BUS: Building Spree

2018-06-23 Thread Kerim Aydin



I destroy an apple to move to (+3,-2)
I destroy 5 lumber to build a mine on (+3,-2)

I destroy an apple to move to (+3, -1)
I destroy an apple to move to (+4, -1)
I destroy 5 lumber to build a mine on (+4,-1)

I destroy an apple to move to (+4, 0)
I destroy 5 stone to build an orchard on (+4,0)

I destroy an apple to move to (+3, 0)
I destroy 5 lumber to build an mine on (+3,0)

I destroy an apple to move to (+2, 0)
I destroy 5 stone to build an orchard on (+2,0)





BUS: Testo Testerino

2018-06-23 Thread Ned Strange
Test

-- 
>From V.J. Rada


BUS: land auction payments

2018-06-23 Thread Kerim Aydin



> AUCTION 2: the land unit at (+3, -2)
> Sold to G. for 17 coins.

I transfer 17 coins to Agora for em to transfer this land to me.


> AUCTION 3: the land unit at (+4, -1)
> Sold to G. for 16 coins.

I transfer 16 coins to Agora for em to transfer this land to me.





BUS: the second test

2018-06-23 Thread Kerim Aydin



blip





BUS: test post pls ignore

2018-06-23 Thread Kerim Aydin



bloop





Re: BUS: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8054-8057

2018-06-23 Thread Alex Smith
On Sat, 2018-06-23 at 18:36 +0200, Corona wrote:
>  I CFJ: My conditional vote in the appended message evaluates to FOR each
> proposal.
> 
> Caller's arguments: while this contains a conditional referring a
> hypothetical future situation, that situation is not indeterminate, as I
> specified "in the next instant, before any other process regulated by the
> ruleset of Agora takes place", meaning it can be unambiguously logically
> derived from the present situation (that is, the present situation - my
> first message and the withdrawal + my second message = the hypothetical
> future situation).

Gratuitous arguments: Agora does not have infinitely many players, nor
is it reasonable to believe that it could have infinitely many players
without a change to the rules.

If other people are doing the same thing as you, then they're making
the same conditional, and at some point the conditional will talk about
an event that can't possibly occur (someone else voting) and thus fail
to evaluate. I think that makes the whole thing collapse.

-- 
ais523


Re: BUS: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8054-8057

2018-06-23 Thread Corona
 I CFJ: My conditional vote in the appended message evaluates to FOR each
proposal.

Caller's arguments: while this contains a conditional referring a
hypothetical future situation, that situation is not indeterminate, as I
specified "in the next instant, before any other process regulated by the
ruleset of Agora takes place", meaning it can be unambiguously logically
derived from the present situation (that is, the present situation - my
first message and the withdrawal + my second message = the hypothetical
future situation).

~Corona

On Sat, Jun 23, 2018 at 6:35 PM, Corona  wrote:

> I withdraw my vote on these proposals.
>
> I vote on these proposals in such a manner that, in a hypothetical
> alternate gamestate identical to the current one except for me never
> sending the message immediately before this one, and this message not
> containing the withdrawal of my earlier vote, in case that in the next
> instant, before any other process regulated by the ruleset of Agora takes
> place, a player would respond to this thread with the message "I do the
> same as the last six people in this thread", their vote on all of these
> proposals would evaluate to FOR all of the aforementioned proposals.
>
> (oops, I killed the joke, if any existed in the first place)
>
>
> ~Corona
>
> On Sat, Jun 23, 2018 at 6:03 PM, Corona 
> wrote:
>
>> I vote on these proposals in such a manner that, in case that in the next
>> instant, before any other process regulated by the ruleset of Agora takes
>> place, a player will respond to this thread with the message "I do the
>> same as the last six people in this thread", their vote on all of these
>> proposals will be valid.
>>
>> ~Corona
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 23, 2018 at 5:17 PM, Reuben Staley 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I do the same as the last four people in this thread.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jun 23, 2018, 09:09 ATMunn  wrote:
>>>
>>> > I do the same as the last three people in this thread.
>>> >
>>> > On 6/23/2018 6:14 AM, Timon Walshe-Grey wrote:
>>> > > I also vote FOR proposals 8053-8057.
>>> > >
>>> > > -twg
>>> > > ​​
>>> > >
>>> > > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
>>> > >
>>> > > On June 23, 2018 8:41 AM, Ned Strange 
>>> wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > >> ​​
>>> > >>
>>> > >> I vote FOR each listed proposal
>>> > >>
>>> > >> On Sat, Jun 23, 2018 at 4:04 PM, Aris Merchant
>>> > >>
>>> > >> thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> > >>
>>> > >>> I vote as follows:
>>> > >>>
>>> >  ID Author(s) AI Title Pender
>>> >  
>>> > 
>>> >  8053* G., Aris 1.0 patch patch patch G. [1]
>>> > 
>>> >  FOR
>>> > 
>>> >  8054+ Aris, [2] 3.0 Minimalist Contracts v2 Aris
>>> > 
>>> >  FOR
>>> > 
>>> >  8055+ Aris, G. 3.0 Distributed Assets v3 Aris
>>> > 
>>> >  FOR
>>> > 
>>> >  8056+ Aris, G. 3.0 Deregulation Act v2 Aris
>>> > 
>>> >  FOR
>>> > 
>>> >  8057* Corona 1.0 No quorum, no medal Corona [1]
>>> > 
>>> >  FOR
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> -Aris
>>> > >>
>>> > >> --
>>> > >>
>>> > >>  From V.J. Rada
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>>
>>
>>
>


Re: BUS: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8054-8057

2018-06-23 Thread Corona
 I withdraw my vote on these proposals.

I vote on these proposals in such a manner that, in a hypothetical
alternate gamestate identical to the current one except for me never
sending the message immediately before this one, and this message not
containing the withdrawal of my earlier vote, in case that in the next
instant, before any other process regulated by the ruleset of Agora takes
place, a player would respond to this thread with the message "I do the
same as the last six people in this thread", their vote on all of these
proposals would evaluate to FOR all of the aforementioned proposals.

(oops, I killed the joke, if any existed in the first place)


~Corona

On Sat, Jun 23, 2018 at 6:03 PM, Corona  wrote:

> I vote on these proposals in such a manner that, in case that in the next
> instant, before any other process regulated by the ruleset of Agora takes
> place, a player will respond to this thread with the message "I do the
> same as the last six people in this thread", their vote on all of these
> proposals will be valid.
>
> ~Corona
>
> On Sat, Jun 23, 2018 at 5:17 PM, Reuben Staley 
> wrote:
>
>> I do the same as the last four people in this thread.
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 23, 2018, 09:09 ATMunn  wrote:
>>
>> > I do the same as the last three people in this thread.
>> >
>> > On 6/23/2018 6:14 AM, Timon Walshe-Grey wrote:
>> > > I also vote FOR proposals 8053-8057.
>> > >
>> > > -twg
>> > > ​​
>> > >
>> > > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
>> > >
>> > > On June 23, 2018 8:41 AM, Ned Strange 
>> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> ​​
>> > >>
>> > >> I vote FOR each listed proposal
>> > >>
>> > >> On Sat, Jun 23, 2018 at 4:04 PM, Aris Merchant
>> > >>
>> > >> thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >>> I vote as follows:
>> > >>>
>> >  ID Author(s) AI Title Pender
>> >  
>> > 
>> >  8053* G., Aris 1.0 patch patch patch G. [1]
>> > 
>> >  FOR
>> > 
>> >  8054+ Aris, [2] 3.0 Minimalist Contracts v2 Aris
>> > 
>> >  FOR
>> > 
>> >  8055+ Aris, G. 3.0 Distributed Assets v3 Aris
>> > 
>> >  FOR
>> > 
>> >  8056+ Aris, G. 3.0 Deregulation Act v2 Aris
>> > 
>> >  FOR
>> > 
>> >  8057* Corona 1.0 No quorum, no medal Corona [1]
>> > 
>> >  FOR
>> > >>>
>> > >>> -Aris
>> > >>
>> > >> --
>> > >>
>> > >>  From V.J. Rada
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>>
>
>


Re: BUS: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8054-8057

2018-06-23 Thread Corona
I vote on these proposals in such a manner that, in case that in the next
instant, before any other process regulated by the ruleset of Agora takes
place, a player will respond to this thread with the message "I do the same
as the last six people in this thread", their vote on all of these
proposals will be valid.

~Corona

On Sat, Jun 23, 2018 at 5:17 PM, Reuben Staley 
wrote:

> I do the same as the last four people in this thread.
>
> On Sat, Jun 23, 2018, 09:09 ATMunn  wrote:
>
> > I do the same as the last three people in this thread.
> >
> > On 6/23/2018 6:14 AM, Timon Walshe-Grey wrote:
> > > I also vote FOR proposals 8053-8057.
> > >
> > > -twg
> > > ​​
> > >
> > > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
> > >
> > > On June 23, 2018 8:41 AM, Ned Strange 
> wrote:
> > >
> > >> ​​
> > >>
> > >> I vote FOR each listed proposal
> > >>
> > >> On Sat, Jun 23, 2018 at 4:04 PM, Aris Merchant
> > >>
> > >> thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> I vote as follows:
> > >>>
> >  ID Author(s) AI Title Pender
> >  
> > 
> >  8053* G., Aris 1.0 patch patch patch G. [1]
> > 
> >  FOR
> > 
> >  8054+ Aris, [2] 3.0 Minimalist Contracts v2 Aris
> > 
> >  FOR
> > 
> >  8055+ Aris, G. 3.0 Distributed Assets v3 Aris
> > 
> >  FOR
> > 
> >  8056+ Aris, G. 3.0 Deregulation Act v2 Aris
> > 
> >  FOR
> > 
> >  8057* Corona 1.0 No quorum, no medal Corona [1]
> > 
> >  FOR
> > >>>
> > >>> -Aris
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >>
> > >>  From V.J. Rada
> > >
> > >
> >
>


Re: BUS: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8054-8057

2018-06-23 Thread Reuben Staley
I do the same as the last four people in this thread.

On Sat, Jun 23, 2018, 09:09 ATMunn  wrote:

> I do the same as the last three people in this thread.
>
> On 6/23/2018 6:14 AM, Timon Walshe-Grey wrote:
> > I also vote FOR proposals 8053-8057.
> >
> > -twg
> > ​​
> >
> > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
> >
> > On June 23, 2018 8:41 AM, Ned Strange  wrote:
> >
> >> ​​
> >>
> >> I vote FOR each listed proposal
> >>
> >> On Sat, Jun 23, 2018 at 4:04 PM, Aris Merchant
> >>
> >> thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>
> >>> I vote as follows:
> >>>
>  ID Author(s) AI Title Pender
>  
> 
>  8053* G., Aris 1.0 patch patch patch G. [1]
> 
>  FOR
> 
>  8054+ Aris, [2] 3.0 Minimalist Contracts v2 Aris
> 
>  FOR
> 
>  8055+ Aris, G. 3.0 Distributed Assets v3 Aris
> 
>  FOR
> 
>  8056+ Aris, G. 3.0 Deregulation Act v2 Aris
> 
>  FOR
> 
>  8057* Corona 1.0 No quorum, no medal Corona [1]
> 
>  FOR
> >>>
> >>> -Aris
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >>  From V.J. Rada
> >
> >
>


Re: BUS: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8054-8057

2018-06-23 Thread ATMunn

I do the same as the last three people in this thread.

On 6/23/2018 6:14 AM, Timon Walshe-Grey wrote:

I also vote FOR proposals 8053-8057.

-twg
​​

‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐

On June 23, 2018 8:41 AM, Ned Strange  wrote:


​​

I vote FOR each listed proposal

On Sat, Jun 23, 2018 at 4:04 PM, Aris Merchant

thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com wrote:


I vote as follows:


ID Author(s) AI Title Pender


8053* G., Aris 1.0 patch patch patch G. [1]

FOR

8054+ Aris, [2] 3.0 Minimalist Contracts v2 Aris

FOR

8055+ Aris, G. 3.0 Distributed Assets v3 Aris

FOR

8056+ Aris, G. 3.0 Deregulation Act v2 Aris

FOR

8057* Corona 1.0 No quorum, no medal Corona [1]

FOR


-Aris


--

 From V.J. Rada





Re: BUS: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8054-8057

2018-06-23 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
I also vote FOR proposals 8053-8057.

-twg
​​

‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐

On June 23, 2018 8:41 AM, Ned Strange  wrote:

> ​​
> 
> I vote FOR each listed proposal
> 
> On Sat, Jun 23, 2018 at 4:04 PM, Aris Merchant
> 
> thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> > I vote as follows:
> > 
> > > ID Author(s) AI Title Pender
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 8053* G., Aris 1.0 patch patch patch G. [1]
> > > 
> > > FOR
> > > 
> > > 8054+ Aris, [2] 3.0 Minimalist Contracts v2 Aris
> > > 
> > > FOR
> > > 
> > > 8055+ Aris, G. 3.0 Distributed Assets v3 Aris
> > > 
> > > FOR
> > > 
> > > 8056+ Aris, G. 3.0 Deregulation Act v2 Aris
> > > 
> > > FOR
> > > 
> > > 8057* Corona 1.0 No quorum, no medal Corona [1]
> > > 
> > > FOR
> > 
> > -Aris
> 
> --
> 
> From V.J. Rada




Re: BUS: Contract Competition: It's a subgame boiz!!!!!!

2018-06-23 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
Oops, forgot to mention: I become a party to the contract "Contract Competition 
Contract". It doesn't specify what counts as a "contribution", so I figure it 
doesn't matter that I haven't actually created a contract. I expect there's 
some technicality that will render it ineffective anyway, but I figure there's 
no harm in signing up regardless.

-twg
​​

‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐

On June 12, 2018 1:39 AM, Ned Strange  wrote:

> ​​
> 
> Right this is my one attempt to revitalize the institution of Contracts.
> 
> I create the following Contract (spending a coin)
> 
> Title: Contract Competition Contract
> 
> Text:
> 
> Anyone may become a Party to this Contract by announcement.
> 
> Parties to this Contract SHOULD join, create and interact with a
> 
> variety of Contracts over the next 10 days.
> 
> V.J. Rada SHALL judge in a timely fashion after the next 10 days which
> 
> other party to this contract gave the best contribution to the world
> 
> of Contracts recently.
> 
> V.J. Rada SHALL give that party 20 coins in the same message as that 
> judgement.
> 
> If nobody does anything interesting, parties to this Contract and
> 
> non-parties SHOULD vote to repeal Contracts ASAP.
> 
> 
> -
> 
> From V.J. Rada




Re: BUS: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8054-8057

2018-06-23 Thread Ned Strange
I vote FOR each listed proposal

On Sat, Jun 23, 2018 at 4:04 PM, Aris Merchant
 wrote:
> I vote as follows:
>
>> ID Author(s)  AI   Title Pender
>> ---
>> 8053*  G., Aris   1.0  patch patch patch G. [1]
> FOR
>> 8054+  Aris, [2]  3.0  Minimalist Contracts v2   Aris
> FOR
>> 8055+  Aris, G.   3.0  Distributed Assets v3 Aris
> FOR
>> 8056+  Aris, G.   3.0  Deregulation Act v2   Aris
> FOR
>> 8057*  Corona 1.0  No quorum, no medal   Corona [1]
> FOR
>
> -Aris



-- 
>From V.J. Rada