BUS: Another CFJ
So... I've been listing C♥️U and C♥️N as not agencies thanks to the ruling in CFJ 3544 that they stopped being agencies upon Cuddlebeam's deregistration. I forgot though that Cuddlebeam reregistered. And 3544 does state in dicta that the judge believes that if CB reregistered, they would once again become agencies because they remain documents. I therefore CFJ with AP with the statement: C♥️U and C♥️N are agencies. -- >From V.J. Rada
Re: ***UNCHECKED*** BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7908-7921
> On Oct 10, 2017, at 6:58 PM, Owen Jacobsonwrote: > > PRESENT. I suspect this is impractical, per Alexis’ overarching complaints > about platonic outcomes from subjective judgements. A refund mechanism for > linty proposals might be more fitting. There isn’t anything subjective here. All it requires is “I pend this with AP. I have reviewed this proposal for lint.” If you don’t say that, the proposal doesn’t get created. The only potentially subjective thing here is the SHALL NOT against lying (if there is obvious lint, did you really lint it?), but that isn’t a new problem. If I make a proposal with a snuck-in scam and say “I’ve taken a lot of care to make sure this is scam-free” when making the proposal, the same problem could arise. Gaelan
BUS: Re: OFF: [Secretary] Weekly Report (revision 2)
On Oct 11, 2017, at 12:17 AM, Owen Jacobsonwrote: > As Secretary, I flip the Floating Value to 20. On Oct 11, 2017, at 12:29 AM, Owen Jacobson wrote: > As Secretary, I flip the Floating Value to 22. On Oct 11, 2017, at 12:54 AM, Owen Jacobson wrote: > As Secretary, I flip the Floating Value to 9. Something snagged my memory, so I went back and looked at the rules. We did, in fact, make this mechanism less brittle. From rule 2456 (“The Secretary”): > The Secretary CAN flip the floating value once a week by announcement. As > part of eir weekly duties, e SHALL flip the Floating Value to the number of > Shinies owned by Agora; e SHALL NOT ever set it to a different value. E > SHOULD do this while publishing eir weekly report. If the Secretary discovers > that e last flipped the floating value to an incorrect value and e would not > otherwise be able to set it again yet, e CAN and SHALL set the value to what > it should have been set to in the first place by announcement. I issue myself a Green Card by summary judgement for breaking rule 2456 at Oct 11, 2017, at 12:17 AM. I issue myself a Green Card by summary judgement for breaking rule 2456 at Oct 11, 2017, at 12:29 AM. -o signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP
BUS: Re: OFF: [Secretary] Weekly Report (revision 1)
PF On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 3:46 PM, VJ Radawrote: > CoE: Between your last report and this one, I bought a stamp from > Agora. I'm COEing bc obviously that would change the values again. > > On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 3:29 PM, Owen Jacobson wrote: >> On Oct 11, 2017, at 12:23 AM, VJ Rada wrote: >> >>> coe: when aris incorrectly awarded emself 7 shinies, e also gave 2 to >>> agora and the chest. that should be counted here. >> >> I publish the following revision, and claim a reward of 5 sh. if and only if >> I did not already receive a reward for the Secretary’s weekly report this >> week. >> >> As Secretary, I flip the Floating Value to 22. >> >> Secretary's Weekly Report >> >> Date of this report: Wed, 11 Oct 2017 >> Date of last report: Thu, 4 Oct 2017 >> >> Recent events (all times UTC): >> >> Tue, 26 Sep 2017 03:49:30 V.J Rada paid Agora 1 sh. >> Tue, 26 Sep 2017 03:59:47 o destroyed Agoran Betting Market >> Tue, 26 Sep 2017 04:41:59 Aris paid Agora 16 sh. >> Tue, 26 Sep 2017 04:53:22 V.J Rada paid Agora 20 sh. >> Tue, 26 Sep 2017 05:01:59 o paid Agora 44 sh. >> Tue, 26 Sep 2017 06:26:11 Gaelan paid Agora 23 sh. >> Tue, 26 Sep 2017 10:54:41 P.S.S.[1] paid Agora 13 sh. >> Tue, 26 Sep 2017 11:15:12 V.J Rada created a stamp for 1 sh. >> Tue, 26 Sep 2017 14:27:23 grok created a stamp for 1 sh. >> Tue, 26 Sep 2017 22:18:15 G. paid Agora 14 sh. >> Wed, 27 Sep 2017 10:13:46 Gaelan paid Trigon 20 sh. >> Wed, 27 Sep 2017 10:13:46 Gaelan paid Alexis 20 sh. >> Wed, 27 Sep 2017 16:05:28 Agora paid Alexis 50 sh. >> Wed, 27 Sep 2017 16:35:50 grok transferred a stamp (grok) to Agora >> Wed, 27 Sep 2017 15:38:43 grok deregistered >> Thu, 28 Sep 2017 01:41:09 o paid Agora 1 sh. >> Fri, 29 Sep 2017 00:45:06 V.J Rada paid Agora 1 sh. >> Fri, 29 Sep 2017 00:45:06 Agora paid the Community Chest 1 sh. >> Fri, 29 Sep 2017 00:54:47 G. paid Gaelan 4 sh. >> Sat, 30 Sep 2017 12:39:18 Agora paid V.J Rada 5 sh. >> Sat, 30 Sep 2017 12:39:18 V.J Rada paid Agora 2 sh. >> Sat, 30 Sep 2017 12:39:18 V.J Rada paid the Community Chest 2 sh. >> Sun, 1 Oct 2017 14:57:04 P.S.S.[1] paid Agora 1 sh. >> Mon, 2 Oct 2017 00:08:16 Gaelan paid Agora 1 sh. >> Mon, 2 Oct 2017 01:19:38 Gaelan paid Agora 1 sh. >> Tue, 3 Oct 2017 21:29:09 Agora paid G. 5 sh. >> Tue, 3 Oct 2017 21:29:09 G. paid nichdel 5 sh. >> - previous report - >> Wed, 4 Oct 2017 01:37:30 Agora paid o 15 sh. >> Wed, 4 Oct 2017 01:43:46 Agora paid G. 5 sh. >> Wed, 4 Oct 2017 01:49:02 Agora paid o 5 sh. >> Wed, 4 Oct 2017 04:27:27 V.J Rada destroyed a stamp (V.J Rada) for 27 sh. >> Wed, 4 Oct 2017 04:27:27 V.J Rada paid the Community Chest 13 sh. >> Wed, 4 Oct 2017 04:50:06 G. destroyed a stamp for 27 sh. >> Wed, 4 Oct 2017 19:18:13 Agora paid G. 5 sh. >> Wed, 4 Oct 2017 19:44:15 Agora paid Alexis 7 sh. >> Thu, 5 Oct 2017 01:07:32 P.S.S.[1] destroyed a stamp for 27 sh. >> Thu, 5 Oct 2017 01:47:41 o paid 天火狐 2 sh. >> Thu, 5 Oct 2017 01:47:41 o paid G. 2 sh. >> Thu, 5 Oct 2017 05:11:29 Agora paid o 5 sh. >> - time of last report - >> Mon, 9 Oct 2017 02:12:32 V.J Rada paid Agora 2 sh. >> Mon, 9 Oct 2017 02:34:35 Agora paid V.J Rada 5 sh. >> Mon, 9 Oct 2017 02:34:35 V.J Rada paid the Community Chest 2 sh. >> Mon, 9 Oct 2017 02:36:25 V.J Rada paid the Community Chest 2 sh. >> Mon, 9 Oct 2017 04:03:00 Aris paid the Community Chest 2 sh. >> Mon, 9 Oct 2017 04:03:00 Aris paid Agora 2 sh. >> Tue, 10 Oct 2017 15:03:10 Agora paid 天火狐 5 sh. >> Wed, 11 Oct 2017 02:18:55 o paid 天火狐 2 sh. >> Wed, 11 Oct 2017 03:50:12 Agora paid V.J Rada 5 sh. >> >> [1] In full, "Publius Scribonius Scholasticus" >> >> >> Personal Lockouts: None >> >> Global Lockout: No >> >> >> Floating Value: 22 >> >> Floating Derived Values: >> >> NameFormula Value >> - >> Pend Cost 1/20 * FV 2 >> CFJ Cost1/20 * FV 2 >> Authorship Reward 1/40 * FV 1 >> Pend Reward 1/40 * FV 1 >> CFJ Reward 1/20 * FV 2 >> Stamp Value 1/5 * FV5 >> >> >> Balances: >> >> 22 Shinies Agora >> 22 Shinies Community Chest >>1 Shinies Organization >>1 ShiniesASaAA >> 955 Shinies Player >> 51 ShiniesATMunn >> 57 ShiniesAlexis >> 28 ShiniesAris >> 65 ShiniesCuddleBeam >> 65 ShiniesG. >>4 ShiniesGaelan >> 50 ShiniesIenpw III >> 50 ShiniesK >> 50 ShiniesMurphy >> 120 ShiniesPublius Scribonius Scholasticus >> 50 ShiniesQuazie >> 20 ShiniesTrigon >> 59 ShiniesV.J Rada >> 50 Shiniesbayushi >> 17 Shiniesnichdel >> 105 Shinieso >> 50 Shiniesomd >> 64 Shinies天火狐 >> >> >>
BUS: [Proposal] Faster Auctions
It turns out that once a month is far too slow: Estates have been sitting in Agora’s hands since the Estates proposal was passed, and there’s been a grand total of _one_ secondary-market transaction including an Estate since the proposal was enacted. This proposal accelerates Estate auctions to get the last two into Agorans’ hands. I submit the following proposal. Title: Faster Auctions Author: o Co-authors: AI: 2.0 {{{ Amend rule 2491 ("Estate Auctions") by replacing the phrase "At the start of each month" with "At the start of each week". }}} -o signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP
BUS: Re: OFF: [Secretary] Weekly Report
coe: when aris incorrectly awarded emself 7 shinies, e also gave 2 to agora and the chest. that should be counted here. On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 3:21 PM, VJ Radawrote: > I buy a stamp. > > On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 3:17 PM, Owen Jacobson wrote: >> As Secretary, I flip the Floating Value to 20. >> >> Secretary's Weekly Report >> >> Date of this report: Wed, 11 Oct 2017 >> Date of last report: Thu, 4 Oct 2017 >> >> Recent events (all times UTC): >> >> Tue, 26 Sep 2017 03:49:30 V.J Rada paid Agora 1 sh. >> Tue, 26 Sep 2017 03:59:47 o destroyed Agoran Betting Market >> Tue, 26 Sep 2017 04:41:59 Aris paid Agora 16 sh. >> Tue, 26 Sep 2017 04:53:22 V.J Rada paid Agora 20 sh. >> Tue, 26 Sep 2017 05:01:59 o paid Agora 44 sh. >> Tue, 26 Sep 2017 06:26:11 Gaelan paid Agora 23 sh. >> Tue, 26 Sep 2017 10:54:41 P.S.S.[1] paid Agora 13 sh. >> Tue, 26 Sep 2017 11:15:12 V.J Rada created a stamp for 1 sh. >> Tue, 26 Sep 2017 14:27:23 grok created a stamp for 1 sh. >> Tue, 26 Sep 2017 22:18:15 G. paid Agora 14 sh. >> Wed, 27 Sep 2017 10:13:46 Gaelan paid Trigon 20 sh. >> Wed, 27 Sep 2017 10:13:46 Gaelan paid Alexis 20 sh. >> Wed, 27 Sep 2017 16:05:28 Agora paid Alexis 50 sh. >> Wed, 27 Sep 2017 16:35:50 grok transferred a stamp (grok) to Agora >> Wed, 27 Sep 2017 15:38:43 grok deregistered >> Thu, 28 Sep 2017 01:41:09 o paid Agora 1 sh. >> Fri, 29 Sep 2017 00:45:06 V.J Rada paid Agora 1 sh. >> Fri, 29 Sep 2017 00:45:06 Agora paid the Community Chest 1 sh. >> Fri, 29 Sep 2017 00:54:47 G. paid Gaelan 4 sh. >> Sat, 30 Sep 2017 12:39:18 Agora paid V.J Rada 5 sh. >> Sat, 30 Sep 2017 12:39:18 V.J Rada paid Agora 2 sh. >> Sat, 30 Sep 2017 12:39:18 V.J Rada paid the Community Chest 2 sh. >> Sun, 1 Oct 2017 14:57:04 P.S.S.[1] paid Agora 1 sh. >> Mon, 2 Oct 2017 00:08:16 Gaelan paid Agora 1 sh. >> Mon, 2 Oct 2017 01:19:38 Gaelan paid Agora 1 sh. >> Tue, 3 Oct 2017 21:29:09 Agora paid G. 5 sh. >> Tue, 3 Oct 2017 21:29:09 G. paid nichdel 5 sh. >> - previous report - >> Wed, 4 Oct 2017 01:37:30 Agora paid o 15 sh. >> Wed, 4 Oct 2017 01:43:46 Agora paid G. 5 sh. >> Wed, 4 Oct 2017 01:49:02 Agora paid o 5 sh. >> Wed, 4 Oct 2017 04:27:27 V.J Rada destroyed a stamp (V.J Rada) for 27 sh. >> Wed, 4 Oct 2017 04:27:27 V.J Rada paid the Community Chest 13 sh. >> Wed, 4 Oct 2017 04:50:06 G. destroyed a stamp for 27 sh. >> Wed, 4 Oct 2017 19:18:13 Agora paid G. 5 sh. >> Wed, 4 Oct 2017 19:44:15 Agora paid Alexis 7 sh. >> Thu, 5 Oct 2017 01:07:32 P.S.S.[1] destroyed a stamp for 27 sh. >> Thu, 5 Oct 2017 01:47:41 o paid 天火狐 2 sh. >> Thu, 5 Oct 2017 01:47:41 o paid G. 2 sh. >> Thu, 5 Oct 2017 05:11:29 Agora paid o 5 sh. >> - time of last report - >> Mon, 9 Oct 2017 02:12:32 V.J Rada paid Agora 2 sh. >> Mon, 9 Oct 2017 02:34:35 Agora paid V.J Rada 5 sh. >> Mon, 9 Oct 2017 02:34:35 V.J Rada paid the Community Chest 2 sh. >> Mon, 9 Oct 2017 02:36:25 V.J Rada paid the Community Chest 2 sh. >> Tue, 10 Oct 2017 15:03:10 Agora paid 天火狐 5 sh. >> Wed, 11 Oct 2017 02:18:55 o paid 天火狐 2 sh. >> Wed, 11 Oct 2017 03:50:12 Agora paid V.J Rada 5 sh. >> >> [1] In full, "Publius Scribonius Scholasticus" >> >> >> Personal Lockouts: None >> >> Global Lockout: No >> >> >> Floating Value: 20 >> >> Floating Derived Values: >> >> NameFormula Value >> - >> Pend Cost 1/20 * FV 1 >> CFJ Cost1/20 * FV 1 >> Authorship Reward 1/40 * FV 1 >> Pend Reward 1/40 * FV 1 >> CFJ Reward 1/20 * FV 1 >> Stamp Value 1/5 * FV4 >> >> >> Balances: >> >> 20 Shinies Agora >> 20 Shinies Community Chest >>1 Shinies Organization >>1 ShiniesASaAA >> 959 Shinies Player >> 51 ShiniesATMunn >> 57 ShiniesAlexis >> 32 ShiniesAris >> 65 ShiniesCuddleBeam >> 65 ShiniesG. >>4 ShiniesGaelan >> 50 ShiniesIenpw III >> 50 ShiniesK >> 50 ShiniesMurphy >> 120 ShiniesPublius Scribonius Scholasticus >> 50 ShiniesQuazie >> 20 ShiniesTrigon >> 59 ShiniesV.J Rada >> 50 Shiniesbayushi >> 17 Shiniesnichdel >> 105 Shinieso >> 50 Shiniesomd >> 64 Shinies天火狐 >> >> Stamps: >> >> Made By Owned By Qty >> - >> ais523 Agora 2 >> grok Agora 1 >> oAgora 1 >> Aris Aris 1 >> Gaelan Gaelan 1 >> Quazie Quazie 1 >> nichdel nichdel2 >> oo 1 >> 天火狐天火狐 2 >> >> >> Budgets: >> >> Player ACU ASaAA 蘭亭社 Expenditure >> >> nichdel
BUS: Rewards
I claim a reward of 5 sh. apiece for each of the Agronomist’s, Referee’s, Secretary’s, and Surveyor’s weekly reports. -o signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP
BUS: Re: OFF: [Secretary] Weekly Report
I buy a stamp. On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 3:17 PM, Owen Jacobsonwrote: > As Secretary, I flip the Floating Value to 20. > > Secretary's Weekly Report > > Date of this report: Wed, 11 Oct 2017 > Date of last report: Thu, 4 Oct 2017 > > Recent events (all times UTC): > > Tue, 26 Sep 2017 03:49:30 V.J Rada paid Agora 1 sh. > Tue, 26 Sep 2017 03:59:47 o destroyed Agoran Betting Market > Tue, 26 Sep 2017 04:41:59 Aris paid Agora 16 sh. > Tue, 26 Sep 2017 04:53:22 V.J Rada paid Agora 20 sh. > Tue, 26 Sep 2017 05:01:59 o paid Agora 44 sh. > Tue, 26 Sep 2017 06:26:11 Gaelan paid Agora 23 sh. > Tue, 26 Sep 2017 10:54:41 P.S.S.[1] paid Agora 13 sh. > Tue, 26 Sep 2017 11:15:12 V.J Rada created a stamp for 1 sh. > Tue, 26 Sep 2017 14:27:23 grok created a stamp for 1 sh. > Tue, 26 Sep 2017 22:18:15 G. paid Agora 14 sh. > Wed, 27 Sep 2017 10:13:46 Gaelan paid Trigon 20 sh. > Wed, 27 Sep 2017 10:13:46 Gaelan paid Alexis 20 sh. > Wed, 27 Sep 2017 16:05:28 Agora paid Alexis 50 sh. > Wed, 27 Sep 2017 16:35:50 grok transferred a stamp (grok) to Agora > Wed, 27 Sep 2017 15:38:43 grok deregistered > Thu, 28 Sep 2017 01:41:09 o paid Agora 1 sh. > Fri, 29 Sep 2017 00:45:06 V.J Rada paid Agora 1 sh. > Fri, 29 Sep 2017 00:45:06 Agora paid the Community Chest 1 sh. > Fri, 29 Sep 2017 00:54:47 G. paid Gaelan 4 sh. > Sat, 30 Sep 2017 12:39:18 Agora paid V.J Rada 5 sh. > Sat, 30 Sep 2017 12:39:18 V.J Rada paid Agora 2 sh. > Sat, 30 Sep 2017 12:39:18 V.J Rada paid the Community Chest 2 sh. > Sun, 1 Oct 2017 14:57:04 P.S.S.[1] paid Agora 1 sh. > Mon, 2 Oct 2017 00:08:16 Gaelan paid Agora 1 sh. > Mon, 2 Oct 2017 01:19:38 Gaelan paid Agora 1 sh. > Tue, 3 Oct 2017 21:29:09 Agora paid G. 5 sh. > Tue, 3 Oct 2017 21:29:09 G. paid nichdel 5 sh. > - previous report - > Wed, 4 Oct 2017 01:37:30 Agora paid o 15 sh. > Wed, 4 Oct 2017 01:43:46 Agora paid G. 5 sh. > Wed, 4 Oct 2017 01:49:02 Agora paid o 5 sh. > Wed, 4 Oct 2017 04:27:27 V.J Rada destroyed a stamp (V.J Rada) for 27 sh. > Wed, 4 Oct 2017 04:27:27 V.J Rada paid the Community Chest 13 sh. > Wed, 4 Oct 2017 04:50:06 G. destroyed a stamp for 27 sh. > Wed, 4 Oct 2017 19:18:13 Agora paid G. 5 sh. > Wed, 4 Oct 2017 19:44:15 Agora paid Alexis 7 sh. > Thu, 5 Oct 2017 01:07:32 P.S.S.[1] destroyed a stamp for 27 sh. > Thu, 5 Oct 2017 01:47:41 o paid 天火狐 2 sh. > Thu, 5 Oct 2017 01:47:41 o paid G. 2 sh. > Thu, 5 Oct 2017 05:11:29 Agora paid o 5 sh. > - time of last report - > Mon, 9 Oct 2017 02:12:32 V.J Rada paid Agora 2 sh. > Mon, 9 Oct 2017 02:34:35 Agora paid V.J Rada 5 sh. > Mon, 9 Oct 2017 02:34:35 V.J Rada paid the Community Chest 2 sh. > Mon, 9 Oct 2017 02:36:25 V.J Rada paid the Community Chest 2 sh. > Tue, 10 Oct 2017 15:03:10 Agora paid 天火狐 5 sh. > Wed, 11 Oct 2017 02:18:55 o paid 天火狐 2 sh. > Wed, 11 Oct 2017 03:50:12 Agora paid V.J Rada 5 sh. > > [1] In full, "Publius Scribonius Scholasticus" > > > Personal Lockouts: None > > Global Lockout: No > > > Floating Value: 20 > > Floating Derived Values: > > NameFormula Value > - > Pend Cost 1/20 * FV 1 > CFJ Cost1/20 * FV 1 > Authorship Reward 1/40 * FV 1 > Pend Reward 1/40 * FV 1 > CFJ Reward 1/20 * FV 1 > Stamp Value 1/5 * FV4 > > > Balances: > > 20 Shinies Agora > 20 Shinies Community Chest >1 Shinies Organization >1 ShiniesASaAA > 959 Shinies Player > 51 ShiniesATMunn > 57 ShiniesAlexis > 32 ShiniesAris > 65 ShiniesCuddleBeam > 65 ShiniesG. >4 ShiniesGaelan > 50 ShiniesIenpw III > 50 ShiniesK > 50 ShiniesMurphy > 120 ShiniesPublius Scribonius Scholasticus > 50 ShiniesQuazie > 20 ShiniesTrigon > 59 ShiniesV.J Rada > 50 Shiniesbayushi > 17 Shiniesnichdel > 105 Shinieso > 50 Shiniesomd > 64 Shinies天火狐 > > Stamps: > > Made By Owned By Qty > - > ais523 Agora 2 > grok Agora 1 > oAgora 1 > Aris Aris 1 > Gaelan Gaelan 1 > Quazie Quazie 1 > nichdel nichdel2 > oo 1 > 天火狐天火狐 2 > > > Budgets: > > Player ACU ASaAA 蘭亭社 Expenditure > > nichdel50 50 > Murphy 50 50 > omd 20 20 > 天火狐 50 50 > > Income 70 50 50 170 > > ABM = The Agoran Betting Market > ACU = The Agoran Credit Union > ASaAA = Agoran Stamps and Awards Association >
BUS: Re: OFF: [Referee] Weekly Report
coe: in last week's superintendent report i pledged to include the full text of agencies in future weekly reports. also i intend to destroy my reportor pledge w/o objection as i am not the reportor. On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 3:12 PM, Owen Jacobsonwrote: > As Referee, I issue myself a Green Card by summary judgement for violating > rule > 2479. > > Referee's Weekly Report > > Date of this report: Wed, 11 Oct 2017 > Date of last report: Tue, 3 Oct 2017 > > > Recent events (all times UTC) > > Wed, 20 Sep 2017 07:45:01 o issued a Green Card for violating rule 2478 > Wed, 20 Sep 2017 08:32:54 V.J Rada pointed a finger at o for illegally > issuing > a card > Fri, 22 Sep 2017 13:33:25 o issued a Green Card for violating rule 2426 > Sat, 23 Sep 2017 04:30:57 V.J Rada pointed a finger at nichdel for breaking a > pledge > Sun, 24 Sep 2017 05:36:15 V.J Rada issued a Green Card for violating rule > 2143 > Mon, 25 Sep 2017 04:07:27 V.J Rada pointed a finger at CuddleBeam for "no > good > reason" (x2) > Tue, 26 Sep 2017 02:50:23 CuddleBeam issued a Green Card for "no good reason" > (x2) > Tue, 26 Sep 2017 02:50:23 o issued a Green Card for violating rule 2426 > - previous report - > Tue, 26 Sep 2017 21:02:30 G. pointed a finger at nichdel for violating rule > 208 > Wed, 27 Sep 2017 02:17:37 Alexis pointed a finger at P.S.S. for Tardiness > Wed, 27 Sep 2017 02:42:34 nichdel issued a Pink Slip for violating rule 208 > Wed, 27 Sep 2017 03:28:29 P.S.S.[1] issued a Green Card for violating rule > 2143 > Wed, 27 Sep 2017 14:24:12 Gaelan pointed a finger at V.J Rada for violating > rule 2471 > Tue, 3 Oct 2017 23:51:03 V.J Rada issued a Green Card for violating rule > 2471 > - time of last report - > Wed, 4 Oct 2017 01:44:46 o issued a Green Card for violating rule 2479 > Thu, 5 Oct 2017 13:43:15 ATMunn made a pledge > Sun, 8 Oct 2017 17:59:55 V.J Rada pointed a finger at Gaelan for violating > rule 2202 > Mon, 9 Oct 2017 03:16:32 Alexis pointed a finger at Aris for failing to > distribute proposals > Mon, 9 Oct 2017 20:11:48 o withdrew a pledge > Wed, 11 Oct 2017 01:48:14 Aris issued a Green Card for violating rule 2143 > Wed, 11 Oct 2017 04:02:04 V.J Rada made a pledge > Wed, 11 Oct 2017 04:06:41 Finger pointed at Gaelan found to be Shenanigans > > [1] Named, in full, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus. > > > Green Cards: > > Player On Reason > --- > P.S.S.[1]May 16, 2017 Tardiness > P.S.S.[1]May 20, 2017 Ambiguity > Murphy Jun 22, 2017 Faking > Gaelan Jun 23, 2017 Tardiness > Gaelan Jun 23, 2017 Tardiness > oJul 11, 2017 Tardiness > V.J Rada Jul 14, 2017 Making My Eyes Bleed > oJul 18, 2017 Tardiness > oJul 29, 2017 Tardiness > Gaelan Jul 29, 2017 Late Judgement > oSep 4, 2017 Rule 2498 > Quazie Sep 7, 2017 Rule 2201 > 天火狐Sep 12, 2017 No reason > oSep 12, 2017 Rule 2426 > oSep 12, 2017 Rule 2478 > V.J Rada Sep 15, 2017 Rule 2496 > nichdel Sep 20, 2017 Rule 2450 > oSep 20, 2017 Rule 2478 > oSep 22, 2017 Rule 2426 > V.J Rada Sep 24, 2017 Rule 2143 > CuddleBeam Sep 26, 2017 No reason > CuddleBeam Sep 26, 2017 No reason > oSep 26, 2017 Rule 2426 > P.S.S.[1]Sep 27, 2017 Rule 2143 > V.J Rada Oct 3, 2017 Rule 2471 > oOct 4, 2017 Rule 2479 > Aris Oct 11, 2017 Rule 2143 > > [1] Named, in full, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus. > > > Yellow Cards: > > PlayerUntil Reason Apology Words > --- > Quazie (Apr 26, 2017) Bankruptcy > o(Apr 22, 2017) Tardiness > o(Jul 15, 2017) Tardiness > o(Jul 15, 2017) Tardiness > CuddleBeamJul 16, 2017 Tardiness > P.S.S.[1] Sep 15, 2017 Rule 2143 > o(Aug 23, 2017) Rule 2491 > Quazie (Sep 13, 2017) Rule 2450 > V.J Rada (Sep 15, 2017) Being bad > > [1] Named, in full, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus. > > Dates in (parentheses) indicate a completed apology. > > > Red Cards: > > Player On Reason > -- > Cuddlebeam Jul 21, 2017 Faking > > > Pink Slips: > > Player On Office Reason > > Gaelan May 22, 2017 Rulekeepor Forgery > nichdel Sep 27, 2017 Assessor Rule 208 > > > Pledges: > > Quazie - >I pledge to give 1 Shiny to the first person who can, >correctly, with e-mail citations, explain what I did wrong on >Jan 20th 2009 that has since led
Re: BUS: MIME Abuse
> On Oct 8, 2017, at 2:59 AM, VJ Radawrote: > > I point a finger at Gaelan for not stating the black ribbon > ratification was a lie. I find this finger-pointing to be Shenanigans. Gaelan never successfully used, or announced intent to use, ratification on the document stating that e has a black ribbon. -o signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP
BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3572 assigned to o
On Sun, 8 Oct 2017, VJ Rada wrote: > I call an AP CFJ: With the below message, Gaelan won by apathy. The “below message” quotes a pair of mime/multipart message constructed to contain multiple documents, many of which appear outside of the respective message’s sole text/plain part. I will explain the relevance of this observation below. On Oct 8, 2017, at 1:52 PM, Kerim Aydinwrote: > The below is CFJ 3572 I assign it to o. I had a look at each of Gaelan’s messages in multiple mail viewing systems. In Apple Mail (my mailer of choice), Gaelan’s messages appear as ordinary email messages. The message titled ‘BUS: Intent’ appears to have the contents > I intend with 24 Hours notice to destroy the agency MKD. Nobody's ever used > it, and it doesn't seem worth keeping around. The message titled ‘ BUS: [Proposal] Another Economy Fix Attempt’ appears to have the contents > I create this proposal and pend it with AP: > > --- > Name: Another Economy Fix Attempt > Author: Gaelan > AI: 1.0 > > Create a power-1 rule titled "Keep it up" with the following text: > === > If an action defined entirely by the rules that would otherwise be > POSSIBLE for a player to perform is IMPOSSIBLE due to Agora having a > low shiny balance, that player may win the game with 2 Days Notice. > Upon doing so, half of all player's shiny balances (rounded down) are > transferred to Agora. > === > — There is no indication that either message contains multiple parts, or any indication that those parts might differ from the displayed part. The messages are displayed similarly in Mozilla Thunderbird, Gmail, Google Inbox, as well as both the mail-archive public archive of agora-business (https://www.mail-archive.com/agora-business@agoranomic.org/msg29760.html; the other is missing). In mail readers that provide access to the “raw” email message, the hidden parts can be discovered, but this is not an ordinary part of the mail-reading process for the overwhelming majority of users. The Mailman archive of agora-business displays Gaelan’s messages differently. One is missing, but for the message that is present, the Mailman archive includes a warning that “a non-text attachment was scrubbed”, and provides a download link for the text/agora-action part of the message. It is clear from experimentation that it takes exceptional effort to discover the portion of Gaelan’s messages contained in the non-“text/plain” portions of eir emails. It’s also likely, based on Gaelan’s subsequent actions, and on the specific actions e selected to include in the non-“text/plain” portions of eir emails, that Gaelan was relying on this exceptional effort to prevent Agorans from interfering with the execution of those actions by objecting. I personally believe that Gaelan intentionally hid those messages so that they would go unremarked until such time as e could finalize the intents they contain. CFJ 1460 provides some guidance: > This is a rather roundabout way of saying that submitting a purported > communication to an officer in a language one has no reason to believe > that officer understands, and which, as it turns out, the officer does > not understand, violates the Gricean maxims > >(4) Avoid obscurity of expression. and >(5) Avoid ambiguity. > > Such a purported communication does not communicate, and so it would not > be unreasonable to hold that the purported communication is no > communication at all. > > I therefore hold that an Agoran player need not regard, nor be required > to act upon, a message written in a language e does not understand, > whether or not it is sent to a public forum. However, Gaelan’s “hidden” messages do not require any player to act on them, indirectly. They are > I intend without objection to Win By Apathy, specifying myself. and > I intend to ratify the following document without Objection: {{ Gaelan has a > black ribbon. }} Under ordinary circumstances, an intent to perform an action without objection is effective, and can be resolved, whether or not any player takes any action with regards to the intent. Gaelan resolved both intents - and allegedly won the game, as well as ratifying a document affecting the Tailor’s report - in messages unambiguously understandable to the relevant players; only the action of announcing intention was done in “hidden” messages. While the rules do not specifically define “an announcement of intent”, rule 478 (“Fora”) defines what it means to announce something: > A public message is a message sent via a public forum, or sent to all players > and containing a clear designation of intent to be public. A rule can also > designate that a part of one public message is considered a public message in > its own right. A person "publishes" or "announces" something by sending a > public message. Note the use of “a clear designation of intent.” I hold that Gaelan’s messages were unclear. The public forum in
Re: BUS: Creating and Revoking Agencies
I intend to create this agency and pledge not to resolve the first intent. Name: Outsourcing Rada's Personhood Abbreviation: ORP Head: VJ Rada Agents: All persons Powers: IMMUTABLE POWERS Agents of this agency have the power to intend to amend and to amend this agency on behalf of VJ Rada. These amendments may not give anyone the power to deregister VJ Rada, and they may not alter any text in the Immutable Powers section of this agency, without VJ Rada's explicit consent (acting as himself, from the email address vijar...@gmail.com). MUTABLE POWERS On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 3:01 PM, VJ Radawrote: > I intend to create this agency. > > Name: Outsourcing Rada's Personhood > Abbreviation: ORP > Head: VJ Rada > Agents: All persons > Powers: > IMMUTABLE POWERS > Agents of this agency have the power to intend to amend and to amend > this agency on behalf of VJ Rada. These amendments may not give anyone > the power to deregister VJ Rada, and they may not alter any text in > the Immutable Powers section of this agency, without VJ Rada's > explicit consent (acting as himself, from the email adress > vijar...@gmail.com). > MUTABLE POWERS > > On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 2:59 PM, VJ Rada wrote: >> I therefore intend to revoke my agency FPK. >> >> I also intend to create this agency >> >> Name: Outsourcing My Personhood >> Abbreviation: ?(4 >> Head: VJ Rada >> Agents: All persons >> Powers: >> IMMUTABLE POWERS >> Agents of this agency have the power to intend to amend and to amend >> this agency on behalf of VJ Rada. These amendments may not give anyone >> the power to deregister VJ Rada, and they may not alter any text in >> the Immutable Powers section of this agency, without VJ Rada's >> explicit consent (acting as himself, from the email adress >> vijar...@gmail.com). >> MUTABLE POWERS >> >> -- >> From V.J. Rada > > > > -- > From V.J. Rada -- >From V.J. Rada
BUS: Creating and Revoking Agencies
I therefore intend to revoke my agency FPK. I also intend to create this agency Name: Outsourcing My Personhood Abbreviation: ?(4 Head: VJ Rada Agents: All persons Powers: IMMUTABLE POWERS Agents of this agency have the power to intend to amend and to amend this agency on behalf of VJ Rada. These amendments may not give anyone the power to deregister VJ Rada, and they may not alter any text in the Immutable Powers section of this agency, without VJ Rada's explicit consent (acting as himself, from the email adress vijar...@gmail.com). MUTABLE POWERS -- >From V.J. Rada
BUS: Re: OFF: [Superintendent] Real Weekly Report
I cause myself to receive 5 shinies as an award for this. On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 2:46 PM, VJ Radawrote: > Bringing back EOH, which contrary to my previous listings, does indeed > still exist. Also no more MKD. Otherwise, no changes. > > I accept o's CoE (which of course, is not a real CoE because none of > this self-ratifies) and publish the below report, which is the weekly > report of the Superintendent. > > NOTE: .Ben Öyle Öneriyorum and G: Overlord of Dunce are disputed > agencies and may not, in fact, exist. > EVENTS > 2017-10-08: Gaelan revokes MKD > 2017-09-21: Quazie revokes QAZ > 2017-09-12: V.J. Rada establishes FPK > 2017-08-26 - 天火狐 establishes 狐票店 > 2017-08-21 - Quazie establishes QAZ > 2017-07-24 - grok establishes gPA > 2017-07-21 - Cuddlebeam deregisters, revoking C♥️U and C♥️N > 2017-06-26 - Nichdel establishes EOH > 2017-06-05 - Quazie establishes BÖÖ > 2017-06-04 - Publius Scribonius Scholasticus establishes ASC > 2017-05-27 - Gaelan establishes GII > 2017-05-27 - CuddleBeam establishes C♥️U > 2017-05-27 - CuddleBeam establishes C♥️N > 2017-05-27 - CuddleBeam revokes BGW > 2017-05-27 - CuddleBeam revokes ACP > 2017-05-24 - grok establishes gFP > 2017-05-23 - 天火狐 establishes ⌑შए > 2017-05-23 - Publius Scribonius Scholasticus establishes PRN > 2017-05-22 - Quazie establishes WTQ > 2017-05-22 - CuddleBeam establishes ACP > 2017-05-22 - CuddleBeam establishes BGW > 2017-05-20 - Publius Scribonius Scholasticus establishes SSP > 2017-05-20 - Gaelan establishes MKD > 2017-05-20 - Quazie establishes GOD > 2017-04-23 - Aris revokes PDA > 2017-02-13 - Aris establishes PDA > > AGENCIES > Now helpfully ordered by their date of establishment! > __ > G: Overlord of Dunce (GOD) > Head: Quazie > Agents: G. > Powers: 1 - The ability to give notice to establish Agencies with > Quazie as the Director or Head and G. as the only agent > 2 - The ability to establish Agencies with Quazie as the Director or > Head and G. as the only agent > ___ > Scribonius Scholasticus and the Pledges (SSP) > Head: Publius Scribonius Scholasticus > Agents: All Players > Powers: If Publius Scribonius Scholasticus makes a pledge in which e > pledges X Shinies in return for an action or statement, the first > player to fulfill the action/statement in the pledge can transfer X > Shinies from Publius Scribonius Scholasticus to emself. > ___ > Who Trusts Quazie (WTQ) > Head: Quazie > Agents: All Players > Powers: If a player issues Quazie a Trust Token from emself, then > they may issue emself a Trust Token from Quazie > __ > Publius Registers for Nomic (PRN) > Head: Publius Scribonius Scholasticus > Agents: All Persons > Powers: If Publius Scribonius Scholasticus is not a player, any > person may register em as a player. > __ > ⌑≌⋻ შეესაბამება एजेन्सी (⌑შए) > Head: 天火狐 > Agents: All persons > Powers: Any person may refer to this Agency by another name, provided > that it is unambiguous. Given that the transliteration of the name, > UShE is recommended. > ___ > grok's Favorite Player (gFP) > Head: grok > Agents: All players > Powers: 1) gFP has a single Name switch. gFP's Name switch can only > be flipped by the Director of gFP. The legal values for the Name > switch are the name of any single registered Player as defined by > Rule 869. If the text of a player's name includes the words > "deregister," "de-register," "announce," "intend," or any > conjugation of or direct variation on those words, it is not a legal > value. > > 2) Once per Agoran week, if an agent either writes a Kind Message > about grok in any public forum or gives grok 3 shinies, that agent > may act on behalf of grok to flip gFP's Name switch to any legal > position. > > 3) If a player that has never given grok a Trust Token gives grok a > Trust Token, that player may act on behalf of grok to flip gFP's > Name switch to any legal position once. > > 4) grok is the Director and Head of gFP. > __ > > Gaelan Is Impatient (GII) > Head: Gaelan > Agents: All Players > Powers: Perform any actions Gaelan has listed as Performable By > Agency, subject to any restrictions e has specified in that > announcement, if Gaelan has not specified more than 24 hours prior > that the action is no longer Performable By Agency. > __ > Agoran SubNomic Corporation (ASC) > Head: Publius Scribonius Scholasticus > Agents: All persons > Powers: Participation is a type of negative boolean person switch, > like
BUS: Re: OFF: [Superintendent] Weekly Report
Just to be completely sure: > On Oct 10, 2017, at 11:24 PM, VJ Radawrote: > > I had assumed this report self-ratified, and therefore that EOH was no > longer an agency. But of course, it doesn't, so EOH remains an agency. > MKD has also been revoked. Otherwise, this is the same as my previous > report. CoE: this report omits several agencies. -o signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP
Re: BUS: [Surveyor] October Estate Auction
> On Oct 3, 2017, at 7:30 PM, Owen Jacobsonwrote: > > Hi folks! Sorry about the delay getting this going, and on the reports. I’ve > come down with a nasty head cold and it’s knocked the wind right out of me. > I’ll try to get caught up on my office duties this evening and tomorrow, so > that I don’t miss any deadlines, but your patience is much appreciated. > > As Surveyor, it is my pleasure to annouce that the October estate auction, > for the estate of Dawsbergen, has begun. > > For those of you who are new, please review Rule 2491 (“Estate Auctions”). In > summary: > > * Bids may only be placed by announcement. > * Players may bid on their own behalf, to win the Estate for themselves. > * Players may bid on behalf of any Organization whose charter makes such a > bid Appropriate, to win the Estate for that Organization. > > The auction will end in exactly seven days. This auction ended at Tue, 10 Oct 2017 19:30:33 -0400, with the following bids: * o, 1 sh., for emself. * o, 80 sh., for emself. (Incuded a blurb.) * G., 1,010 sh. for emself. G. wins the auction. G., you have seven days to pay Agora to acquire the Estate of Dawsbergen. > As is my custom, I pledge as follows: > > * If there is exactly one winning bid, and if that bid includes a blurb > describing the region of Dawsbergen, of at least 70 words, I will include > that blurb in at least one future Surveyor’s report if it is possible for me > to do so. I will pay the lesser of 10% of the winning bid, rounded up, or 50 > Shinies, to the player who made the bid, i immediately after resolving the > auction. I have an outstanding intent to withdraw this pledge. However, I’ll hold off for a day or so to give people a chance to evaluate my wording change and my actions in this message. I _believe_ I reworded my pledge a bit relative to last month to avoid being obligated to pay players who do not submit blurbs; G.’s bid did not include a blurb, so I believe I did not pledge to pay em any amount of shinies. -o signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP
BUS: Re: OFF: [Reportor] Agora Sky News vol 3
I pay 天火狐 2 sh. -o signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP
Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] ADoP and Prime Minister Elections
On Tue, 10 Oct 2017, Owen Jacobson wrote: > In the decision to elect an associate director of personnel, I vote for V.J > Rada. > > In the decision to elect a prime minister, I vote for Alexis, then G., then > nichdel. I retract any previous votes in both elections, and vote as o does. (er, unconditionally).
BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7908-7921
I vote as follows: > ID Author(s) AI TitlePender Pend fee > --- > 7908* G.1.0 Silly season G. OP [1] FOR. Looking forwards to the CFJs on the hideousness of various puns. > 7909* G.1.2 No Lockout G. OP [1] FOR, with some reservations. Action by the Fearmonger is an odd way to repeal parts of Organizations, but I’m in favour anyways. > 7910* G.1.0 What is a rulekeepor G. OP [1] AGAINST. Obviously daft. Excellent Fearmongery, though. > 7911* V.J. Rada 1.0 Infinite Money Fix V.J. Rada 1 sh. FOR. This is an uneventful reinstatement of a previous bugfix. It’s probably even my fault that it got un-fixed. > 7912* Alexis3.0 Election Campaigns Alexis 1 AP [2] FOR. The fix for electing empty offices is much needed. Campaign proposals are an interesting hack, and my scam sense is tingling, but if there is a scam here I can’t find it. > 7913* ATMunn1.0 Cheer Up v7? ATMunn 1 AP FOR. Congrats to ATMunn for eir first proposal. As I said in my review, the mechanic is small, but has an interesting flavour. > 7914* o 1.0 SFDVP [3]o 1 AP FOR. > 7915* CuddleBeam1.0 Terrifying Proposals Reward CuddleBeam 1 AP AGAINST. I don’t think this does what CB intended: “gain 3 Stamps from Agora” strongly implies that those must be stamps already owned by Agora, which is something of a rarity. > 7916* Aris, o, G. 1.0 Pro Pace v2 Aris1 AP FOR. Thanks to both G. and Aris for hearing me out on this. > 7917* P.S.S. [4], o 3.0 Banking P.S.S. [4] 1 sh. PRESENT. > 7918* P.S.S. [4]3.0 Vacant Deputisation Fix P.S.S. [4] 1 AP FOR. As with 7912, this is a much-needed fix for vacancies. The two proposals appear to interact reasonably well. > 7919* P.S.S. [4]2.0 YSUIII. [5] P.S.S. [4] 1 AP AGAINST. We should fix rules where this bug arises, instead. > 7920* Gaelan, Aris 1.0 The Lint Screen v2 Gaelan 1 sh. PRESENT. I suspect this is impractical, per Alexis’ overarching complaints about platonic outcomes from subjective judgements. A refund mechanism for linty proposals might be more fitting. > 7921* o, G. 2.0 Passive Income o 1 AP FOR. Shut up and take my money. -o signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP
BUS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] ADoP and Prime Minister Elections
> On Oct 8, 2017, at 11:18 PM, VJ Radawrote: > > Hey, if you're commending me for one thing as ADoP, I've been very > very good about initiating and resolving elections. I'm not sure why > G. didn't intiate for ADoP, the nexus of all this "misrule". I > initiate an election for ADoP. I initiate the Agoran decisions for the > determination of the new ADoP and Prime Minister. The quorum is 3.0, > the vote collector is the ADoP (I will remain in office to count this, > obviously). It's instant-runoff. In the decision to elect an associate director of personnel, I vote for V.J Rada. In the decision to elect a prime minister, I vote for Alexis, then G., then nichdel. -o signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP
Re: BUS: Finger pointing
On Oct 8, 2017, at 11:16 PM, Alexis Huntwrote: > I Point a Finger at Aris for failing to distribute proposals last week. Upheld. However, as the obvious remedy has been applied, and the omission appears to have been accidental in nature, I issue Aris a Green Card for violating rule 2143 with respect to the Promotor’s weekly duties. -o signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP
Re: BUS: [Secretary] Innocent Mistake Ratification
> On Oct 5, 2017, at 2:07 AM, Owen Jacobsonwrote: > > >> On Oct 5, 2017, at 1:28 AM, Owen Jacobson wrote: >> >> I intend, without objection, to ratify that, at the moment the Secretary >> published eir purported Weekly Report on October 3rd, the Floating Value was >> as follows: >> >> { >> Floating Value: 132 >> } > > Based on feedback, I’m abandoning this intent. Instead, I intend to ratify > the portion of the Secretary’s weekly report, published October 3rd of this > year, that reads as follows: > > { > Floating Value: 132 > } I do so. -o signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP
BUS: Re: OFF: [Reportor] Agora Sky News vol 3
I claim a reward of 5 shiny for the quoted report. 天火狐 On 10 October 2017 at 10:45, Josh Twrote: > > > = Agora Sky News > === > == > vol. 3 == > >Agoran Postal Records Amiss! > > It has come to light of the Agoran public that it is possible to backdate > mail > that is circulated to other Agorans. This practice, while not explicitly > illegal, > is greatly frowened upon by the upstanding citizens of Agora and this > under- > handed tactic should be relegated to thought experiments and unscrupulous > folk. > It is paramount for the function of the nation that such should not be > tampered > with as, as it is with many other nations of the world, a great fine to > tamper > with the workings of the post. > 天火狐 > > Conditional Votes Broken? > > A recent ruling has stated that conditional voting, where one may > predicate eir > vote on some other conditions, may be invalid. This has caused no little > amount > of confusion and dissent, and the specific resolution of the issue remains > murky. We would recommend, to avoid this issue, vote in a clear manner for > the > time being to ensure your voice is counted. > 天火狐 > >Other Events of Note > >* ADoP and Prime Minister Elections >* Auction of Dawsbergen >* Ongoing criminal system reform >* Karma initiated > 天火狐 >