Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal
On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 2:22 AM, Tanner Swett wrote: > On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 1:22 AM, Sean Hunt > wrote: > > I cause Rule 2380 to amend the quoted proposal to read "Not a chance." > > I believe that by Rule 2350, this is ineffective, as is your other > attempt to amend an existing proposal. > > —Machiavelli > > blargh. who wrote that anyway.
DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal
On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 1:22 AM, Sean Hunt wrote: > I cause Rule 2380 to amend the quoted proposal to read "Not a chance." I believe that by Rule 2350, this is ineffective, as is your other attempt to amend an existing proposal. —Machiavelli
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposals
On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 1:19 AM, Max Schutz wrote: > i request clarification on ministry listen to the speaker and recycling > please The wording is quite clear, in my opinion, so I'm not sure how I could offer clarification besides simply quoting the definitions of some of the terms used. Unless you're asking for the definitions of all of the terms "person", "CAN", "by announcement", "Patent Title", "Bear", "revoke", "award", "Win the Game", "in a timely fashion", "imposed", "office", "holder", "Assumption", and "elected", you're going to have to ask a more specific question. —Machiavelli
DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal
sean if you weren't going to say something i was lol On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 1:22 AM, Sean Hunt wrote: > On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 11:24 PM, omd wrote: > >> Proposal: Democratic Unilateralism >> >> Amend Rule 2380 (Richard Potato Boat) to read: >> >> The Dictator is an elected office. If the Assumption of the >> Dictator is ever Assumed, it is flipped to Postulated. >> >> The Dictator CAN, by announcement, cause this rule to perform a >> specified Rule Change. The Dictator CAN, by announcement, cause >> a proposal to take effect. The Dictator CAN, by announcement, >> cause this Rule to perform an arbitrary change to the gamestate. >> >> > I cause Rule 2380 to amend the quoted proposal to read "Not a chance." > > -scshunt >
DIS: Re: BUS: Proposals
i request clarification on ministry listen to the speaker and recycling
please
On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 1:07 AM, Tanner Swett wrote:
> I submit a proposal, titled "Recycling":
>
> Enact a rule, titled "Recycling":
>
> Any person CAN, by announcement, Recycle a Patent Title e Bears,
> unless the Patent Title is a Handicap. When this happens, e
> CAN, by announcement, in the same message, revoke that Patent
> Title from emself and award emself the Patent Title Recycler.
>
> To the last paragraph of Rule 2387 "Ribbons", append the sentence
> "Renascent is a Handicap."
>
> {}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}
>
> I submit a proposal with AI 2, titled "Ministry":
>
> Amend Rule 103 "The Speaker" to read as follows:
>
> Whenever a person Wins the Game, e CAN, in a timely fashion,
> award emself the Patent Title Minister.
>
> Speaker is an imposed office. Any Minister CAN, by
> announcement, take the office of Speaker; this causes the Patent
> Title Minister to be revoked from em.
>
> {}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}
>
> I submit a proposal with AI 2, titled "Listen to the Speaker":
>
> Enact a rule with power 2, titled "Listen to the Speaker":
>
> The Speaker CAN make emself the holder of an elected office by
> announcement. The Speaker CAN flip the Assumption of an elected
> office by announcement.
>
> {}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}
>
> I submit a proposal with AI 3, titled "Sticky Gerontocracy":
>
> In Rule 2357 "Wisdom of the Elders", amend the list item "Any Elder
> CAN, with 2 Elder Support, set the Chamber of an entity to
> Gerontocratic" to read "Any Elder CAN, with 2 Elder Support, set the
> Chamber of an entity to Gerontocratic. Rules to the contrary
> notwithstanding, if the Chamber of an entity is Gerontocratic, then
> its chamber CANNOT be changed."
>
> {}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}
>
> I submit a proposal with AI 2, titled "People don't use these":
>
> Repeal Rule 2375 "Plutocratic Chamber" and Rule 2377 "Aerocratic
> Chamber".
>
> {}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}
>
> I submit a proposal with AI 3, titled "Making things a little more
> ordinary":
>
> In Rule 2350 "Proposals", remove the list item "A Chamber." To the
> paragraph beginning "Creating a proposal adds it to the Proposal
> Pool", append the sentence "The Chamber of a proposal is initially
> Ordinary if its adoption index is less than 2, and Democratic
> otherwise."
>
> {}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}
>
> —Machiavelli
>
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal
ewww On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 12:24 AM, Tanner Swett wrote: > On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 12:21 AM, Max Schutz > wrote: > > let me see if i understand this with this rule in effect the dictator can > > pretty much do as he pleases to the rules > > That would be true, except that this rule has a Power of 1, meaning it > can't alter any object that has a Power greater than 1. The Dictator > could potentially cause significant damage to the game, but probably > not actually destroy it. > > —Machiavelli >
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal
On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 12:21 AM, Max Schutz wrote: > let me see if i understand this with this rule in effect the dictator can > pretty much do as he pleases to the rules That would be true, except that this rule has a Power of 1, meaning it can't alter any object that has a Power greater than 1. The Dictator could potentially cause significant damage to the game, but probably not actually destroy it. —Machiavelli
DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal
let me see if i understand this with this rule in effect the dictator can pretty much do as he pleases to the rules On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 11:24 PM, omd wrote: > Proposal: Democratic Unilateralism > > Amend Rule 2380 (Richard Potato Boat) to read: > > The Dictator is an elected office. If the Assumption of the > Dictator is ever Assumed, it is flipped to Postulated. > > The Dictator CAN, by announcement, cause this rule to perform a > specified Rule Change. The Dictator CAN, by announcement, cause > a proposal to take effect. The Dictator CAN, by announcement, > cause this Rule to perform an arbitrary change to the gamestate. > >
Re: DIS: clarification
I only raised the question because every game i have discussed on my podcast has phases and steps and things like that On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 11:56 PM, Tanner Swett wrote: > On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 11:11 PM, Max Schutz > wrote: > > Agora is my first nomic thus i am a little confused can new proposals > arise > > at any time or only after contests occur > > Rule 2350 states, "A player CAN create a proposal by announcement". > Thus, any player can create a proposal at any time. > > —Machiavelli >
DIS: Re: BUS: joining Agora
On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 11:46 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > I create a Transparent Ribbon in Tomas's possession. Welcome! I don't think you can do that, since Tomas hasn't announced that e earns one. —Machiavelli
Re: DIS: clarification
On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 11:11 PM, Max Schutz wrote: > Agora is my first nomic thus i am a little confused can new proposals arise > at any time or only after contests occur Rule 2350 states, "A player CAN create a proposal by announcement". Thus, any player can create a proposal at any time. —Machiavelli
DIS: Re: BUS: joining Agora
On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 5:41 AM, Tysger B. wrote: > I intend to join Agora. Welcome to the game. —Machiavelli
DIS: clarification
Agora is my first nomic thus i am a little confused can new proposals arise at any time or only after contests occur
DIS: Re: DIS: Dreams about nomic…
On Sun, 7 Apr 2013, Alex Smith wrote: > (Agora /should/ be > able to survive missing any single sentence from its ruleset, but > sometimes I'm not so sure…) A sort of scam-of-the-week contest, as it > were. Whoever chooses which sentence to disable would clearly have an > advantage, as they could think up the scams ahead of time. Depends on your definition of "survive". One scam I tried once, when I was patching a rule "honestly", was to delete a single 'not' which would have given the first person who realized it supreme power (side note: I was the assessor at the time; scam was spotted). -G.
DIS: Re: DIS: Re: DIS: Dreams about nomic…
--- On Sun, 7/4/13, Elliott Hird wrote: > I suggest we implement the form that was found in your dream: for > $currency, a player can suspend some part of a rule (for the whole > game or only as it relates to their actions?) for a while. > It sounds more interesting than a communal thing, and lord knows we > need some help getting an economy going. In the dream, it was only as it related to their own actions, but that sounds very difficult to correctly define. I guess we could just leave it vague and let CFJs sort it out. And yes, it definitely sounds interesting, that's why I mentioned it. -- ais523
