Re: [agi] Fwd: Women Techmakers list: "moinblockchain 19 - for digital equality award ceremony city hall sign up today!"

[Nanograte Knowledge Technologies]

More pertinently Stefan, why in the world are you hanging out on the women's 
list, only to end up insulting women as being idiots? No wonder your bank 
balance is where it's at. You might want to consider a course in Social 
Investing101 . 😉


From: Stefan Reich via AGI 
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What will you contribute?

On Tue, 8 Oct 2019 at 00:02, Manuel Korfmann 
mailto:m...@korfmann.info>> wrote:
When will you unblock me Stefan?

On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 11:55 PM Stefan Reich via AGI 
mailto:agi@agi.topicbox.com>> wrote:
I am under the impression that some local tech events in my area are completely 
evil. 230 €? City hall reception? What is it, an idiot parade? Besides, 
Blockchain is simply useless. Oh, and "personal finance" is a topic? Yeah, 
let's talk about it. My personal finance is about a few thousands in the minus.

-- Forwarded message -
From: Anja Schumann (Meetup) 
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Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2019 at 12:06
Subject: Women Techmakers list: "moinblockchain 19 - for digital equality award 
ceremony city hall sign up today!"
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[Meetup]

Anja 
Schumann
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Techmakers
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moinblockchain 19 - for digital equality award ceremony city hall sign up today!

Hi all,

our annual conference is happening in less then two weeks on October 18th.

Learn about Blockchain use cases, smart contracts, legal impacts, user 
experience challenges but also about personal finance. Meet experts from bigger 
players like Otto, IBM, Hengeler Mueller but also from Blockchain Companies 
like ConsenSys, IOTA, Parity Technologies and others.

With the conference we are creating an event where we don't need to talk about 
diversity but where you can experience it. So please all creatures welcome and 
be part of moinblockchain 19!

Get your tickets today if you also want to be part of the city hall reception 
after the conference where the city of Hamburg is awarding its digital equality 
award to initiatives in Hamburg (hopefully we will win :). The deadline for 
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Re: [agi] Fwd: Women Techmakers list: "moinblockchain 19 - for digital equality award ceremony city hall sign up today!"

[Stefan Reich via AGI]

What will you contribute?

On Tue, 8 Oct 2019 at 00:02, Manuel Korfmann  wrote:

> When will you unblock me Stefan?
>
> On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 11:55 PM Stefan Reich via AGI 
> wrote:
>
>> I am under the impression that some local tech events in my area are
>> completely evil. 230 €? City hall reception? What is it, an idiot parade?
>> Besides, Blockchain is simply useless. Oh, and "personal finance" is a
>> topic? Yeah, let's talk about it. My personal finance is about a few
>> thousands in the minus.
>>
>> -- Forwarded message -
>> From: Anja Schumann (Meetup) <
>> women-techmakers-hamburg-annou...@meetup.com>
>> Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2019 at 12:06
>> Subject: Women Techmakers list: "moinblockchain 19 - for digital equality
>> award ceremony city hall sign up today!"
>> To: 
>>
>>
>> [image: Meetup]
>> 
>>
>> 
>> Anja Schumann
>> 
>> (Organizer) sent a message to the Women Techmakers
>> 
>> mailing list
>> moinblockchain 19 - for digital equality award ceremony city hall sign up
>> today!
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> our annual conference is happening in less then two weeks on October 18th.
>>
>> Learn about Blockchain use cases, smart contracts, legal impacts, user
>> experience challenges but also about personal finance. Meet experts from
>> bigger players like Otto, IBM, Hengeler Mueller but also from Blockchain
>> Companies like ConsenSys, IOTA, Parity Technologies and others.
>>
>> With the conference we are creating an event where we don't need to talk
>> about diversity but where you can experience it. So please all creatures
>> welcome and be part of moinblockchain 19!
>>
>> Get your tickets today if you also want to be part of the city hall
>> reception after the conference where the city of Hamburg is awarding its
>> digital equality award to initiatives in Hamburg (hopefully we will win :).
>> The deadline for this event is approaching in two days.
>>
>> See you soon at moinblockchain 19! 👉
>> https://moinworld.de/moinblockchain-blockchain-conference/
>> 
>> 
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>> Anja and the moinworld team!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Send Anja Schumann a message
>> 

Re: [agi] Fwd: Women Techmakers list: "moinblockchain 19 - for digital equality award ceremony city hall sign up today!"

[Manuel Korfmann]

When will you unblock me Stefan?

On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 11:55 PM Stefan Reich via AGI 
wrote:

> I am under the impression that some local tech events in my area are
> completely evil. 230 €? City hall reception? What is it, an idiot parade?
> Besides, Blockchain is simply useless. Oh, and "personal finance" is a
> topic? Yeah, let's talk about it. My personal finance is about a few
> thousands in the minus.
>
> -- Forwarded message -
> From: Anja Schumann (Meetup)  Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2019 at 12:06
> Subject: Women Techmakers list: "moinblockchain 19 - for digital equality
> award ceremony city hall sign up today!"
> To: 
>
>
> [image: Meetup]
> 
>
> 
> Anja Schumann
> 
> (Organizer) sent a message to the Women Techmakers
> 
> mailing list
> moinblockchain 19 - for digital equality award ceremony city hall sign up
> today!
>
> Hi all,
>
> our annual conference is happening in less then two weeks on October 18th.
>
> Learn about Blockchain use cases, smart contracts, legal impacts, user
> experience challenges but also about personal finance. Meet experts from
> bigger players like Otto, IBM, Hengeler Mueller but also from Blockchain
> Companies like ConsenSys, IOTA, Parity Technologies and others.
>
> With the conference we are creating an event where we don't need to talk
> about diversity but where you can experience it. So please all creatures
> welcome and be part of moinblockchain 19!
>
> Get your tickets today if you also want to be part of the city hall
> reception after the conference where the city of Hamburg is awarding its
> digital equality award to initiatives in Hamburg (hopefully we will win :).
> The deadline for this event is approaching in two days.
>
> See you soon at moinblockchain 19! 👉
> https://moinworld.de/moinblockchain-blockchain-conference/
> 
> 
>
>
> 
>
> Anja and the moinworld team!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Send Anja Schumann a message
> 

[agi] Fwd: Women Techmakers list: "moinblockchain 19 - for digital equality award ceremony city hall sign up today!"

[Stefan Reich via AGI]

I am under the impression that some local tech events in my area are
completely evil. 230 €? City hall reception? What is it, an idiot parade?
Besides, Blockchain is simply useless. Oh, and "personal finance" is a
topic? Yeah, let's talk about it. My personal finance is about a few
thousands in the minus.

-- Forwarded message -
From: Anja Schumann (Meetup) 
Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2019 at 12:06
Subject: Women Techmakers list: "moinblockchain 19 - for digital equality
award ceremony city hall sign up today!"
To: 


[image: Meetup]


Anja Schumann

(Organizer) sent a message to the Women Techmakers

mailing list
moinblockchain 19 - for digital equality award ceremony city hall sign up
today!

Hi all,

our annual conference is happening in less then two weeks on October 18th.

Learn about Blockchain use cases, smart contracts, legal impacts, user
experience challenges but also about personal finance. Meet experts from
bigger players like Otto, IBM, Hengeler Mueller but also from Blockchain
Companies like ConsenSys, IOTA, Parity Technologies and others.

With the conference we are creating an event where we don't need to talk
about diversity but where you can experience it. So please all creatures
welcome and be part of moinblockchain 19!

Get your tickets today if you also want to be part of the city hall
reception after the conference where the city of Hamburg is awarding its
digital equality award to initiatives in Hamburg (hopefully we will win :).
The deadline for this event is approaching in two days.

See you soon at moinblockchain 19! 👉
https://moinworld.de/moinblockchain-blockchain-conference/





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Re: [agi] The Job market.

[Matt Mahoney]

The Kolmogorov complexity language dependent constant for x86, C, or
English is large, on the order of 10^6 to 10^9 bits. That's why I suggested
an enumeration of all possible universes. Computing power doesn't matter.
Occam's Razor favors slower programs over faster because of size-speed
trade-offs. It favors bigger universes over smaller (the big bang is a
black hole in a larger universe) because it takes more bits to specify the
location of a smaller universe regardless of the language.

It also favors a multiverse over a single universe, regardless of language.
If the masses of the proton and neutron were slightly different, then stars
would be dead or supernovas wouldn't produce the right elements to support
life. If the mass of the election were different, then carbon wouldn't
produce complex molecules at temperatures where water is liquid. The
simplest explanation for why they have the masses they do is that all
possible universes exist and we must observe one where life can evolve.

On Sun, Oct 6, 2019, 10:38 PM Ben Goertzel  wrote:

> ***
> But suppose you enumerated all possible universes and ran the n'th one
> for n steps. Ours would be n ~ 10^120 steps, or about 400 bits.
> ***
>
> Perhaps so, but on a current standard computer it would take more than
> 400 bits to code the universe-simulator ;)
>
> So the 400 bits figure presumes the computer decoding those bits has a
> fairly sophisticated general-purpose universe-simulator running on it,
> I'd say...
>
> Specifying the constants in the standard model only gives you an
> approximation of our universe in the context of a computer with a
> differential-equations solver or similar on it, which probably also is
> longer than 400 bits to code on current computer architectures...
>
> Just sayin'...
>
> I agree with your conceptual point though, so mostly I'm just
> nitpicking ... but also  it's kind of interesting to me (as a human
> with some trivial and silly interests ;) whether it's 400, 4000,
> 40 or 400 bits to really simulated our universe on a
> standard-issue PC with a lot of auxiliary memory...
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 6, 2019 at 7:32 PM TimTyler  wrote:
> >
> > On 2019-10-06 06:05:AM, Matt Mahoney wrote:
> > > On Sun, Oct 6, 2019, 2:59 AM Ben Goertzel  wrote or
> quoted Matt as writing:
> >> > It probably takes a few hundred bits to describe the laws of physics.
> >> > > Hmm, that seems very few, just taking a look at the Standard Model
> and
> >> > > General Relativity right now...
> >
> >
> > Yudkowsky and Wolfram seem to think so. I don't know their exact
> reasoning, but it probably takes 400 bits to describe the 40 or so free
> parameters in string theory from which all the fundamental physical
> constants and properties of the fundamental particles could be derived.
> >
> >
> > Those guys don't know either. We don't really know what the laws of
> physics are yet.
> >
> > It seems a bit premature to speculate about their complexity. --
> >
> > __
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> time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn,
> burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders
> across the stars.” -- Jack Kerouac

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Re: [agi] The Job market.

[James Bowery]

A formulary to calculate all ionization levels of all elements that I compiled 
from Mills's book 

 starting with the energy balance equation.  It takes some work to do this, so 
it's not at all surprising that a critic who can't distinguish between 
"throwing the baby out with the bathwater" and a unifying covering theory would 
find it daunting.

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Re: [agi] The Job market.

[James Bowery]

On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 10:57 AM Matt Mahoney 
wrote:

> The reviews of Randall Mills's book are not so charatable.
> https://sjbyrnes.com/cf/grand-unified-theory-of-classical-physics/
>

Better still, note that the American Physical Society managed the
unprecedented(?)

feat of getting the US Patent Office to rescind an already issue letter of
patent issued to Mills by throwing a barrage of assertions at it, including
that it fell under "cold fusion" and "perpetual motion".  Individually they
would have fallen to the floor but collectively, despite being clearly
false, they stuck and the resulting stigma provided cover that the court
upheld.  You'll find people piling on to this monkey beat by citing the
court case's mention of "perpetual motion" and claiming that Mills's theory
post-dated some apocryphal charlatanism by Mills in which Mills was getting
investors for a perpetual motion machine.  In psychological warfare, one
can see this tactic at inciting mob psychology at work in the old media's
aspersions about President Trump.

It should be noted that there is no justification for denying a patent,
already issued or not, on the basis that it "violates consensus scientific
theory."  The gating requirements are merely that it be reduced to
practice, novel (creative spark) and useful.

Oh, and I almost forgot: The Nobel Prize winning physicist and future head
of Obama's DoE called Mills a fraud:

"it's extremely unlikely that this is real, and I feel sorry for the
funders, the people who are
backing this."
Quote from Steven Chu, Nobel Prize-winning physicist at Stanford University
Former Secretary of Energy (January 20, 1999 – April 22 2013)
Quoted September 1999
Extracted from Dow Jones NewsWires - October 1999
http://www.rexresearch.com/millshyd/millshyd.htm#dow

The reason this is calling Mills a fraud is that the levels of energy gains
his company was reporting were large enough that they would be easily
distinguishable from measurement error and multiple people in the company
had attested to those levels.  No wiggle room for, "But I did my *best* to
control for those errors, judge.  HONEST MISTAKE!!!"

At present probably most of the crew at BrLP should be summarily thrown in
the slammer for criminal fraud, based on the levels of power he's reporting
,
if the device doesn't actually work.  Any physicist from Princeton could
take a long lunch, take the 15 minute drive to BrLP's lab, walk in with
little more than an IR meter while a student watches the external electric
meter as the first, low risk/cost ratio, in a series of investigatory
steps.  A founder of the DoE's Energy Information Administration (the same
guy who funded the revival of connectionism in the '80s) and I were putting
together a more extensive test of Mills's honesty a few years ago.  He
wanted to get one of the most skeptical engineers he knew (Keith Henson) to
come up with an estimate of how much money it would cost to pay a visit to
BrLP's labs and exclude all the extraordinary lengths to which a fraud
artist taking in $100M in investments might go.  I asked Mills if we could
have permission to do such a skeptical investigation and he said yes
provided we signed an NDA.  Keith came back with an estimate of $100k for
the test -- an amount we did not have handy.

This point of that soliloquy is that a fraudulent Mills, even covered by an
NDA, would be subject to prison because fraud vitiates all agreements and
there can be no middle ground here.  He's not mistaken about his claims.
 He's either real or he's a fraud.


>
> I could decide for myself but I'm not going to pay $1187.
> https://www.amazon.com/Grand-Unified-Theory-Classical-Physics/dp/0963517147
>

It's free at this download.

However, since the credibility of Mills is the present issue -- not his
theory -- I would direct any immediate interest in his theory to the paper
by a respected MIT physicist upon which he based his theory:

On the radiation from point charges by H. A. Haus


Mills was Haus's student and claims that upon showing Haus how Mills
covered QM with radiationless extended charge current configurations of
point charges comprising the electron, Haus agreed with the math but was
receiving a lot of acolytes for that paper and didn't want to be the focus
of what, obviously, emerged with Mills's publication of the GUToCP.


> Mills is a medical doctor, not a physicist.
>

https://www.nature.com/articles/336787a0


> I admit I have my own theories about physics but lack the background to
> prove them. For example, I think that an observer falling into a black hole
> and nearing the event horizon would see an expanding and acce

Re: [agi] The Job market.

[Matt Mahoney]

The reviews of Randall Mills's book are not so charatable.
https://sjbyrnes.com/cf/grand-unified-theory-of-classical-physics/

I could decide for myself but I'm not going to pay $1187.
https://www.amazon.com/Grand-Unified-Theory-Classical-Physics/dp/0963517147

Mills is a medical doctor, not a physicist. I admit I have my own theories
about physics but lack the background to prove them. For example, I think
that an observer falling into a black hole and nearing the event horizon
would see an expanding and accelerating universe. The event horizon would
appear to wrap around due to gravitational lensing. We already know that
objects near the horizon would appear to slow down and be red shifted. It
would explain both dark energy and inflation without the need for any new
physics. Dark energy is just gravity. The nonuniformity in the cosmic
background radiation is due to the big bang starting from a small but not
pointlike mass as it collapsed from an even larger universe. My motivation
is that Einstein derived general relativity based on the local continuity
of space-time, which would prohibit a sharp event horizon or a big bang
singularity.

The theory could be proven by finding the "hole" in the event horizon,
possibly the CMB cold spot behind the Eridanus void, the biggest empty
space in the universe. But I lack the math skills to solve this "inside
out" black hole model of the universe from Einstein's equations for general
relativity.

On Mon, Oct 7, 2019, 12:02 AM James Bowery  wrote:

>
>
> On Sun, Oct 6, 2019 at 11:29 AM James Bowery  wrote:
>
>> ...
>> If one takes Randell Mills's "Grand Unified Theory of Classical Physics"
>> seriously (and I do) he has, even *without* the above ansatz, has
>> calculated an amazing array of physical properties
>>  from
>> "fundamental constants only" and IIRC the number of such constants is
>> smaller than in the Standard Model.  I'll try to look up what that reduced
>> set of constants is and provide it along with a formulary deriving other
>> constants of the Standard Model.
>>
>
> That set of constants is (according to Page 41, of GUToCP Volume 1 (2018
> edition) , Foundations):
>
>- G
>- The spin of the electron neutrino.
>- The fundamental constants that comprise the fine structure constant:
>   - *µ0*
>   - *e *(charge of an electron)
>   - *c*
>   - *h*
>
> However, the competition is not string theory nor the Standard Model per
> se, but QED+GR because GUToCP purports to cover those theories and
> calculate their parameters from the above parameters to the formulas given
> in the book, some of which are old standards, such as   ε0 = 1/(*c*²
> *µ0).*
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[agi] Speedrun to AI is official

[Stefan Reich via AGI]

Today: Backtracking, part 1 (we add a while statement to our language and
prepare for backtracking)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLk_volfMR8

I will crank out these videos until a great AI is made. Catch me live:
https://twitch.tv/stefanreich

Programs made today: http://code.botcompany.de/1025600
,
http://code.botcompany.de/1025605
,
http://code.botcompany.de/1025606

Cheers,
Stefan

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Re: [agi] The Job market.

[John Rose]

On Sunday, October 06, 2019, at 12:12 PM, Matt Mahoney wrote:
> Do numbers exist? It's a philosophical question. Philosophy is arguing about 
> the meanings of words. What do you mean by "exist"?
> 

That's an interesting question.  There is a max digits of Pi possibly 
calculable within this universe. Then there are the max digits calculated 
somewhere on some alien planet having the most powerful computer. But a full 
infinite Pi cannot ever be represented; AFAIK maybe it can multi-versly or 
something?

What matters is the symbol Pi is passed around among conscious agents. You 
could read it from a book but a conscious agent originally wrote it.

Pi can be re-represented with Zenil's entropy-deceiving graphs since it can be 
mathematically described in so many ways. And the symbol represents 
calculations to be done and already done (but never the full string length). 
It’s an activator in a distributed system of human brains, it has symbol 
negentropy and graphtropy. What a perfect candidate for further research...
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