Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Mad Engineer weekly random rule selection
On 5/1/22 23:09, ais523 via agora-discussion wrote: > Any suggestions? I'm partial to changing "As this title..." to "As this > Device...", but maybe you have a better idea. FOR -- Jason Cobb Assessor, Rulekeepor, Stonemason
DIS: Re: BUS: Mad Engineer weekly random rule selection
On Mon, 2022-05-02 at 05:01 +0200, nethack4.org dicebot via agora-
business wrote:
> The dice roll was: 57
> This is R2231, Order of the Hero of Agora Nomic.
Huh, I'd forgotten about that rule.
For reference:
{{{
Heroic titles are Agora's premier patent titles of distinction,
and CAN be awarded to persons for meritorious service only by a
proposal of power 3 or greater, which SHOULD explain why those
persons are qualified. Bearers of heroic titles (Heroes)
constitute the Order of the Hero of Agora Nomic.
The Heroic titles in decreasing precedence are:
Grand Hero of Agora Nomic (GHAN) -- This title may be awarded to
any person obviously and directly responsible for the existence of
Agora and/or Nomic in general. As this title is the highest honour
that Agora may bestow, a Bearer of this title OUGHT to be treated
right good forever.
Hero of Agora Nomic (HAN) -- This title may be awarded to any
person for outstanding meritorious service to Agora above and
beyond the call of duty.
}}}
Any suggestions? I'm partial to changing "As this title..." to "As this
Device...", but maybe you have a better idea.
--
ais523
Mad Engineer
Re: DIS: Parting Gifts, Part 2 of 2: Silver Quill Nominations
On Sun, 2022-05-01 at 19:52 -0700, Aspen via agora-discussion wrote: > Nominees: > > IDAuthor(s)AITitle > --- > 8535 Aris, nix, G., Gaelan3.0 We the People > 8561 G., nix 2.0 Election Cycle > 8576 Jason, Aris, Murphy 3.0 "By announcement" loosening > 8599 G., Murphy 1.0 The Device (mark 2) > 8629 G., Telna, nix, [2] 3.0 Independence Day > > Honorable mentions: > > IDAuthor(s)AITitle > --- > 8532 G. 3.0 Turn Undead v2 > 8613 Jason, Trigon3.0 The Name of the Win Cards v2 > 8626 Trigon, Jason, ais5233.0 pledge(2)(2) > > [2] CuddleBeam, cuddlybanana, Jason Out of all of these, I think Independence Day has probably had the biggest impact on gameplay. It was also a shakeup to an old rule that hardly ever changes, which is notable in its own right. It's interesting that most of the recent gameplay hasn't been a consequence of new rules, though, but of changing behaviour by Agorans. (For example, Blots went from being mostly irrelevant to being highly relevant, and yet the rules surrounding that didn't really change at all.) -- ais523
Re: DIS: Parting Gifts, Part 2 of 2: Silver Quill Nominations
On 5/1/22 21:52, Aspen via agora-discussion wrote: IDAuthor(s)AITitle --- 8535 Aris, nix, G., Gaelan3.0 We the People 8561 G., nix 2.0 Election Cycle 8576 Jason, Aris, Murphy 3.0 "By announcement" loosening 8599 G., Murphy 1.0 The Device (mark 2) 8629 G., Telna, nix, [2] 3.0 Independence Day We the People and Independence Day are the obvious choices for me, personally. -- nix Herald, Collector
DIS: Parting Gifts, Part 2 of 2: Silver Quill Nominations
As I held Promotor for all of last year, I feel that it might be helpful for me to provide nominations for the Silver Quill. Right now, this just has the nominations, honorable mentions, and proposal bodies. I may post more detailed thoughts in the next few days if I can find the energy. As always, but especially given that I am no longer Promotor, this is not intended to be a complete list of candidates, but merely some suggestions. I didn't have a lot of spare energy to look over proposals, so the chances I missed something are even greater than in previous years. Also as always, the proposal archives [1] have been updated. [1] https://github.com/AgoraNomic/proposal-archives/ Nominees: IDAuthor(s)AITitle --- 8535 Aris, nix, G., Gaelan3.0 We the People 8561 G., nix 2.0 Election Cycle 8576 Jason, Aris, Murphy 3.0 "By announcement" loosening 8599 G., Murphy 1.0 The Device (mark 2) 8629 G., Telna, nix, [2] 3.0 Independence Day Honorable mentions: IDAuthor(s)AITitle --- 8532 G. 3.0 Turn Undead v2 8613 Jason, Trigon3.0 The Name of the Win Cards v2 8626 Trigon, Jason, ais5233.0 pledge(2)(2) [2] CuddleBeam, cuddlybanana, Jason The full text of all nominees and honorable mentions is below. // ID: 8535 Title: We the People Adoption index: 3.0 Author: Aris Co-authors: Trigon, nix, G., Gaelan Amend Rule 869, "How to Join and Leave Agora", by replacing: Any entity that is or ever was an organism generally capable of freely originating and communicating independent thoughts and ideas is a person. Rules to the contrary notwithstanding, no other entities are persons. with: Any entity (including a group of confederated entities) that is or ever was able to willingly communicate original ideas is a person. Rules to the contrary notwithstanding, no other entities are persons. Questions about personhood are to be resolved equitably, with regard for the good-faith of those involved and the customs of honorable play. and then, immediately after: An Unregistered person CAN (unless explicitly forbidden or prevented by the rules) register by publishing a message that indicates reasonably clearly and reasonably unambiguously that e intends to become a player at that time. inserting the new text: No person can be a player if e is part of another player or another player is part of em. and inserting a paragraph break immediately thereafter. Amend Rule 2499, "Welcome Packages", by replacing: When a player receives a Welcome Package, if e has not received one in the past 30 days, then e gains 10 boatloads of coins and one of each type of Card defined in the rules. with: When a player receives a Welcome Package, e gains 10 boatloads of coins and one of each type of Card defined in the rules, unless e, or any person of whom e was a part or who was a part of em has received a welcome package in the last 30 days. # CLEANUP Ben and Claire of the BC System are hereby declared to be separate persons; each patent title they collectively bore is revoked and granted to each of them individually. [Interpretive notes may be found in the message "BUS: Interpretive Notes for We the People".] // ID: 8561 Title: Election Cycle Adoption index: 2.0 Author: G. Co-author(s): nix Create a power=2 rule, "The Election Cycle", with the following text: A holder of an elected office who did not become its holder by winning an election, and has not won an election for that office since, is an interim holder. An elected office that is either vacant or has an interim holder is an interim office. An office is term-limited if the most recent election for that office was resolved more than the length of that office's term prior. The term for the office of Prime Minister is 90 days. The term for all other elected offices is 180 days. A player CAN initiate an election for a specified elected office: a) with 2 support, if either the office is interim or term- limited, and provided that the initiator becomes a candidate in the same message. b) By announcement, if e is the ADoP (or, if the office is the ADoP, if e is the Assessor) and the office is interim, or if e is the holder of that office. Once per quarter, the ADoP CAN and SHALL publish a Notice of Election specifying between 2-4 term-limited offices (if there fewer than 2 term-limited offices, the ADoP MUST instead list all of them). Such a notice initiates elections for the specified offices. The ADoP SHOULD prioritize offices that have gone
DIS: Parting Gifts, Part 1 of 2: Protos
Do what you will with these protos! -Aspen --- Title: Sometimes I Have Bad Ideas Adoption index: 1.0 Author: Aspen Co-authors: Amend Rule 2463, "Motion of No Confidence", by removing the text: Motions of confidence SHOULD used whenever Agorans want to shake things up, rather than as a personal judgement of the Prime Minister. [ Note 1: People should feel free to do a motion of no confidence whenever they deem it necessary, including to start or stop scams or to express a judgement of the Prime Minister's performance or to shake things up. PM is the people's office, the only one that's truly popularly elected! Note 2: Apparently there's a typo? That should definitely be "motions of no confidence". Note 3: There were going to be two "Sometimes I Have Bad Ideas" proposals, but G. repealed Dark Arts before I got to it. Thanks G.! ] --- Title: Maybe We Shouldn't Forget Things Adoption index: 1.0 Author: Aspen Co-author(s): nix, G. Enact a new power 1.0 rule, entitled "Calendar", with the following text: The following are Noteworthy Events: 1. Holidays 2. Read the Ruleset Week 3. Awards Month 4. The Agoran Birthdays of current players 5. The beginnings of Agoran quarters The Herald's monthly report includes the dates or date ranges for all Noteworthy Events that are scheduled to take place before the end of the subsequent Agoran month. The Herald is ENCOURAGED to publish a reminder shortly before a Noteworthy Event takes place. [I can't come up with a rule title I'm happy with, TBH.} -- Title: SLR Ratification Adoption index: 3.0 Author: Aspen Co-authors: Ratify the Short Logical Ruleset published on the 8th of February, 2022, available here [1]. [1] https://mailman.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora-official/2022-February/015653.html [Maybe this needs a period for people to catch errors, but we should do this soon IMO. The RtRW ruleset is the most checked recent ruleset.]
DIS: Re: BUS: [DoV] (@Treasuror) A Little Economic Takeover
On 5/1/2022 12:29 PM, secretsnail9 via agora-business wrote:
> I take the following action 5 times:
> {
> If I have any blots, I expunge a blot from myself by paying a fee of 1
> blot-b-gone.
> }
[Referee voiceover: e didn't have any blots]
