Re: [AFMUG] US Internet Speeds Improve But The Country Ranks Only 20thIn The World
It was related to the economic impact of broadband via Travis's comment. This report is also skewed if you really consider the source and peaks. Many 1Gbps connections are shadowing the hordes of DSL out there. This has been discussed on several sites in depth now, and the more accurate data set based on Akamai's state of the internet report that shows 0 states with an average broadband speed of greater than 25Mbps. The Q1 2016 report is a fantastic resource that breaks down speeds, usage, ipv4/v6 stats, etc. On Aug 8, 2016 12:53 PM, "Adam Moffett" wrote: > I understandbut that doesn't have any impact on average speedtest > results for the country. > > > -- Original Message -- > From: "Josh Reynolds" > To: af@afmug.com > Sent: 8/8/2016 1:31:05 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] US Internet Speeds Improve But The Country Ranks Only > 20thIn The World > > > Actually in my personal experience, access to "high speed" broadband has > created jobs in our area. It has allowed multiple corporate branch offices > and factories to come in. Internet of 250Mbps or greater was a requirement > for development of the properties. > > It's staggering the amount of large data sets and small data centers many > companies are doing in house these days. > > On Aug 7, 2016 9:35 PM, "Travis Johnson" wrote: > > EXACTLY. Everyone freaks out when Google fiber comes to their town... I > want to know what people are doing with a 1Gbps fiber connection that is > going to save the world. Or create new jobs. Or make life easier for people. > > It's all marketing BS that the general public buys into, every - single - > time. I would bet that 99% of the population doesn't need more than a 5Mbps > or 10Mbps connection, at most. > > Travis > > > > On 8/7/2016 7:58 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: > > I think we should compare amperage of average electrical services and > diameter of municipal water pipes. Oh yeah, don't forget to compare how > many cable TV channels are available in each countrywe don't want to > fall behind on any of these important demographics. > > 100 meg cable is available in my town, so people could raise the average > speed test result by simply buying more speed. Generally if we offer > multiple packages, then the overwhelming majority of people buy the > cheapest one; so maybe the US is really above average at being cheap. We > should focus on what we're good at and stop envying our neighbors' phalli > mbps. > > > The social and economic advantages of having internet service are realized > with 1 or 2 mbps. After that it's all entertainment, so why do we stress > over it? > > > > > -- Original Message -- > From: "Ken Hohhof" > To: af@afmug.com > Sent: 8/7/2016 7:51:27 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] US Internet Speeds Improve But The Country Ranks Only > 20thIn The World > > > http://www.mandatory.com/2015/02/26/which-country-has-the-bi > ggest-dicks-in-the-world/ > > *From:* Jaime Solorza > *Sent:* Sunday, August 07, 2016 6:18 PM > *To:* Animal Farm > *Subject:* [AFMUG] US Internet Speeds Improve But The Country Ranks Only > 20thIn The World > > > http://hothardware.com/news/us-internet-speeds-improve-but- > the-country-ranks-only-20th-in-the-world > > > >
Re: [AFMUG] US Internet Speeds Improve But The Country Ranks Only 20thIn The World
I understandbut that doesn't have any impact on average speedtest results for the country. -- Original Message -- From: "Josh Reynolds" To: af@afmug.com Sent: 8/8/2016 1:31:05 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] US Internet Speeds Improve But The Country Ranks Only 20thIn The World Actually in my personal experience, access to "high speed" broadband has created jobs in our area. It has allowed multiple corporate branch offices and factories to come in. Internet of 250Mbps or greater was a requirement for development of the properties. It's staggering the amount of large data sets and small data centers many companies are doing in house these days. On Aug 7, 2016 9:35 PM, "Travis Johnson" wrote: EXACTLY. Everyone freaks out when Google fiber comes to their town... I want to know what people are doing with a 1Gbps fiber connection that is going to save the world. Or create new jobs. Or make life easier for people. It's all marketing BS that the general public buys into, every - single - time. I would bet that 99% of the population doesn't need more than a 5Mbps or 10Mbps connection, at most. Travis On 8/7/2016 7:58 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: I think we should compare amperage of average electrical services and diameter of municipal water pipes. Oh yeah, don't forget to compare how many cable TV channels are available in each countrywe don't want to fall behind on any of these important demographics. 100 meg cable is available in my town, so people could raise the average speed test result by simply buying more speed. Generally if we offer multiple packages, then the overwhelming majority of people buy the cheapest one; so maybe the US is really above average at being cheap. We should focus on what we're good at and stop envying our neighbors' phalli mbps. The social and economic advantages of having internet service are realized with 1 or 2 mbps. After that it's all entertainment, so why do we stress over it? -- Original Message -- From: "Ken Hohhof" To: af@afmug.com Sent: 8/7/2016 7:51:27 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] US Internet Speeds Improve But The Country Ranks Only 20thIn The World http://www.mandatory.com/2015/02/26/which-country-has-the-biggest-dicks-in-the-world/ From:Jaime Solorza Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2016 6:18 PM To:Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] US Internet Speeds Improve But The Country Ranks Only 20thIn The World http://hothardware.com/news/us-internet-speeds-improve-but-the-country-ranks-only-20th-in-the-world
Re: [AFMUG] US Internet Speeds Improve But The Country Ranks Only 20thIn The World
On 8/8/16 10:31, Josh Reynolds wrote: Actually in my personal experience, access to "high speed" broadband has created jobs in our area. It has allowed multiple corporate branch offices and factories to come in. Internet of 250Mbps or greater was a requirement for development of the properties. Certainly it depends on the business type/goals, too. Smaller businesses that just use Office365 are going to be more accepting of 50x10 than a company with branch offices that need to be part of the big picture that makes 100x100 look slow. ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] US Internet Speeds Improve But The Country Ranks Only 20thIn The World
Actually in my personal experience, access to "high speed" broadband has created jobs in our area. It has allowed multiple corporate branch offices and factories to come in. Internet of 250Mbps or greater was a requirement for development of the properties. It's staggering the amount of large data sets and small data centers many companies are doing in house these days. On Aug 7, 2016 9:35 PM, "Travis Johnson" wrote: EXACTLY. Everyone freaks out when Google fiber comes to their town... I want to know what people are doing with a 1Gbps fiber connection that is going to save the world. Or create new jobs. Or make life easier for people. It's all marketing BS that the general public buys into, every - single - time. I would bet that 99% of the population doesn't need more than a 5Mbps or 10Mbps connection, at most. Travis On 8/7/2016 7:58 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: I think we should compare amperage of average electrical services and diameter of municipal water pipes. Oh yeah, don't forget to compare how many cable TV channels are available in each countrywe don't want to fall behind on any of these important demographics. 100 meg cable is available in my town, so people could raise the average speed test result by simply buying more speed. Generally if we offer multiple packages, then the overwhelming majority of people buy the cheapest one; so maybe the US is really above average at being cheap. We should focus on what we're good at and stop envying our neighbors' phalli mbps. The social and economic advantages of having internet service are realized with 1 or 2 mbps. After that it's all entertainment, so why do we stress over it? -- Original Message -- From: "Ken Hohhof" To: af@afmug.com Sent: 8/7/2016 7:51:27 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] US Internet Speeds Improve But The Country Ranks Only 20thIn The World http://www.mandatory.com/2015/02/26/which-country-has-the- biggest-dicks-in-the-world/ *From:* Jaime Solorza *Sent:* Sunday, August 07, 2016 6:18 PM *To:* Animal Farm *Subject:* [AFMUG] US Internet Speeds Improve But The Country Ranks Only 20thIn The World http://hothardware.com/news/us-internet-speeds-improve- but-the-country-ranks-only-20th-in-the-world
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On 8/7/16 19:35, Travis Johnson wrote: EXACTLY. Everyone freaks out when Google fiber comes to their town... I want to know what people are doing with a 1Gbps fiber connection that is going to save the world. Or create new jobs. Or make life easier for people. It's all marketing BS that the general public buys into, every - single - time. I would bet that 99% of the population doesn't need more than a 5Mbps or 10Mbps connection, at most. Everyone want's gig this and gig that. Once HE is in our facility people can have their $390 GigE and do whatever it is they need a gig for. For the majority they end up with idle looking graphs. I forget which mailing list it was on but someone was bitching about GigE since it's so slow and useless with today's hardware that can easily saturate GigE why would anyone bother selling it? ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] US Internet Speeds Improve But The Country Ranks Only 20thIn The World
Reminds me of my grandma when she was diagnosed with lung cancer. She refused to wait for anything. She habitually cut in lines and bitched about being on hold. "I don't have much time left, I can't be bothered to wait in lines". What really made her mad was when her Apple password had to be changed and needed to have a capital letter and number. Those extra keystrokes were a real drag. On 8/8/2016 9:39 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: I you have to wait more than 5 seconds on a download, you obviously need the next higher speed package. *From:* David Milholen <mailto:dmilho...@wletc.com> *Sent:* Monday, August 08, 2016 6:22 AM *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] US Internet Speeds Improve But The Country Ranks Only 20thIn The World BOOYAAA! +1 on that On 8/7/2016 9:35 PM, Travis Johnson wrote: EXACTLY. Everyone freaks out when Google fiber comes to their town... I want to know what people are doing with a 1Gbps fiber connection that is going to save the world. Or create new jobs. Or make life easier for people. It's all marketing BS that the general public buys into, every - single - time. I would bet that 99% of the population doesn't need more than a 5Mbps or 10Mbps connection, at most. Travis On 8/7/2016 7:58 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: I think we should compare amperage of average electrical services and diameter of municipal water pipes. Oh yeah, don't forget to compare how many cable TV channels are available in each countrywe don't want to fall behind on any of these important demographics. 100 meg cable is available in my town, so people could raise the average speed test result by simply buying more speed. Generally if we offer multiple packages, then the overwhelming majority of people buy the cheapest one; so maybe the US is really above average at being cheap. We should focus on what we're good at and stop envying our neighbors' phalli mbps. The social and economic advantages of having internet service are realized with 1 or 2 mbps. After that it's all entertainment, so why do we stress over it? -- Original Message -- From: "Ken Hohhof" mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> Sent: 8/7/2016 7:51:27 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] US Internet Speeds Improve But The Country Ranks Only 20thIn The World http://www.mandatory.com/2015/02/26/which-country-has-the-biggest-dicks-in-the-world/ *From:* Jaime Solorza <mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com> *Sent:* Sunday, August 07, 2016 6:18 PM *To:* Animal Farm <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Subject:* [AFMUG] US Internet Speeds Improve But The Country Ranks Only 20thIn The World http://hothardware.com/news/us-internet-speeds-improve-but-the-country-ranks-only-20th-in-the-world --
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I you have to wait more than 5 seconds on a download, you obviously need the next higher speed package. From: David Milholen Sent: Monday, August 08, 2016 6:22 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] US Internet Speeds Improve But The Country Ranks Only 20thIn The World BOOYAAA! +1 on that On 8/7/2016 9:35 PM, Travis Johnson wrote: EXACTLY. Everyone freaks out when Google fiber comes to their town... I want to know what people are doing with a 1Gbps fiber connection that is going to save the world. Or create new jobs. Or make life easier for people. It's all marketing BS that the general public buys into, every - single - time. I would bet that 99% of the population doesn't need more than a 5Mbps or 10Mbps connection, at most. Travis On 8/7/2016 7:58 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: I think we should compare amperage of average electrical services and diameter of municipal water pipes. Oh yeah, don't forget to compare how many cable TV channels are available in each countrywe don't want to fall behind on any of these important demographics. 100 meg cable is available in my town, so people could raise the average speed test result by simply buying more speed. Generally if we offer multiple packages, then the overwhelming majority of people buy the cheapest one; so maybe the US is really above average at being cheap. We should focus on what we're good at and stop envying our neighbors' phalli mbps. The social and economic advantages of having internet service are realized with 1 or 2 mbps. After that it's all entertainment, so why do we stress over it? -- Original Message -- From: "Ken Hohhof" To: af@afmug.com Sent: 8/7/2016 7:51:27 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] US Internet Speeds Improve But The Country Ranks Only 20thIn The World http://www.mandatory.com/2015/02/26/which-country-has-the-biggest-dicks-in-the-world/ From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2016 6:18 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] US Internet Speeds Improve But The Country Ranks Only 20thIn The World http://hothardware.com/news/us-internet-speeds-improve-but-the-country-ranks-only-20th-in-the-world --
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BOOYAAA! +1 on that On 8/7/2016 9:35 PM, Travis Johnson wrote: EXACTLY. Everyone freaks out when Google fiber comes to their town... I want to know what people are doing with a 1Gbps fiber connection that is going to save the world. Or create new jobs. Or make life easier for people. It's all marketing BS that the general public buys into, every - single - time. I would bet that 99% of the population doesn't need more than a 5Mbps or 10Mbps connection, at most. Travis On 8/7/2016 7:58 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: I think we should compare amperage of average electrical services and diameter of municipal water pipes. Oh yeah, don't forget to compare how many cable TV channels are available in each countrywe don't want to fall behind on any of these important demographics. 100 meg cable is available in my town, so people could raise the average speed test result by simply buying more speed. Generally if we offer multiple packages, then the overwhelming majority of people buy the cheapest one; so maybe the US is really above average at being cheap. We should focus on what we're good at and stop envying our neighbors' phalli mbps. The social and economic advantages of having internet service are realized with 1 or 2 mbps. After that it's all entertainment, so why do we stress over it? -- Original Message -- From: "Ken Hohhof" mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> Sent: 8/7/2016 7:51:27 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] US Internet Speeds Improve But The Country Ranks Only 20thIn The World http://www.mandatory.com/2015/02/26/which-country-has-the-biggest-dicks-in-the-world/ *From:* Jaime Solorza <mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com> *Sent:* Sunday, August 07, 2016 6:18 PM *To:* Animal Farm <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Subject:* [AFMUG] US Internet Speeds Improve But The Country Ranks Only 20thIn The World http://hothardware.com/news/us-internet-speeds-improve-but-the-country-ranks-only-20th-in-the-world --
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We have a few 1 Gbps customers. Most are on 30 or 50 Mbps. People do upgrade so they must believe they need more for some reason. From: Travis Johnson Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2016 8:35 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] US Internet Speeds Improve But The Country Ranks Only 20thIn The World EXACTLY. Everyone freaks out when Google fiber comes to their town... I want to know what people are doing with a 1Gbps fiber connection that is going to save the world. Or create new jobs. Or make life easier for people. It's all marketing BS that the general public buys into, every - single - time. I would bet that 99% of the population doesn't need more than a 5Mbps or 10Mbps connection, at most. Travis On 8/7/2016 7:58 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: I think we should compare amperage of average electrical services and diameter of municipal water pipes. Oh yeah, don't forget to compare how many cable TV channels are available in each countrywe don't want to fall behind on any of these important demographics. 100 meg cable is available in my town, so people could raise the average speed test result by simply buying more speed. Generally if we offer multiple packages, then the overwhelming majority of people buy the cheapest one; so maybe the US is really above average at being cheap. We should focus on what we're good at and stop envying our neighbors' phalli mbps. The social and economic advantages of having internet service are realized with 1 or 2 mbps. After that it's all entertainment, so why do we stress over it? -- Original Message -- From: "Ken Hohhof" To: af@afmug.com Sent: 8/7/2016 7:51:27 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] US Internet Speeds Improve But The Country Ranks Only 20thIn The World http://www.mandatory.com/2015/02/26/which-country-has-the-biggest-dicks-in-the-world/ From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2016 6:18 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] US Internet Speeds Improve But The Country Ranks Only 20thIn The World http://hothardware.com/news/us-internet-speeds-improve-but-the-country-ranks-only-20th-in-the-world
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Seriously. If you haven't seen Idiocracy you're in for a treat (or disappointing outlook of society). Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Aug 7, 2016 10:35 PM, "Travis Johnson" wrote: > EXACTLY. Everyone freaks out when Google fiber comes to their town... I > want to know what people are doing with a 1Gbps fiber connection that is > going to save the world. Or create new jobs. Or make life easier for people. > > It's all marketing BS that the general public buys into, every - single - > time. I would bet that 99% of the population doesn't need more than a 5Mbps > or 10Mbps connection, at most. > > Travis > > > On 8/7/2016 7:58 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: > > I think we should compare amperage of average electrical services and > diameter of municipal water pipes. Oh yeah, don't forget to compare how > many cable TV channels are available in each countrywe don't want to > fall behind on any of these important demographics. > > 100 meg cable is available in my town, so people could raise the average > speed test result by simply buying more speed. Generally if we offer > multiple packages, then the overwhelming majority of people buy the > cheapest one; so maybe the US is really above average at being cheap. We > should focus on what we're good at and stop envying our neighbors' phalli > mbps. > > > The social and economic advantages of having internet service are realized > with 1 or 2 mbps. After that it's all entertainment, so why do we stress > over it? > > > > > -- Original Message -- > From: "Ken Hohhof" > To: af@afmug.com > Sent: 8/7/2016 7:51:27 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] US Internet Speeds Improve But The Country Ranks Only > 20thIn The World > > > http://www.mandatory.com/2015/02/26/which-country-has-the- > biggest-dicks-in-the-world/ > > *From:* Jaime Solorza > *Sent:* Sunday, August 07, 2016 6:18 PM > *To:* Animal Farm > *Subject:* [AFMUG] US Internet Speeds Improve But The Country Ranks Only > 20thIn The World > > > http://hothardware.com/news/us-internet-speeds-improve- > but-the-country-ranks-only-20th-in-the-world > > >
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EXACTLY. Everyone freaks out when Google fiber comes to their town... I want to know what people are doing with a 1Gbps fiber connection that is going to save the world. Or create new jobs. Or make life easier for people. It's all marketing BS that the general public buys into, every - single - time. I would bet that 99% of the population doesn't need more than a 5Mbps or 10Mbps connection, at most. Travis On 8/7/2016 7:58 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: I think we should compare amperage of average electrical services and diameter of municipal water pipes. Oh yeah, don't forget to compare how many cable TV channels are available in each countrywe don't want to fall behind on any of these important demographics. 100 meg cable is available in my town, so people could raise the average speed test result by simply buying more speed. Generally if we offer multiple packages, then the overwhelming majority of people buy the cheapest one; so maybe the US is really above average at being cheap. We should focus on what we're good at and stop envying our neighbors' phalli mbps. The social and economic advantages of having internet service are realized with 1 or 2 mbps. After that it's all entertainment, so why do we stress over it? -- Original Message -- From: "Ken Hohhof" mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> Sent: 8/7/2016 7:51:27 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] US Internet Speeds Improve But The Country Ranks Only 20thIn The World http://www.mandatory.com/2015/02/26/which-country-has-the-biggest-dicks-in-the-world/ *From:* Jaime Solorza <mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com> *Sent:* Sunday, August 07, 2016 6:18 PM *To:* Animal Farm <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Subject:* [AFMUG] US Internet Speeds Improve But The Country Ranks Only 20thIn The World http://hothardware.com/news/us-internet-speeds-improve-but-the-country-ranks-only-20th-in-the-world
Re: [AFMUG] US Internet Speeds Improve But The Country Ranks Only 20thIn The World
I think we should compare amperage of average electrical services and diameter of municipal water pipes. Oh yeah, don't forget to compare how many cable TV channels are available in each countrywe don't want to fall behind on any of these important demographics. 100 meg cable is available in my town, so people could raise the average speed test result by simply buying more speed. Generally if we offer multiple packages, then the overwhelming majority of people buy the cheapest one; so maybe the US is really above average at being cheap. We should focus on what we're good at and stop envying our neighbors' phalli mbps. The social and economic advantages of having internet service are realized with 1 or 2 mbps. After that it's all entertainment, so why do we stress over it? -- Original Message -- From: "Ken Hohhof" To: af@afmug.com Sent: 8/7/2016 7:51:27 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] US Internet Speeds Improve But The Country Ranks Only 20thIn The World http://www.mandatory.com/2015/02/26/which-country-has-the-biggest-dicks-in-the-world/ From:Jaime Solorza Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2016 6:18 PM To:Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] US Internet Speeds Improve But The Country Ranks Only 20thIn The World http://hothardware.com/news/us-internet-speeds-improve-but-the-country-ranks-only-20th-in-the-world
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Well, one of his heroes is Nixon, who claimed he was not a crook, but undeniably was a Dick. From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2016 8:04 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] US Internet Speeds Improve But The Country Ranks Only 20thIn The World We do. TRUMP is the biggest dick. Zaz On Aug 7, 2016 5:51 PM, "Ken Hohhof" wrote: http://www.mandatory.com/2015/02/26/which-country-has-the-biggest-dicks-in-the-world/ From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2016 6:18 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] US Internet Speeds Improve But The Country Ranks Only 20thIn The World http://hothardware.com/news/us-internet-speeds-improve-but-the-country-ranks-only-20th-in-the-world
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We do. TRUMP is the biggest dick. Zaz On Aug 7, 2016 5:51 PM, "Ken Hohhof" wrote: > http://www.mandatory.com/2015/02/26/which-country-has-the- > biggest-dicks-in-the-world/ > > *From:* Jaime Solorza > *Sent:* Sunday, August 07, 2016 6:18 PM > *To:* Animal Farm > *Subject:* [AFMUG] US Internet Speeds Improve But The Country Ranks Only > 20thIn The World > > > http://hothardware.com/news/us-internet-speeds-improve- > but-the-country-ranks-only-20th-in-the-world >
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http://www.mandatory.com/2015/02/26/which-country-has-the-biggest-dicks-in-the-world/ From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2016 6:18 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] US Internet Speeds Improve But The Country Ranks Only 20thIn The World http://hothardware.com/news/us-internet-speeds-improve-but-the-country-ranks-only-20th-in-the-world