Re: [AFMUG] Interesting read
Heh... I got to troubleshoot an Optaphone last summer. Absolutely nothing
wrong with the equipment, just a n connector that wasn't sealed properly by
the operators doing their own maintenance or something and took on some
water. I recall that it had been installed circa 2002 in this particular
application but some documentation on it indicated the hardware was older
than that. Having zero prior experience I was trying to find any info I
could, don't think I figured out exactly how to read rx levels.
-Steve D
On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 4:41 PM, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com
wrote:
We installed Optophones in Santa Ana and Coleman Texas!!! Damn small
world
Jaime Solorza
On Feb 21, 2015 3:13 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
I know a guy that used to modify cordless phones back in about 1990.
Garberville California. His name was Nat. He could get 5 miles out of
those things. At the time Jim Carlson was selling TVs and hot tubs. Jim
decided to make a higher powered (2 watts) UHF version called the
OptaPhone. I bought one of the first OptaPhones. Immediately told him how
it needed to be improved and then went to work for him. (that was during
one of my many breaks from the Beehive crows).
*From:* Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com
*Sent:* Saturday, February 21, 2015 11:27 AM
*To:* Animal Farm af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Interesting read
speaking of legal. I hear the Mennonites in Cuahtemoc Chih have their
own long range cordless telephone system using 200=300MHz systems from
Senao/Engenius with 100 ft. towers. they use as two way radio as well.
Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390
On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 11:03 AM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com
wrote:
My take on it is that it is a semi-off-the-shelf way to do broadband
in the 420-450 MHz band. Might have twice the foliage-penetrating
capability of 900 MHz.
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 2/21/2015 9:59 AM, Paul McCall wrote:
Jaime,
Can you put this in a more simplified explanation please?
What, exactly, can we do with this?
Jaime Solorza
On Feb 21, 2015 8:44 AM, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com
wrote:
http://www.qsl.net/n9zia/dl435/index.html
Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390
Re: [AFMUG] Interesting read
We installed Optophones in Santa Ana and Coleman Texas!!! Damn small world
Jaime Solorza
On Feb 21, 2015 3:13 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
I know a guy that used to modify cordless phones back in about 1990.
Garberville California. His name was Nat. He could get 5 miles out of
those things. At the time Jim Carlson was selling TVs and hot tubs. Jim
decided to make a higher powered (2 watts) UHF version called the
OptaPhone. I bought one of the first OptaPhones. Immediately told him how
it needed to be improved and then went to work for him. (that was during
one of my many breaks from the Beehive crows).
*From:* Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com
*Sent:* Saturday, February 21, 2015 11:27 AM
*To:* Animal Farm af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Interesting read
speaking of legal. I hear the Mennonites in Cuahtemoc Chih have their
own long range cordless telephone system using 200=300MHz systems from
Senao/Engenius with 100 ft. towers. they use as two way radio as well.
Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390
On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 11:03 AM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com wrote:
My take on it is that it is a semi-off-the-shelf way to do broadband
in the 420-450 MHz band. Might have twice the foliage-penetrating
capability of 900 MHz.
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 2/21/2015 9:59 AM, Paul McCall wrote:
Jaime,
Can you put this in a more simplified explanation please?
What, exactly, can we do with this?
Jaime Solorza
On Feb 21, 2015 8:44 AM, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com
wrote:
http://www.qsl.net/n9zia/dl435/index.html
Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390
Re: [AFMUG] Interesting read
I know a guy that used to modify cordless phones back in about 1990.
Garberville California. His name was Nat. He could get 5 miles out of those
things. At the time Jim Carlson was selling TVs and hot tubs. Jim decided to
make a higher powered (2 watts) UHF version called the OptaPhone. I bought one
of the first OptaPhones. Immediately told him how it needed to be improved and
then went to work for him. (that was during one of my many breaks from the
Beehive crows).
From: Jaime Solorza
Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2015 11:27 AM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Interesting read
speaking of legal. I hear the Mennonites in Cuahtemoc Chih have their own
long range cordless telephone system using 200=300MHz systems from
Senao/Engenius with 100 ft. towers. they use as two way radio as well.
Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390
On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 11:03 AM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com wrote:
My take on it is that it is a semi-off-the-shelf way to do broadband in the
420-450 MHz band. Might have twice the foliage-penetrating capability of 900
MHz.
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 2/21/2015 9:59 AM, Paul McCall wrote:
Jaime,
Can you put this in a more simplified explanation please?
What, exactly, can we do with this?
Jaime Solorza
On Feb 21, 2015 8:44 AM, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com wrote:
http://www.qsl.net/n9zia/dl435/index.html
Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390
Re: [AFMUG] Interesting read
My take on it is that it is a semi-off-the-shelf way to do broadband
in the 420-450 MHz band. Might have twice the foliage-penetrating
capability of 900 MHz.
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 2/21/2015 9:59 AM, Paul McCall wrote:
Jaime,
Can you put this in a more simplified explanation please?
What, exactly, can we do with this?
Jaime Solorza
On Feb 21, 2015 8:44 AM, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com
mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com wrote:
http://www.qsl.net/n9zia/dl435/index.html
Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390 tel:915-861-1390
Re: [AFMUG] Interesting read
And not legal for commercial use I'm sure...
On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 12:03 PM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com wrote:
My take on it is that it is a semi-off-the-shelf way to do broadband
in the 420-450 MHz band. Might have twice the foliage-penetrating
capability of 900 MHz.
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 2/21/2015 9:59 AM, Paul McCall wrote:
Jaime,
Can you put this in a more simplified explanation please?
What, exactly, can we do with this?
Jaime Solorza
On Feb 21, 2015 8:44 AM, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com
wrote:
http://www.qsl.net/n9zia/dl435/index.html
Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390
Re: [AFMUG] Interesting read
Well if you have a HAM license for this band you can transmit data in the 420 to 450MHz band US or 430 to 450MHz Europe at very high power levels using 5 and 10MHz channels!!! They use an approach used by many to up or down convert a frequency from say 2.4GHz down to 902-928MHz.. eg .(Shireen, Teletronics, others) using an external UDC or Ubiquiti's 3.65GHz down converted from 5GHz band internally. Old School one was Solectek taking 902.928MHz NCR WaveLAN signal into a Transverter which gave you three channels at 2.4GHz back in the 90s. Most modern RF systems use an IF frequency which is up converted to desired one. This is a source of potential interference if not properly shielded. simple example is what 100 base LAN connections do to VHF two way radio stations when they are on same tower. I was actually playing around Solecteck Transverter the other day...cleaned it up and going to see if it works. I only have some WiLAN 900 MHz radios to test so I will have to attenuate signal since I can't get into the settings of these anymore. I use them to send a signal and adjust my SAI am surprised they still work Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 10:59 AM, Paul McCall pa...@pdmnet.net wrote: Jaime, Can you put this in a more simplified explanation please? What, exactly, can we do with this? Jaime Solorza On Feb 21, 2015 8:44 AM, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.qsl.net/n9zia/dl435/index.html Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390
Re: [AFMUG] Interesting read
Would it be usable for commercial purposes? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2015 1:22 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Interesting read Well if you have a HAM license for this band you can transmit data in the 420 to 450MHz band US or 430 to 450MHz Europe at very high power levels using 5 and 10MHz channels!!! They use an approach used by many to up or down convert a frequency from say 2.4GHz down to 902-928MHz.. eg .(Shireen, Teletronics, others) using an external UDC or Ubiquiti's 3.65GHz down converted from 5GHz band internally. Old School one was Solectek taking 902.928MHz NCR WaveLAN signal into a Transverter which gave you three channels at 2.4GHz back in the 90s. Most modern RF systems use an IF frequency which is up converted to desired one. This is a source of potential interference if not properly shielded. simple example is what 100 base LAN connections do to VHF two way radio stations when they are on same tower. I was actually playing around Solecteck Transverter the other day...cleaned it up and going to see if it works. I only have some WiLAN 900 MHz radios to test so I will have to attenuate signal since I can't get into the settings of these anymore. I use them to send a signal and adjust my SAI am surprised they still work Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 10:59 AM, Paul McCall pa...@pdmnet.netmailto:pa...@pdmnet.net wrote: Jaime, Can you put this in a more simplified explanation please? What, exactly, can we do with this? Jaime Solorza On Feb 21, 2015 8:44 AM, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.commailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.qsl.net/n9zia/dl435/index.html Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390tel:915-861-1390
Re: [AFMUG] Interesting read
Well I found it interesting Jaime Solorza On Feb 21, 2015 8:44 AM, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.qsl.net/n9zia/dl435/index.html Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390
Re: [AFMUG] Interesting read
As an old time Ham Operator, it would be pretty cool to operate a data station at 420MHz using 100 watts or more! I intend to research it more. On Feb 21, 2015 10:53 AM, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com wrote: Well I found it interesting Jaime Solorza On Feb 21, 2015 8:44 AM, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.qsl.net/n9zia/dl435/index.html Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390
Re: [AFMUG] Interesting read
speaking of legal. I hear the Mennonites in Cuahtemoc Chih have their own
long range cordless telephone system using 200=300MHz systems from
Senao/Engenius with 100 ft. towers. they use as two way radio as well.
Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390
On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 11:03 AM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com wrote:
My take on it is that it is a semi-off-the-shelf way to do broadband
in the 420-450 MHz band. Might have twice the foliage-penetrating
capability of 900 MHz.
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 2/21/2015 9:59 AM, Paul McCall wrote:
Jaime,
Can you put this in a more simplified explanation please?
What, exactly, can we do with this?
Jaime Solorza
On Feb 21, 2015 8:44 AM, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com
wrote:
http://www.qsl.net/n9zia/dl435/index.html
Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390
Re: [AFMUG] Interesting read
yeppers...I think our military uses something similar in 300MHz band using Atheros based transceiver and UDC from ???. I said too much Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 10:33 AM, Philip Rankin wireless...@gmail.com wrote: As an old time Ham Operator, it would be pretty cool to operate a data station at 420MHz using 100 watts or more! I intend to research it more. On Feb 21, 2015 10:53 AM, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com wrote: Well I found it interesting Jaime Solorza On Feb 21, 2015 8:44 AM, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.qsl.net/n9zia/dl435/index.html Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390
Re: [AFMUG] Interesting read
Jaime, Can you put this in a more simplified explanation please? What, exactly, can we do with this? Jaime Solorza On Feb 21, 2015 8:44 AM, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.commailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.qsl.net/n9zia/dl435/index.html Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390tel:915-861-1390
Re: [AFMUG] Interesting read
Show me 100w amp that will work on this? Then you need the same amp on the customer side. These cards are old news On Feb 21, 2015 11:04 AM, Philip Rankin wireless...@gmail.com wrote: Paul, Absolutely not legal for any commercial purpose and can only be used by a licensed amateur radio operator, not the general public in any way!!! I doubt that even the Ham operator can even access the general Internet with it legally! But, as a Ham, and as a tinkerer, it would be really interesting to see what 100 watts at 420MHz would do through trees at say, 25 or more miles with a decent tower site. As an experiment, it might give a guy a little more insight into our commercially legal operations that we all use today. And then again, it might just be an exercise in futility! :) I may mess with it some! On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 12:25 PM, Paul McCall pa...@pdmnet.net wrote: Would it be usable for commercial purposes? *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza *Sent:* Saturday, February 21, 2015 1:22 PM *To:* Animal Farm *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Interesting read Well if you have a HAM license for this band you can transmit data in the 420 to 450MHz band US or 430 to 450MHz Europe at very high power levels using 5 and 10MHz channels!!! They use an approach used by many to up or down convert a frequency from say 2.4GHz down to 902-928MHz.. eg .(Shireen, Teletronics, others) using an external UDC or Ubiquiti's 3.65GHz down converted from 5GHz band internally. Old School one was Solectek taking 902.928MHz NCR WaveLAN signal into a Transverter which gave you three channels at 2.4GHz back in the 90s. Most modern RF systems use an IF frequency which is up converted to desired one. This is a source of potential interference if not properly shielded. simple example is what 100 base LAN connections do to VHF two way radio stations when they are on same tower. I was actually playing around Solecteck Transverter the other day...cleaned it up and going to see if it works. I only have some WiLAN 900 MHz radios to test so I will have to attenuate signal since I can't get into the settings of these anymore. I use them to send a signal and adjust my SAI am surprised they still work Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 10:59 AM, Paul McCall pa...@pdmnet.net wrote: Jaime, Can you put this in a more simplified explanation please? What, exactly, can we do with this? Jaime Solorza On Feb 21, 2015 8:44 AM, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.qsl.net/n9zia/dl435/index.html Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 -- Philip J. Rankin Wireless Telecommunications Services PO Box 24 Pittsburg, KS 66762
