Pledge re BUS: Statement from the Opposition
I pledge to abandin any attrmpt to do this scam if you give ME a win via free tournament On Fri., 26 Jun. 2020, 5:12 am Jason Cobb via agora-business, < agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote: > It is no secret that we wish to prevent the exile scam from working, > granting three players wins and resetting our economy. All that must be > done in order to do that is to prevent the exile intent from being > resolvable for any amount of time, so that the fix proposal's decision > can be resolved (please vote for it and consider using EVs, it appears > to be failing right now). > > There are two potential ways to delay the intent resolution: having the > Speaker object and use of the final paragraph of Rule 2124. > > First, the Speaker objection. The Speaker can veto the resolution for 48 > hours by objecting to the intent. This could either by done by > convincing the current Speaker (G.) to object or by replacing em with > someone against the scam. We have no specific desire to replace the > Speaker - if e agrees to help stop the scam, we will not replace em. > However, since that, at the moment, appears unlikely, we are forced to > consider replacing em. > > To replace G., someone must win the game, and the Prime Minister must > appoint em to Speaker. The latter is the reason for the Motion of No > Confidence - if the office is vacant, a person against the scam can > deputise to appoint the like-minded Speaker (which also grants em voting > strength on the fix proposal). Again, we have no specific desire to make > Prime Minister vacant, and we will not do so if it proves unnecessary > (i.e. if there is a Speaker opposed to the scam). > > There are currently the following methods for winning the game: > - free tournament > - birthday tournament > - PM -> emergency regs > - VP win > - Apathy > - PARADOXICAL CFJ > - Ribbons > > Some of these are definitely impossible within the necessary timeframe: > PARADOXICAL CFJ (needs to stand for one week) and Ribbons (nobody both > has a black ribbon and is close to having all the ribbons). Some of them > we will not be pursuing: VP Win, Apathy, and the Birthday Tournament. > This leaves a Free Tournament and emergency regulations. > > Free Tournaments require only 2 Agoran consent to initiate, while > Emergency Regulations require 3, so the easiest option is a Free > Tournament that automatically grants a certain person the win. However, > this intent is also vetoable by the Speaker, which would be incentivized > to do so in order to keep eir post. This means that bribing the current > Speaker with a free win might be the best option. This would also remove > the need to control Prime Minister. > > Finally, there is another potential way of blocking the intent - > objecting and withdrawing objections from the Blots intent. This would > only work if a recently called CFJ is judged TRUE (i.e. it is found that > with notice actions "depend on objections"). If so, then every player > can veto the exile intent for one day each, which is certainly enough > time to resolve the proposal. > > -- > Jason Cobb > >
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Statement from the Opposition
On 6/25/20 4:33 PM, omd via agora-discussion wrote: > On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 12:12 PM Jason Cobb via agora-business > wrote: >> Free Tournaments require only 2 Agoran consent to initiate, while >> Emergency Regulations require 3, so the easiest option is a Free >> Tournament that automatically grants a certain person the win. > > 3 Agoran Consent is hard but perhaps not impossible. Currently, my > Emergency Regulation intent has objections from the 2 scam team > members, and support from 3 people including me. If nobody else > objects, we could pass it with 7 support, so 4 more... > I support it. -- Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth
BUS: Statement from the Opposition
It is no secret that we wish to prevent the exile scam from working, granting three players wins and resetting our economy. All that must be done in order to do that is to prevent the exile intent from being resolvable for any amount of time, so that the fix proposal's decision can be resolved (please vote for it and consider using EVs, it appears to be failing right now). There are two potential ways to delay the intent resolution: having the Speaker object and use of the final paragraph of Rule 2124. First, the Speaker objection. The Speaker can veto the resolution for 48 hours by objecting to the intent. This could either by done by convincing the current Speaker (G.) to object or by replacing em with someone against the scam. We have no specific desire to replace the Speaker - if e agrees to help stop the scam, we will not replace em. However, since that, at the moment, appears unlikely, we are forced to consider replacing em. To replace G., someone must win the game, and the Prime Minister must appoint em to Speaker. The latter is the reason for the Motion of No Confidence - if the office is vacant, a person against the scam can deputise to appoint the like-minded Speaker (which also grants em voting strength on the fix proposal). Again, we have no specific desire to make Prime Minister vacant, and we will not do so if it proves unnecessary (i.e. if there is a Speaker opposed to the scam). There are currently the following methods for winning the game: - free tournament - birthday tournament - PM -> emergency regs - VP win - Apathy - PARADOXICAL CFJ - Ribbons Some of these are definitely impossible within the necessary timeframe: PARADOXICAL CFJ (needs to stand for one week) and Ribbons (nobody both has a black ribbon and is close to having all the ribbons). Some of them we will not be pursuing: VP Win, Apathy, and the Birthday Tournament. This leaves a Free Tournament and emergency regulations. Free Tournaments require only 2 Agoran consent to initiate, while Emergency Regulations require 3, so the easiest option is a Free Tournament that automatically grants a certain person the win. However, this intent is also vetoable by the Speaker, which would be incentivized to do so in order to keep eir post. This means that bribing the current Speaker with a free win might be the best option. This would also remove the need to control Prime Minister. Finally, there is another potential way of blocking the intent - objecting and withdrawing objections from the Blots intent. This would only work if a recently called CFJ is judged TRUE (i.e. it is found that with notice actions "depend on objections"). If so, then every player can veto the exile intent for one day each, which is certainly enough time to resolve the proposal. -- Jason Cobb
