Re: [AFMUG] Tower Top Switch Surge Protection Question
We do the Beehive APC surges. Gerard On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 4:03 PM, Gino Villarini via Af wrote: > Those putting Switches at the tower top, what kind of protection are you > using for the Ethernet ports? > > Are you using surge suppressors? > > I was thinking of using Industrial POE switches at the top, feed DC and > fiber, then short runs to the radios (epmp and 450 are poe compliant) > > Should I go straigt to the radios? > > > > Gino A. Villarini > President > Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. > www.aeronetpr.com > @aeronetpr > > >
Re: [AFMUG] Tower Top Switch Surge Protection Question
That was my first thought, but then it requieres a tower climb to change blown supressors.. Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr From: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" mailto:af@afmug.com>> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" mailto:af@afmug.com>> Date: Monday, September 29, 2014 at 4:13 PM To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" mailto:af@afmug.com>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tower Top Switch Surge Protection Question We do the Beehive APC surges. Gerard On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 4:03 PM, Gino Villarini via Af mailto:af@afmug.com>> wrote: Those putting Switches at the tower top, what kind of protection are you using for the Ethernet ports? Are you using surge suppressors? I was thinking of using Industrial POE switches at the top, feed DC and fiber, then short runs to the radios (epmp and 450 are poe compliant) Should I go straigt to the radios? Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com<http://www.aeronetpr.com> @aeronetpr
Re: [AFMUG] Tower Top Switch Surge Protection Question
That is why we haven't used surge protection for tower-top switches. If I were using more expensive switches up there I might reconsider. -Ty On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 3:15 PM, Gino Villarini via Af wrote: > That was my first thought, but then it requieres a tower climb to > change blown supressors.. > > > > Gino A. Villarini > President > Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. > www.aeronetpr.com > @aeronetpr > > > > From: "af@afmug.com" > Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" > Date: Monday, September 29, 2014 at 4:13 PM > To: "af@afmug.com" > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tower Top Switch Surge Protection Question > > We do the Beehive APC surges. > > > Gerard > > On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 4:03 PM, Gino Villarini via Af > wrote: > >> Those putting Switches at the tower top, what kind of protection are >> you using for the Ethernet ports? >> >> Are you using surge suppressors? >> >> I was thinking of using Industrial POE switches at the top, feed DC and >> fiber, then short runs to the radios (epmp and 450 are poe compliant) >> >> Should I go straigt to the radios? >> >> >> >> Gino A. Villarini >> President >> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. >> www.aeronetpr.com >> @aeronetpr >> >> >> >
Re: [AFMUG] Tower Top Switch Surge Protection Question
We use Cisco 2955T and a fiber converter. We don't use surge suppression, but we also ground the shielding as it enters the metal box (don't use plastic up top). Eric Rogers Precision Data Solutions, LLC (317) 831-3000 x200 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini via Af Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 4:04 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Tower Top Switch Surge Protection Question Those putting Switches at the tower top, what kind of protection are you using for the Ethernet ports? Are you using surge suppressors? I was thinking of using Industrial POE switches at the top, feed DC and fiber, then short runs to the radios (epmp and 450 are poe compliant) Should I go straigt to the radios? Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr
Re: [AFMUG] Tower Top Switch Surge Protection Question
How do you feed poe? Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr From: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" mailto:af@afmug.com>> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" mailto:af@afmug.com>> Date: Monday, September 29, 2014 at 4:20 PM To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" mailto:af@afmug.com>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tower Top Switch Surge Protection Question We use Cisco 2955T and a fiber converter. We don’t use surge suppression, but we also ground the shielding as it enters the metal box (don’t use plastic up top). Eric Rogers Precision Data Solutions, LLC (317) 831-3000 x200 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini via Af Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 4:04 PM To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: [AFMUG] Tower Top Switch Surge Protection Question Those putting Switches at the tower top, what kind of protection are you using for the Ethernet ports? Are you using surge suppressors? I was thinking of using Industrial POE switches at the top, feed DC and fiber, then short runs to the radios (epmp and 450 are poe compliant) Should I go straigt to the radios? Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com<http://www.aeronetpr.com> @aeronetpr
Re: [AFMUG] Tower Top Switch Surge Protection Question
The 450 is PoE compliant how? On 9/29/2014 3:03 PM, Gino Villarini via Af wrote: Those putting Switches at the tower top, what kind of protection are you using for the Ethernet ports? Are you using surge suppressors? I was thinking of using Industrial POE switches at the top, feed DC and fiber, then short runs to the radios (epmp and 450 are poe compliant) Should I go straigt to the radios? Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr
Re: [AFMUG] Tower Top Switch Surge Protection Question
If you don't have a surge suppressor then you need a tower climber to change the switch. Either way, a climb is required. Remember surge suppressors are not like fuses. In the sense that they don't "blow" with every suppression event. They can shunt some spikes to ground, save the switch port, and live to fight another day. If they do give their lives to save the switch then you need a climb. But would have likely have needed that climb anyway to replace that switch or change ports. So suppressors at the top will reduce the number of climbs although you will never know how many times the surge suppressor saved you. Maybe Chuck should put a strike counter circuit in the suppressor and change to a subscription model. You have to pay for each strike that he saved you from. PC Blaze Broadband From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini via Af Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 4:16 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tower Top Switch Surge Protection Question That was my first thought, but then it requieres a tower climb to change blown supressors.. Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr From: "af@afmug.com" Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" Date: Monday, September 29, 2014 at 4:13 PM To: "af@afmug.com" Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tower Top Switch Surge Protection Question We do the Beehive APC surges. Gerard On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 4:03 PM, Gino Villarini via Af wrote: Those putting Switches at the tower top, what kind of protection are you using for the Ethernet ports? Are you using surge suppressors? I was thinking of using Industrial POE switches at the top, feed DC and fiber, then short runs to the radios (epmp and 450 are poe compliant) Should I go straigt to the radios? Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr
Re: [AFMUG] Tower Top Switch Surge Protection Question
Ohhh. Yeah... Or perhaps just a subscription service. You buy blocks of spikes. When it is used up the surge suppressor goes into a failure mode. Send the unit back to me to get reloaded with fresh spike protection. $10 shipping and handling. 3 cents per spike protection, purchased in blocks of 1000. From: Paul Conlin via Af Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 2:59 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tower Top Switch Surge Protection Question If you don’t have a surge suppressor then you need a tower climber to change the switch. Either way, a climb is required. Remember surge suppressors are not like fuses. In the sense that they don’t “blow” with every suppression event. They can shunt some spikes to ground, save the switch port, and live to fight another day. If they do give their lives to save the switch then you need a climb. But would have likely have needed that climb anyway to replace that switch or change ports. So suppressors at the top will reduce the number of climbs although you will never know how many times the surge suppressor saved you. Maybe Chuck should put a strike counter circuit in the suppressor and change to a subscription model. You have to pay for each strike that he saved you from. PC Blaze Broadband From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini via Af Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 4:16 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tower Top Switch Surge Protection Question That was my first thought, but then it requieres a tower climb to change blown supressors.. Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr From: "af@afmug.com" Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" Date: Monday, September 29, 2014 at 4:13 PM To: "af@afmug.com" Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tower Top Switch Surge Protection Question We do the Beehive APC surges. Gerard On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 4:03 PM, Gino Villarini via Af wrote: Those putting Switches at the tower top, what kind of protection are you using for the Ethernet ports? Are you using surge suppressors? I was thinking of using Industrial POE switches at the top, feed DC and fiber, then short runs to the radios (epmp and 450 are poe compliant) Should I go straigt to the radios? Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr
Re: [AFMUG] Tower Top Switch Surge Protection Question
I was thinking more in the lines of putting a ctm1 on top with the SW, the remote resettable surge suppressors of the CTM would save lots of downtime and climbs Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr From: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" mailto:af@afmug.com>> Organization: Blaze Broadband Reply-To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" mailto:af@afmug.com>> Date: Monday, September 29, 2014 at 4:59 PM To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" mailto:af@afmug.com>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tower Top Switch Surge Protection Question If you don’t have a surge suppressor then you need a tower climber to change the switch. Either way, a climb is required. Remember surge suppressors are not like fuses. In the sense that they don’t “blow” with every suppression event. They can shunt some spikes to ground, save the switch port, and live to fight another day. If they do give their lives to save the switch then you need a climb. But would have likely have needed that climb anyway to replace that switch or change ports. So suppressors at the top will reduce the number of climbs although you will never know how many times the surge suppressor saved you. Maybe Chuck should put a strike counter circuit in the suppressor and change to a subscription model. You have to pay for each strike that he saved you from. PC Blaze Broadband From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini via Af Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 4:16 PM To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tower Top Switch Surge Protection Question That was my first thought, but then it requieres a tower climb to change blown supressors.. Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com<http://www.aeronetpr.com> @aeronetpr From: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" mailto:af@afmug.com>> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" mailto:af@afmug.com>> Date: Monday, September 29, 2014 at 4:13 PM To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" mailto:af@afmug.com>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tower Top Switch Surge Protection Question We do the Beehive APC surges. Gerard On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 4:03 PM, Gino Villarini via Af mailto:af@afmug.com>> wrote: Those putting Switches at the tower top, what kind of protection are you using for the Ethernet ports? Are you using surge suppressors? I was thinking of using Industrial POE switches at the top, feed DC and fiber, then short runs to the radios (epmp and 450 are poe compliant) Should I go straigt to the radios? Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com<http://www.aeronetpr.com> @aeronetpr
Re: [AFMUG] Tower Top Switch Surge Protection Question
Industrial switch is a good option Jaime Solorza On Sep 29, 2014 3:03 PM, "Gino Villarini via Af" wrote: > I was thinking more in the lines of putting a ctm1 on top with the SW, > the remote resettable surge suppressors of the CTM would save lots of > downtime and climbs > > > > Gino A. Villarini > President > Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. > www.aeronetpr.com > @aeronetpr > > > > From: "af@afmug.com" > Organization: Blaze Broadband > Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" > Date: Monday, September 29, 2014 at 4:59 PM > To: "af@afmug.com" > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tower Top Switch Surge Protection Question > > If you don’t have a surge suppressor then you need a tower climber to > change the switch. Either way, a climb is required. > > > > Remember surge suppressors are not like fuses. In the sense that they > don’t “blow” with every suppression event. They can shunt some spikes to > ground, save the switch port, and live to fight another day. If they do > give their lives to save the switch then you need a climb. But would have > likely have needed that climb anyway to replace that switch or change > ports. So suppressors at the top will reduce the number of climbs although > you will never know how many times the surge suppressor saved you. > > > > Maybe Chuck should put a strike counter circuit in the suppressor and > change to a subscription model. You have to pay for each strike that he > saved you from. > > > > PC > > Blaze Broadband > > > > > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] *On > Behalf Of *Gino Villarini via Af > *Sent:* Monday, September 29, 2014 4:16 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Tower Top Switch Surge Protection Question > > > > That was my first thought, but then it requieres a tower climb to change > blown supressors.. > > > > > > > > Gino A. Villarini > > President > > Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. > > www.aeronetpr.com > > @aeronetpr > > > > > > > > *From: *"af@afmug.com" > *Reply-To: *"af@afmug.com" > *Date: *Monday, September 29, 2014 at 4:13 PM > *To: *"af@afmug.com" > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Tower Top Switch Surge Protection Question > > > > We do the Beehive APC surges. > > > > > Gerard > > > > On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 4:03 PM, Gino Villarini via Af > wrote: > > Those putting Switches at the tower top, what kind of protection are you > using for the Ethernet ports? > > > > Are you using surge suppressors? > > > > I was thinking of using Industrial POE switches at the top, feed DC and > fiber, then short runs to the radios (epmp and 450 are poe compliant) > > > > Should I go straigt to the radios? > > > > > > > > Gino A. Villarini > > President > > Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. > > www.aeronetpr.com > > @aeronetpr > > > > > > >
Re: [AFMUG] Tower Top Switch Surge Protection Question
SSaaS: Surge Supression as a Service. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul Conlin via Af Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 4:59 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tower Top Switch Surge Protection Question If you don't have a surge suppressor then you need a tower climber to change the switch. Either way, a climb is required. Remember surge suppressors are not like fuses. In the sense that they don't "blow" with every suppression event. They can shunt some spikes to ground, save the switch port, and live to fight another day. If they do give their lives to save the switch then you need a climb. But would have likely have needed that climb anyway to replace that switch or change ports. So suppressors at the top will reduce the number of climbs although you will never know how many times the surge suppressor saved you. Maybe Chuck should put a strike counter circuit in the suppressor and change to a subscription model. You have to pay for each strike that he saved you from. PC Blaze Broadband From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini via Af Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 4:16 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tower Top Switch Surge Protection Question That was my first thought, but then it requieres a tower climb to change blown supressors.. Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr From: "af@afmug.com" Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" Date: Monday, September 29, 2014 at 4:13 PM To: "af@afmug.com" Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tower Top Switch Surge Protection Question We do the Beehive APC surges. Gerard On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 4:03 PM, Gino Villarini via Af wrote: Those putting Switches at the tower top, what kind of protection are you using for the Ethernet ports? Are you using surge suppressors? I was thinking of using Industrial POE switches at the top, feed DC and fiber, then short runs to the radios (epmp and 450 are poe compliant) Should I go straigt to the radios? Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr
Re: [AFMUG] Tower Top Switch Surge Protection Question
It’s in the cloud! No, wait, that’s where the surges come from. From: Shayne Lebrun via Af Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 6:12 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tower Top Switch Surge Protection Question SSaaS: Surge Supression as a Service. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul Conlin via Af Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 4:59 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tower Top Switch Surge Protection Question If you don’t have a surge suppressor then you need a tower climber to change the switch. Either way, a climb is required. Remember surge suppressors are not like fuses. In the sense that they don’t “blow” with every suppression event. They can shunt some spikes to ground, save the switch port, and live to fight another day. If they do give their lives to save the switch then you need a climb. But would have likely have needed that climb anyway to replace that switch or change ports. So suppressors at the top will reduce the number of climbs although you will never know how many times the surge suppressor saved you. Maybe Chuck should put a strike counter circuit in the suppressor and change to a subscription model. You have to pay for each strike that he saved you from. PC Blaze Broadband From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini via Af Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 4:16 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tower Top Switch Surge Protection Question That was my first thought, but then it requieres a tower climb to change blown supressors.. Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr From: "af@afmug.com" Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" Date: Monday, September 29, 2014 at 4:13 PM To: "af@afmug.com" Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tower Top Switch Surge Protection Question We do the Beehive APC surges. Gerard On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 4:03 PM, Gino Villarini via Af wrote: Those putting Switches at the tower top, what kind of protection are you using for the Ethernet ports? Are you using surge suppressors? I was thinking of using Industrial POE switches at the top, feed DC and fiber, then short runs to the radios (epmp and 450 are poe compliant) Should I go straigt to the radios? Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr
Re: [AFMUG] Tower Top Switch Surge Protection Question
You just think that's an LED on his SS board. Really, it makes the entire Cat5 an antenna that transmits statistics back to Beehive Manufacturing Central. On 9/29/2014 6:23 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote: It's in the cloud! No, wait, that's where the surges come from. *From:* Shayne Lebrun via Af <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Sent:* Monday, September 29, 2014 6:12 PM *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Tower Top Switch Surge Protection Question SSaaS: Surge Supression as a Service. *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Paul Conlin via Af *Sent:* Monday, September 29, 2014 4:59 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Tower Top Switch Surge Protection Question If you don't have a surge suppressor then you need a tower climber to change the switch. Either way, a climb is required. Remember surge suppressors are not like fuses. In the sense that they don't "blow" with every suppression event. They can shunt some spikes to ground, save the switch port, and live to fight another day. If they do give their lives to save the switch then you need a climb. But would have likely have needed that climb anyway to replace that switch or change ports. So suppressors at the top will reduce the number of climbs although you will never know how many times the surge suppressor saved you. Maybe Chuck should put a strike counter circuit in the suppressor and change to a subscription model. You have to pay for each strike that he saved you from. PC Blaze Broadband *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Gino Villarini via Af *Sent:* Monday, September 29, 2014 4:16 PM *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Tower Top Switch Surge Protection Question That was my first thought, but then it requieres a tower climb to change blown supressors.. Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com <http://www.aeronetpr.com> @aeronetpr *From: *"af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>" <mailto:af@afmug.com>> *Reply-To: *"af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>" <mailto:af@afmug.com>> *Date: *Monday, September 29, 2014 at 4:13 PM *To: *"af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>" <mailto:af@afmug.com>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Tower Top Switch Surge Protection Question We do the Beehive APC surges. Gerard On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 4:03 PM, Gino Villarini via Af <mailto:af@afmug.com>> wrote: Those putting Switches at the tower top, what kind of protection are you using for the Ethernet ports? Are you using surge suppressors? I was thinking of using Industrial POE switches at the top, feed DC and fiber, then short runs to the radios (epmp and 450 are poe compliant) Should I go straigt to the radios? Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com <http://www.aeronetpr.com> @aeronetpr
Re: [AFMUG] Tower Top Switch Surge Protection Question
And I sell your data... From: Nate Burke via Af Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 5:58 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tower Top Switch Surge Protection Question You just think that's an LED on his SS board. Really, it makes the entire Cat5 an antenna that transmits statistics back to Beehive Manufacturing Central. On 9/29/2014 6:23 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote: It’s in the cloud! No, wait, that’s where the surges come from. From: Shayne Lebrun via Af Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 6:12 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tower Top Switch Surge Protection Question SSaaS: Surge Supression as a Service. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul Conlin via Af Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 4:59 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tower Top Switch Surge Protection Question If you don’t have a surge suppressor then you need a tower climber to change the switch. Either way, a climb is required. Remember surge suppressors are not like fuses. In the sense that they don’t “blow” with every suppression event. They can shunt some spikes to ground, save the switch port, and live to fight another day. If they do give their lives to save the switch then you need a climb. But would have likely have needed that climb anyway to replace that switch or change ports. So suppressors at the top will reduce the number of climbs although you will never know how many times the surge suppressor saved you. Maybe Chuck should put a strike counter circuit in the suppressor and change to a subscription model. You have to pay for each strike that he saved you from. PC Blaze Broadband From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini via Af Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 4:16 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tower Top Switch Surge Protection Question That was my first thought, but then it requieres a tower climb to change blown supressors.. Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr From: "af@afmug.com" Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" Date: Monday, September 29, 2014 at 4:13 PM To: "af@afmug.com" Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tower Top Switch Surge Protection Question We do the Beehive APC surges. Gerard On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 4:03 PM, Gino Villarini via Af wrote: Those putting Switches at the tower top, what kind of protection are you using for the Ethernet ports? Are you using surge suppressors? I was thinking of using Industrial POE switches at the top, feed DC and fiber, then short runs to the radios (epmp and 450 are poe compliant) Should I go straigt to the radios? Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr
Re: [AFMUG] Tower Top Switch Surge Protection Question
I feel bad for the people who would pay for my data…… From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via Af Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 11:40 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tower Top Switch Surge Protection Question And I sell your data... From: Nate Burke via Af<mailto:af@afmug.com> Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 5:58 PM To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tower Top Switch Surge Protection Question You just think that's an LED on his SS board. Really, it makes the entire Cat5 an antenna that transmits statistics back to Beehive Manufacturing Central. On 9/29/2014 6:23 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote: It’s in the cloud! No, wait, that’s where the surges come from. From: Shayne Lebrun via Af<mailto:af@afmug.com> Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 6:12 PM To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tower Top Switch Surge Protection Question SSaaS: Surge Supression as a Service. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul Conlin via Af Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 4:59 PM To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tower Top Switch Surge Protection Question If you don’t have a surge suppressor then you need a tower climber to change the switch. Either way, a climb is required. Remember surge suppressors are not like fuses. In the sense that they don’t “blow” with every suppression event. They can shunt some spikes to ground, save the switch port, and live to fight another day. If they do give their lives to save the switch then you need a climb. But would have likely have needed that climb anyway to replace that switch or change ports. So suppressors at the top will reduce the number of climbs although you will never know how many times the surge suppressor saved you. Maybe Chuck should put a strike counter circuit in the suppressor and change to a subscription model. You have to pay for each strike that he saved you from. PC Blaze Broadband From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini via Af Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 4:16 PM To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tower Top Switch Surge Protection Question That was my first thought, but then it requieres a tower climb to change blown supressors.. Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com<http://www.aeronetpr.com> @aeronetpr From: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" mailto:af@afmug.com>> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" mailto:af@afmug.com>> Date: Monday, September 29, 2014 at 4:13 PM To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" mailto:af@afmug.com>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tower Top Switch Surge Protection Question We do the Beehive APC surges. Gerard On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 4:03 PM, Gino Villarini via Af mailto:af@afmug.com>> wrote: Those putting Switches at the tower top, what kind of protection are you using for the Ethernet ports? Are you using surge suppressors? I was thinking of using Industrial POE switches at the top, feed DC and fiber, then short runs to the radios (epmp and 450 are poe compliant) Should I go straigt to the radios? Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com<http://www.aeronetpr.com> @aeronetpr Total Control Panel Login<https://asp.reflexion.net/login?domain=litewire.net> To: ja...@litewire.net<https://asp.reflexion.net/address-properties?aID=242260993&domain=litewire.net> From: 0148c76ee479-3bbaba51-a600-47a6-985b-61febe64ecae-000...@amazonses.com<https://asp.reflexion.net/address-properties?aID=2653059049&domain=litewire.net> Message Score: 2 High (60): Pass My Spam Blocking Level: High Medium (75): Pass Low (90): Pass Block<https://asp.reflexion.net/FooterAction?ver=2&bl-sender-address=1&rID=242260993&aID=2653059049&domain=litewire.net> this sender / Block<https://asp.reflexion.net/FooterAction?ver=2&ent=1&bl-sender-address=1&rID=242260993&aID=2653059049&domain=litewire.net> this sender enterprise-wide Block<https://asp.reflexion.net/FooterAction?ver=2&bl-sender-domain=1&rID=242260993&aID=2653059049&domain=litewire.net> amazonses.com / Block<https://asp.reflexion.net/FooterAction?ver=2&ent=1&bl-sender-domain=1&rID=242260993&aID=2653059049&domain=litewire.net> amazonses.com enterprise-wide This message was delivered because the content filter score did not exceed your filter level.
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Yeah, they will learn that I want to know how to make my own heavy water. Hmmm, that coupled with my recent uranium purchase (no joke, I got some pure uranium off of ebay), might get me unwanted attention. From: James Howard via Af Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 10:42 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tower Top Switch Surge Protection Question I feel bad for the people who would pay for my data…… From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via Af Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 11:40 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tower Top Switch Surge Protection Question And I sell your data... From: Nate Burke via Af Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 5:58 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tower Top Switch Surge Protection Question You just think that's an LED on his SS board. Really, it makes the entire Cat5 an antenna that transmits statistics back to Beehive Manufacturing Central. On 9/29/2014 6:23 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote: It’s in the cloud! No, wait, that’s where the surges come from. From: Shayne Lebrun via Af Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 6:12 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tower Top Switch Surge Protection Question SSaaS: Surge Supression as a Service. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul Conlin via Af Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 4:59 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tower Top Switch Surge Protection Question If you don’t have a surge suppressor then you need a tower climber to change the switch. Either way, a climb is required. Remember surge suppressors are not like fuses. In the sense that they don’t “blow” with every suppression event. They can shunt some spikes to ground, save the switch port, and live to fight another day. If they do give their lives to save the switch then you need a climb. But would have likely have needed that climb anyway to replace that switch or change ports. So suppressors at the top will reduce the number of climbs although you will never know how many times the surge suppressor saved you. Maybe Chuck should put a strike counter circuit in the suppressor and change to a subscription model. You have to pay for each strike that he saved you from. PC Blaze Broadband From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini via Af Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 4:16 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tower Top Switch Surge Protection Question That was my first thought, but then it requieres a tower climb to change blown supressors.. Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr From: "af@afmug.com" Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" Date: Monday, September 29, 2014 at 4:13 PM To: "af@afmug.com" Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tower Top Switch Surge Protection Question We do the Beehive APC surges. Gerard On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 4:03 PM, Gino Villarini via Af wrote: Those putting Switches at the tower top, what kind of protection are you using for the Ethernet ports? Are you using surge suppressors? I was thinking of using Industrial POE switches at the top, feed DC and fiber, then short runs to the radios (epmp and 450 are poe compliant) Should I go straigt to the radios? Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr Total Control Panel Login To: ja...@litewire.net From: 0148c76ee479-3bbaba51-a600-47a6-985b-61febe64ecae-000...@amazonses.com Message Score: 2 High (60): Pass My Spam Blocking Level: High Medium (75): Pass Low (90): Pass Block this sender / Block this sender enterprise-wide Block amazonses.com / Block amazonses.com enterprise-wide This message was delivered because the content filter score did not exceed your filter level.
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See that’s the difference. Your data is cool. Mine would just be all the guns and ammo that I think about buying….. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via Af Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 11:46 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tower Top Switch Surge Protection Question Yeah, they will learn that I want to know how to make my own heavy water. Hmmm, that coupled with my recent uranium purchase (no joke, I got some pure uranium off of ebay), might get me unwanted attention. From: James Howard via Af<mailto:af@afmug.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 10:42 AM To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tower Top Switch Surge Protection Question I feel bad for the people who would pay for my data…… From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via Af Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 11:40 AM To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tower Top Switch Surge Protection Question And I sell your data... From: Nate Burke via Af<mailto:af@afmug.com> Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 5:58 PM To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tower Top Switch Surge Protection Question You just think that's an LED on his SS board. Really, it makes the entire Cat5 an antenna that transmits statistics back to Beehive Manufacturing Central. On 9/29/2014 6:23 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote: It’s in the cloud! No, wait, that’s where the surges come from. From: Shayne Lebrun via Af<mailto:af@afmug.com> Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 6:12 PM To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tower Top Switch Surge Protection Question SSaaS: Surge Supression as a Service. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul Conlin via Af Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 4:59 PM To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tower Top Switch Surge Protection Question If you don’t have a surge suppressor then you need a tower climber to change the switch. Either way, a climb is required. Remember surge suppressors are not like fuses. In the sense that they don’t “blow” with every suppression event. They can shunt some spikes to ground, save the switch port, and live to fight another day. If they do give their lives to save the switch then you need a climb. But would have likely have needed that climb anyway to replace that switch or change ports. So suppressors at the top will reduce the number of climbs although you will never know how many times the surge suppressor saved you. Maybe Chuck should put a strike counter circuit in the suppressor and change to a subscription model. You have to pay for each strike that he saved you from. PC Blaze Broadband From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini via Af Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 4:16 PM To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tower Top Switch Surge Protection Question That was my first thought, but then it requieres a tower climb to change blown supressors.. Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com<http://www.aeronetpr.com> @aeronetpr From: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" mailto:af@afmug.com>> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" mailto:af@afmug.com>> Date: Monday, September 29, 2014 at 4:13 PM To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" mailto:af@afmug.com>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tower Top Switch Surge Protection Question We do the Beehive APC surges. Gerard On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 4:03 PM, Gino Villarini via Af mailto:af@afmug.com>> wrote: Those putting Switches at the tower top, what kind of protection are you using for the Ethernet ports? Are you using surge suppressors? I was thinking of using Industrial POE switches at the top, feed DC and fiber, then short runs to the radios (epmp and 450 are poe compliant) Should I go straigt to the radios? Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com<http://www.aeronetpr.com> @aeronetpr Total Control Panel Login<https://asp.reflexion.net/login?domain=litewire.net> To: ja...@litewire.net<https://asp.reflexion.net/address-properties?aID=242260993&domain=litewire.net> From: 0148c76ee479-3bbaba51-a600-47a6-985b-61febe64ecae-000...@amazonses.com<https://asp.reflexion.net/address-properties?aID=2653059049&domain=litewire.net> Message Score: 2 High (60): Pass My Spam Blocking Level: High Medium (75): Pass Low (90): Pass Block<https://asp.reflexion.net/FooterAction?ver=2&bl-sender-address=1&rID=242260993&aID=2653059049&domain=litewire.net> this sender / Block<https://asp.reflexion.net/FooterAction?ver=2&ent=1&bl-sender-address=1&rID=242260993&aID=2
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As the quantity of data has increased, certainly the quality has decreased. All those selfies and texts and cat pictures. From: James Howard via Af Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 11:52 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tower Top Switch Surge Protection Question See that’s the difference. Your data is cool. Mine would just be all the guns and ammo that I think about buying….. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via Af Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 11:46 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tower Top Switch Surge Protection Question Yeah, they will learn that I want to know how to make my own heavy water. Hmmm, that coupled with my recent uranium purchase (no joke, I got some pure uranium off of ebay), might get me unwanted attention. From: James Howard via Af Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 10:42 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tower Top Switch Surge Protection Question I feel bad for the people who would pay for my data…… From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via Af Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 11:40 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tower Top Switch Surge Protection Question And I sell your data... From: Nate Burke via Af Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 5:58 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tower Top Switch Surge Protection Question You just think that's an LED on his SS board. Really, it makes the entire Cat5 an antenna that transmits statistics back to Beehive Manufacturing Central. On 9/29/2014 6:23 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote: It’s in the cloud! No, wait, that’s where the surges come from. From: Shayne Lebrun via Af Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 6:12 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tower Top Switch Surge Protection Question SSaaS: Surge Supression as a Service. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul Conlin via Af Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 4:59 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tower Top Switch Surge Protection Question If you don’t have a surge suppressor then you need a tower climber to change the switch. Either way, a climb is required. Remember surge suppressors are not like fuses. In the sense that they don’t “blow” with every suppression event. They can shunt some spikes to ground, save the switch port, and live to fight another day. If they do give their lives to save the switch then you need a climb. But would have likely have needed that climb anyway to replace that switch or change ports. So suppressors at the top will reduce the number of climbs although you will never know how many times the surge suppressor saved you. Maybe Chuck should put a strike counter circuit in the suppressor and change to a subscription model. You have to pay for each strike that he saved you from. PC Blaze Broadband From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini via Af Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 4:16 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tower Top Switch Surge Protection Question That was my first thought, but then it requieres a tower climb to change blown supressors.. Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr From: "af@afmug.com" Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" Date: Monday, September 29, 2014 at 4:13 PM To: "af@afmug.com" Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tower Top Switch Surge Protection Question We do the Beehive APC surges. Gerard On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 4:03 PM, Gino Villarini via Af wrote: Those putting Switches at the tower top, what kind of protection are you using for the Ethernet ports? Are you using surge suppressors? I was thinking of using Industrial POE switches at the top, feed DC and fiber, then short runs to the radios (epmp and 450 are poe compliant) Should I go straigt to the radios? Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr Total Control Panel Login To: ja...@litewire.net From: 0148c76ee479-3bbaba51-a600-47a6-985b-61febe64ecae-000...@amazonses.com Message Score: 2 High (60): Pass My Spam Blocking Level: High Medium (75): Pass Low (90): Pass Block this sender / Block this sender enterprise-wide Block amazonses.com /
