Re: [agi] How AI will kill us

[Alan Grimes via AGI]

John Rose wrote:


In a nice way, not using gas or guns or bombs. It was a trial balloon 
developed over several decades and released to see how it would go. 
The shot that is, covid’s purpose was to facilitate the shots. It went 
quite well with little resistance. It took out 12 to 17 million lives 
according to conservative ACM estimates. I’ve seen other estimates 
much higher with the vax injuries in the 100’s of millions, not 
mentioning natality rates, disabilities and the yet to be made dead.


I'm hearing numbers up to 20 million...

It's been said that the collective IQ of humanity rises with every 
vaccine death... I'm still waiting for it to reach room temperature...


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Re: [agi] How AI will kill us

[James Bowery]

You seem to believe you can predict what the AGI known as "The Global
Economy" is going to do with its erstwhile individual human components.
What makes you think it will "give us everything we want" when it has
already demonstrated for over a half century that it is perfectly willing
to violate the *consent* of *more than a supermajority* of the US citizenry
as determined by Gallup polls on immigration policy over that entire
period?  What would it take to convince you that maybe it isn't just "not
everyone agrees" that this AGI is "friendly"?  Sniper rifles taking out the
substations in all of the cities above 1M population?  Would that do it?

On Mon, Dec 4, 2023 at 5:52 PM Matt Mahoney  wrote:

> I agree that not everyone agrees that the world is headed in the right
> direction. We are likely headed for a world government without borders, the
> abolition of prisons, and a ban on non synthetic meat. Those of us old
> enough to remember a time before the Internet (like me) are the ones most
> likely to oppose such changes, but it wont matter because we won't live
> long enough to see it happen. Technology will make these changes practical
> and painless. And we will be absolutely dependent on it.
>



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> On Mon, Dec 4, 2023, 2:58 PM James Bowery  wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 3, 2023 at 9:01 AM Matt Mahoney 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> ...All the long term trends we care about are going in the direction we
>>> want
>>>
>>
>>  What do you mean "all", we?
>>
>> See, this is the thing people don't get about human society:
>>
>> People don't have the same values.  These broadly overlapping categories
>> that we supposedly all agree on are not only cherry-picked from the much
>> broader range of values that are very much culturally if not individually
>> differentiated.  And if you are a guy like Pinker, you are going to
>> cherry-pick them to suit yourself and those with whom you share what is
>> properly called a "purpose in life".
>>
>> Far too little attention is paid to the fact that "consent" is routinely
>> and massively and sometimes viciously violated by this "we".
>>
>>
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Re: [agi] How AI will kill us

[Matt Mahoney]

I agree that not everyone agrees that the world is headed in the right
direction. We are likely headed for a world government without borders, the
abolition of prisons, and a ban on non synthetic meat. Those of us old
enough to remember a time before the Internet (like me) are the ones most
likely to oppose such changes, but it wont matter because we won't live
long enough to see it happen. Technology will make these changes practical
and painless. And we will be absolutely dependent on it.

On Mon, Dec 4, 2023, 2:58 PM James Bowery  wrote:

>
>
> On Sun, Dec 3, 2023 at 9:01 AM Matt Mahoney 
> wrote:
>
>> ...All the long term trends we care about are going in the direction we
>> want
>>
>
>  What do you mean "all", we?
>
> See, this is the thing people don't get about human society:
>
> People don't have the same values.  These broadly overlapping categories
> that we supposedly all agree on are not only cherry-picked from the much
> broader range of values that are very much culturally if not individually
> differentiated.  And if you are a guy like Pinker, you are going to
> cherry-pick them to suit yourself and those with whom you share what is
> properly called a "purpose in life".
>
> Far too little attention is paid to the fact that "consent" is routinely
> and massively and sometimes viciously violated by this "we".
>
>
> *Artificial General Intelligence List *
> / AGI / see discussions  +
> participants  +
> delivery options 
> Permalink
> 
>

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Re: [agi] How AI will kill us

[James Bowery]

On Sun, Dec 3, 2023 at 9:01 AM Matt Mahoney  wrote:

> ...All the long term trends we care about are going in the direction we
> want
>

 What do you mean "all", we?

See, this is the thing people don't get about human society:

People don't have the same values.  These broadly overlapping categories
that we supposedly all agree on are not only cherry-picked from the much
broader range of values that are very much culturally if not individually
differentiated.  And if you are a guy like Pinker, you are going to
cherry-pick them to suit yourself and those with whom you share what is
properly called a "purpose in life".

Far too little attention is paid to the fact that "consent" is routinely
and massively and sometimes viciously violated by this "we".

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Re: [agi] How AI will kill us

[John Rose]

On Sunday, December 03, 2023, at 10:00 AM, Matt Mahoney wrote:
> I don't mean to sound dystopian.


OK, let me present this a bit differently.

THIS MUTHERFUCKER WAS DESIGNED TO KILL YOU

Mkay?

In a nice way, not using gas or guns or bombs. It was a trial balloon developed 
over several decades and released to see how it would go. The shot that is, 
covid’s purpose was to facilitate the shots. It went quite well with little 
resistance. It took out 12 to 17 million lives according to conservative ACM 
estimates. I’ve seen other estimates much higher with the vax injuries in the 
100’s of millions, not mentioning natality rates, disabilities and the yet to 
be made dead.

Now you might ask, what’s all this got to do with AGI? Well let’s call it AI 
for now to obfuscate and not give AGI a bad name.

Two things: This weaponry is getting further honed by AI, and, AI can fight AI.

The scope is quite large and difficult to maintain a comprehensive focus on as 
it extends into various realms. As well most people are still playing catch up 
by just proving and acknowledging that it actually maims and kills verses what 
it is all about. For example, the Philippines gov’t has just voted on 
investigating what happened to those surplus 300+ thousand dead people from a 
couple years ago.

To me, tens of millions dead with many more injuries and mortality and natality 
plunging are some red flags and cause for concern.

You could say it was human driven by the deep state or transnational elites, or 
aliens or whatever but it could be AI. And it is/was definitely AI assisted and 
increasingly more so… so fighting this will require AI/AGI and/or other 
technologies yet to be provided. And if this is merely just Satan Klaus with 
the WEF and Kill Gates they will be taken care of using other mechanisms. But, 
if it is AI some unique skills may be required to deal with.

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