Re: [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump Says He Might Block Money Transfers toMexico - WSJ
It's only fair, requiring a driver's license is a racist construct designed fully to keep the minority population immobile. Minorities cannot afford birth cirtificates, so they cannot drive to work, which is made even worse because without a job they can't afford a car. White people don't have this problem either because... Racism. Also cancer, cancer is a racist construct designed to benefit white people. Since minorities can't get a photo id because they're poor, andRacism. they are unable to buy cigarrettes, so they don't get the luxury of lung cancer. So here's all these privileged whites with lung cancer, getting to see oncologists. Oncologists are upper tier healthcare practioners. It's all a racist construct to keep the darks from getting to see upper tier practioners. Whitey is always devising ways to keep the minorities down. Everybody deserves access to all eschelons of healthcare That whole thing sounds as dumb as saying voter I'd is a racist construct to suppress the colored vote. On Apr 7, 2016 6:47 PM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: Should they be allowed to drive? *From:* Carl Peterson *Sent:* Thursday, April 07, 2016 5:01 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump Says He Might Block Money Transfers toMexico - WSJ There are areas of Baltimore where I would venture that more then 75% of 18-20 year olds have no state ID and likely have no idea how, or means, to obtain one. Should they be allowed to vote? On Apr 7, 2016, at 12:49 PM, Cameron Crum wrote: I'm curious how any functioning adult lives life without an ID? Do they drive, buy tobacco, buy alcohol, buy prescription meds, have a bank account, have a job, travel on a plane, go to school, or any number of other things that require an ID almost daily? Your hyperbole about conservatives is just as bad as if I said the only reason you don't want voter id is so all the illegals can vote to keep your liberals in power. On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 11:39 AM, Mathew Howard wrote: > Well... I'm all for keeping Mexicans from voting (as in citizens of > Mexico)... but if we're talking US citizens of Mexican descent, they > obviously have every bit as much right to vote as I do, whether I agree > with who they vote for or not... and I don't know anyone that thinks > otherwise. > > On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 11:34 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: > >> Opponents think it's to keep "Mexicans" from voting because we're all >> racist. >> >> Voting is little different with the second Amendment and they're just >> fine with that. >> >> >> >> - >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >> >> >> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >> -- >> *From: *"Mathew Howard" >> *To: *"af" >> *Sent: *Thursday, April 7, 2016 11:32:17 AM >> >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump Says He Might Block Money >> Transfers to Mexico - WSJ >> >> While I'm not familiar with Texas' requirements, a quick google tells me >> they require one of the following: >> >>- Texas driver license issued by the Texas Department of Public >>Safety (DPS) >>- Texas Election Identification Certificate issued by DPS >>- Texas personal identification card issued by DPS >>- Texas license to carry a handgun issued by DPS >>- United States military identification card containing the person’s >>photograph >>- United States citizenship certificate containing the person’s >>photograph >>- United States passport >> >> Those are all government issued forms of photo ID... I don't really see >> anything inconsistent there. >> >> here in Wisconsin, at least some student ID's are acceptable... and there >> is a process for obtaining an ID card completely free if you can't pay for >> the necessary documentation. But as far as requiring a birth certificate to >> get an ID, how else do you go about proving that you'r
Re: [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump Says He Might Block Money Transfers toMexico - WSJ
Should they be allowed to drive? From: Carl Peterson Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2016 5:01 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump Says He Might Block Money Transfers toMexico - WSJ There are areas of Baltimore where I would venture that more then 75% of 18-20 year olds have no state ID and likely have no idea how, or means, to obtain one. Should they be allowed to vote? On Apr 7, 2016, at 12:49 PM, Cameron Crum wrote: I'm curious how any functioning adult lives life without an ID? Do they drive, buy tobacco, buy alcohol, buy prescription meds, have a bank account, have a job, travel on a plane, go to school, or any number of other things that require an ID almost daily? Your hyperbole about conservatives is just as bad as if I said the only reason you don't want voter id is so all the illegals can vote to keep your liberals in power. On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 11:39 AM, Mathew Howard wrote: Well... I'm all for keeping Mexicans from voting (as in citizens of Mexico)... but if we're talking US citizens of Mexican descent, they obviously have every bit as much right to vote as I do, whether I agree with who they vote for or not... and I don't know anyone that thinks otherwise. On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 11:34 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: Opponents think it's to keep "Mexicans" from voting because we're all racist. Voting is little different with the second Amendment and they're just fine with that. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP -- From: "Mathew Howard" To: "af" Sent: Thursday, April 7, 2016 11:32:17 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump Says He Might Block Money Transfers to Mexico - WSJ While I'm not familiar with Texas' requirements, a quick google tells me they require one of the following: a.. Texas driver license issued by the Texas Department of Public Safety (DPS) b.. Texas Election Identification Certificate issued by DPS c.. Texas personal identification card issued by DPS d.. Texas license to carry a handgun issued by DPS e.. United States military identification card containing the person’s photograph f.. United States citizenship certificate containing the person’s photograph g.. United States passport Those are all government issued forms of photo ID... I don't really see anything inconsistent there. here in Wisconsin, at least some student ID's are acceptable... and there is a process for obtaining an ID card completely free if you can't pay for the necessary documentation. But as far as requiring a birth certificate to get an ID, how else do you go about proving that you're actually citizen? I really don't see anything unfair about requiring someone to prove they're a citizen to be eligible to vote. On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 11:06 AM, Sean Heskett wrote: The 42 member "freedom caucus" in the house only exists because of gerrymandering. They are in districts that are so skewed that only a super conservative "republican" could ever win. As for voter ID there is tons of evidence that absentee ballots have a lot of voter fraud but in person voting the fraud is less than .01%. All the voter ID laws are designed to suppress in person voting with an illegal "poll tax". Oh sure the ID might be "free" but the birth certificate you need to produce costs money. Also in texas you can use your hunting or fishing license but you can't use a student ID...even if the student ID was issued by a state school. Tell me exactly how those two things in this country are 1. Fair 2. Make America great?!?! -Sean On Thursday, April 7, 2016, Mike Hammett wrote: "conservative minority" HAH! Most people are in the middle and couldn't give a shit less, while indeed a minority fight for or against most things. "Progressive liberals" often forget the difference between legal and illegal immigration. If the "conservative minority" is gerrymandering districts in Illinois, they sure aren't very good at it. Both parties gerrymander and it sucks. You need an ID to do almost everything else in your life, why should the most important thing be any different? BTW: I'd like to welcome unchecked emotion to a mostly logical conversation. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP
Re: [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump Says He Might Block Money Transfers toMexico - WSJ
"What is poor? If you have hot and cold running water, electricity, color TV and a microwave you are not poor (compared to parts of the world where real poverty exists)." This "If you have hot and cold running water, electricity, color TV and a microwave you are not poor (compared to parts of the world where real poverty exists)." again "parts of the world where real poverty exists" that our poorest do not know what poverty actually is On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 2:05 PM, Jay Weekley wrote: > If they would announce themselves when they arrived then I wouldn't shoot > at them. > > Lewis Bergman wrote: > >> You never hear about the poor white people because every time someone >> tries to get to their trailer house behind all the weeds and broken cars >> they get shot at. Reporters, not wanting to be thought of as a cowardly >> group, insist that such a thing doesn't exist. >> >> On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 1:43 PM Jeff Broadwick - Lists > <mailto:jeffl...@att.net>> wrote: >> >> image1.png >> >> >> Jeff Broadwick >> ConVergence Technologies, Inc. >> 312-205-2519 Office >> 574-220-7826 Cell >> jbroadw...@converge-tech.com <mailto:jbroadw...@converge-tech.com> >> >> On Apr 7, 2016, at 2:41 PM, Chuck McCown > <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote: >> >> Fairly well distributed as far as absolute numbers go. >>> White 19,796,700 >>> Black 10,145,200 >>> Hispanic 13,214,100 >>> But by percentage: >>> 10% >>> 26% >>> 24% >>> What is poor? If you have hot and cold running water, >>> electricity, color TV and a microwave you are not poor (compared >>> to parts of the world where real poverty exists). >>> From: Jeff Broadwick - Lists >>> Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2016 12:37 PM >>> To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump Says He Might Block Money >>> Transfers toMexico - WSJ >>> I was wondering about that also, so I looked it up: >>> http://kff.org/other/state-indicator/poverty-rate-by-raceethnicity/ >>> Jeff Broadwick >>> ConVergence Technologies, Inc. >>> 312-205-2519 Office >>> 574-220-7826 Cell >>> jbroadw...@converge-tech.com <mailto:jbroadw...@converge-tech.com> >>> On Apr 7, 2016, at 2:33 PM, Cameron Crum >> <mailto:cc...@wispmon.com>> wrote: >>> That is patently false. There are far more poor white people than >>> poor black people. Now the percentage of blacks as a group might >>> be higher than the percentage of whites as a group (26% vs 10%), >>> but the facts are that there are more poor whites. In fact there >>> are almost double the amount of poor whites as poor blacks (19.7m >>> vs 10.8m). So, where are all the stories of disenfranchised white >>> poor people? >>> On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 1:10 PM, Sean Heskett >> <mailto:af...@zirkel.us>> wrote: >>> Well the "premiss" of these laws it to prevent fraud. What >>> actually happens because of the way they are written is that >>> young and poor people end up having problems voting. >>> I shouldn't have said black I should have said poor. Not all >>> black people are poor and not all poor people are black. But the >>> majority of people below the poverty line happen to be black. >>> -Sean >>> On Thursday, April 7, 2016, Jay Weekley >>> mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net>> >>> wrote: >>> Are blacks supposed to have a different ID than whites? >>> Sean Heskett wrote: >>> Also Wisconsin's voter ID law worked as intended to suppress the >>> student and black vote. >>> Yay 'Merica 🇺🇸 >>> >>> http://www.thenation.com/article/wisconsins-voter-id-law-caused-major-problems-at-the-polls-last-night/ >>> -Sean >>> On Thursday, April 7, 2016, Mathew Howard >> <mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com> <mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> While I'm not familiar with Texas' requirements, a quick google >>> tells me they require one of the following: >>> * Texas driver license issued by the Texas Department of Public >>> Safety (DPS) >>> * Texas Election Identification Certificate
Re: [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump Says He Might Block Money Transfers toMexico - WSJ
If they would announce themselves when they arrived then I wouldn't
shoot at them.
Lewis Bergman wrote:
You never hear about the poor white people because every time someone
tries to get to their trailer house behind all the weeds and broken
cars they get shot at. Reporters, not wanting to be thought of as a
cowardly group, insist that such a thing doesn't exist.
On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 1:43 PM Jeff Broadwick - Lists
mailto:jeffl...@att.net>> wrote:
image1.png
Jeff Broadwick
ConVergence Technologies, Inc.
312-205-2519 Office
574-220-7826 Cell
jbroadw...@converge-tech.com <mailto:jbroadw...@converge-tech.com>
On Apr 7, 2016, at 2:41 PM, Chuck McCown mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:
Fairly well distributed as far as absolute numbers go.
White 19,796,700
Black 10,145,200
Hispanic 13,214,100
But by percentage:
10%
26%
24%
What is poor? If you have hot and cold running water,
electricity, color TV and a microwave you are not poor (compared
to parts of the world where real poverty exists).
From: Jeff Broadwick - Lists
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2016 12:37 PM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump Says He Might Block Money
Transfers toMexico - WSJ
I was wondering about that also, so I looked it up:
http://kff.org/other/state-indicator/poverty-rate-by-raceethnicity/
Jeff Broadwick
ConVergence Technologies, Inc.
312-205-2519 Office
574-220-7826 Cell
jbroadw...@converge-tech.com <mailto:jbroadw...@converge-tech.com>
On Apr 7, 2016, at 2:33 PM, Cameron Crum mailto:cc...@wispmon.com>> wrote:
That is patently false. There are far more poor white people than
poor black people. Now the percentage of blacks as a group might
be higher than the percentage of whites as a group (26% vs 10%),
but the facts are that there are more poor whites. In fact there
are almost double the amount of poor whites as poor blacks (19.7m
vs 10.8m). So, where are all the stories of disenfranchised white
poor people?
On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 1:10 PM, Sean Heskett mailto:af...@zirkel.us>> wrote:
Well the "premiss" of these laws it to prevent fraud. What
actually happens because of the way they are written is that
young and poor people end up having problems voting.
I shouldn't have said black I should have said poor. Not all
black people are poor and not all poor people are black. But the
majority of people below the poverty line happen to be black.
-Sean
On Thursday, April 7, 2016, Jay Weekley
mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net>> wrote:
Are blacks supposed to have a different ID than whites?
Sean Heskett wrote:
Also Wisconsin's voter ID law worked as intended to suppress the
student and black vote.
Yay 'Merica 🇺🇸
http://www.thenation.com/article/wisconsins-voter-id-law-caused-major-problems-at-the-polls-last-night/
-Sean
On Thursday, April 7, 2016, Mathew Howard mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com> <mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com>> wrote:
While I'm not familiar with Texas' requirements, a quick google
tells me they require one of the following:
* Texas driver license issued by the Texas Department of Public
Safety (DPS)
* Texas Election Identification Certificate issued by DPS
* Texas personal identification card issued by DPS
* Texas license to carry a handgun issued by DPS
* United States military identification card containing the
person’s photograph
* United States citizenship certificate containing the person’s
photograph
* United States passport
Those are all government issued forms of photo ID... I don't
really see anything inconsistent there.
here in Wisconsin, at least some student ID's are acceptable...
and there is a process for obtaining an ID card completely
free if
you can't pay for the necessary documentation. But as far as
requiring a birth certificate to get an ID, how else do you go
about proving that you're actually citizen? I really don't see
anything unfair about requiring someone to prove they're a
citizen
to be eligible to vote.
On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 11:06 AM, Sean Heskett
mailto:af...@zirkel.us>
mailto:af...@zirkel.us>');>> wrote:
The 42 member "freedom caucus" in the house only exists
because of gerrymandering. They are in districts that are so
skewed that only a super conservative "republican" could ever
win.
As for voter ID there is tons of evidence that absentee
ballots have a lot of voter frau
Re: [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump Says He Might Block Money Transfers toMexico - WSJ
Fairly well distributed as far as absolute numbers go. White 19,796,700 Black 10,145,200 Hispanic 13,214,100 But by percentage: 10% 26% 24% What is poor? If you have hot and cold running water, electricity, color TV and a microwave you are not poor (compared to parts of the world where real poverty exists). From: Jeff Broadwick - Lists Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2016 12:37 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump Says He Might Block Money Transfers toMexico - WSJ I was wondering about that also, so I looked it up: http://kff.org/other/state-indicator/poverty-rate-by-raceethnicity/ Jeff Broadwick ConVergence Technologies, Inc. 312-205-2519 Office 574-220-7826 Cell jbroadw...@converge-tech.com On Apr 7, 2016, at 2:33 PM, Cameron Crum wrote: That is patently false. There are far more poor white people than poor black people. Now the percentage of blacks as a group might be higher than the percentage of whites as a group (26% vs 10%), but the facts are that there are more poor whites. In fact there are almost double the amount of poor whites as poor blacks (19.7m vs 10.8m). So, where are all the stories of disenfranchised white poor people? On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 1:10 PM, Sean Heskett wrote: Well the "premiss" of these laws it to prevent fraud. What actually happens because of the way they are written is that young and poor people end up having problems voting. I shouldn't have said black I should have said poor. Not all black people are poor and not all poor people are black. But the majority of people below the poverty line happen to be black. -Sean On Thursday, April 7, 2016, Jay Weekley wrote: Are blacks supposed to have a different ID than whites? Sean Heskett wrote: Also Wisconsin's voter ID law worked as intended to suppress the student and black vote. Yay 'Merica 🇺🇸 http://www.thenation.com/article/wisconsins-voter-id-law-caused-major-problems-at-the-polls-last-night/ -Sean On Thursday, April 7, 2016, Mathew Howard mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com>> wrote: While I'm not familiar with Texas' requirements, a quick google tells me they require one of the following: * Texas driver license issued by the Texas Department of Public Safety (DPS) * Texas Election Identification Certificate issued by DPS * Texas personal identification card issued by DPS * Texas license to carry a handgun issued by DPS * United States military identification card containing the person’s photograph * United States citizenship certificate containing the person’s photograph * United States passport Those are all government issued forms of photo ID... I don't really see anything inconsistent there. here in Wisconsin, at least some student ID's are acceptable... and there is a process for obtaining an ID card completely free if you can't pay for the necessary documentation. But as far as requiring a birth certificate to get an ID, how else do you go about proving that you're actually citizen? I really don't see anything unfair about requiring someone to prove they're a citizen to be eligible to vote. On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 11:06 AM, Sean Heskett > wrote: The 42 member "freedom caucus" in the house only exists because of gerrymandering. They are in districts that are so skewed that only a super conservative "republican" could ever win. As for voter ID there is tons of evidence that absentee ballots have a lot of voter fraud but in person voting the fraud is less than .01%. All the voter ID laws are designed to suppress in person voting with an illegal "poll tax". Oh sure the ID might be "free" but the birth certificate you need to produce costs money. Also in texas you can use your hunting or fishing license but you can't use a student ID...even if the student ID was issued by a state school. Tell me exactly how those two things in this country are 1. Fair 2. Make America great?!?! -Sean On Thursday, April 7, 2016, Mike Hammett > wrote: "conservative minority" HAH! Most people are in the middle and couldn't give a shit less, while indeed a minority fight for or against most things. "Progressive liberals" often forget the difference between legal and illegal immigration. If the "conservative minority" is gerrymandering districts in Illinois, they sure aren't very good at it. Both parties gerrymander and it sucks. You need an ID to do almost everything else in your life, why should the most important thing be
Re: [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump Says He Might Block Money Transfers toMexico - WSJ
Dave Barry wrote a column around 20 years ago that still holds true. He said if you pulled over to the side of the road with a flat tire, Republicans wouldn’t stop to help. Democrats would stop and try to help, but would end up setting your car on fire. From: Chuck McCown Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2016 12:40 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump Says He Might Block Money Transfers toMexico - WSJ Back a hunnert years or so ago, the guvmnt came to Utah, confiscated all the property of the rascally Mormon church and generally set up martial law. One of the requirements for Utah to get into the union was to ensure that there was an equal two party system here. So, Brigham Young had the local bishops draw a line down the middle of the congregation and told those on the left they were to be Democrats and those on the right Republicans. Since that time, folks have slid over on the pews such that there are very few sitting on the left... From: Bill Prince Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2016 11:33 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump Says He Might Block Money Transfers to Mexico - WSJ +1. California finally took the ability of the legislature to gerrymander away a couple years ago. As the legislature was heavily democratic, the belief was that the un-gerrymandered districts would become more balanced. Unexpected was that the new un-gerrymandered districts became more democratic. I guess the legislature wasn't very good at how they gerrymandered. They're still trying to figure out how that happened, but it's pretty clear that the new districts are much more sane in the way they are drawn. bp On 4/7/2016 9:28 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: The only people that like gerrymandering are the people in office. Gerrymandering is not partisan or ideological. Both sides do it. Both sides suck because of it. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP -- From: "Sean Heskett" mailto:af...@zirkel.us To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, April 7, 2016 11:06:31 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump Says He Might Block Money Transfers to Mexico - WSJ The 42 member "freedom caucus" in the house only exists because of gerrymandering. They are in districts that are so skewed that only a super conservative "republican" could ever win. As for voter ID there is tons of evidence that absentee ballots have a lot of voter fraud but in person voting the fraud is less than .01%. All the voter ID laws are designed to suppress in person voting with an illegal "poll tax". Oh sure the ID might be "free" but the birth certificate you need to produce costs money. Also in texas you can use your hunting or fishing license but you can't use a student ID...even if the student ID was issued by a state school. Tell me exactly how those two things in this country are 1. Fair 2. Make America great?!?! -Sean On Thursday, April 7, 2016, Mike Hammett wrote: "conservative minority" HAH! Most people are in the middle and couldn't give a shit less, while indeed a minority fight for or against most things. "Progressive liberals" often forget the difference between legal and illegal immigration. If the "conservative minority" is gerrymandering districts in Illinois, they sure aren't very good at it. Both parties gerrymander and it sucks. You need an ID to do almost everything else in your life, why should the most important thing be any different? BTW: I'd like to welcome unchecked emotion to a mostly logical conversation. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP From: "Sean Heskett" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, April 7, 2016 1:16:11 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump Says He Might Block Money Transfers to Mexico - WSJ "The Wall" is a stupid, ignorant and an expensive attempt to solve a non-issue...PERIOD! My great grandfather was an immigrant from Italy...when no one liked Italians. Italy was poor and invading north africa his motivation was the same as all the South Americans coming here now (I say South Americans because most of the illegal immigrants are forms Countries south of Mexico) He forbade my grandmother from learning Italian because at that time the Italians were looked down upon (early 1900's) Totally shameful that everyone has the "close the gate behind me" mentality. America (not 'merica) is built on immigrants. Those who have no compassion for the Syrians fleeing oppression or the Sout
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I think there would be alot less butthurt in a world where we still only wore loin cloths On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 11:03 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: > Loin cloth... > > *From:* Jaime Solorza > *Sent:* Thursday, April 07, 2016 10:03 AM > *To:* Animal Farm > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump Says He Might Block Money > Transfers toMexico - WSJ > > > Hey I wear Duluth.. no wadding > On Apr 7, 2016 9:57 AM, "Jeremy" wrote: > >> Well I have rather enjoyed the open discussion of politics as of late. I >> even enjoy watching people get their panties all wadded up. Either way, >> discussion and debate is good for the mind. >> >> On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 9:04 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: >> >>> My mind is not yet made up, do I vote or do I not... >>> >>> *From:* Glen Waldrop >>> *Sent:* Thursday, April 07, 2016 9:02 AM >>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump Says He Might Block Money >>> Transfers toMexico - WSJ >>> >>> Agreed. >>> >>> At this point all it is doing is alienating people. >>> >>> No one is changing their mind. >>> >>> I haven’t followed this one very much but most of the rest quickly turn >>> personal and cost people respect. >>> >>> There are some discussions, but mostly there are arguments. Both sides >>> are just digging in their heels. Not worth it guys. >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Erich Kaiser >>> *Sent:* Thursday, April 07, 2016 8:31 AM >>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump Says He Might Block Money >>> Transfers to Mexico - WSJ >>> >>> Maybe use POL instead of OT and I will just filter all of it to my >>> Trash. >>> >>> >>> Erich Kaiser >>> North Central Tower >>> er...@northcentraltower.com >>> Office: 630-621-4804 >>> Cell: 630-777-9291 >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 8:04 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: >>> >>>> Threaded mail clients FTW?! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> - >>>> Mike Hammett >>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >>>> >>>> >>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >>>> -- >>>> *From: *"Jason McKemie" >>>> *To: *af@afmug.com >>>> *Sent: *Thursday, April 7, 2016 8:03:14 AM >>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump Says He Might Block Money >>>> Transfers to Mexico - WSJ >>>> >>>> It's always had a lot of OT discussion, politics just happens to be a >>>> hot topic right now. >>>> >>>> On Thursday, April 7, 2016, Erich Kaiser >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I never reply to this stuff because I feel it is a personal opinion >>>>> from experiences you have had in your own life, but what the heck happened >>>>> to this list? This was the list to go to for everything technical and >>>>> now >>>>> it has turned into a political war zone.. >>>>> >>>>> This political rhetoric sucks! >>>>> >>>>> Erich Kaiser >>>>> North Central Tower >>>>> er...@northcentraltower.com >>>>> Office: 630-621-4804 >>>>> Cell: 630-777-9291 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 1:24 AM, Jason McKemie < >>>>> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Well stated. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thursday, April 7, 2016, Sean Heskett wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> "The Wall" is a stupid, ignorant and an exp
Re: [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump Says He Might Block Money Transfers toMexico - WSJ
I thought the proper term was "knickers in a twist".
bp
On 4/7/2016 9:03 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
Loin cloth...
*From:* Jaime Solorza <mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
*Sent:* Thursday, April 07, 2016 10:03 AM
*To:* Animal Farm <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump Says He Might Block Money
Transfers toMexico - WSJ
Hey I wear Duluth.. no wadding
On Apr 7, 2016 9:57 AM, "Jeremy" <mailto:jeremysmi...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Well I have rather enjoyed the open discussion of politics as of
late. I even enjoy watching people get their panties all wadded
up. Either way, discussion and debate is good for the mind.
On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 9:04 AM, Chuck McCown mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:
My mind is not yet made up, do I vote or do I not...
*From:* Glen Waldrop <mailto:gwl...@cngwireless.net>
*Sent:* Thursday, April 07, 2016 9:02 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump Says He Might Block
Money Transfers toMexico - WSJ
Agreed.
At this point all it is doing is alienating people.
No one is changing their mind.
I haven’t followed this one very much but most of the rest
quickly turn personal and cost people respect.
There are some discussions, but mostly there are arguments.
Both sides are just digging in their heels. Not worth it guys.
*From:* Erich Kaiser <mailto:er...@northcentraltower.com>
*Sent:* Thursday, April 07, 2016 8:31 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump Says He Might Block
Money Transfers to Mexico - WSJ
Maybe use POL instead of OT and I will just filter all of it
to my Trash.
Erich Kaiser
North Central Tower
er...@northcentraltower.com <mailto:er...@northcentraltower.com>
Office: 630-621-4804
Cell: 630-777-9291
On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 8:04 AM, Mike Hammett mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote:
Threaded mail clients FTW?!
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*From: *"Jason McKemie" mailto:j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com>>
*To: *af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Sent: *Thursday, April 7, 2016 8:03:14 AM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump Says He Might Block
Money Transfers to Mexico - WSJ
It's always had a lot of OT discussion, politics just
happens to be a hot topic right now.
On Thursday, April 7, 2016, Erich Kaiser
mailto:er...@northcentraltower.com>> wrote:
I never reply to this stuff because I feel it is a
personal opinion from experiences you have had in your
own life, but what the heck happened to this list?
This was the list to go to for everything technical
and now it has turned into a political war zone..
This political rhetoric sucks!
Erich Kaiser
North Central Tower
er...@northcentraltower.com
Office: 630-621-4804
Cell: 630-777-9291
On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 1:24 AM, Jason McKemie
wrote:
Well stated.
On Thursday, April 7, 2016, Sean Heskett
wrote:
"The Wall" is a stupid, ignorant and an
expensive attempt to solve a non-issue...PERIOD!
My great grandfather was an immigrant from
Italy...when no one liked Italians. Italy was
poor and invading north africa his motivation
was the same as all the South Americans coming
here now (I say South Americans because most
of the illegal immigrants are forms Countries
Re: [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump Says He Might Block Money Transfers toMexico - WSJ
Loin cloth...
From: Jaime Solorza
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2016 10:03 AM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump Says He Might Block Money Transfers
toMexico - WSJ
Hey I wear Duluth.. no wadding
On Apr 7, 2016 9:57 AM, "Jeremy" wrote:
Well I have rather enjoyed the open discussion of politics as of late. I
even enjoy watching people get their panties all wadded up. Either way,
discussion and debate is good for the mind.
On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 9:04 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
My mind is not yet made up, do I vote or do I not...
From: Glen Waldrop
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2016 9:02 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump Says He Might Block Money Transfers
toMexico - WSJ
Agreed.
At this point all it is doing is alienating people.
No one is changing their mind.
I haven’t followed this one very much but most of the rest quickly turn
personal and cost people respect.
There are some discussions, but mostly there are arguments. Both sides are
just digging in their heels. Not worth it guys.
From: Erich Kaiser
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2016 8:31 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump Says He Might Block Money Transfers to
Mexico - WSJ
Maybe use POL instead of OT and I will just filter all of it to my Trash.
Erich Kaiser
North Central Tower
er...@northcentraltower.com
Office: 630-621-4804
Cell: 630-777-9291
On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 8:04 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
Threaded mail clients FTW?!
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
Midwest Internet Exchange
The Brothers WISP
--
From: "Jason McKemie"
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Thursday, April 7, 2016 8:03:14 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump Says He Might Block Money Transfers
to Mexico - WSJ
It's always had a lot of OT discussion, politics just happens to be a hot
topic right now.
On Thursday, April 7, 2016, Erich Kaiser
wrote:
I never reply to this stuff because I feel it is a personal opinion
from experiences you have had in your own life, but what the heck happened to
this list? This was the list to go to for everything technical and now it has
turned into a political war zone..
This political rhetoric sucks!
Erich Kaiser
North Central Tower
er...@northcentraltower.com
Office: 630-621-4804
Cell: 630-777-9291
On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 1:24 AM, Jason McKemie
wrote:
Well stated.
On Thursday, April 7, 2016, Sean Heskett wrote:
"The Wall" is a stupid, ignorant and an expensive attempt to solve
a non-issue...PERIOD!
My great grandfather was an immigrant from Italy...when no one
liked Italians. Italy was poor and invading north africa his motivation was
the same as all the South Americans coming here now (I say South Americans
because most of the illegal immigrants are forms Countries south of Mexico) He
forbade my grandmother from learning Italian because at that time the Italians
were looked down upon (early 1900's)
Totally shameful that everyone has the "close the gate behind me"
mentality. America (not 'merica) is built on immigrants. Those who have no
compassion for the Syrians fleeing oppression or the South Americans migrating
north for a better life are just plain stupid in my opinion.
As a progressive liberal - yeah I said it and I'm fucking proud of
being a progressive liberal - im so sick and tired of the agenda of this
country being driven by this damn conservative minority who would rather see
their neighbor fail. And yes it is a conservative minority because they have to
gerrymander districts and enact "voter ID" laws in order to win. Social
security and Medicare/Medicade are vital to our well being and prevent the old,
sick and poor from dying on the streets.
I could go on and on but #fucktrump and #fuckcruze their policies
and rhetoric have no place in a "civilized" society.
What the happened to "love thy neighbor"?!?!? Seriously WTF?
I can't wait to see the republican convention contort itself into a
million pieces...you reap what you sow.
America is already fucking great!
Sorry for all the cursing but it really chaps my hide to see
American politicians act this poorly.
2 cents
-Sean
On Wednesday, April 6, 2016, Paul McCall wrote:
Guys, I am not a Trump fan boy, so let’s make this disclaimer up
front.
However, there is a LOT of street smarts in this guy. The
negotiation is just that… a nego
Re: [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump Says He Might Block Money Transfers toMexico - WSJ
Hey I wear Duluth.. no wadding On Apr 7, 2016 9:57 AM, "Jeremy" wrote: > Well I have rather enjoyed the open discussion of politics as of late. I > even enjoy watching people get their panties all wadded up. Either way, > discussion and debate is good for the mind. > > On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 9:04 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: > >> My mind is not yet made up, do I vote or do I not... >> >> *From:* Glen Waldrop >> *Sent:* Thursday, April 07, 2016 9:02 AM >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump Says He Might Block Money >> Transfers toMexico - WSJ >> >> Agreed. >> >> At this point all it is doing is alienating people. >> >> No one is changing their mind. >> >> I haven’t followed this one very much but most of the rest quickly turn >> personal and cost people respect. >> >> There are some discussions, but mostly there are arguments. Both sides >> are just digging in their heels. Not worth it guys. >> >> >> >> *From:* Erich Kaiser >> *Sent:* Thursday, April 07, 2016 8:31 AM >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump Says He Might Block Money >> Transfers to Mexico - WSJ >> >> Maybe use POL instead of OT and I will just filter all of it to my Trash. >> >> >> Erich Kaiser >> North Central Tower >> er...@northcentraltower.com >> Office: 630-621-4804 >> Cell: 630-777-9291 >> >> >> On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 8:04 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: >> >>> Threaded mail clients FTW?! >>> >>> >>> >>> - >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >>> >>> >>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >>> -- >>> *From: *"Jason McKemie" >>> *To: *af@afmug.com >>> *Sent: *Thursday, April 7, 2016 8:03:14 AM >>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump Says He Might Block Money >>> Transfers to Mexico - WSJ >>> >>> It's always had a lot of OT discussion, politics just happens to be a >>> hot topic right now. >>> >>> On Thursday, April 7, 2016, Erich Kaiser >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I never reply to this stuff because I feel it is a personal opinion >>>> from experiences you have had in your own life, but what the heck happened >>>> to this list? This was the list to go to for everything technical and now >>>> it has turned into a political war zone.. >>>> >>>> This political rhetoric sucks! >>>> >>>> Erich Kaiser >>>> North Central Tower >>>> er...@northcentraltower.com >>>> Office: 630-621-4804 >>>> Cell: 630-777-9291 >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 1:24 AM, Jason McKemie < >>>> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Well stated. >>>>> >>>>> On Thursday, April 7, 2016, Sean Heskett wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> "The Wall" is a stupid, ignorant and an expensive attempt to solve a >>>>>> non-issue...PERIOD! >>>>>> >>>>>> My great grandfather was an immigrant from Italy...when no one liked >>>>>> Italians. Italy was poor and invading north africa his motivation was >>>>>> the >>>>>> same as all the South Americans coming here now (I say South Americans >>>>>> because most of the illegal immigrants are forms Countries south of >>>>>> Mexico) >>>>>> He forbade my grandmother from learning Italian because at that time the >>>>>> Italians were looked down upon (early 1900's) >>>>>> >>>>>> Totally shameful that everyone has the "close the gate behi
Re: [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump Says He Might Block Money Transfers toMexico - WSJ
Well I have rather enjoyed the open discussion of politics as of late. I even enjoy watching people get their panties all wadded up. Either way, discussion and debate is good for the mind. On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 9:04 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: > My mind is not yet made up, do I vote or do I not... > > *From:* Glen Waldrop > *Sent:* Thursday, April 07, 2016 9:02 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump Says He Might Block Money > Transfers toMexico - WSJ > > Agreed. > > At this point all it is doing is alienating people. > > No one is changing their mind. > > I haven’t followed this one very much but most of the rest quickly turn > personal and cost people respect. > > There are some discussions, but mostly there are arguments. Both sides are > just digging in their heels. Not worth it guys. > > > > *From:* Erich Kaiser > *Sent:* Thursday, April 07, 2016 8:31 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump Says He Might Block Money > Transfers to Mexico - WSJ > > Maybe use POL instead of OT and I will just filter all of it to my Trash. > > > Erich Kaiser > North Central Tower > er...@northcentraltower.com > Office: 630-621-4804 > Cell: 630-777-9291 > > > On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 8:04 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: > >> Threaded mail clients FTW?! >> >> >> >> - >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >> >> >> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >> -- >> *From: *"Jason McKemie" >> *To: *af@afmug.com >> *Sent: *Thursday, April 7, 2016 8:03:14 AM >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump Says He Might Block Money >> Transfers to Mexico - WSJ >> >> It's always had a lot of OT discussion, politics just happens to be a hot >> topic right now. >> >> On Thursday, April 7, 2016, Erich Kaiser >> wrote: >> >>> I never reply to this stuff because I feel it is a personal opinion from >>> experiences you have had in your own life, but what the heck happened to >>> this list? This was the list to go to for everything technical and now it >>> has turned into a political war zone.. >>> >>> This political rhetoric sucks! >>> >>> Erich Kaiser >>> North Central Tower >>> er...@northcentraltower.com >>> Office: 630-621-4804 >>> Cell: 630-777-9291 >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 1:24 AM, Jason McKemie < >>> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Well stated. >>>> >>>> On Thursday, April 7, 2016, Sean Heskett wrote: >>>> >>>>> "The Wall" is a stupid, ignorant and an expensive attempt to solve a >>>>> non-issue...PERIOD! >>>>> >>>>> My great grandfather was an immigrant from Italy...when no one liked >>>>> Italians. Italy was poor and invading north africa his motivation was >>>>> the >>>>> same as all the South Americans coming here now (I say South Americans >>>>> because most of the illegal immigrants are forms Countries south of >>>>> Mexico) >>>>> He forbade my grandmother from learning Italian because at that time the >>>>> Italians were looked down upon (early 1900's) >>>>> >>>>> Totally shameful that everyone has the "close the gate behind me" >>>>> mentality. America (not 'merica) is built on immigrants. Those who have >>>>> no compassion for the Syrians fleeing oppression or the South Americans >>>>> migrating north for a better life are just plain stupid in my opinion. >>>>> >>>>> As a progressive liberal - yeah I said it and I'm fucking proud of >>>>> being a progressive liberal - im so sick and tired of the agenda of this >>>>> country being dri
Re: [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump Says He Might Block Money Transfers toMexico - WSJ
My mind is not yet made up, do I vote or do I not... From: Glen Waldrop Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2016 9:02 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump Says He Might Block Money Transfers toMexico - WSJ Agreed. At this point all it is doing is alienating people. No one is changing their mind. I haven’t followed this one very much but most of the rest quickly turn personal and cost people respect. There are some discussions, but mostly there are arguments. Both sides are just digging in their heels. Not worth it guys. From: Erich Kaiser Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2016 8:31 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump Says He Might Block Money Transfers to Mexico - WSJ Maybe use POL instead of OT and I will just filter all of it to my Trash. Erich Kaiser North Central Tower er...@northcentraltower.com Office: 630-621-4804 Cell: 630-777-9291 On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 8:04 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: Threaded mail clients FTW?! - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP -- From: "Jason McKemie" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, April 7, 2016 8:03:14 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump Says He Might Block Money Transfers to Mexico - WSJ It's always had a lot of OT discussion, politics just happens to be a hot topic right now. On Thursday, April 7, 2016, Erich Kaiser wrote: I never reply to this stuff because I feel it is a personal opinion from experiences you have had in your own life, but what the heck happened to this list? This was the list to go to for everything technical and now it has turned into a political war zone.. This political rhetoric sucks! Erich Kaiser North Central Tower er...@northcentraltower.com Office: 630-621-4804 Cell: 630-777-9291 On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 1:24 AM, Jason McKemie wrote: Well stated. On Thursday, April 7, 2016, Sean Heskett wrote: "The Wall" is a stupid, ignorant and an expensive attempt to solve a non-issue...PERIOD! My great grandfather was an immigrant from Italy...when no one liked Italians. Italy was poor and invading north africa his motivation was the same as all the South Americans coming here now (I say South Americans because most of the illegal immigrants are forms Countries south of Mexico) He forbade my grandmother from learning Italian because at that time the Italians were looked down upon (early 1900's) Totally shameful that everyone has the "close the gate behind me" mentality. America (not 'merica) is built on immigrants. Those who have no compassion for the Syrians fleeing oppression or the South Americans migrating north for a better life are just plain stupid in my opinion. As a progressive liberal - yeah I said it and I'm fucking proud of being a progressive liberal - im so sick and tired of the agenda of this country being driven by this damn conservative minority who would rather see their neighbor fail. And yes it is a conservative minority because they have to gerrymander districts and enact "voter ID" laws in order to win. Social security and Medicare/Medicade are vital to our well being and prevent the old, sick and poor from dying on the streets. I could go on and on but #fucktrump and #fuckcruze their policies and rhetoric have no place in a "civilized" society. What the happened to "love thy neighbor"?!?!? Seriously WTF? I can't wait to see the republican convention contort itself into a million pieces...you reap what you sow. America is already fucking great! Sorry for all the cursing but it really chaps my hide to see American politicians act this poorly. 2 cents -Sean On Wednesday, April 6, 2016, Paul McCall wrote: Guys, I am not a Trump fan boy, so let’s make this disclaimer up front. However, there is a LOT of street smarts in this guy. The negotiation is just that… a negotiation. IF he gets in, and starts this process and is bound and determined to make it happen, extremities can be discussed (or thrown out there as shots across the bow), and then adjustments get made. The point of a wall WILL be built, coming from him, gets it started, and having Mexico start to feel the pinch (in whatever way that takes) will get people’s attention. Is “the wall” THE answer to immigration challenges? Of course not. Is it helpful and one part of the total solution needed? absolutely. There IS NO border with the U.S. right now. What is there is a façade. Trump is crude and I wish he would tone down the rhetoric a bit (for everybody’s benefit, including himself), but this country needs actio
