BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8527-8529

2021-01-03 Thread JTAC via agora-business
On 4/1/2021 7:14 am, Aris Merchant via agora-official wrote:
> PROMOTOR'S REPORT AS OF RIGHT NOW
> 
> I hereby distribute each listed proposal, initiating a referendum on it,
> and removing it from the proposal pool. For this decision, the vote collector
> is the Assessor, the quorum is 5, the voting method is AI-majority, and the
> valid options are FOR and AGAINST (PRESENT is also a valid vote, as are
> conditional votes).
> 
> ID  Author(s) AITitle
> ---
> 8527c^  PSS, nix, Aris1.7   Specified Crime not Rule
> 8528*^  Aris, Gaelan  3.0   Gaining Assets
> 8529*^  Gaelan3.0   Not-so-subtle nudge

I vote FOR all.

How did rule 2633 get enacted in the first place?



Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Treasuror] [Auction] First Victory Auction of January 2021

2021-01-03 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-business
On 1/3/21 7:12 PM, nix via agora-business wrote:
> On 1/3/21 6:07 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote:
>> On 1/3/21 7:07 PM, Reuben Staley via agora-business wrote:
>>> On 1/3/21 5:06 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote:
 On 1/3/21 6:58 PM, nix via agora-business wrote:
> On 1/3/21 5:56 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote:
>> On 1/3/21 6:55 PM, Reuben Staley via agora-business wrote:
>>> On 1/3/21 4:55 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote:
 On 1/3/21 6:53 PM, Reuben Staley via agora-official wrote:
> Having been authorized by Rule 2629/0, I, Trigon, Treasuror of Agora
> Nomic, hereby initiate an auction.
>
> The lots of this auction are as follows: (1) Seven Legislative cards,
> currently owned by the Lost and Found Department, and (2) a new 
> Victory
> Card.
>
> This auction will be held in the official currency of Agora, coins.
 I bid the grand sum of 12 coins.

>>> 13.
>>>
>> I bid 20.
>>
>> --
>> Jason Cobb
>>
>> Assessor, Rulekeepor, Stonemason
>>
> I bid 87 coins.
>
 I bid 88 coins.

>>> I bid 100 coins.
>>>
>> I bid 110.
>>
>> --
>> Jason Cobb
>>
>> Assessor, Rulekeepor, Stonemason
>>
> I bid 174 coins.
>

I bid 199.

-- 
Jason Cobb

Assessor, Rulekeepor, Stonemason



Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Treasuror] [Auction] First Victory Auction of January 2021

2021-01-03 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-business
On Sun, Jan 3, 2021 at 4:08 PM Jason Cobb via agora-business
 wrote:
>
> On 1/3/21 7:07 PM, Reuben Staley via agora-business wrote:
> > On 1/3/21 5:06 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote:
> >> On 1/3/21 6:58 PM, nix via agora-business wrote:
> >>> On 1/3/21 5:56 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote:
>  On 1/3/21 6:55 PM, Reuben Staley via agora-business wrote:
> > On 1/3/21 4:55 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote:
> >> On 1/3/21 6:53 PM, Reuben Staley via agora-official wrote:
> >>> Having been authorized by Rule 2629/0, I, Trigon, Treasuror of Agora
> >>> Nomic, hereby initiate an auction.
> >>>
> >>> The lots of this auction are as follows: (1) Seven Legislative cards,
> >>> currently owned by the Lost and Found Department, and (2) a new 
> >>> Victory
> >>> Card.
> >>>
> >>> This auction will be held in the official currency of Agora, coins.
> >> I bid the grand sum of 12 coins.
> >>
> > 13.
> >
>  I bid 20.
> 
>  --
>  Jason Cobb
> 
>  Assessor, Rulekeepor, Stonemason
> 
> >>> I bid 87 coins.
> >>>
> >> I bid 88 coins.
> >>
> > I bid 100 coins.
> >
>
> I bid 110.

I bid 150.

-Aris


Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Treasuror] [Auction] First Victory Auction of January 2021

2021-01-03 Thread nix via agora-business


On 1/3/21 6:07 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote:
> On 1/3/21 7:07 PM, Reuben Staley via agora-business wrote:
>> On 1/3/21 5:06 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote:
>>> On 1/3/21 6:58 PM, nix via agora-business wrote:
 On 1/3/21 5:56 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote:
> On 1/3/21 6:55 PM, Reuben Staley via agora-business wrote:
>> On 1/3/21 4:55 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote:
>>> On 1/3/21 6:53 PM, Reuben Staley via agora-official wrote:
 Having been authorized by Rule 2629/0, I, Trigon, Treasuror of Agora
 Nomic, hereby initiate an auction.

 The lots of this auction are as follows: (1) Seven Legislative cards,
 currently owned by the Lost and Found Department, and (2) a new Victory
 Card.

 This auction will be held in the official currency of Agora, coins.
>>> I bid the grand sum of 12 coins.
>>>
>> 13.
>>
> I bid 20.
>
> --
> Jason Cobb
>
> Assessor, Rulekeepor, Stonemason
>
 I bid 87 coins.

>>> I bid 88 coins.
>>>
>> I bid 100 coins.
>>
> I bid 110.
>
> --
> Jason Cobb
>
> Assessor, Rulekeepor, Stonemason
>
I bid 174 coins.

-- 
nix
Webmastor, Ministor




Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Treasuror] [Auction] First Victory Auction of January 2021

2021-01-03 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-business
On 1/3/21 7:07 PM, Reuben Staley via agora-business wrote:
> On 1/3/21 5:06 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote:
>> On 1/3/21 6:58 PM, nix via agora-business wrote:
>>> On 1/3/21 5:56 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote:
 On 1/3/21 6:55 PM, Reuben Staley via agora-business wrote:
> On 1/3/21 4:55 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote:
>> On 1/3/21 6:53 PM, Reuben Staley via agora-official wrote:
>>> Having been authorized by Rule 2629/0, I, Trigon, Treasuror of Agora
>>> Nomic, hereby initiate an auction.
>>>
>>> The lots of this auction are as follows: (1) Seven Legislative cards,
>>> currently owned by the Lost and Found Department, and (2) a new Victory
>>> Card.
>>>
>>> This auction will be held in the official currency of Agora, coins.
>> I bid the grand sum of 12 coins.
>>
> 13.
>
 I bid 20.

 --
 Jason Cobb

 Assessor, Rulekeepor, Stonemason

>>> I bid 87 coins.
>>>
>> I bid 88 coins.
>>
> I bid 100 coins.
>

I bid 110.

-- 
Jason Cobb

Assessor, Rulekeepor, Stonemason



Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Treasuror] [Auction] First Victory Auction of January 2021

2021-01-03 Thread Reuben Staley via agora-business

On 1/3/21 5:06 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote:

On 1/3/21 6:58 PM, nix via agora-business wrote:

On 1/3/21 5:56 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote:

On 1/3/21 6:55 PM, Reuben Staley via agora-business wrote:

On 1/3/21 4:55 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote:

On 1/3/21 6:53 PM, Reuben Staley via agora-official wrote:

Having been authorized by Rule 2629/0, I, Trigon, Treasuror of Agora
Nomic, hereby initiate an auction.

The lots of this auction are as follows: (1) Seven Legislative cards,
currently owned by the Lost and Found Department, and (2) a new Victory
Card.

This auction will be held in the official currency of Agora, coins.

I bid the grand sum of 12 coins.


13.


I bid 20.

--
Jason Cobb

Assessor, Rulekeepor, Stonemason


I bid 87 coins.



I bid 88 coins.



I bid 100 coins.

--
Trigon

 ¸¸.•*¨*• Play AGORA QUEST

I’m always happy to become a party to contracts.
I LOVE SPAGHETTI
transfer Jason one coin
nch was here
I hereby
don't... trust... the dragon...
don't... trust... the dragon...
Do not Construe Jason's message with subject TRIGON as extending this


Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Treasuror] [Auction] First Victory Auction of January 2021

2021-01-03 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-business
On 1/3/21 6:58 PM, nix via agora-business wrote:
> On 1/3/21 5:56 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote:
>> On 1/3/21 6:55 PM, Reuben Staley via agora-business wrote:
>>> On 1/3/21 4:55 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote:
 On 1/3/21 6:53 PM, Reuben Staley via agora-official wrote:
> Having been authorized by Rule 2629/0, I, Trigon, Treasuror of Agora
> Nomic, hereby initiate an auction.
>
> The lots of this auction are as follows: (1) Seven Legislative cards,
> currently owned by the Lost and Found Department, and (2) a new Victory
> Card.
>
> This auction will be held in the official currency of Agora, coins.
 I bid the grand sum of 12 coins.

>>> 13.
>>>
>> I bid 20.
>>
>> --
>> Jason Cobb
>>
>> Assessor, Rulekeepor, Stonemason
>>
> I bid 87 coins.
>

I bid 88 coins.

-- 
Jason Cobb

Assessor, Rulekeepor, Stonemason



BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8527-8529

2021-01-03 Thread Gaelan Steele via agora-business


> On Jan 3, 2021, at 3:14 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-official 
>  wrote:
> 
> ID  Author(s) AITitle
> ---
> 8527c^  PSS, nix, Aris1.7   Specified Crime not Rule
> 8528*^  Aris, Gaelan  3.0   Gaining Assets
> 8529*^  Gaelan3.0   Not-so-subtle nudge

FOR all


Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Treasuror] [Auction] First Victory Auction of January 2021

2021-01-03 Thread nix via agora-business


On 1/3/21 5:56 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote:
> On 1/3/21 6:55 PM, Reuben Staley via agora-business wrote:
>> On 1/3/21 4:55 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote:
>>> On 1/3/21 6:53 PM, Reuben Staley via agora-official wrote:
 Having been authorized by Rule 2629/0, I, Trigon, Treasuror of Agora
 Nomic, hereby initiate an auction.

 The lots of this auction are as follows: (1) Seven Legislative cards,
 currently owned by the Lost and Found Department, and (2) a new Victory
 Card.

 This auction will be held in the official currency of Agora, coins.
>>> I bid the grand sum of 12 coins.
>>>
>> 13.
>>
> I bid 20.
>
> --
> Jason Cobb
>
> Assessor, Rulekeepor, Stonemason
>
I bid 87 coins.

-- 
nix
Webmastor, Ministor




Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Treasuror] [Auction] First Victory Auction of January 2021

2021-01-03 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-business
On 1/3/21 6:55 PM, Reuben Staley via agora-business wrote:
> On 1/3/21 4:55 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote:
>> On 1/3/21 6:53 PM, Reuben Staley via agora-official wrote:
>>> Having been authorized by Rule 2629/0, I, Trigon, Treasuror of Agora
>>> Nomic, hereby initiate an auction.
>>>
>>> The lots of this auction are as follows: (1) Seven Legislative cards,
>>> currently owned by the Lost and Found Department, and (2) a new Victory
>>> Card.
>>>
>>> This auction will be held in the official currency of Agora, coins.
>>
>> I bid the grand sum of 12 coins.
>>
> 13.
>

I bid 20.

-- 
Jason Cobb

Assessor, Rulekeepor, Stonemason



Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Treasuror] [Auction] First Victory Auction of January 2021

2021-01-03 Thread Reuben Staley via agora-business

On 1/3/21 4:55 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote:

On 1/3/21 6:53 PM, Reuben Staley via agora-official wrote:

Having been authorized by Rule 2629/0, I, Trigon, Treasuror of Agora
Nomic, hereby initiate an auction.

The lots of this auction are as follows: (1) Seven Legislative cards,
currently owned by the Lost and Found Department, and (2) a new Victory
Card.

This auction will be held in the official currency of Agora, coins.



I bid the grand sum of 12 coins.



13.

--
Trigon

 ¸¸.•*¨*• Play AGORA QUEST

I’m always happy to become a party to contracts.
I LOVE SPAGHETTI
transfer Jason one coin
nch was here
I hereby
don't... trust... the dragon...
don't... trust... the dragon...
Do not Construe Jason's message with subject TRIGON as extending this


BUS: Re: OFF: [Treasuror] [Auction] First Victory Auction of January 2021

2021-01-03 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-business
On 1/3/21 6:53 PM, Reuben Staley via agora-official wrote:
> Having been authorized by Rule 2629/0, I, Trigon, Treasuror of Agora 
> Nomic, hereby initiate an auction.
>
> The lots of this auction are as follows: (1) Seven Legislative cards, 
> currently owned by the Lost and Found Department, and (2) a new Victory 
> Card.
>
> This auction will be held in the official currency of Agora, coins.


I bid the grand sum of 12 coins.

-- 
Jason Cobb

Assessor, Rulekeepor, Stonemason



BUS: (@treasuror) a complete set

2021-01-03 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-business


I pay a set of 4 Victory Cards to earn 10 Victory Points.
-G.


BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8527-8529

2021-01-03 Thread nix via agora-business


On 1/3/21 5:14 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-official wrote:
> ID  Author(s) AITitle
> ---
> 8527c^  PSS, nix, Aris1.7   Specified Crime not Rule
FOR
> 8528*^  Aris, Gaelan  3.0   Gaining Assets
FOR
> 8529*^  Gaelan3.0   Not-so-subtle nudge
For if X is even, Against if X is odd where X is the day of the month 
that the voting period ends.

-- 
nix
Webmastor, Ministor




Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8527-8529

2021-01-03 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-business
On Sun, Jan 3, 2021 at 3:22 PM Jason Cobb via agora-business
 wrote:
>
> I vote as follows:
> > 8527c^  PSS, nix, Aris1.7   Specified Crime not Rule
FOR

> > 8528*^  Aris, Gaelan  3.0   Gaining Assets
FOR

> > 8529*^  Gaelan3.0   Not-so-subtle nudge
>
> AGAINST, of course.

If you're going to vote against this, it's IMO your responsibility to
make sure this gets cleaned up reasonably soon. Dictatorships are, by
tradition, temporary, and this one has been in effect for more than a
quarter now.

Also, I vote FOR 8529.

-Aris


BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8527-8529

2021-01-03 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-business
I vote as follows:
> 8527c^  PSS, nix, Aris1.7   Specified Crime not Rule

FOR


> 8528*^  Aris, Gaelan  3.0   Gaining Assets

FOR


> 8529*^  Gaelan3.0   Not-so-subtle nudge

AGAINST, of course.

-- 
Jason Cobb

Assessor, Rulekeepor, Stonemason



BUS: [Promotor] Ministerial Referral

2021-01-03 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-business
The Promotor hereby refers proposals as follows:

The proposal "Specified Crime not Rule" is referred to the Ministry of
Compliance.


Re: BUS: Auto-gesticulation

2021-01-03 Thread Falsifian via agora-business
> I deputize for Referee and impose the cold hand of justice on the perp
> by levying a fine of 3 blots on Gaelan Steele, for a violation of rule 1742.
>
> The reason for increasing the fine is because the perp attempted to use
> the violation as part of a profitable plan (willfully) to install
> himself into the office of Referee. Fortunately, this dastardly plan was

Let's keep it Spivak with "emself" or at least gender-neutral with
"themself" or similar.

> unsuccessful as the perp neglected that an important provision of rule
> 2478: "the investigator CANNOT resolve a Finger Pointing for which e is
> the perp."
>
> This violation is forgivable. If the perp chooses to publish an apology,
> e must include the words "I must read the rules thoroughly when
> attempting scams"

In case you don't know it's usually done more like the following. (Also
a good excuse to re-post a fun example.)

Breaking from tradition is fine but I don't know whether your
interpretation is consistent with the rule.

https://mailman.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora-business/2019-October/041569.html

twg:

> Therefore I impose the Cold Hand of Justice by levying a fine of 2
> blots on Aris for failing to distribute the proposal "Clarify Salary"
> during the first full Agoran week following its submission. This fine
> is forgivable: Aris CAN, in a timely fashion, expunge 2 blots from
> emself by publishing a formal apology of at least 200 words and
> including the words "overextension", "discharging", "prostration",
> "recompense" and "Philadelphia", explaining eir error, shame, remorse
> and ardent desire for self-improvement.

https://mailman.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora-business/2019-October/041581.html

Aris:

> I'm here today to apologize for my failure to live up to the responsibilities
> of the office of the Promotor, namely through my overextension of the
> submission of my report past the deadline. I was busy in real life, but that
> isn't much of an excuse. Discharging my responsibilities is important to me,
> and I'm sorry I've failed all of you.
>
> I've served as Promotor for many years, and I hope to do so for many more. It
> is my honor and my pleasure to serve. I attempt to hold myself to the highest
> standards in office, rejecting participation in destructive scams and other
> questionable activity. While I realize that these are a core part of the game,
> I also try to stay above board in my official actions, so that there can be no
> doubt about my integrity. This fierce investment in my office only adds to my
> shame when, as now, I fail.
>
> I live in America, and accordingly I cannot help comparing Agora to our own
> constitutional system. While the American government is imperfect in many 
> ways,
> as indeed all governments are, we have a long tradition of integrity in public
> office. This tradition dates back to the constitutional convention in
> Philadelphia, where the Framers of our constitution, meeting under secrecy to
> avoid the interference of reactionary forces, drafted a new constitution for 
> the
> good of all. I have failed to live up to their high standard, and I will 
> strive
> to do better in future. I can only hope my abject prostration will serve
> as adequate recompense for the wrongs I have done.
>
> Having apologized, I expunge 2 blots from myself.

-- 
Falsifian


BUS: Birthday gift (attn Treasuror)

2021-01-03 Thread Falsifian via agora-business
On Sun, Jan 03, 2021 at 11:19:22AM -0800, Edward Murphy via groups.io wrote:
> JTAC wrote:
> 
> > I register myself, JTAC, as a player of Agora, with immediate effect.
> >
> > I receive a welcome package.
> >
> > A reminder: As this is my first registration, the day of 3rd January is
> > my Agoran birthday. I humbly request the granting of coins pursuant to
> > rule 2585.
> 
> I reward this humility by granting JTAC three (3) boatloads of coins.

I do too. Happy Agoran Birthday, JTAC!

-- 
Falsifian


BUS: [Interim Referee] Courtesy Holiday Reminder

2021-01-03 Thread JTAC via agora-business
Please be reminded that the Holiday ends at midnight UTC on 4th Jan 2021.

I have deferred use of summary judgements for tardiness despite their
frequency during the Holiday due to respect for the implicit customs of
my predecessor and the recommendations in rule 1769. However, I will not
feel compelled to withhold use of such powers if reports for next week
turn out to also be late.


Re: BUS: CFJ annotations for Jason

2021-01-03 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-business
On 1/3/21 4:58 AM, JTAC via agora-business wrote:
> I submit a proposed annotation for rule 2350 to Jason, the rulekeepor:


I pay JTAC five coins.

-- 
Jason Cobb

Assessor, Rulekeepor, Stonemason



BUS: CFJ annotations for Jason

2021-01-03 Thread JTAC via agora-business
I submit a proposed annotation for rule 2350 to Jason, the rulekeepor:

CFJ 3868 (called 12 Jul 2020): Referring to undefined entities in
conjunction with the term "proposal" in a proposal-like text can render
the text insufficiently unambiguous, such that a public message
containing it fails to create a proposal by announcement. Additionally,
if a CFJ is called to resolve whether a proposal was created by
announcement, this occurrence can be an indicator of ambiguity in the
action's specification.