Re: DIS: Agoran MOO?

2019-11-16 Thread David Nicol
Right. The only reason we knew it as a MUD not a MOO is because the
term "MOO" hadn't been coined yet. I stand by my characterization of
MW as running on a MOO based on my understanding of the MUD/MOO
distinction.

On 11/16/19, Kerim Aydin  wrote:
>
> Yeah, I remember distinctly hearing the word MOO for the first time
> sometime
> after NW.  We definitely called it a MUD.  Only a few people (exclusively
> Monash University I think) were granted wizard/programming privileges -
> that
> was one of the difficulties with using that forum for Nomic, it gave them a
> bit too much unacknowledged clout over "reality" (i.e. what was POSSIBLE).
>
> On 11/16/2019 4:56 PM, Ørjan Johansen wrote:
>> It was 1992 (As You Know, Agora is from 1993), and the meaning of the
>> words
>> may have shifted, but I don't think people would have called Nomic World a
>>
>> MOO at the time.  I never got a look at its actual source code, but as I
>> recall the interface resembled more LPMud (the MUD style I was already
>> familiar with) than MOOs (I don't think I'd ever been on an actual MOO at
>>
>> the time, not that I've spent much time since either - my MUD days had
>> mostly ended around the time of Nomic World.)
>>
>> Greetings,
>> Ørjan.
>>
>> On Sat, 16 Nov 2019, David Nicol wrote:
>>
>>> Nomic World started as a MOO in 1994 or thenabouts. Agora began, on its
>>> first mailing list, after the fellow who was maintaining it graduated
>>> from
>>> college and didn't want to take that hobby with into The So-Called Real
>>> World. It had discussion rooms and a voting room where players could
>>> register their weigh-ins on whatever was currently proposed for voting.
>>>
>>> Fantasy Rules Committee began as a committee in Nomic World, before
>>> Agora
>>> existed.
>>>
>>> Lurking old guy signing off :)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 9:03 AM Sgeo  wrote:
>>>
 Was looking through my email archives for LambdaMOO stuff, and saw
 something about an Agoran MOO that used to exist. Is the database for
 that
 available anywhere? I would love to explore it and see what people
 made,
 even if it's otherwise dead.

>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Coming to you live, from behind Sneelock's store, in the big vacant lot.
>>>
>


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Re: DIS: Agoran MOO?

2019-11-16 Thread Kerim Aydin



Yeah, I remember distinctly hearing the word MOO for the first time sometime
after NW.  We definitely called it a MUD.  Only a few people (exclusively
Monash University I think) were granted wizard/programming privileges - that
was one of the difficulties with using that forum for Nomic, it gave them a
bit too much unacknowledged clout over "reality" (i.e. what was POSSIBLE).

On 11/16/2019 4:56 PM, Ørjan Johansen wrote:
It was 1992 (As You Know, Agora is from 1993), and the meaning of the words 
may have shifted, but I don't think people would have called Nomic World a 
MOO at the time.  I never got a look at its actual source code, but as I 
recall the interface resembled more LPMud (the MUD style I was already 
familiar with) than MOOs (I don't think I'd ever been on an actual MOO at 
the time, not that I've spent much time since either - my MUD days had 
mostly ended around the time of Nomic World.)


Greetings,
Ørjan.

On Sat, 16 Nov 2019, David Nicol wrote:


Nomic World started as a MOO in 1994 or thenabouts. Agora began, on its
first mailing list, after the fellow who was maintaining it graduated from
college and didn't want to take that hobby with into The So-Called Real
World. It had discussion rooms and a voting room where players could
register their weigh-ins on whatever was currently proposed for voting.

Fantasy Rules Committee began as a committee in Nomic World, before Agora
existed.

Lurking old guy signing off :)



On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 9:03 AM Sgeo  wrote:


Was looking through my email archives for LambdaMOO stuff, and saw
something about an Agoran MOO that used to exist. Is the database for that
available anywhere? I would love to explore it and see what people made,
even if it's otherwise dead.




--
Coming to you live, from behind Sneelock's store, in the big vacant lot.



Re: DIS: Agoran MOO?

2019-11-16 Thread Ørjan Johansen
It was 1992 (As You Know, Agora is from 1993), and the meaning of the 
words may have shifted, but I don't think people would have called Nomic 
World a MOO at the time.  I never got a look at its actual source code, 
but as I recall the interface resembled more LPMud (the MUD style I was 
already familiar with) than MOOs (I don't think I'd ever been on an actual 
MOO at the time, not that I've spent much time since either - my MUD days 
had mostly ended around the time of Nomic World.)


Greetings,
Ørjan.

On Sat, 16 Nov 2019, David Nicol wrote:


Nomic World started as a MOO in 1994 or thenabouts. Agora began, on its
first mailing list, after the fellow who was maintaining it graduated from
college and didn't want to take that hobby with into The So-Called Real
World. It had discussion rooms and a voting room where players could
register their weigh-ins on whatever was currently proposed for voting.

Fantasy Rules Committee began as a committee in Nomic World, before Agora
existed.

Lurking old guy signing off :)



On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 9:03 AM Sgeo  wrote:


Was looking through my email archives for LambdaMOO stuff, and saw
something about an Agoran MOO that used to exist. Is the database for that
available anywhere? I would love to explore it and see what people made,
even if it's otherwise dead.




--
Coming to you live, from behind Sneelock's store, in the big vacant lot.



Re: DIS: Agoran MOO?

2019-11-16 Thread David Nicol
Nomic World started as a MOO in 1994 or thenabouts. Agora began, on its
first mailing list, after the fellow who was maintaining it graduated from
college and didn't want to take that hobby with into The So-Called Real
World. It had discussion rooms and a voting room where players could
register their weigh-ins on whatever was currently proposed for voting.

Fantasy Rules Committee began as a committee in Nomic World, before Agora
existed.

Lurking old guy signing off :)



On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 9:03 AM Sgeo  wrote:

> Was looking through my email archives for LambdaMOO stuff, and saw
> something about an Agoran MOO that used to exist. Is the database for that
> available anywhere? I would love to explore it and see what people made,
> even if it's otherwise dead.
>


-- 
Coming to you live, from behind Sneelock's store, in the big vacant lot.