for ~$100. If you can control
the network on both ends (with a Mikrotik also at the upstream side), that
makes your life easier.
-
Mike Hammett
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From: "Chuck McCown via Af" mailto:af@afmug.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 10:29:58 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding
Need to probably hit 50 Mbps.
From: Rory Conaway via Af <mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 9:29 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding
Get a used Peplink off ebay. I’ve got a couple of older ones
I’ll sell you but they are limited to 10-15Mbps.
rory
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike
Hammett via Af
Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 9:26 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding
Is Luthman here? I bet if you bought him a Giordano's pizza,
he'd do it. :-p
www.routerboard.com
They have everything from $50 "SOHO" style routers on up to
$1,200 Dual SFP+ (and others) boxes.
How networking knowledgeable are you?
http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Load_Balancing
There's a TON of stuff in their WIKI.
-
Mike Hammett
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From: "Chuck McCown via Af"
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 10:22:07 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding
Yeah, I anticipated that answer. I have next to zero
experience with MT. Not to say I am not willing to learn.
So, what exactly would it take? Just the router? Do those
things come in nice consumer grade cases? Seems to me the last time I had one
it was a bare PCB. (Back in 2003)...
How about a bill of materials, a configuration listing, perhaps
come and set it up for me and teach us
Re: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding
Yeah that's a tough one. The simple methods won't work right. I hate sharing unequal paths because it takes a simple job and makes it a hard one. I don't know what those Peplink things cost, but if Dennis can do it with Mikrotik and supply you a configuration script to run on the CPE then you could use those $100 RB2011's. You are assuming correctly. *From:* Adam Moffett via Af <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Sent:* Thursday, November 06, 2014 10:26 AM *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding I assume the DSL and wireless links are not the same size? That would make it way too easy. But if I want to do 100 of these, with a NOC and 100 subs, I don’t want to have discrete devices on both ends of each circuit. Prefer to use link aggregation of some sort that would function kinda like a PMP radio protocol. So one big something at the NOC that can know how to handle dual paths to a CPE. *From:* Mike Hammett via Af <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Sent:* Thursday, November 06, 2014 9:31 AM *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding I'd probably go with an RB2011 for ~$100. If you can control the network on both ends (with a Mikrotik also at the upstream side), that makes your life easier. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL> *From: *"Chuck McCown via Af" mailto:af@afmug.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Thursday, November 6, 2014 10:29:58 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding Need to probably hit 50 Mbps. *From:* Rory Conaway via Af <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Sent:* Thursday, November 06, 2014 9:29 AM *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding Get a used Peplink off ebay. I’ve got a couple of older ones I’ll sell you but they are limited to 10-15Mbps. rory *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett via Af *Sent:* Thursday, November 6, 2014 9:26 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding Is Luthman here? I bet if you bought him a Giordano's pizza, he'd do it. :-p www.routerboard.com <http://www.routerboard.com> They have everything from $50 "SOHO" style routers on up to $1,200 Dual SFP+ (and others) boxes. How networking knowledgeable are you? http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Load_Balancing There's a TON of stuff in their WIKI. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL> *From: *"Chuck McCown via Af" mailto:af@afmug.com>> *To: *af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Sent: *Thursday, November 6, 2014 10:22:07 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding Yeah, I anticipated that answer. I have next to zero experience with MT. Not to say I am not willing to learn. So, what exactly would it take? Just the router? Do those things come in nice consumer grade cases? Seems to me the last time I had one it was a bare PCB. (Back in 2003)... How about a bill of materials, a configuration listing, perhaps come and set it up for me and teach us a class... We would buy the pizza... *From:*Mike Hammett via Af <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Sent:*Thursday, November 06, 2014 9:19 AM *To:*af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding Mikrotik. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL> *From: *"Chuck McCown via Af" mailto:af@afmug.com>> *To: *af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Sent: *Thursday, November 6, 2014 10:18:12 AM *Subject: *[AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding Any ideas of how to bond a wireless connection to a DSL connection for more bandwidth and redundancy? I have control over both ends of both circuits. Same IP space etc. Just don’t know if there is a low cost solution that could be applied to only the customer’s end.
Re: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding
You are assuming correctly. From: Adam Moffett via Af Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 10:26 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding I assume the DSL and wireless links are not the same size? That would make it way too easy. But if I want to do 100 of these, with a NOC and 100 subs, I don’t want to have discrete devices on both ends of each circuit. Prefer to use link aggregation of some sort that would function kinda like a PMP radio protocol. So one big something at the NOC that can know how to handle dual paths to a CPE. From: Mike Hammett via Af Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 9:31 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding I'd probably go with an RB2011 for ~$100. If you can control the network on both ends (with a Mikrotik also at the upstream side), that makes your life easier. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: "Chuck McCown via Af" mailto:af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 10:29:58 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding Need to probably hit 50 Mbps. From: Rory Conaway via Af Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 9:29 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding Get a used Peplink off ebay. I’ve got a couple of older ones I’ll sell you but they are limited to 10-15Mbps. rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett via Af Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 9:26 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding Is Luthman here? I bet if you bought him a Giordano's pizza, he'd do it. :-p www.routerboard.com They have everything from $50 "SOHO" style routers on up to $1,200 Dual SFP+ (and others) boxes. How networking knowledgeable are you? http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Load_Balancing There's a TON of stuff in their WIKI. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: "Chuck McCown via Af" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 10:22:07 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding Yeah, I anticipated that answer. I have next to zero experience with MT. Not to say I am not willing to learn. So, what exactly would it take? Just the router? Do those things come in nice consumer grade cases? Seems to me the last time I had one it was a bare PCB. (Back in 2003)... How about a bill of materials, a configuration listing, perhaps come and set it up for me and teach us a class... We would buy the pizza... From: Mike Hammett via Af Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 9:19 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding Mikrotik. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: "Chuck McCown via Af" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 10:18:12 AM Subject: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding Any ideas of how to bond a wireless connection to a DSL connection for more bandwidth and redundancy? I have control over both ends of both circuits. Same IP space etc. Just don’t know if there is a low cost solution that could be applied to only the customer’s end.
Re: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding
I assume the DSL and wireless links are not the same size? That would make it way too easy. But if I want to do 100 of these, with a NOC and 100 subs, I don’t want to have discrete devices on both ends of each circuit. Prefer to use link aggregation of some sort that would function kinda like a PMP radio protocol. So one big something at the NOC that can know how to handle dual paths to a CPE. *From:* Mike Hammett via Af <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Sent:* Thursday, November 06, 2014 9:31 AM *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding I'd probably go with an RB2011 for ~$100. If you can control the network on both ends (with a Mikrotik also at the upstream side), that makes your life easier. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL> *From: *"Chuck McCown via Af" *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Thursday, November 6, 2014 10:29:58 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding Need to probably hit 50 Mbps. *From:* Rory Conaway via Af <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Sent:* Thursday, November 06, 2014 9:29 AM *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding Get a used Peplink off ebay. I’ve got a couple of older ones I’ll sell you but they are limited to 10-15Mbps. rory *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett via Af *Sent:* Thursday, November 6, 2014 9:26 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding Is Luthman here? I bet if you bought him a Giordano's pizza, he'd do it. :-p www.routerboard.com <http://www.routerboard.com> They have everything from $50 "SOHO" style routers on up to $1,200 Dual SFP+ (and others) boxes. How networking knowledgeable are you? http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Load_Balancing There's a TON of stuff in their WIKI. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL> *From: *"Chuck McCown via Af" mailto:af@afmug.com>> *To: *af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Sent: *Thursday, November 6, 2014 10:22:07 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding Yeah, I anticipated that answer. I have next to zero experience with MT. Not to say I am not willing to learn. So, what exactly would it take? Just the router? Do those things come in nice consumer grade cases? Seems to me the last time I had one it was a bare PCB. (Back in 2003)... How about a bill of materials, a configuration listing, perhaps come and set it up for me and teach us a class... We would buy the pizza... *From:*Mike Hammett via Af <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Sent:*Thursday, November 06, 2014 9:19 AM *To:*af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding Mikrotik. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL> *From: *"Chuck McCown via Af" mailto:af@afmug.com>> *To: *af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Sent: *Thursday, November 6, 2014 10:18:12 AM *Subject: *[AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding Any ideas of how to bond a wireless connection to a DSL connection for more bandwidth and redundancy? I have control over both ends of both circuits. Same IP space etc. Just don’t know if there is a low cost solution that could be applied to only the customer’s end.
Re: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding
Chuck, Hit me off-list, be glad to help out. We have all of that in stock as well as have the engineers to help get your config working. . Just need to know more of what the goal is and design constraints. Dennis Burgess, CTO, Link Technologies, Inc. den...@linktechs.net – 314-735-0270 – www.linktechs.net From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via Af Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 10:18 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding Any ideas of how to bond a wireless connection to a DSL connection for more bandwidth and redundancy? I have control over both ends of both circuits. Same IP space etc. Just don’t know if there is a low cost solution that could be applied to only the customer’s end.
Re: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding
That would seem like a good fit for one of Mikrotik's cloud core routers. doing 50Mbps, you could probably even get away with an RB750 for the CPE end. I haven't played with bonding though, so it might be better to go for an RB2011. From: Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of Mike Hammett via Af [af@afmug.com] Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 10:41 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding You could just get a beefier Mikrotik for the center and have one or two (for redundancy of your "core"). - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]<https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/ICSIL> From: "Chuck McCown via Af" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 10:36:35 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding But if I want to do 100 of these, with a NOC and 100 subs, I don’t want to have discrete devices on both ends of each circuit. Prefer to use link aggregation of some sort that would function kinda like a PMP radio protocol. So one big something at the NOC that can know how to handle dual paths to a CPE. From: Mike Hammett via Af<mailto:af@afmug.com> Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 9:31 AM To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding I'd probably go with an RB2011 for ~$100. If you can control the network on both ends (with a Mikrotik also at the upstream side), that makes your life easier. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]<https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/ICSIL> From: "Chuck McCown via Af" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 10:29:58 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding Need to probably hit 50 Mbps. From: Rory Conaway via Af<mailto:af@afmug.com> Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 9:29 AM To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding Get a used Peplink off ebay. I’ve got a couple of older ones I’ll sell you but they are limited to 10-15Mbps. rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett via Af Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 9:26 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding Is Luthman here? I bet if you bought him a Giordano's pizza, he'd do it. :-p www.routerboard.com<http://www.routerboard.com> They have everything from $50 "SOHO" style routers on up to $1,200 Dual SFP+ (and others) boxes. How networking knowledgeable are you? http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Load_Balancing There's a TON of stuff in their WIKI. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]<https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/ICSIL> ____________________ From: "Chuck McCown via Af" mailto:af@afmug.com>> To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 10:22:07 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding Yeah, I anticipated that answer. I have next to zero experience with MT. Not to say I am not willing to learn. So, what exactly would it take? Just the router? Do those things come in nice consumer grade cases? Seems to me the last time I had one it was a bare PCB. (Back in 2003)... How about a bill of materials, a configuration listing, perhaps come and set it up for me and teach us a class... We would buy the pizza... From: Mike Hammett via Af<mailto:af@afmug.com> Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 9:19 AM To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding Mikrotik. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]<https://plus.google.com/+
Re: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding
See if Multapplied Networks has a reseller in your area. True bonding, load balancing, failover, QoS, etc. On 2014-11-06 11:29 AM, Chuck McCown via Af wrote: Need to probably hit 50 Mbps. *From:* Rory Conaway via Af <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Sent:* Thursday, November 06, 2014 9:29 AM *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding Get a used Peplink off ebay. I’ve got a couple of older ones I’ll sell you but they are limited to 10-15Mbps. rory *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett via Af *Sent:* Thursday, November 6, 2014 9:26 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding Is Luthman here? I bet if you bought him a Giordano's pizza, he'd do it. :-p www.routerboard.com <http://www.routerboard.com> They have everything from $50 "SOHO" style routers on up to $1,200 Dual SFP+ (and others) boxes. How networking knowledgeable are you? http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Load_Balancing There's a TON of stuff in their WIKI. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL> *From: *"Chuck McCown via Af" mailto:af@afmug.com>> *To: *af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Sent: *Thursday, November 6, 2014 10:22:07 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding Yeah, I anticipated that answer. I have next to zero experience with MT. Not to say I am not willing to learn. So, what exactly would it take? Just the router? Do those things come in nice consumer grade cases? Seems to me the last time I had one it was a bare PCB. (Back in 2003)... How about a bill of materials, a configuration listing, perhaps come and set it up for me and teach us a class... We would buy the pizza... *From:*Mike Hammett via Af <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Sent:*Thursday, November 06, 2014 9:19 AM *To:*af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding Mikrotik. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL> *From: *"Chuck McCown via Af" mailto:af@afmug.com>> *To: *af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Sent: *Thursday, November 6, 2014 10:18:12 AM *Subject: *[AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding Any ideas of how to bond a wireless connection to a DSL connection for more bandwidth and redundancy? I have control over both ends of both circuits. Same IP space etc. Just don’t know if there is a low cost solution that could be applied to only the customer’s end.
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http://www.peplink.com/products/balance/ From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via Af Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 9:46 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding Thanks, lots to digest. From: Rory Conaway via Af <mailto:af@afmug.com> Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 9:44 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding Then if budget allows it, just buy new ones. Peplink is one the absolute best for this application. The support multiple redundant links and best path analysis. We have used them for 10 years with zero issues. The biggest one I have is the 710 but the newer ones are even faster. For corporate application, set and forget and you don’t need a network person to set them up, manage, or monitor them. They are really simple. If you want to log into one and see it, let me know. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via Af Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 9:30 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding Need to probably hit 50 Mbps. From: Rory Conaway via Af <mailto:af@afmug.com> Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 9:29 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding Get a used Peplink off ebay. I’ve got a couple of older ones I’ll sell you but they are limited to 10-15Mbps. rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett via Af Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 9:26 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding Is Luthman here? I bet if you bought him a Giordano's pizza, he'd do it. :-p www.routerboard.com They have everything from $50 "SOHO" style routers on up to $1,200 Dual SFP+ (and others) boxes. How networking knowledgeable are you? http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Load_Balancing There's a TON of stuff in their WIKI. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> From: "Chuck McCown via Af" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 10:22:07 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding Yeah, I anticipated that answer. I have next to zero experience with MT. Not to say I am not willing to learn. So, what exactly would it take? Just the router? Do those things come in nice consumer grade cases? Seems to me the last time I had one it was a bare PCB. (Back in 2003)... How about a bill of materials, a configuration listing, perhaps come and set it up for me and teach us a class... We would buy the pizza... From: Mike Hammett via Af <mailto:af@afmug.com> Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 9:19 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding Mikrotik. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> From: "Chuck McCown via Af" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 10:18:12 AM Subject: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding Any ideas of how to bond a wireless connection to a DSL connection for more bandwidth and redundancy? I have control over both ends of both circuits. Same IP space etc. Just don’t know if there is a low cost solution that could be applied to only the customer’s end.
Re: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding
Thanks, lots to digest. From: Rory Conaway via Af Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 9:44 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding Then if budget allows it, just buy new ones. Peplink is one the absolute best for this application. The support multiple redundant links and best path analysis. We have used them for 10 years with zero issues. The biggest one I have is the 710 but the newer ones are even faster. For corporate application, set and forget and you don’t need a network person to set them up, manage, or monitor them. They are really simple. If you want to log into one and see it, let me know. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via Af Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 9:30 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding Need to probably hit 50 Mbps. From: Rory Conaway via Af Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 9:29 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding Get a used Peplink off ebay. I’ve got a couple of older ones I’ll sell you but they are limited to 10-15Mbps. rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett via Af Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 9:26 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding Is Luthman here? I bet if you bought him a Giordano's pizza, he'd do it. :-p www.routerboard.com They have everything from $50 "SOHO" style routers on up to $1,200 Dual SFP+ (and others) boxes. How networking knowledgeable are you? http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Load_Balancing There's a TON of stuff in their WIKI. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: "Chuck McCown via Af" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 10:22:07 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding Yeah, I anticipated that answer. I have next to zero experience with MT. Not to say I am not willing to learn. So, what exactly would it take? Just the router? Do those things come in nice consumer grade cases? Seems to me the last time I had one it was a bare PCB. (Back in 2003)... How about a bill of materials, a configuration listing, perhaps come and set it up for me and teach us a class... We would buy the pizza... From: Mike Hammett via Af Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 9:19 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding Mikrotik. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: "Chuck McCown via Af" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 10:18:12 AM Subject: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding Any ideas of how to bond a wireless connection to a DSL connection for more bandwidth and redundancy? I have control over both ends of both circuits. Same IP space etc. Just don’t know if there is a low cost solution that could be applied to only the customer’s end.
Re: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding
Then if budget allows it, just buy new ones. Peplink is one the absolute best for this application. The support multiple redundant links and best path analysis. We have used them for 10 years with zero issues. The biggest one I have is the 710 but the newer ones are even faster. For corporate application, set and forget and you don’t need a network person to set them up, manage, or monitor them. They are really simple. If you want to log into one and see it, let me know. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via Af Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 9:30 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding Need to probably hit 50 Mbps. From: Rory Conaway via Af <mailto:af@afmug.com> Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 9:29 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding Get a used Peplink off ebay. I’ve got a couple of older ones I’ll sell you but they are limited to 10-15Mbps. rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett via Af Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 9:26 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding Is Luthman here? I bet if you bought him a Giordano's pizza, he'd do it. :-p www.routerboard.com They have everything from $50 "SOHO" style routers on up to $1,200 Dual SFP+ (and others) boxes. How networking knowledgeable are you? http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Load_Balancing There's a TON of stuff in their WIKI. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> From: "Chuck McCown via Af" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 10:22:07 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding Yeah, I anticipated that answer. I have next to zero experience with MT. Not to say I am not willing to learn. So, what exactly would it take? Just the router? Do those things come in nice consumer grade cases? Seems to me the last time I had one it was a bare PCB. (Back in 2003)... How about a bill of materials, a configuration listing, perhaps come and set it up for me and teach us a class... We would buy the pizza... From: Mike Hammett via Af <mailto:af@afmug.com> Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 9:19 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding Mikrotik. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> From: "Chuck McCown via Af" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 10:18:12 AM Subject: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding Any ideas of how to bond a wireless connection to a DSL connection for more bandwidth and redundancy? I have control over both ends of both circuits. Same IP space etc. Just don’t know if there is a low cost solution that could be applied to only the customer’s end.
Re: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding
You could just get a beefier Mikrotik for the center and have one or two (for redundancy of your "core"). - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Chuck McCown via Af" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 10:36:35 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding But if I want to do 100 of these, with a NOC and 100 subs, I don’t want to have discrete devices on both ends of each circuit. Prefer to use link aggregation of some sort that would function kinda like a PMP radio protocol. So one big something at the NOC that can know how to handle dual paths to a CPE. From: Mike Hammett via Af Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 9:31 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding I'd probably go with an RB2011 for ~$100. If you can control the network on both ends (with a Mikrotik also at the upstream side), that makes your life easier. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Chuck McCown via Af" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 10:29:58 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding Need to probably hit 50 Mbps. From: Rory Conaway via Af Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 9:29 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding Get a used Peplink off ebay. I’ve got a couple of older ones I’ll sell you but they are limited to 10-15Mbps. rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett via Af Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 9:26 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding Is Luthman here? I bet if you bought him a Giordano's pizza, he'd do it. :-p www.routerboard.com They have everything from $50 "SOHO" style routers on up to $1,200 Dual SFP+ (and others) boxes. How networking knowledgeable are you? http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Load_Balancing There's a TON of stuff in their WIKI. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Chuck McCown via Af" < af@afmug.com > To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 10:22:07 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding Yeah, I anticipated that answer. I have next to zero experience with MT. Not to say I am not willing to learn. So, what exactly would it take? Just the router? Do those things come in nice consumer grade cases? Seems to me the last time I had one it was a bare PCB. (Back in 2003)... How about a bill of materials, a configuration listing, perhaps come and set it up for me and teach us a class... We would buy the pizza... From: Mike Hammett via Af Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 9:19 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding Mikrotik. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Chuck McCown via Af" < af@afmug.com > To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 10:18:12 AM Subject: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding Any ideas of how to bond a wireless connection to a DSL connection for more bandwidth and redundancy? I have control over both ends of both circuits. Same IP space etc. Just don’t know if there is a low cost solution that could be applied to only the customer’s end.
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Mikrotik. You could do all sorts of fancy things. OSPF if you just want to split the load. Policy routing if you want to direct traffic based on the capabilities of the connection or whatever. bp On 11/6/2014 8:18 AM, Chuck McCown via Af wrote: Any ideas of how to bond a wireless connection to a DSL connection for more bandwidth and redundancy? I have control over both ends of both circuits. Same IP space etc. Just don’t know if there is a low cost solution that could be applied to only the customer’s end.
Re: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding
But if I want to do 100 of these, with a NOC and 100 subs, I don’t want to have discrete devices on both ends of each circuit. Prefer to use link aggregation of some sort that would function kinda like a PMP radio protocol. So one big something at the NOC that can know how to handle dual paths to a CPE. From: Mike Hammett via Af Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 9:31 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding I'd probably go with an RB2011 for ~$100. If you can control the network on both ends (with a Mikrotik also at the upstream side), that makes your life easier. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: "Chuck McCown via Af" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 10:29:58 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding Need to probably hit 50 Mbps. From: Rory Conaway via Af Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 9:29 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding Get a used Peplink off ebay. I’ve got a couple of older ones I’ll sell you but they are limited to 10-15Mbps. rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett via Af Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 9:26 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding Is Luthman here? I bet if you bought him a Giordano's pizza, he'd do it. :-p www.routerboard.com They have everything from $50 "SOHO" style routers on up to $1,200 Dual SFP+ (and others) boxes. How networking knowledgeable are you? http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Load_Balancing There's a TON of stuff in their WIKI. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: "Chuck McCown via Af" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 10:22:07 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding Yeah, I anticipated that answer. I have next to zero experience with MT. Not to say I am not willing to learn. So, what exactly would it take? Just the router? Do those things come in nice consumer grade cases? Seems to me the last time I had one it was a bare PCB. (Back in 2003)... How about a bill of materials, a configuration listing, perhaps come and set it up for me and teach us a class... We would buy the pizza... From: Mike Hammett via Af Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 9:19 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding Mikrotik. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: "Chuck McCown via Af" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 10:18:12 AM Subject: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding Any ideas of how to bond a wireless connection to a DSL connection for more bandwidth and redundancy? I have control over both ends of both circuits. Same IP space etc. Just don’t know if there is a low cost solution that could be applied to only the customer’s end.
Re: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding
I'd probably go with an RB2011 for ~$100. If you can control the network on both ends (with a Mikrotik also at the upstream side), that makes your life easier. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Chuck McCown via Af" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 10:29:58 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding Need to probably hit 50 Mbps. From: Rory Conaway via Af Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 9:29 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding Get a used Peplink off ebay. I’ve got a couple of older ones I’ll sell you but they are limited to 10-15Mbps. rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett via Af Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 9:26 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding Is Luthman here? I bet if you bought him a Giordano's pizza, he'd do it. :-p www.routerboard.com They have everything from $50 "SOHO" style routers on up to $1,200 Dual SFP+ (and others) boxes. How networking knowledgeable are you? http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Load_Balancing There's a TON of stuff in their WIKI. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Chuck McCown via Af" < af@afmug.com > To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 10:22:07 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding Yeah, I anticipated that answer. I have next to zero experience with MT. Not to say I am not willing to learn. So, what exactly would it take? Just the router? Do those things come in nice consumer grade cases? Seems to me the last time I had one it was a bare PCB. (Back in 2003)... How about a bill of materials, a configuration listing, perhaps come and set it up for me and teach us a class... We would buy the pizza... From: Mike Hammett via Af Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 9:19 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding Mikrotik. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Chuck McCown via Af" < af@afmug.com > To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 10:18:12 AM Subject: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding Any ideas of how to bond a wireless connection to a DSL connection for more bandwidth and redundancy? I have control over both ends of both circuits. Same IP space etc. Just don’t know if there is a low cost solution that could be applied to only the customer’s end.
Re: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding
Need to probably hit 50 Mbps. From: Rory Conaway via Af Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 9:29 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding Get a used Peplink off ebay. I’ve got a couple of older ones I’ll sell you but they are limited to 10-15Mbps. rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett via Af Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 9:26 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding Is Luthman here? I bet if you bought him a Giordano's pizza, he'd do it. :-p www.routerboard.com They have everything from $50 "SOHO" style routers on up to $1,200 Dual SFP+ (and others) boxes. How networking knowledgeable are you? http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Load_Balancing There's a TON of stuff in their WIKI. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: "Chuck McCown via Af" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 10:22:07 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding Yeah, I anticipated that answer. I have next to zero experience with MT. Not to say I am not willing to learn. So, what exactly would it take? Just the router? Do those things come in nice consumer grade cases? Seems to me the last time I had one it was a bare PCB. (Back in 2003)... How about a bill of materials, a configuration listing, perhaps come and set it up for me and teach us a class... We would buy the pizza... From: Mike Hammett via Af Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 9:19 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding Mikrotik. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: "Chuck McCown via Af" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 10:18:12 AM Subject: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding Any ideas of how to bond a wireless connection to a DSL connection for more bandwidth and redundancy? I have control over both ends of both circuits. Same IP space etc. Just don’t know if there is a low cost solution that could be applied to only the customer’s end.
Re: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding
Get a used Peplink off ebay. I’ve got a couple of older ones I’ll sell you but they are limited to 10-15Mbps. rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett via Af Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 9:26 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding Is Luthman here? I bet if you bought him a Giordano's pizza, he'd do it. :-p www.routerboard.com They have everything from $50 "SOHO" style routers on up to $1,200 Dual SFP+ (and others) boxes. How networking knowledgeable are you? http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Load_Balancing There's a TON of stuff in their WIKI. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> From: "Chuck McCown via Af" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 10:22:07 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding Yeah, I anticipated that answer. I have next to zero experience with MT. Not to say I am not willing to learn. So, what exactly would it take? Just the router? Do those things come in nice consumer grade cases? Seems to me the last time I had one it was a bare PCB. (Back in 2003)... How about a bill of materials, a configuration listing, perhaps come and set it up for me and teach us a class... We would buy the pizza... From: Mike Hammett via Af <mailto:af@afmug.com> Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 9:19 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding Mikrotik. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> From: "Chuck McCown via Af" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 10:18:12 AM Subject: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding Any ideas of how to bond a wireless connection to a DSL connection for more bandwidth and redundancy? I have control over both ends of both circuits. Same IP space etc. Just don’t know if there is a low cost solution that could be applied to only the customer’s end.
Re: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding
My networking knowledge is bifurcated. I can do the ASIC, the PCB design, the firmware, the case design, the manufacturing. I can do a network design on paper showing symbols for routers etc from the 50,000 ft level. But in the middle, where you configure layer 2 and 3, details, details, minions do that stuff... (such a pain having to learn stuff I don’t wanna learn!!!) From: Mike Hammett via Af Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 9:26 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding Is Luthman here? I bet if you bought him a Giordano's pizza, he'd do it. :-p www.routerboard.com They have everything from $50 "SOHO" style routers on up to $1,200 Dual SFP+ (and others) boxes. How networking knowledgeable are you? http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Load_Balancing There's a TON of stuff in their WIKI. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: "Chuck McCown via Af" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 10:22:07 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding Yeah, I anticipated that answer. I have next to zero experience with MT. Not to say I am not willing to learn. So, what exactly would it take? Just the router? Do those things come in nice consumer grade cases? Seems to me the last time I had one it was a bare PCB. (Back in 2003)... How about a bill of materials, a configuration listing, perhaps come and set it up for me and teach us a class... We would buy the pizza... From: Mike Hammett via Af Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 9:19 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding Mikrotik. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: "Chuck McCown via Af" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 10:18:12 AM Subject: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding Any ideas of how to bond a wireless connection to a DSL connection for more bandwidth and redundancy? I have control over both ends of both circuits. Same IP space etc. Just don’t know if there is a low cost solution that could be applied to only the customer’s end.
Re: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding
Is Luthman here? I bet if you bought him a Giordano's pizza, he'd do it. :-p www.routerboard.com They have everything from $50 "SOHO" style routers on up to $1,200 Dual SFP+ (and others) boxes. How networking knowledgeable are you? http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Load_Balancing There's a TON of stuff in their WIKI. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Chuck McCown via Af" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 10:22:07 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding Yeah, I anticipated that answer. I have next to zero experience with MT. Not to say I am not willing to learn. So, what exactly would it take? Just the router? Do those things come in nice consumer grade cases? Seems to me the last time I had one it was a bare PCB. (Back in 2003)... How about a bill of materials, a configuration listing, perhaps come and set it up for me and teach us a class... We would buy the pizza... From: Mike Hammett via Af Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 9:19 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding Mikrotik. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Chuck McCown via Af" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 10:18:12 AM Subject: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding Any ideas of how to bond a wireless connection to a DSL connection for more bandwidth and redundancy? I have control over both ends of both circuits. Same IP space etc. Just don’t know if there is a low cost solution that could be applied to only the customer’s end.
Re: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding
Yeah, I anticipated that answer. I have next to zero experience with MT. Not to say I am not willing to learn. So, what exactly would it take? Just the router? Do those things come in nice consumer grade cases? Seems to me the last time I had one it was a bare PCB. (Back in 2003)... How about a bill of materials, a configuration listing, perhaps come and set it up for me and teach us a class... We would buy the pizza... From: Mike Hammett via Af Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 9:19 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding Mikrotik. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: "Chuck McCown via Af" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 10:18:12 AM Subject: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding Any ideas of how to bond a wireless connection to a DSL connection for more bandwidth and redundancy? I have control over both ends of both circuits. Same IP space etc. Just don’t know if there is a low cost solution that could be applied to only the customer’s end.
Re: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding
Mikrotik. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Chuck McCown via Af" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 10:18:12 AM Subject: [AFMUG] Cheap and dirty bonding Any ideas of how to bond a wireless connection to a DSL connection for more bandwidth and redundancy? I have control over both ends of both circuits. Same IP space etc. Just don’t know if there is a low cost solution that could be applied to only the customer’s end.
