Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposal 8049

2018-05-13 Thread Aris Merchant
I vote AGAINST. The proposal is broken, due to an unclouded quote. If we
try this, it should include changing the names of resources and facilities
as well.

-Aris

On Sun, May 13, 2018 at 9:10 PM Reuben Staley 
wrote:

> I vote AGAINST and strongly encourage others to vote against as well, since
> this proposal was a joke and was clearly very poorly executed.
>
> On Sun, May 13, 2018, 22:04 Ned Strange  wrote:
>
> > I vote FOR (and use the zombie rule to have PSS do so).
> >
> > I have PSS transfer all eir assets to me.
> >
> > On Mon, May 14, 2018 at 12:43 PM, Aris Merchant <
> > thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > [Apologies for any errors. I am buried in work right now.]
> > >
> > > I hereby distribute each listed proposal, initiating the Agoran
> > > Decision of whether to adopt it, and removing it from the proposal
> > > pool. For this decision, the vote collector is the Assessor, the
> > > quorum is 7.0, the voting method is AI-majority and the valid options
> > > are FOR and AGAINST (PRESENT is also a valid vote, as are conditional
> > > votes).
> > >
> > > ID Author(s)  AI   Title Pender
> > > 
> > > ---
> > > 8049*  Trigon 2.6  be with you   Trigon
> > >
> > > The proposal pool currently contains the following proposals:
> > >
> > > ID Author(s)AI Title
> > > 
> > > ---
> > > pp1Corona   1.0go, Go! v2
> > >
> > > Legend: * : Proposal is pending.
> > >
> > > The full text of the aforementioned proposals is included below.
> > >
> > > //
> > > ID: 8049
> > > Title: be with you
> > > Adoption index: 2.6
> > > Author: Trigon
> > > Co-authors:
> > >
> > >
> > > For the following proposal, the syntax X -> Y is shorthand for "Replace
> > > X with Y in ascending numerical order.
> > >
> > > The Land of Arcadia -> The Galaxy of Arcadia
> > > Map -> Starmap
> > > Unit of Land, Land Unit -> Planet
> > > Units of Land, Land Units -> Planets
> > > Unit of T Land -> T Planet
> > > Units of T Land -> T Planets
> > > Land Type -> Planet Type
> > > Cartographor -> Astrocartographor
> > >
> > > If e is not already, make Trigon the Astrocartographor.
> > >
> > >
> > > //
> > > ID: pp1
> > > Title: go, Go! v2
> > > Adoption index: 1.0
> > > Author: Corona
> > > Co-authors:
> > > Note: Text enclosed in square brackets is not part of the proposal.
> > >
> > >
> > > [This proposal implements a 3 coin, 2 apple reward for each captured
> > > stone, possibly livening up the board]
> > >
> > > Amend the rule 1998 "Land Topology" to read in full:
> > >
> > > Two Units of Land are Adjacent if they have the same Latitude, and
> their
> > > Longitudes differ by exactly one; or they have the same Longitude, and
> > > their Latitudes differ by exactly one.
> > >
> > > Land Unit A is said to be connected to Land Unit B if it is possible to
> > > reach B by moving only to adjacent Land Units of the same Land Type,
> > > starting from A.
> > >
> > > [Here I changed color to Land Type, as color is not defined. So far, it
> > > didn't break anything, as no LUs were to be changed into Aether]
> > >
> > > A set Land Units is said to be a Subgroup if all of these Land Units
> have
> > > the same Land Type are connected to each other.
> > >
> > > A Subgroup is said to be a Group if no set exists such that:
> > > 1) Its elements are all Land Units of that Subgroup and at least one
> Land
> > > Unit not an element of that Subgroup.
> > > 2) It is a Subgroup.
> > >
> > > [Group = a group of stones in Go]
> > >
> > > Amend the rule 2022 "Land Transfiguration" to read in full:
> > >
> > > [Changing it so that it happens automatically]
> > >
> > > At the end of the second Eastman week of each Agoran Month, the
> following
> > > happens in sequence:
> > >
> > >   1. Every Land Unit, with a preservation switch of False that is not
> > >  directly connected to a unit of Aether, or is not connected by its
> > >  own type to a unit of Aether, shall be transformed to Aether.
> > >
> > >  For every Land Unit that has its type changed to Aether by this
> > >  procedure, the player who most recently changed the Land Type of
> any
> > >  Land Unit such that it is an element of the Full Group of the
> > > transformed
> > >  Land Unit or adjacent to any of the Land Units of the Full Group
> of
> > > the
> > >  transformed Land Unit, among the players who aren't Cartographor,
> > > receives
> > >  3 coins and 2 apples.
> > >
> > >   2. Any entities whose locations are on land units so transformed
> > >  shall have their locations set to (0, 0).
> > >
> > >   3. If any land unit so transformed is not property of Agora, it
> > >  becomes pro

Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposal 8049

2018-05-13 Thread Reuben Staley
I vote AGAINST and strongly encourage others to vote against as well, since
this proposal was a joke and was clearly very poorly executed.

On Sun, May 13, 2018, 22:04 Ned Strange  wrote:

> I vote FOR (and use the zombie rule to have PSS do so).
>
> I have PSS transfer all eir assets to me.
>
> On Mon, May 14, 2018 at 12:43 PM, Aris Merchant <
> thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > [Apologies for any errors. I am buried in work right now.]
> >
> > I hereby distribute each listed proposal, initiating the Agoran
> > Decision of whether to adopt it, and removing it from the proposal
> > pool. For this decision, the vote collector is the Assessor, the
> > quorum is 7.0, the voting method is AI-majority and the valid options
> > are FOR and AGAINST (PRESENT is also a valid vote, as are conditional
> > votes).
> >
> > ID Author(s)  AI   Title Pender
> > 
> > ---
> > 8049*  Trigon 2.6  be with you   Trigon
> >
> > The proposal pool currently contains the following proposals:
> >
> > ID Author(s)AI Title
> > 
> > ---
> > pp1Corona   1.0go, Go! v2
> >
> > Legend: * : Proposal is pending.
> >
> > The full text of the aforementioned proposals is included below.
> >
> > //
> > ID: 8049
> > Title: be with you
> > Adoption index: 2.6
> > Author: Trigon
> > Co-authors:
> >
> >
> > For the following proposal, the syntax X -> Y is shorthand for "Replace
> > X with Y in ascending numerical order.
> >
> > The Land of Arcadia -> The Galaxy of Arcadia
> > Map -> Starmap
> > Unit of Land, Land Unit -> Planet
> > Units of Land, Land Units -> Planets
> > Unit of T Land -> T Planet
> > Units of T Land -> T Planets
> > Land Type -> Planet Type
> > Cartographor -> Astrocartographor
> >
> > If e is not already, make Trigon the Astrocartographor.
> >
> >
> > //
> > ID: pp1
> > Title: go, Go! v2
> > Adoption index: 1.0
> > Author: Corona
> > Co-authors:
> > Note: Text enclosed in square brackets is not part of the proposal.
> >
> >
> > [This proposal implements a 3 coin, 2 apple reward for each captured
> > stone, possibly livening up the board]
> >
> > Amend the rule 1998 "Land Topology" to read in full:
> >
> > Two Units of Land are Adjacent if they have the same Latitude, and their
> > Longitudes differ by exactly one; or they have the same Longitude, and
> > their Latitudes differ by exactly one.
> >
> > Land Unit A is said to be connected to Land Unit B if it is possible to
> > reach B by moving only to adjacent Land Units of the same Land Type,
> > starting from A.
> >
> > [Here I changed color to Land Type, as color is not defined. So far, it
> > didn't break anything, as no LUs were to be changed into Aether]
> >
> > A set Land Units is said to be a Subgroup if all of these Land Units have
> > the same Land Type are connected to each other.
> >
> > A Subgroup is said to be a Group if no set exists such that:
> > 1) Its elements are all Land Units of that Subgroup and at least one Land
> > Unit not an element of that Subgroup.
> > 2) It is a Subgroup.
> >
> > [Group = a group of stones in Go]
> >
> > Amend the rule 2022 "Land Transfiguration" to read in full:
> >
> > [Changing it so that it happens automatically]
> >
> > At the end of the second Eastman week of each Agoran Month, the following
> > happens in sequence:
> >
> >   1. Every Land Unit, with a preservation switch of False that is not
> >  directly connected to a unit of Aether, or is not connected by its
> >  own type to a unit of Aether, shall be transformed to Aether.
> >
> >  For every Land Unit that has its type changed to Aether by this
> >  procedure, the player who most recently changed the Land Type of any
> >  Land Unit such that it is an element of the Full Group of the
> > transformed
> >  Land Unit or adjacent to any of the Land Units of the Full Group of
> > the
> >  transformed Land Unit, among the players who aren't Cartographor,
> > receives
> >  3 coins and 2 apples.
> >
> >   2. Any entities whose locations are on land units so transformed
> >  shall have their locations set to (0, 0).
> >
> >   3. If any land unit so transformed is not property of Agora, it
> >  becomes property of Agora.
> >
> >   The Cartographor SHALL announce all of these changes in a timely
> manner.
> >
> > //
> >
>
>
>
> --
> From V.J. Rada
>


BUS: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Weekly Report

2018-05-13 Thread Ned Strange
I poiint a finger at G. for not publishing a Registrar report last week.

On Sat, May 5, 2018 at 4:42 AM, Kerim Aydin  wrote:

>
>
> 
> 
>  Registrar's Weekly Report
> 
> 
>
> Date of last report: 27 Apr 2018
> Date of this report: 04 May 2018
> (all times UTC)
>
> (इसका पता लगाएं, मेल क्लाइंट edition)
>
> Recent Events (recent events section not ratifying)
>   01-Apr-18 20:41:27   G. flips Publius Scribonius Scholasticus' master
>switch to Agora.
>   02-Apr-18 17:42:50   Zombie auction begins for pokes, o, Publius
>Scribonius Scholasticus, nichdel, Quazie
>   03-Apr-18 15:14:11   Ouri registers.  Welcome, Ouri!
>   09-Apr-18 17:42:50   Zombie auction ends.
>   09-Apr-18 17:55:58   omd pays auction price of 21 coins for the zombie
>pokes.
>   09-Apr-18 17:55:58   G. pays auction price of 21 coins for the zombie o.
>   09-Apr-18 17:55:58   Registrar flips pokes' master switch to omd.
>   09-Apr-18 17:55:58   Registrar flips o's master switch to G.
>   10-Apr-18 01:12:02   V.J. Rada pays auction price of 12 coins for the
>zombie Publius Scribonius Scholasticus.
>   10-Apr-18 01:31:35   Registrar flips Publius Scribonius Scholasticus'
>master switch to V.J. Rada.
>   10-Apr-18 05:23:17   Corona pays auction price of 5 coins for the zombie
>Quazie.
>   10-Apr-18 05:36:54   Registrar flips Quazie's master switch to Corona.
>   10-Apr-18 13:28:06   ATMunn pays auction price of 10 coins for nichdel.
>   10-Apr-18 13:35:34   Registrar flips nichdel's master switch to ATMunn.
>   17-Apr-18 21:34:31   Trigon flips 天火狐's master switch to Agora.
>   17-Apr-18 21:34:31   Trigon flips Telnaior's master switch to Agora.
>
>   (time of last report)
>
>
> Players (19) (by Rule 869, Persons with 'Registered' Citizenship, z=zombie)
>
>  Player   Contact
>  Registered
>  --   ---
>  --
>  Aris thoughtsoflifeandlight17 at gmail.com   13 Sep
> 16
>  Gaelan   gbs at canishe.com  15 May
> 17
>  G.   kerim at u.washington.edu   25 Aug
> 17
>  Cuddle Beam  cuddlebeam at gmail.com 25 Aug
> 17
>  Trigon   reuben.staley at gmail.com  24 Sep
> 17
>  Corona   liliumalbum.agora at gmail.com  17 Nov
> 17
>  Murphy   emurphy42 at zoho.com   17 Dec
> 17
>  VJ Rada  edwardostrange at gmail.com 29 Dec
> 17
>  Kenyon   kprater3.14 at gmail.com27 Feb
> 18
>  ATMunn   iamingodsarmy at gmail.com  11 Mar
> 18
>  Ouri ouri.poupko at gmail.com03 Apr
> 18
>   z  omd  comexk at gmail.com [3] 03 Feb
> 11
>   z  oowen at grimoire.ca 12 Jul
> 16
>   z  Quazie   quazienomic at gmail.com15 Apr
> 17
>   z  P. Scholasticus [1]  pscriboniusscholasticus at gmail.com[2] 16 Apr
> 17
>   z  nichdel  nichdel at gmail.com29 Jun
> 17
>   z  pokespokes at botnoise.org   11 Dec
> 17
>   z  天火狐draconicdarkness at gmail.com   06 Nov 16
>   z  Telnaior jdga at iinet.net.au20 Oct
> 17
>
> [1] In full, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
> [2] officially, but technically equivalent p.scribonius.scholasticus at
> googlemail.com
> [3] officially, but technically equivalent c.ome.xk at gmail.com
>
>
> Non-default Master Switches (Player:value, self-ratifying)
>
>  omd  : G.
>  Quazie   : Corona
>  nichdel  : ATMunn
>  o: G.
>  pokes: omd
>  Publius Scribonius Scholasticus: V.J. Rada
>  Telnaior : Agora
>  天火狐: Agora
>
>
> Non-default Emotion Switches (Player:value, self-ratifying)
>
>  nichdel : Joyous
>  Alexis  : Melancholy
>  ATMunn  : Joyous (November 14, 2017)
>  PSS : Melancholy
>  G.  : Melancholy (November 17, 2017)
>  Trigon  : Melancholy
>  VJ Rada : Melancholy (November 17, 2017)
>
>
> Fora (Rule 478, self-ratifying)
>
>  Type Location  Typical use
>    ---
>  Public   agora-official at agoranomic.org  official reports
>  Public   agora-business at agoranomic.org  other business
>  Discussion   agora-discussion at agoranomic.orgdiscussion
>  Discussion   irc://irc.freenode.net:6667/##nomic   discussion
>  Public   agora at listserver.tue.nlbackup
>
> Subs

BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposal 8049

2018-05-13 Thread Ned Strange
I vote FOR (and use the zombie rule to have PSS do so).

I have PSS transfer all eir assets to me.

On Mon, May 14, 2018 at 12:43 PM, Aris Merchant <
thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote:

> [Apologies for any errors. I am buried in work right now.]
>
> I hereby distribute each listed proposal, initiating the Agoran
> Decision of whether to adopt it, and removing it from the proposal
> pool. For this decision, the vote collector is the Assessor, the
> quorum is 7.0, the voting method is AI-majority and the valid options
> are FOR and AGAINST (PRESENT is also a valid vote, as are conditional
> votes).
>
> ID Author(s)  AI   Title Pender
> 
> ---
> 8049*  Trigon 2.6  be with you   Trigon
>
> The proposal pool currently contains the following proposals:
>
> ID Author(s)AI Title
> 
> ---
> pp1Corona   1.0go, Go! v2
>
> Legend: * : Proposal is pending.
>
> The full text of the aforementioned proposals is included below.
>
> //
> ID: 8049
> Title: be with you
> Adoption index: 2.6
> Author: Trigon
> Co-authors:
>
>
> For the following proposal, the syntax X -> Y is shorthand for "Replace
> X with Y in ascending numerical order.
>
> The Land of Arcadia -> The Galaxy of Arcadia
> Map -> Starmap
> Unit of Land, Land Unit -> Planet
> Units of Land, Land Units -> Planets
> Unit of T Land -> T Planet
> Units of T Land -> T Planets
> Land Type -> Planet Type
> Cartographor -> Astrocartographor
>
> If e is not already, make Trigon the Astrocartographor.
>
>
> //
> ID: pp1
> Title: go, Go! v2
> Adoption index: 1.0
> Author: Corona
> Co-authors:
> Note: Text enclosed in square brackets is not part of the proposal.
>
>
> [This proposal implements a 3 coin, 2 apple reward for each captured
> stone, possibly livening up the board]
>
> Amend the rule 1998 "Land Topology" to read in full:
>
> Two Units of Land are Adjacent if they have the same Latitude, and their
> Longitudes differ by exactly one; or they have the same Longitude, and
> their Latitudes differ by exactly one.
>
> Land Unit A is said to be connected to Land Unit B if it is possible to
> reach B by moving only to adjacent Land Units of the same Land Type,
> starting from A.
>
> [Here I changed color to Land Type, as color is not defined. So far, it
> didn't break anything, as no LUs were to be changed into Aether]
>
> A set Land Units is said to be a Subgroup if all of these Land Units have
> the same Land Type are connected to each other.
>
> A Subgroup is said to be a Group if no set exists such that:
> 1) Its elements are all Land Units of that Subgroup and at least one Land
> Unit not an element of that Subgroup.
> 2) It is a Subgroup.
>
> [Group = a group of stones in Go]
>
> Amend the rule 2022 "Land Transfiguration" to read in full:
>
> [Changing it so that it happens automatically]
>
> At the end of the second Eastman week of each Agoran Month, the following
> happens in sequence:
>
>   1. Every Land Unit, with a preservation switch of False that is not
>  directly connected to a unit of Aether, or is not connected by its
>  own type to a unit of Aether, shall be transformed to Aether.
>
>  For every Land Unit that has its type changed to Aether by this
>  procedure, the player who most recently changed the Land Type of any
>  Land Unit such that it is an element of the Full Group of the
> transformed
>  Land Unit or adjacent to any of the Land Units of the Full Group of
> the
>  transformed Land Unit, among the players who aren't Cartographor,
> receives
>  3 coins and 2 apples.
>
>   2. Any entities whose locations are on land units so transformed
>  shall have their locations set to (0, 0).
>
>   3. If any land unit so transformed is not property of Agora, it
>  becomes property of Agora.
>
>   The Cartographor SHALL announce all of these changes in a timely manner.
>
> //
>



-- 
>From V.J. Rada


Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Cartographor] Land auctions for May week 1

2018-05-13 Thread Reuben Staley

I withdraw my bid and instead bid 11 coins.

On 05/09/2018 02:16 PM, Reuben Staley wrote:

I bid 15 coins.

On Wed, May 9, 2018, 14:00 Kerim Aydin > wrote:




Too rich for omd's blood!

On behalf of omd:
    - omd withdraws eir bid in the land auction.
    - omd transfers 12 coins to G.

I bid 15 coins in the land auction.

I transfer 3 coins to o.

I act on behalf of o:  o bids 15 coins in the ongoing land auction.


On Wed, 9 May 2018, Kerim Aydin wrote:
 > I bid 12 coins in the ongoing land auction.
 > I act on behalf of o:  o bids 12 coins in the ongoing land auction.
 > I act on behalf of omd:  omd bids 12 coins in the ongoing land
auction.
 >
 > I transfer 4 coins to o.
 > I transfer 4 coins to omd.
 >
 >
 > On Tue, 8 May 2018, Corona wrote:
 > > I bid 9 coins in the ongoing land auction.
 > > ​I act on behalf of Quazie to bid 9 coins in​ the ongoing land
auction. I
 > > transfer 9 coins to Quazie.
 > >
 > > ~Corona
 > >
 > > On Tue, May 8, 2018 at 1:18 PM, Kerim Aydin
mailto:ke...@u.washington.edu>> wrote:
 > >
 > > >
 > > >
 > > > I bid 8 coins in the ongoing land auction.
 > > > I act on behalf of o:  o bids 8 coins in the ongoing land
auction.
 > > > I act on behalf of omd:  omd bids 8 coins in the ongoing land
auction.
 > > >
 > > > I transfer 8 coins to o.
 > > > I transfer 8 coins to omd.
 > > >
 > > > On Sat, 5 May 2018, ATMunn wrote:
 > > > > I bid 10 coins in the ongoing land auction.
 > > > >
 > > > > On 5/5/2018 3:12 AM, Corona wrote:
 > > > > > ​I bid 4 and I act on behalf of Quazie to bid 4 in the
ongoing land
 > > > > > auction.​
 > > > > >
 > > > > > ~Corona
 > > > > >
 > > > > > On Sat, May 5, 2018 at 9:09 AM, Reuben Staley
mailto:reuben.sta...@gmail.com>
 > > > >
 > > > > > wrote:
 > > > > >
 > > > > > > Attempt 2, here we go!
 > > > > > >
 > > > > > > There are currently 9 public, unpreserved, non-aether
land units in
 > > > > > > existence. I am to choose 5 of them to be auctioned
off. For the
 > > > sake of
 > > > > > > convenience, I choose the first five new land units.
 > > > > > >
 > > > > > > For the following auction, I am the announcer, Agora is the
 > > > auctioneer,
 > > > > > > and the minimum bid is 1 coin, and the lots are as follows:
 > > > > > >
 > > > > > > LOT 1: the land unit at (+3,  0)
 > > > > > > LOT 2: the land unit at (+2, -1)
 > > > > > > LOT 3: the land unit at (+2, -2)
 > > > > > > LOT 4: the land unit at (+1, -3)
 > > > > > > LOT 5: the land unit at (+4,  0)
 > > > > > >
 > > > > > > --
 > > > > > > Trigon
 > > > > > >
 > > > > > >
 > > > > > > On 05/05/2018 12:12 AM, Reuben Staley wrote:
 > > > > > >
 > > > > > > > Forever shall May 4th, 2018 be considered a turning
point for the
 > > > Land
 > > > > > > > of
 > > > > > > > Arcadia. Now there are many land units to auction of,
so let's do
 > > > so.
 > > > > > > >
 > > > > > > > (ATTN Assessor: the voting period for 8042-8045 is
over. If you
 > > > could
 > > > > > > > please assess them soon, that'd be great. One auction is
 > > > significantly
 > > > > > > > less interesting. Also, I really want to have Q*Bert
in the game
 > > > soon.)
 > > > > > > >
 > > > > > > > There are currently 9 public, unpreserved, non-aether
land units in
 > > > > > > > existence. I am to choose 5 of them to be auctioned
off. For the
 > > > sake of
 > > > > > > > convenience, I choose the first five new land units.
 > > > > > > >
 > > > > > > > For the following auction, I am the announcer, Agora
is the
 > > > auctioneer,
 > > > > > > > and the minimum bid is 1 coin, and the lots are as
follows:
 > > > > > > >
 > > > > > > > LOT 1: The lot is the white land unit at (+3,  0)
 > > > > > > > LOT 2: The lot is the white land unit at (+2, -1)
 > > > > > > > LOT 3: The lot is the white land unit at (+2, -2)
 > > > > > > > LOT 4: The lot is the black land unit at (+1, -3)
 > > > > > > > LOT 5: The lot is the black land unit at (+4,  0)
 > > > > > > >
 > > > > > > > --
 > > > > > > > Trigon
 > > > > > > >
 > > > > > >
 > > > > > > --
 > > > > > > Trigon
 > > > > > >
 > > > >
 > > >
 > >
 >



--
Trigon