Re: [AFMUG] Everyone.Net
All over again. And again. And again. And again bp On 2/3/2015 10:45 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: deja vu -Original Message- From: Travis Johnson Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2015 11:36 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Everyone.Net We ran our own email server with 12,000 email accounts. It took up about 2 hours per week for a sysadmin person. Not really that hard. Everyone.Net is STILL having issues with their email systems. Going on 28 hours now. Amazing how they can still be in business. Travis On 2/2/2015 9:06 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: On 2/2/15 6:40 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Email is hard It's not technically hard. But email needs a lot of babysitting now. It's a burden to deal with the moving target of spam, scams, phishing, and viruses. Add to that users complaining about too much spam, false positives, deleted an email they really needed right now, not enough spam, etc. ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] Everyone.Net
I actually sold to JAB, but when we were using them, things worked really well, nice user webmail interface. My old customers are still using ORI, JAB has not converted yet. Erich Kaiser North Central Tower Consulting er...@northcentraltower.com Office: 630-621-4804 Cell: 630-777-9291 On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 5:43 PM, Matt wrote: > > I looked at migrating our email to them several months ago, called > several > > times and never got a response, so ended up going with Scott over at > > ORI.net. > > How do they charge? How are you liking them? >
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Zimbra? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Matt To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tue, 03 Feb 2015 17:45:03 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Everyone.Net > It's not technically hard. But email needs a lot of babysitting now. It's a > burden to deal with the moving target of spam, scams, phishing, and viruses. > Add to that users complaining about too much spam, false positives, deleted > an email they really needed right now, not enough spam, etc. Its really too bad there is not an opensource project with something thats almost as good as gmail etc. You would think there would be quite a demand for it.
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Are you serious? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 3, 2015 6:45 PM, "Matt" wrote: > > It's not technically hard. But email needs a lot of babysitting now. > It's a > > burden to deal with the moving target of spam, scams, phishing, and > viruses. > > Add to that users complaining about too much spam, false positives, > deleted > > an email they really needed right now, not enough spam, etc. > > Its really too bad there is not an opensource project with something > thats almost as good as gmail etc. You would think there would be > quite a demand for it. >
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> It's not technically hard. But email needs a lot of babysitting now. It's a > burden to deal with the moving target of spam, scams, phishing, and viruses. > Add to that users complaining about too much spam, false positives, deleted > an email they really needed right now, not enough spam, etc. Its really too bad there is not an opensource project with something thats almost as good as gmail etc. You would think there would be quite a demand for it.
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> I looked at migrating our email to them several months ago, called several > times and never got a response, so ended up going with Scott over at > ORI.net. How do they charge? How are you liking them?
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I looked at migrating our email to them several months ago, called several times and never got a response, so ended up going with Scott over at ORI.net. Erich Kaiser North Central Tower Consulting er...@northcentraltower.com Office: 630-621-4804 Cell: 630-777-9291 On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 4:29 PM, Chris Wright wrote: > I am loving that these are still coming in... Go for 6? > > Chris Wright > Velociter Wireless > > -Original Message- > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson > Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2015 1:55 PM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Everyone.Net > > We ran our own email server with 12,000 email accounts. It took up about > 2 hours per week for a sysadmin person. Not really that hard. > > Everyone.Net is STILL having issues with their email systems. Going on > 24 hours now. Amazing how they can still be in business. > > Travis > > On 2/2/2015 9:06 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: > > On 2/2/15 6:40 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > >> Email is hard > > > > > > It's not technically hard. But email needs a lot of babysitting now. > > It's a burden to deal with the moving target of spam, scams, phishing, > > and viruses. Add to that users complaining about too much spam, false > > positives, deleted an email they really needed right now, not enough > > spam, etc. > > > > ~Seth > > > > > > >
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I am loving that these are still coming in... Go for 6? Chris Wright Velociter Wireless -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2015 1:55 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Everyone.Net We ran our own email server with 12,000 email accounts. It took up about 2 hours per week for a sysadmin person. Not really that hard. Everyone.Net is STILL having issues with their email systems. Going on 24 hours now. Amazing how they can still be in business. Travis On 2/2/2015 9:06 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: > On 2/2/15 6:40 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: >> Email is hard > > > It's not technically hard. But email needs a lot of babysitting now. > It's a burden to deal with the moving target of spam, scams, phishing, > and viruses. Add to that users complaining about too much spam, false > positives, deleted an email they really needed right now, not enough > spam, etc. > > ~Seth >
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that's like 5 times dudeyou're just bragging lol We ran our own email server with 12,000 email accounts. It took up about 2 hours per week for a sysadmin person. Not really that hard. Everyone.Net is STILL having issues with their email systems. Going on 24 hours now. Amazing how they can still be in business. Travis On 2/2/2015 9:06 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: On 2/2/15 6:40 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Email is hard It's not technically hard. But email needs a lot of babysitting now. It's a burden to deal with the moving target of spam, scams, phishing, and viruses. Add to that users complaining about too much spam, false positives, deleted an email they really needed right now, not enough spam, etc. ~Seth
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We ran our own email server with 12,000 email accounts. It took up about 2 hours per week for a sysadmin person. Not really that hard. Everyone.Net is STILL having issues with their email systems. Going on 24 hours now. Amazing how they can still be in business. Travis On 2/2/2015 9:06 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: On 2/2/15 6:40 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Email is hard It's not technically hard. But email needs a lot of babysitting now. It's a burden to deal with the moving target of spam, scams, phishing, and viruses. Add to that users complaining about too much spam, false positives, deleted an email they really needed right now, not enough spam, etc. ~Seth
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Me too lol Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone - Reply message - From: "Josh Luthman" To: Subject: [AFMUG] Everyone.Net Date: Tue, Feb 3, 2015 1:39 PM I think he's resending it for the lulz Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 3, 2015 2:27 PM, "Gino Villarini" wrote:Travis, we know! Gino A. Villarini @gvillarini > On Feb 3, 2015, at 2:37 PM, Travis Johnson wrote: > > We ran our own email server with 12,000 email accounts. It took up about 2 > hours per week for a sysadmin person. Not really that hard. > > Everyone.Net is STILL having issues with their email systems. Going on 28 > hours now. Amazing how they can still be in business. > > Travis > >> On 2/2/2015 9:06 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: >>> On 2/2/15 6:40 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: >>> Email is hard >> >> >> It's not technically hard. But email needs a lot of babysitting now. It's a >> burden to deal with the moving target of spam, scams, phishing, and viruses. >> Add to that users complaining about too much spam, false positives, deleted >> an email they really needed right now, not enough spam, etc. >> >> ~Seth >
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Wait...you sent a message complaining that SMTP was down using the server that the complaint was about? You sound like a customer! ;) On Feb 3, 2015 2:56 PM, "Travis Johnson" wrote: > All those message were not me... that was one of the great "features" of > the Everyone.Net mail system mess. I only sent the message once. > > Travis > > On 2/3/2015 12:27 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: > >> Travis, we know! >> >> Gino A. Villarini >> @gvillarini >> >> >> >> On Feb 3, 2015, at 2:37 PM, Travis Johnson wrote: >>> >>> We ran our own email server with 12,000 email accounts. It took up about >>> 2 hours per week for a sysadmin person. Not really that hard. >>> >>> Everyone.Net is STILL having issues with their email systems. Going on >>> 28 hours now. Amazing how they can still be in business. >>> >>> Travis >>> >>> On 2/2/2015 9:06 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: > On 2/2/15 6:40 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > Email is hard > It's not technically hard. But email needs a lot of babysitting now. It's a burden to deal with the moving target of spam, scams, phishing, and viruses. Add to that users complaining about too much spam, false positives, deleted an email they really needed right now, not enough spam, etc. ~Seth >>> >
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Nice! - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Travis Johnson" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, February 3, 2015 1:56:00 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Everyone.Net All those message were not me... that was one of the great "features" of the Everyone.Net mail system mess. I only sent the message once. Travis On 2/3/2015 12:27 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: > Travis, we know! > > Gino A. Villarini > @gvillarini > > > >> On Feb 3, 2015, at 2:37 PM, Travis Johnson wrote: >> >> We ran our own email server with 12,000 email accounts. It took up about 2 >> hours per week for a sysadmin person. Not really that hard. >> >> Everyone.Net is STILL having issues with their email systems. Going on 28 >> hours now. Amazing how they can still be in business. >> >> Travis >> >>> On 2/2/2015 9:06 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: >>>> On 2/2/15 6:40 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: >>>> Email is hard >>> >>> It's not technically hard. But email needs a lot of babysitting now. It's a >>> burden to deal with the moving target of spam, scams, phishing, and >>> viruses. Add to that users complaining about too much spam, false >>> positives, deleted an email they really needed right now, not enough spam, >>> etc. >>> >>> ~Seth
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All those message were not me... that was one of the great "features" of the Everyone.Net mail system mess. I only sent the message once. Travis On 2/3/2015 12:27 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: Travis, we know! Gino A. Villarini @gvillarini On Feb 3, 2015, at 2:37 PM, Travis Johnson wrote: We ran our own email server with 12,000 email accounts. It took up about 2 hours per week for a sysadmin person. Not really that hard. Everyone.Net is STILL having issues with their email systems. Going on 28 hours now. Amazing how they can still be in business. Travis On 2/2/2015 9:06 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: On 2/2/15 6:40 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Email is hard It's not technically hard. But email needs a lot of babysitting now. It's a burden to deal with the moving target of spam, scams, phishing, and viruses. Add to that users complaining about too much spam, false positives, deleted an email they really needed right now, not enough spam, etc. ~Seth
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I think he's resending it for the lulz Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 3, 2015 2:27 PM, "Gino Villarini" wrote: > Travis, we know! > > Gino A. Villarini > @gvillarini > > > > > On Feb 3, 2015, at 2:37 PM, Travis Johnson wrote: > > > > We ran our own email server with 12,000 email accounts. It took up about > 2 hours per week for a sysadmin person. Not really that hard. > > > > Everyone.Net is STILL having issues with their email systems. Going on > 28 hours now. Amazing how they can still be in business. > > > > Travis > > > >> On 2/2/2015 9:06 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: > >>> On 2/2/15 6:40 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > >>> Email is hard > >> > >> > >> It's not technically hard. But email needs a lot of babysitting now. > It's a burden to deal with the moving target of spam, scams, phishing, and > viruses. Add to that users complaining about too much spam, false > positives, deleted an email they really needed right now, not enough spam, > etc. > >> > >> ~Seth > > >
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Travis, we know! Gino A. Villarini @gvillarini > On Feb 3, 2015, at 2:37 PM, Travis Johnson wrote: > > We ran our own email server with 12,000 email accounts. It took up about 2 > hours per week for a sysadmin person. Not really that hard. > > Everyone.Net is STILL having issues with their email systems. Going on 28 > hours now. Amazing how they can still be in business. > > Travis > >> On 2/2/2015 9:06 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: >>> On 2/2/15 6:40 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: >>> Email is hard >> >> >> It's not technically hard. But email needs a lot of babysitting now. It's a >> burden to deal with the moving target of spam, scams, phishing, and viruses. >> Add to that users complaining about too much spam, false positives, deleted >> an email they really needed right now, not enough spam, etc. >> >> ~Seth >
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deja vu -Original Message- From: Travis Johnson Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2015 11:36 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Everyone.Net We ran our own email server with 12,000 email accounts. It took up about 2 hours per week for a sysadmin person. Not really that hard. Everyone.Net is STILL having issues with their email systems. Going on 28 hours now. Amazing how they can still be in business. Travis On 2/2/2015 9:06 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: On 2/2/15 6:40 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Email is hard It's not technically hard. But email needs a lot of babysitting now. It's a burden to deal with the moving target of spam, scams, phishing, and viruses. Add to that users complaining about too much spam, false positives, deleted an email they really needed right now, not enough spam, etc. ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] Everyone.Net
We ran our own email server with 12,000 email accounts. It took up about 2 hours per week for a sysadmin person. Not really that hard. Everyone.Net is STILL having issues with their email systems. Going on 28 hours now. Amazing how they can still be in business. Travis On 2/2/2015 9:06 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: On 2/2/15 6:40 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Email is hard It's not technically hard. But email needs a lot of babysitting now. It's a burden to deal with the moving target of spam, scams, phishing, and viruses. Add to that users complaining about too much spam, false positives, deleted an email they really needed right now, not enough spam, etc. ~Seth
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We ran our own email server with 12,000 email accounts. It took up about 2 hours per week for a sysadmin person. Not really that hard. Everyone.Net is STILL having issues with their email systems. Going on 28 hours now. Amazing how they can still be in business. Travis On 2/2/2015 9:06 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: On 2/2/15 6:40 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Email is hard It's not technically hard. But email needs a lot of babysitting now. It's a burden to deal with the moving target of spam, scams, phishing, and viruses. Add to that users complaining about too much spam, false positives, deleted an email they really needed right now, not enough spam, etc. ~Seth
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LOL! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 3, 2015 12:36 PM, "Travis Johnson" wrote: > We ran our own email server with 12,000 email accounts. It took up about 2 > hours per week for a sysadmin person. Not really that hard. > > Everyone.Net is STILL having issues with their email systems. Going on 24 > hours now. Amazing how they can still be in business. > > Travis > > On 2/2/2015 9:06 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: > >> On 2/2/15 6:40 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: >> >>> Email is hard >>> >> >> >> It's not technically hard. But email needs a lot of babysitting now. It's >> a burden to deal with the moving target of spam, scams, phishing, and >> viruses. Add to that users complaining about too much spam, false >> positives, deleted an email they really needed right now, not enough spam, >> etc. >> >> ~Seth >> >> >
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We ran our own email server with 12,000 email accounts. It took up about 2 hours per week for a sysadmin person. Not really that hard. Everyone.Net is STILL having issues with their email systems. Going on 24 hours now. Amazing how they can still be in business. Travis On 2/2/2015 9:06 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: On 2/2/15 6:40 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Email is hard It's not technically hard. But email needs a lot of babysitting now. It's a burden to deal with the moving target of spam, scams, phishing, and viruses. Add to that users complaining about too much spam, false positives, deleted an email they really needed right now, not enough spam, etc. ~Seth
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Hey we can do a session on AF on how to run email systems! You can be the speaker! Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr On 2/3/15, 1:26 PM, "Travis Johnson" wrote: >We ran our own email server with 12,000 email accounts. It took up about >2 hours per week for a sysadmin person. Not really that hard. > >Everyone.Net is STILL having issues with their email systems. Going on >24 hours now. Amazing how they can still be in business. > >Travis > >On 2/2/2015 9:06 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: >> On 2/2/15 6:40 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: >>> Email is hard >> >> >> It's not technically hard. But email needs a lot of babysitting now. >> It's a burden to deal with the moving target of spam, scams, phishing, >> and viruses. Add to that users complaining about too much spam, false >> positives, deleted an email they really needed right now, not enough >> spam, etc. >> >> ~Seth >> >
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Geez everyone is so serious :) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 3, 2015 12:28 PM, "Mike Hammett" wrote: > I've had that from my phone in poor signal areas. > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > -- > *From: *"Josh Luthman" > *To: *af@afmug.com > *Sent: *Tuesday, February 3, 2015 11:27:40 AM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Everyone.Net > > Looks like your SMTP server is double sending message XD > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 12:26 PM, Travis Johnson wrote: > >> We ran our own email server with 12,000 email accounts. It took up about >> 2 hours per week for a sysadmin person. Not really that hard. >> >> Everyone.Net is STILL having issues with their email systems. Going on 24 >> hours now. Amazing how they can still be in business. >> >> Travis >> >> On 2/2/2015 9:06 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: >> >>> On 2/2/15 6:40 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: >>> >>>> Email is hard >>>> >>> >>> >>> It's not technically hard. But email needs a lot of babysitting now. >>> It's a burden to deal with the moving target of spam, scams, phishing, and >>> viruses. Add to that users complaining about too much spam, false >>> positives, deleted an email they really needed right now, not enough spam, >>> etc. >>> >>> ~Seth >>> >>> >> > >
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I've had that from my phone in poor signal areas. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Josh Luthman" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, February 3, 2015 11:27:40 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Everyone.Net Looks like your SMTP server is double sending message XD Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 12:26 PM, Travis Johnson < t...@ida.net > wrote: We ran our own email server with 12,000 email accounts. It took up about 2 hours per week for a sysadmin person. Not really that hard. Everyone.Net is STILL having issues with their email systems. Going on 24 hours now. Amazing how they can still be in business. Travis On 2/2/2015 9:06 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: On 2/2/15 6:40 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Email is hard It's not technically hard. But email needs a lot of babysitting now. It's a burden to deal with the moving target of spam, scams, phishing, and viruses. Add to that users complaining about too much spam, false positives, deleted an email they really needed right now, not enough spam, etc. ~Seth
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Looks like your SMTP server is double sending message XD Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 12:26 PM, Travis Johnson wrote: > We ran our own email server with 12,000 email accounts. It took up about 2 > hours per week for a sysadmin person. Not really that hard. > > Everyone.Net is STILL having issues with their email systems. Going on 24 > hours now. Amazing how they can still be in business. > > Travis > > On 2/2/2015 9:06 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: > >> On 2/2/15 6:40 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: >> >>> Email is hard >>> >> >> >> It's not technically hard. But email needs a lot of babysitting now. It's >> a burden to deal with the moving target of spam, scams, phishing, and >> viruses. Add to that users complaining about too much spam, false >> positives, deleted an email they really needed right now, not enough spam, >> etc. >> >> ~Seth >> >> >
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We ran our own email server with 12,000 email accounts. It took up about 2 hours per week for a sysadmin person. Not really that hard. Everyone.Net is STILL having issues with their email systems. Going on 24 hours now. Amazing how they can still be in business. Travis On 2/2/2015 9:06 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: On 2/2/15 6:40 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Email is hard It's not technically hard. But email needs a lot of babysitting now. It's a burden to deal with the moving target of spam, scams, phishing, and viruses. Add to that users complaining about too much spam, false positives, deleted an email they really needed right now, not enough spam, etc. ~Seth
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You must be mistaken. Their website says proven 99.99% service reliability. You can't put something on the Internet if it isn't true. -Original Message- From: Travis Johnson Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2015 10:24 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Everyone.Net We ran our own email server with 12,000 email accounts. It took up about 2 hours per week for a sysadmin person. Not really that hard. Everyone.Net is STILL having issues with their email systems. Going on 24 hours now. Amazing how they can still be in business. Travis On 2/2/2015 9:06 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: On 2/2/15 6:40 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Email is hard It's not technically hard. But email needs a lot of babysitting now. It's a burden to deal with the moving target of spam, scams, phishing, and viruses. Add to that users complaining about too much spam, false positives, deleted an email they really needed right now, not enough spam, etc. ~Seth
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Business customers, I could see. Well, on a Zimbra\Exchange type environment. Not standard e-mail. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Josh Luthman" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, February 3, 2015 10:31:37 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Everyone.Net I'm amazed how they can charge customers $5 for an account. Even if it did work all the time. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 11:24 AM, Travis Johnson < t...@ida.net > wrote: We ran our own email server with 12,000 email accounts. It took up about 2 hours per week for a sysadmin person. Not really that hard. Everyone.Net is STILL having issues with their email systems. Going on 24 hours now. Amazing how they can still be in business. Travis On 2/2/2015 9:06 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: On 2/2/15 6:40 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Email is hard It's not technically hard. But email needs a lot of babysitting now. It's a burden to deal with the moving target of spam, scams, phishing, and viruses. Add to that users complaining about too much spam, false positives, deleted an email they really needed right now, not enough spam, etc. ~Seth
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I'm amazed how they can charge customers $5 for an account. Even if it did work all the time. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 11:24 AM, Travis Johnson wrote: > We ran our own email server with 12,000 email accounts. It took up about 2 > hours per week for a sysadmin person. Not really that hard. > > Everyone.Net is STILL having issues with their email systems. Going on 24 > hours now. Amazing how they can still be in business. > > > Travis > > On 2/2/2015 9:06 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: > >> On 2/2/15 6:40 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: >> >>> Email is hard >>> >> >> >> It's not technically hard. But email needs a lot of babysitting now. It's >> a burden to deal with the moving target of spam, scams, phishing, and >> viruses. Add to that users complaining about too much spam, false >> positives, deleted an email they really needed right now, not enough spam, >> etc. >> >> ~Seth >> >> >
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We ran our own email server with 12,000 email accounts. It took up about 2 hours per week for a sysadmin person. Not really that hard. Everyone.Net is STILL having issues with their email systems. Going on 24 hours now. Amazing how they can still be in business. Travis On 2/2/2015 9:06 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: On 2/2/15 6:40 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Email is hard It's not technically hard. But email needs a lot of babysitting now. It's a burden to deal with the moving target of spam, scams, phishing, and viruses. Add to that users complaining about too much spam, false positives, deleted an email they really needed right now, not enough spam, etc. ~Seth
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We ran our own email server with 12,000 email accounts. It took up about 2 hours per week for a sysadmin person. Not really that hard. Travis On 2/2/2015 9:06 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: On 2/2/15 6:40 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Email is hard It's not technically hard. But email needs a lot of babysitting now. It's a burden to deal with the moving target of spam, scams, phishing, and viruses. Add to that users complaining about too much spam, false positives, deleted an email they really needed right now, not enough spam, etc. ~Seth
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No, it's not technically hard, but it's most certainly a pain in the ass. Josh On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 11:06 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: > On 2/2/15 6:40 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > >> Email is hard >> > > > It's not technically hard. But email needs a lot of babysitting now. It's > a burden to deal with the moving target of spam, scams, phishing, and > viruses. Add to that users complaining about too much spam, false > positives, deleted an email they really needed right now, not enough spam, > etc. > > ~Seth >
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I'm totally joking :P Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 2, 2015 11:07 PM, "Seth Mattinen" wrote: > On 2/2/15 6:40 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > >> Email is hard >> > > > It's not technically hard. But email needs a lot of babysitting now. It's > a burden to deal with the moving target of spam, scams, phishing, and > viruses. Add to that users complaining about too much spam, false > positives, deleted an email they really needed right now, not enough spam, > etc. > > ~Seth >
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On 2/2/15 6:40 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Email is hard It's not technically hard. But email needs a lot of babysitting now. It's a burden to deal with the moving target of spam, scams, phishing, and viruses. Add to that users complaining about too much spam, false positives, deleted an email they really needed right now, not enough spam, etc. ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] Everyone.Net
Depends what they're paying them... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 2, 2015 10:57 PM, "Jeremy" wrote: > Well they charge $5.00 per email for their customers who cancel. That's > good money! They should be able to afford something better. You would > think with nearly 250K customers that it would make sense to run your own > mail system. That is a ton of revenue going to everyone.net. > > On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 8:30 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: > >> When you go cheap, it'll bite you in the ass. >> >> >> >> - >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> http://www.ics-il.com >> >> -- >> *From: *"Travis Johnson" >> *To: *af@afmug.com >> *Sent: *Monday, February 2, 2015 7:48:47 PM >> *Subject: *[AFMUG] Everyone.Net >> >> Hi, >> >> When Digis purchased my company 20 months ago, they moved all of our >> email accounts (over 10,000 of them) to Everyone.Net. I'm not sure if we >> were one of their larger domains, but during the last 20 months, they >> have had more outages and problems than we had during the previous 10 >> years. >> >> Their SMTP service has been unresponsive for the last 8 hours... and >> their response is "we are working on it". Amazing. All they do is email >> and they can't even keep an SMTP service running. >> >> Travis >> >> >> >
Re: [AFMUG] Everyone.Net
Well they charge $5.00 per email for their customers who cancel. That's good money! They should be able to afford something better. You would think with nearly 250K customers that it would make sense to run your own mail system. That is a ton of revenue going to everyone.net. On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 8:30 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: > When you go cheap, it'll bite you in the ass. > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > -- > *From: *"Travis Johnson" > *To: *af@afmug.com > *Sent: *Monday, February 2, 2015 7:48:47 PM > *Subject: *[AFMUG] Everyone.Net > > Hi, > > When Digis purchased my company 20 months ago, they moved all of our > email accounts (over 10,000 of them) to Everyone.Net. I'm not sure if we > were one of their larger domains, but during the last 20 months, they > have had more outages and problems than we had during the previous 10 > years. > > Their SMTP service has been unresponsive for the last 8 hours... and > their response is "we are working on it". Amazing. All they do is email > and they can't even keep an SMTP service running. > > Travis > > >
Re: [AFMUG] Everyone.Net
When you go cheap, it'll bite you in the ass. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Travis Johnson" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, February 2, 2015 7:48:47 PM Subject: [AFMUG] Everyone.Net Hi, When Digis purchased my company 20 months ago, they moved all of our email accounts (over 10,000 of them) to Everyone.Net. I'm not sure if we were one of their larger domains, but during the last 20 months, they have had more outages and problems than we had during the previous 10 years. Their SMTP service has been unresponsive for the last 8 hours... and their response is "we are working on it". Amazing. All they do is email and they can't even keep an SMTP service running. Travis
Re: [AFMUG] Everyone.Net
Email is hard Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 2, 2015 8:48 PM, "Travis Johnson" wrote: > Hi, > > When Digis purchased my company 20 months ago, they moved all of our email > accounts (over 10,000 of them) to Everyone.Net. I'm not sure if we were one > of their larger domains, but during the last 20 months, they have had more > outages and problems than we had during the previous 10 years. > > Their SMTP service has been unresponsive for the last 8 hours... and their > response is "we are working on it". Amazing. All they do is email and they > can't even keep an SMTP service running. > > Travis > >
