Re: [agi] Russian robots

[Stefan Reich via AGI]

He can even shoot

On Sat, 24 Aug 2019 at 09:59, Secretary of Trades 
wrote:

> The russian humanoid robot
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Az_qrXQzYOA


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Re: [agi] You can help train desktop image segmentation

[Stefan Reich via AGI]

And you KNOW how much I love neural networks. (Seems you haven't heard of
my stance yet.)

On Fri, 23 Aug 2019 at 04:37, Secretary of Trades 
wrote:

> Intros to "mixed" from MiniRem's department
>
> https://arxiv.org/pdf/1804.01452.pdf
>
> https://arxiv.org/pdf/1904.09013.pdf
>
>
> On 20.08.2019 23:06, Stefan Reich via AGI wrote:
> > Random forests are interesting... but I usually just don't have number
> > inputs. All I have is text
> >
> > On Tue, 20 Aug 2019 at 22:05, Secretary of Trades
> > mailto:costi.dumitre...@gmx.com>> wrote:
> >
> > When the turk squares the apple and inference does no better
> > there's no
> > crop, only crap...
> >
> >
> > With that... a mixed data db, even when the associations are more
> than
> > binary, might require a certain kind of ANN, modeled so that it
> > resembles a 'random forest' (growing the tree at discrete times -
> with
> > or without the Sleep States) and also a reactor when propagating the
> > inference particles. It takes a large correspondence table before
> > building or packing the model.
> >
> >
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Random_forest
> >
> >
> > On 20.08.2019 21:17, Stefan Reich via AGI wrote:
> > > lol... "crap ANNs". You convinced me there...
> > >
> > > On Tue, 20 Aug 2019 at 00:04, Secretary of Trades
> > > mailto:costi.dumitre...@gmx.com>
> >  > >> wrote:
> > > :)
> > >
> > > It's annotation (a text entry). From Amazon's "mechanical
> turk".
> > >
> > > A hilarious way of referring the current norm of primitive and
> > > supervised learning molded on crap ANNs.
> > >
> > >
> > > On 20.08.2019 00:11, Stefan Reich via AGI wrote:
> > > > I find your explanation hard to follow. What is "turking"?
> > Is this
> > > > another one of those "nothing must be manual because we are
> > > making AI"
> > > > argument? Those are really useless.
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, 19 Aug 2019 at 22:36, Secretary of Trades
> > > >  >   > >
> > >  > 
> > >  >  > > >
> > > > Hearing, but not for control. For segment cuts to be
> > > associated with
> > > > image cuts (e.g. 'red numbers').
> > > >
> > > > Also, the red numbers should not be sourced by any kind
> of
> > > turking
> > > > (such
> > > > as the color channel threshold kind of is). Instead a
> hard
> > > or soft
> > > > focusing should source the image portion of interest.
> > > >
> > > > As one would bring an apple in front of a child's eyes
> and
> > > say "Apple"
> > > > or "An apple" ...
> > > >
> > > > Such a set-up would be unsupervised enough (no text in
> the
> > > > database and
> > > > no other kind of turking/ annotation), but instead an
> > > association
> > > > between an image db (where non-OCRed text can be
> included)
> > > and a sound
> > > > cuts db (where spoken text could also be included). The
> > > learning model
> > > > can be complex enough so that a spoken phrase that
> > describes
> > > the apple
> > > > fruit to be linked (or associated) not to an image but to
> > > only a tiny
> > > > segment of the same spoken phrase (the 'apple' noun, when
> > > isolated).
> > > >
> > > > So, instead of sourcing for control, the hearing
> > module should
> > > > source to
> > > > a smart association algorithm that runs continuously
> > (so that
> > > > associations can be made at discrete times).
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 19.08.2019 15:37, Stefan Reich via AGI wrote:
> > > > > You mean voice control? Yeah I have code for that.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, 19 Aug 2019 at 05:54, Secretary of Trades
> > > > >  > 
> > >  > >
> > 
> > >  > >>
> > > >  > 
> > >  > >
> > > >  >   

[agi] The Dawn of AI (Machine Learning Tribes | Deep Learning | What Is Machine Learning)

[keghnfeem]

The Dawn of AI (Machine Learning Tribes | Deep Learning | What Is Machine 
Learning):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJrf8K_myAw
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Re: [agi] Re: ConscioIntelligent Thinkings

[keghnfeem]

 The human mind builds many temporal patterns and pick the best one. Since wet 
neurons are so 
slow. Also the human brain build many temporal patterns that will occur or 
could occur if predicted 
patterns fails. Also, the brain records everything, so when we sleep complex 
algorithms are brought 
into being. to make sense of the more complex temporal patters.  
 Allot of these altered altered realities, possible temporal patterns, are 
garbage and a algorithm 
 delete them or retrain them. BUT some are on the border line and are past to 
conscious 
mind as we sleep and is up to that person dreaming person salvage any are worth 
saving before they
deleted. 



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RE: [agi] Re: ConscioIntelligent Thinkings

[John Rose]

> Matt,
> 
> Not sure about the hard problem here but a rat would have far less
> consciousness when sleeping that is for sure 😊
> 
> Why? Think about the communication model with other objects/agents.
> 
> John

Although... I have to say that sometimes when I'm sleeping, lucid dreaming or 
whatever, somehow wandering the world in astounding mental clarity, (probably 
due to drinking too much coffee) I could argue that there is more consciousness 
there. Occupying more representation but less communication so... that darn 
sleeping rat could be doing the same.

John





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Re: [agi] Re: ConscioIntelligent Thinkings

[Nanograte Knowledge Technologies]

I don't mean to be rude, but this is just nonsense. Your system uses a 
textual-input sensor to activate a response from the reasoning engine. In this 
case, the sensor is a data field, which requires a human, or bot to populate 
it. It's seemingly not even aware of that sensor, nor of the constraints of 
that sensor.

What you're describing is not neurophysiologically accepted as consciousness at 
all. For consciousness to begin, your machine needs to at least recognize that 
it has a sensor and try and show an "understanding" of how it relates to the 
rest of its field of reality. It needs orientation.


From: immortal.discover...@gmail.com 
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Subject: Re: [agi] Re: ConscioIntelligent Thinkings

Sentiment detection, human-written detection, danger detection, there's 
infinite detections. It must recognize the input and say what entails using its 
knowledge.  The "concept" of who it speaks to is based on feeding input in and 
entailment out. That is "awareness" and "conscious".
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RE: [agi] Re: ConscioIntelligent Thinkings

[John Rose]

> -Original Message-
> From: Matt Mahoney 
> 
> So the hard problem of consciousness is solved. Rats have a thalamus which
> controls whether they are in a conscious state or asleep.
> 
> John, is that what you meant by consciousness?

Matt,

Not sure about the hard problem here but a rat would have far less 
consciousness when sleeping that is for sure 😊

Why? Think about the communication model with other objects/agents.

John




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Re: [agi] Re: ConscioIntelligent Thinkings

[johnrose]

Possible correction here, this is modeling consciousness assuming everything is 
conscious, "panpsychism" is it?

I mentioned pondering pure randomness. This might not be right it might be when 
pondering pure nothingness. Would pure nothingness have a consciousness of 
everything or pure randomness? Maximal k-Complexity verses zero. Structural 
distance from the pondering agent via comm. protocol.

BTW we know with our Venn Diagrams there is overlap with ML. As with everything 
there is overlap, not trying to draw a borderly distinction but actually 
consciousness could be described as encompassing ML.

John

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Re: [agi] Russian robots

[Manuel Korfmann]

Thx


Sending humanoid robots to space seems like a highly intelligent idea for 
testing human space travel safely.

> On 24. Aug 2019, at 09:58, Secretary of Trades  
> wrote:
> 
> The russian humanoid robot
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Az_qrXQzYOA

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[agi] Russian robots

[Secretary of Trades]

The russian humanoid robot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Az_qrXQzYOA

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Re: [agi] Re: ConscioIntelligent Thinkings

[immortal . discoveries]

Sentiment detection, human-written detection, danger detection, there's 
infinite detections. It must recognize the input and say what entails using its 
knowledge.  The "concept" of who it speaks to is based on feeding input in and 
entailment out. That is "awareness" and "conscious".
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