Re: BUS: Stamps for sale

[Owen Jacobson]

On Sep 4, 2017, at 10:06 PM, Alex Smith  wrote:

> On Mon, 2017-09-04 at 21:57 -0700, Owen Jacobson wrote:
>> The two stamps I currently hold are for sale - I’m hoping for 10 sh.
>> apiece for them, but I’ll take anything above 8.
>> 
>> Just make a payment and say you want one. I pledge to return payments
>> for sales I can’t or won’t complete.
> 
> If I'm willing to buy a Stamp for 11sh (and I was), I should be able to
> buy one for 10sh.
> 
> I transfer 10sh to o. I want one of o's Stamps in return. ("Say you
> want one" looks a lot like an action by announcement!)

It does, rather.

I transfer one stamp, which I created, to ais523.

-o



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Re: BUS: Stamps for sale

[Alex Smith]

On Mon, 2017-09-04 at 21:57 -0700, Owen Jacobson wrote:
> The two stamps I currently hold are for sale - I’m hoping for 10 sh.
> apiece for them, but I’ll take anything above 8.
> 
> Just make a payment and say you want one. I pledge to return payments
> for sales I can’t or won’t complete.

If I'm willing to buy a Stamp for 11sh (and I was), I should be able to
buy one for 10sh.

I transfer 10sh to o. I want one of o's Stamps in return. ("Say you
want one" looks a lot like an action by announcement!)

-- 
ais523

BUS: Stamps for sale

[Owen Jacobson]

The two stamps I currently hold are for sale - I’m hoping for 10 sh. apiece for 
them, but I’ll take anything above 8.

Just make a payment and say you want one. I pledge to return payments for sales 
I can’t or won’t complete.

-o



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BUS: Monsters

[Cuddle Beam]

I create the following proposal and pend it with 1 Action Point:

- Title: Monsters

- Content: Create a rule that titled "Monsters" and with the following
content:

"Monsters are entities that exist within Estates and are tracked by the
Surveyor. Monsters have a name which is a string of text and an amount of
Power, which is equal to the amount of characters their name string has.
(eg, an "Imp" has a Power of 3, and a "Pit Demon" has a power of 9).

Players CAN, by announcement, cause themselves to lose a positive integer
amount of Stamps and create a Monster at an Estate of their choice with
Power equal to, at most, the square of the Stamps they chose to lose."

Re: BUS: [Proposal] Organization Repeal

[Owen Jacobson]

> On Sep 1, 2017, at 9:49 PM, Owen Jacobson  wrote:
> 
> I submit the following proposal.
> 
> Title: Organization Repeal

I withdraw the proposal “Organization Repeal”.

-o



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Re: BUS: [Proposal] Float On

[Alex Smith]

On Mon, 2017-09-04 at 17:11 -0700, Owen Jacobson wrote:
> To ideally reduce future confusion about the Floating Value, I submit
> the following proposal.

This could really do with a definition of "spend". I recommend you
define it as a class of mechanisms for performing actions. Something
like "If a player can perform an action 'by spending X Shinies', where
X is a number, that player can perform that action by announcement if e
has X or more Shinies, and X Shinies are transferred from that player
to Agora when e does so."

-- 
ais523

BUS: [Proposal] Float On

[Owen Jacobson]

To ideally reduce future confusion about the Floating Value, I submit the 
following proposal.

-o

Title: Float On
Author: o
Co-authors:
AI: 2.0

{{{
Amend rule 2497 ("Floating Value") by replacing its text, in full, with:

{{{
Floating Value is a natural singleton switch, tracked by the
Secretary. Rules to the contrary notwithstanding, the Floating
Value switch CANNOT be flipped to a value other than the number
of Shinies owned by Agora.

The following Floating Derived Values are defined:

* Pend Cost: 1/20th of the Floating Value, rounded up.
* CFJ Cost: 1/20th of the Floating Value, rounded up.
* Authorship Reward: 1/40th of the Floating Value, rounded up.
* Pend Reward: 1/40th of the Floating Value, rounded up.
* CFJ Reward: 1/20th of the Floating Value, rounded up.
* Stamp Value: 1/5th of the Floating Value, rounded up.
}}}

Amend rule 2496 ("Rewards") by replacing the entire list after
"Below is an exhaustive list of Reward Conditions and eir rewards:"
with

{{{
* The following two only apply to proposals that were pended
  via spending shinies:

* Being the author of an adopted proposal: the current
  Authorship Reward.

* Being the pender of an adopted proposal: the current
  Pend Reward.

* Judging a CFJ, that was created via spending shinies, that e
  was assigned to: the current CFJ Reward.

* Publishing a duty-fulfilling report: 5 shinies.

* Resolving an Agoran Decision for the first time this week: 5
  shinies.
}}}

Amend rule 991 ("Calls for Judgement") by replacing item "b)" in
the first list with:

{{{
b) by announcement, and spending the current CFJ Cost in
   shinies, OR
}}}

Amend rule 2445 ("How to Pend a Proposal") by replacing item "b" in
the first list with:

{{{
b) spending the current Pend Cost in shinies
}}}

Amend rule 2498 ("Economic Wins") by removing the paragraph that
begins "The Stamp Value is".

If proposal 7845 has passed, amend rule 2456 ("The Secretary") by
removing "When the Secretary flips the Floating Value, e SHOULD
note the new values for rewards and expenses."

Amend rule 2456 ("The Secretary") by adding

{{{
 6. The Floating Value, and all Floating Derived Values
}}}

to the end of the list immediately after "The Secretary's weekly
report includes:", then by adding the following paragraph to the
end of the rule:

{{{
As part of the Secretary's weekly duties, e CAN and SHALL flip
the Floating Value to the number of Shinies owned by Agora. E
SHOULD do this while publishing eir weekly report.
}}}
}}}



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BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3557 assigned to Aris

[Kerim Aydin]

On Tue, 5 Sep 2017, Alex Smith wrote:
> On Mon, 2017-09-04 at 16:32 -0700, Owen Jacobson wrote:
> > > On Sep 4, 2017, at 3:16 PM, Owen Jacobson  wrote:
> > > > On Sep 4, 2017, at 3:08 PM, Kerim Aydin  wrote:
> > > > But there's no CAN limitation on flipping the balance, only a SHALL.  
> > > > You said before
> > > > you were ignoring how badly that rule was written and hoping for the 
> > > > best, I just
> > > > dont't think you can do that at this point…
> > > 
> > > Oh, ugh, you’re right. This is nasty.
> > > 
> > > I CFJ on the statement “my most recent attempt to flip the Floating Value 
> > > to 22 was ineffective.”
> > 
> > …using AP, dammit. Using AP.
> 
> This is CFJ 3557. I assign it to Aris.

Just adding my previous gratuitous arguments for reference:


The issue is that, the way the rule is written, it's unclear whether it
was IMPOSSIBLE or merely ILLEGAL.

Is there a "SHALL implies CAN by announcement" in the ruleset currently?
If not, is it in precedent, and does it mean the implied SHALL NOT is
a CANNOT, or merely a SHALL NOT?  And does the timing of the report
publication (second time in a week) matter?

Rule text:
   Floating Value is a natural switch. When e publishes eir Weekly Report, 
the
   Secretary SHALL flip the Floating Value to Agora's shiny balance.

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: Stamp Purchases on a-b (attn ais523, Gaelan)

[Owen Jacobson]

> On Sep 4, 2017, at 3:16 PM, Owen Jacobson  wrote:
> 
> 
>> On Sep 4, 2017, at 3:08 PM, Kerim Aydin  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> But there's no CAN limitation on flipping the balance, only a SHALL.  You 
>> said before
>> you were ignoring how badly that rule was written and hoping for the best, I 
>> just
>> dont't think you can do that at this point…
> 
> Oh, ugh, you’re right. This is nasty.
> 
> I CFJ on the statement “my most recent attempt to flip the Floating Value to 
> 22 was ineffective.”

…using AP, dammit. Using AP.

-o



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Re: BUS: humble agoran farmer makes 100 stamps

[Alex Smith]

On Tue, 2017-09-05 at 00:22 +0200, Cuddle Beam wrote:
> This series of actions below is "Cuddlebeam's 100 Stamps Sequence". If the
> result of performing this sequence would result in me having at least 100
> Stamps, I perform "Cuddlebeam's 100 Stamps Sequence".

I highly suspect this fails regardless of what the actions are, given
how long they are. That said, this depends on the relevant precedents about 
conditionals, and I wouldn't be surprised if some of them contradicted each 
other.

-- 
ais523

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: Stamp Purchases on a-b (attn ais523, Gaelan)

[Alex Smith]

On Mon, 2017-09-04 at 15:16 -0700, Owen Jacobson wrote:
> Consequent actions can sort themselves out from there, either way.
> I’m glad of ais523’s choice to pad eir repair attempt with the right
> conditional.

You can't buy multiple Stamps in a month anyway, so that was mostly an
attempt to defend myself against spending Shinies to no end if it ends
up being ruled that the action does spend Shinies despite being
impossible. (I wouldn't expect such a ruling, but after years of
playing Agora this sort of self-defence is something of a reflex; it
rarely comes up, but when it does, you're glad you used it.)

-- 
ais523

Re: BUS: Stampede

[Owen Jacobson]

> On Sep 4, 2017, at 3:21 PM, Aris Merchant 
>  wrote:
> 
> I issue o a trust token. I pay Agora 4 sh. to create a stamp.
> 
> -Aris

I issue Aris a trust token.

-o


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BUS: humble agoran farmer makes 100 stamps

[Cuddle Beam]

I assume "duty" can be used in the regular language use sense of
"responsibility" or "obligation". A pledge is, well, a duty, because "A
player  SHALL NOT
 break eir own publicly-made
pledges.".

Publishing a report isn't a regulated action either luckily, because you
can publish reports with incorrect information and such, but those reports
are still reports. You should (or SHOULD) do it in certain circumstances,
but "should" is just a recommendation.

Also note that it's "official duty", not simply "duty", in "An official
duty for an office  is any duty
that the Rules specifically assign to that office's holder in particular
(regardless of eir identity)." in R2143, so duty isn't "regulated" or
rule-lingo either.

Anyway:

This series of actions below is "Cuddlebeam's 100 Stamps Sequence". If the
result of performing this sequence would result in me having at least 100
Stamps, I perform "Cuddlebeam's 100 Stamps Sequence".

---
+---Cuddlebeam's 100 Stamps Sequence---+
---

Here, certain actions/steps will be named with A), B), etc.

A) I perform the action of pledging to post a report on what is
Cuddlebeam's favorite icecream flavor in a timely fashion.


B) The following below is a report


---*---

REPORT ABOUT CUDDLEBEAM'S FAVORITE ICECREAM FLAVOR

by Cuddlebeam


After in-depth investigation via deep meditation and having the
subject (myself) remember the various flavors of icecreams I have
eaten in the past, after much deliberation and thought, I have
obtained evidence that, in fact, I really like chocolate icecream.
This has been accomplished via finding that it has historically caused
the highest sensation of "oooh yummy" in the subject - consistently.
Therefore, I can conclude that Cuddlebeam's favorite Icecream Flavor
is Chocolate.

---*---


So I fulfill that pledge.


I meet the Reward condition of "Publishing a duty-fulfilling report: 5 shinies."


C) I claim 5 shinies from Agora via it. (Agora transfers 5 shinies to me)


Be action Z) the following: Performing A), B) then C) twice (so
A-B-C-A-B-C) then creating a Stamp by transferring 10 Shinies to Agora


I then perform action Z) one hundred times.

Re: BUS: Stampede

[Aris Merchant]

I issue o a trust token. I pay Agora 4 sh. to create a stamp.

-Aris

On Mon, Sep 4, 2017 at 3:19 PM Publius Scribonius Scholasticus <
p.scribonius.scholasti...@googlemail.com> wrote:

> To o, a trust token becomes issued by me.
> 
> Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
> p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com
>
>
>
> > On Sep 4, 2017, at 6:18 PM, Owen Jacobson  wrote:
> >
> > I pay Agora 4 sh. to create a stamp.
> >
> > -o
> >
>
>

Re: BUS: Stampede

[Publius Scribonius Scholasticus]

To o, a trust token becomes issued by me.

Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
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> On Sep 4, 2017, at 6:18 PM, Owen Jacobson  wrote:
> 
> I pay Agora 4 sh. to create a stamp.
> 
> -o
> 



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BUS: Stampede

[Owen Jacobson]

I pay Agora 4 sh. to create a stamp.

-o



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BUS: Re: DIS: Re: Stamp Purchases on a-b (attn ais523, Gaelan)

[Owen Jacobson]

> On Sep 4, 2017, at 3:08 PM, Kerim Aydin  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> But there's no CAN limitation on flipping the balance, only a SHALL.  You 
> said before
> you were ignoring how badly that rule was written and hoping for the best, I 
> just
> dont't think you can do that at this point…

Oh, ugh, you’re right. This is nasty.

I CFJ on the statement “my most recent attempt to flip the Floating Value to 22 
was ineffective.”

Consequent actions can sort themselves out from there, either way. I’m glad of 
ais523’s choice to pad eir repair attempt with the right conditional.

-o



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Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Secretary] Weekly Report (revision 1)

[Owen Jacobson]

> On Sep 4, 2017, at 3:10 PM, Alex Smith  wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 2017-09-04 at 14:49 -0700, Owen Jacobson wrote:
>> * The Stamp Value is 4 sh.
> 
> If my attempt within the previous 24 hours to create a Stamp failed, I
> transfer 4 sh to Agora to create a Stamp.

I issue ais523 a trust token.

-o



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BUS: Re: OFF: [Secretary] Weekly Report (revision 1)

[Alex Smith]

On Mon, 2017-09-04 at 14:49 -0700, Owen Jacobson wrote:
> * The Stamp Value is 4 sh.

If my attempt within the previous 24 hours to create a Stamp failed, I
transfer 4 sh to Agora to create a Stamp.

-- 
ais523

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: Stamp Purchases on a-b (attn ais523, Gaelan)

[Owen Jacobson]

On Sep 4, 2017, at 2:59 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus 
 wrote:

> No, let’s just leave it. I buy a stamp.

I issue Publius Scribonius Scholasticus a trust token.

-o




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BUS: Re: DIS: Re: Stamp Purchases on a-b (attn ais523, Gaelan)

[Publius Scribonius Scholasticus]

No, let’s just leave it. I buy a stamp.

Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
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> On Sep 4, 2017, at 5:53 PM, Owen Jacobson  wrote:
> 
> On Sep 4, 2017, at 1:34 PM, Alex Smith  wrote:
> 
>> On Mon, 2017-09-04 at 13:18 -0700, Owen Jacobson wrote:
>>> * The Stamp Value is 5 sh.
>> 
>> I transfer 5 sh to Agora to create a Stamp.
> 
> On Sep 4, 2017, at 2:33 PM, Gaelan Steele  wrote:
> 
>> Oops, I’m capped at a stamp per month. If I do not own a stamp, I transfer 5 
>> shinies to Agora to create a stamp.
>> 
>> {Agora: 12->17; Gaelan: 60->55}
> 
> 
> Oooh, did either of these actually work?
> 
> I can only flip the Floating Value to exactly Agora’s balance. I erroneously 
> believed Agora’s balance to be 22 sh.., but it was actually 16 sh.. I believe 
> the stamp value at that exact moment was unchanged from the previous week:
> 
> On Aug 28, 2017, at 3:39 PM, Owen Jacobson  wrote:
> 
>> * The Stamp Value is 23 sh.
> 
> It seems clear to me that the right outcome here is for you to keep your 
> shinies and not get a stamp, and given that the action of spending shinies 
> was clearly conditioned on creating a stamp, I think that’s what actually 
> happened, too. Anyone feel strongly enough to call a CFJ?
> 
> -o
> 



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BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7872-7845

[Owen Jacobson]

TTttPF.

-o

> On Sep 4, 2017, at 1:07 PM, Owen Jacobson  wrote:
> 
> I vote as follows:
> 
>> ID Author(s) AI   Title   Pender  Pend fee
>> ---
>> 7872*  o 2.0  Estate Auction Cleanup  o   1 AP
> 
> FOR.
> 
>> 7873*  o, babelian   2.0  Agoracultureo   1 AP
> 
> FOR.
> 
>> 7874*  o 2.0  Shorter Apologies   o   3 sh.
> 
> FOR.
> 
>> 7845*  nichdel   1.0  Better Accounting   o   1 AP
> 
> FOR, with some trepidation. I might float a proposal that refactors all the 
> derived amounts into the same rule, with a specific rule-defined name for the 
> class of values.
> 
> -o



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BUS: Stamp Purchase

[Gaelan Steele]

I transfer 50 shinies to Agora to create 10 stamps.

{Agora: 12->62; Gaelan: 60->10}

Gaelan

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BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7872-7845

[Aris Merchant]

I vote as follows:
>
>> ID Author(s) AI   Title   Pender  Pend fee
>> ---
>> 7872*  o 2.0  Estate Auction Cleanup  o   1 AP
>
FOR.
>
>> 7873*  o, babelian   2.0  Agoracultureo   1 AP
>
PRESENT. I'm not sure about how this will impact the proposal economy,
and am worried it may lead to too much power consolidation. On the
other hand, it's very interesting, and I like interesting and
innovative ideas.
>
>> 7874*  o 2.0  Shorter Apologies   o   3 sh.
>
FOR.
>
>> 7845*  nichdel   1.0  Better Accounting   o   1 AP
Endorse o.

-Aris

BUS: Proposal: Agora Protection Act

[Aris Merchant]

I submit the following proposal. I don't think anything in it should
be objectionable, but let me know if that isn't true. I seem to recall
someone mentioning that R101 probably didn't need to be at power 4,
but it's nice symbolism and I don't remember any specific problems.

---
Title: Agora Protection Act
Adoption index: 3.0
Author: Aris
Co-author(s):

Amend Rule 1698 by:
Replacing the words "any other single change" with "any other single change or
inseparable group of changes".

Change the power of Rule 1698 to 4.0.

Change the power of Rule 101 to 4.0.
---

-Aris

BUS: Re: OFF: [Secretary] Weekly Report

[Publius Scribonius Scholasticus]

CoE: This doesn’t include the payment for my judgement.

Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
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> On Sep 4, 2017, at 4:18 PM, Owen Jacobson  wrote:
> 
> As Secretary, I flip the Floating Value to 22.
> 
> This week:
> 
> * Pending a proposal costs 1 AP or 2 sh.
> * Calling for judgement, if a player, costs 1 AP or 2 sh.
> * The reward for authoring or pending a successful proposal pended with 
> shinies is 1 sh.
> * The reward for judging a CFJ called with shinies is 2 sh.
> * The Stamp Value is 5 sh.
> 
> 
> Secretary's Weekly Report
> 
> Date of this report: Sun,  3 Sep 2017
> Date of last report: Sun, 27 Aug 2017
> 
> 
> Recent events (all times UTC):
> 
> Thu, 17 Aug 2017 05:25:58  Agora paid o 15 sh.
> Thu, 17 Aug 2017 05:36:51  o paid Agora 1 sh.
> Thu, 17 Aug 2017 12:38:08  ais523 paid o 5 sh.
> Fri, 18 Aug 2017 13:53:28  Agora paid Gaelan 10 sh.
> Sun, 20 Aug 2017 22:56:33  Agora paid P.S.S. 5 sh.
> Sun, 20 Aug 2017 22:58:43  Agora paid P.S.S. 5 sh.
> - previous report -
> Mon, 21 Aug 2017 14:47:58  Agora paid o 15 sh.
> Mon, 21 Aug 2017 14:47:58  o paid Agora 11 sh.
> Mon, 21 Aug 2017 14:54:50  ais523 paid Agora 11 sh.
> Wed, 23 Aug 2017 03:31:05  Agora paid Quazie 5 sh.
> Wed, 23 Aug 2017 03:31:26  o paid Agora 3 sh.
> Wed, 23 Aug 2017 04:04:25  Agora paid K 50 sh.
> Wed, 23 Aug 2017 19:42:45  天火狐 paid Agora 11 sh.
> Thu, 24 Aug 2017 01:03:07  Agora paid ais523 5 sh.
> Thu, 24 Aug 2017 03:08:13  K deregistered
> Fri, 25 Aug 2017 19:21:50  Agora paid G. 50 sh.
> Sun, 27 Aug 2017 22:43:19  tmanthe2nd, Zachary Watterson deregistered
> - time of last report -
> Mon, 28 Aug 2017 23:02:05  Agora paid o 15 sh.
> Mon, 28 Aug 2017 23:02:05  Agora paid CuddleBeam 50 sh.
> Mon, 28 Aug 2017 23:02:05  o caused a Shiny Relevelling Event (-5 sh.)
> Sat,  2 Sep 2017 04:06:47  Agora paid o 5 sh.
> Sun,  3 Sep 2017 21:52:45  Agora paid P.S.S. 5 sh.
> Sun,  3 Sep 2017 21:53:02  Agora paid P.S.S. 5 sh.
> Sun,  3 Sep 2017 22:07:03  Agora paid P.S.S. 5 sh.
> 
> 
> Personal Lockouts: None
> 
> Global Lockout: No
> 
> 
> Balances:
> 
>  22 Shinies  Agora
>   1 Shinies  Organization
>   1 ShiniesASaAA
> 977 Shinies  Player
>  60 ShiniesAris
>  50 ShiniesCuddleBeam
>  50 ShiniesG.
>  60 ShiniesGaelan
>  50 ShiniesIenpw III
>  50 ShiniesMurphy
> 100 ShiniesPublius Scribonius Scholasticus
>  55 ShiniesQuazie
>  50 ShiniesSprocklem
>  50 ShiniesVeggiekeks
>  39 Shiniesais523
>  55 Shiniesbabelian
>  50 Shiniesbayushi
>  50 Shiniesgrok
>  11 Shiniesnichdel
> 108 Shinieso
>  50 Shiniesomd
>  39 Shinies天火狐
> 
> 
> Budgets:
> 
> Player ABM  ACU  ASaAA  蘭亭社 Expenditure
> -
> ais523  25   30 55
> nichdel 50  50
> Murphy   50 50
> omd  20 20
> Sprocklem   25   20 45
> 天火狐  50   50
> 
> Income  50  120 50 50  270
> 
> ABM = The Agoran Betting Market
> ACU = The Agoran Credit Union
> ASaAA = Agoran Stamps and Awards Association
> 



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BUS: Re: OFF: [Secretary] Weekly Report

[Alex Smith]

On Mon, 2017-09-04 at 13:18 -0700, Owen Jacobson wrote:
> * The Stamp Value is 5 sh.

I transfer 5 sh to Agora to create a Stamp.

-- 
ais523

BUS: Rewards

[Owen Jacobson]

I claim a reward of 5 sh. apiece for the most recent Secretary’s, Referee’s, 
and Surveyor’s reports.

{Agora: 22 -> 7 sh., o: 108 -> 123 sh.}

All Agorans are ENCOURAGED to buy stamps!

-o



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BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3556 assigned to G.

[Kerim Aydin]

I judge CFJ 3556 as follows:

INSUFFICIENT.  In addition to limited caller's arguments, judging this
correctly required a judgement of CFJ 3555 from Judge grok.

If grok delivers a judgement of 3555 within the reconsideration window,
I'll file a motion to reconsider this one.

On Sat, 26 Aug 2017, Alex Smith wrote:

> On Fri, 2017-08-25 at 03:49 +0100, Alex Smith wrote:
> > On Fri, 2017-08-25 at 04:32 +0200, Cuddle Beam wrote:
> > > Is the comma important? It's probably important.
> > > 
> > > So:
> > > 
> > > Once for each of Quazie's Agencies, I have Quazie appoint me the title of
> > > Speaker via that Agency's Powers, as an action on behalf of Quazie.
> > > 
> > > Once for each of Quazie's Agencies, I appoint myself Speaker and have
> > > Quazie Support it via that Agency's Powers, as an action on behalf of
> > > Quazie.
> > > 
> > > Once for each of Quazie's Agencies, I appoint myself Speaker via that
> > > Agency's Powers on behalf of Quazie.
> > > 
> > > Once for each of Quazie's Agencies, I perform an action such which via use
> > > of that Agency, would grant me the title of Speaker.
> > > 
> > > I award myself a Platinum Ribbon.
> > > 
> > > I withdraw my latest CFJ of "Cuddlebeam has a Platinum Ribbon."
> > > 
> > > I now CFJ: "Cuddlebeam has a Platinum Ribbon".
> > 
> > I call for judgement on the statement "Cuddlebeam has a Platinum
> > Ribbon", by spending 1 Action Point.
> > 
> > I assign the resulting CFJ the ID number 3556, and assign it to
> > Cuddlebeam. Work your way through your messes yourself!
> 
> This CFJ was called legally, but not assigned legally. I thus instead
> assign it to G. (who favoured it). I also suggest that the judgement
> should discuss Cuddlebeam's third attempt to perform these actions,
> even though it occurred after the calling of the CFJ.
> 
> > > On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 4:28 AM, Cuddle Beam  wrote:
> > > 
> > > > I have no idea how the method to do that would be because I'm not up to
> > > > date, but, as a shot in the dark:
> > > > 
> > > > Once, for each of Quazie's Agencies, I have Quazie appoint me the title 
> > > > of
> > > > Speaker via that Agency's Powers, as an action on behalf of Quazie.
> > > > 
> > > > Once, for each of Quazie's Agencies, I appoint myself Speaker and have
> > > > Quazie Support it via that Agency's Powers, as an action on behalf of
> > > > Quazie.
> > > > 
> > > > Once, for each of Quazie's Agencies, I appoint myself Speaker via that
> > > > Agency's Powers on behalf of Quazie.
> > > > 
> > > > Once, for each of Quazie's Agencies, I perform an action such which via
> > > > use of that Agency, would grant me the title of Speaker.
> > > > 
> > > > I award myself a Platinum Ribbon.
> > > > 
> > > > I CFJ: Cuddlebeam has a Platinum Ribbon.
> > > > 
> > > > > > On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 3:28 AM, V.J Rada  
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > Assuming either PSSs announcement or my ratification worked, anyone
> > > > > can use Quazie's agency to appoint themselves speaker. If G's recent
> > > > > CFJ is correct and my ratification didn't work, Cuddle can still do
> > > > > so.
> > > > > --
> > > > > From V.J Rada
> 
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> ais523
> Arbitor
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