Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Propositions 9068-9069
On 3/3/24 17:22, Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-discussion wrote: > Would this perhaps allow it to merit a non-AGAINST vote? My fingers are > crossed. I'll think about it, but I'm still concerned about the CFJ load. -- Janet Cobb Assessor, Rulekeepor, Sโtonemason
DIS: Re: BUS: ๐๐๐ฆ๐ค ๐ฆ๐ฏ๐๐ค๐ฆ๐ (๐ฏ๐ด๐๐ฉ๐๐ฐ ๐๐จ๐ฏ ๐๐๐ช๐ ๐ฅ๐ฐ)
On Mon, 2024-03-04 at 18:19 +, Goren Barak via agora-business wrote: > ๐ฃ๐ง๐ค๐ด ๐ฉ๐๐น๐ฉ, > ๐ฒ ๐๐ง๐๐ค๐บ ๐๐ฆ๐๐๐น๐ฐ ๐๐ฒ ๐จ๐๐ฉ๐๐ฐ ๐ ยท๐๐ง๐ฏ ๐ฏ ยท๐๐น๐ง๐ฏ > ๐ ๐ณ๐๐ก๐ง๐๐, ๐ฎ๐ฒ๐ "๐ฒ ๐ณ๐๐ก๐ง๐๐ ๐ ๐๐ฆ๐๐๐น๐ฐ ๐๐ฒ > ๐จ๐๐ฉ๐๐ฐ" > > ๐๐ซ๐๐๐ฒ ๐ฉ๐๐น๐ฉ I haven't even tried to translate this yet, but my immediate reaction was that, based on contents and on there apparently being a double- quoted statement, it at least contains an attempt to call a CFJ. (Posting this now in case it ends up being relevant for evidence.) -- ais523
DIS: Re: BUS: Re: ๐๐๐ฆ๐ค ๐ฆ๐ฏ๐๐ค๐ฆ๐ (๐ฏ๐ด๐๐ฉ๐๐ฐ ๐๐จ๐ฏ ๐๐๐ช๐ ๐ฅ๐ฐ)
On Mon, 2024-03-04 at 13:48 -0500, Janet Cobb via agora-business wrote: > Transliterated from the Shavian alphabet to standard English: > > { > Hello Agora, > I declare victory by apathy for Ben and Goren. To object, write "I > object to victory by apathy" > > Goodbye Agora > } > > This wasn't reasonable effort, by our precedents, almost surely does > nothing. In any case, can you point to any prior intent made? I suspect this was (intended to be) the intent, rather than the actual action, despite the wording forgetting to use the word "intend". -- ais523
DIS: Re: BUS: ๐๐๐ฆ๐ค ๐ฆ๐ฏ๐๐ค๐ฆ๐ (๐ฏ๐ด๐๐ฉ๐๐ฐ ๐๐จ๐ฏ ๐๐๐ช๐ ๐ฅ๐ฐ)
On 3/4/24 12:19, Goren Barak via agora-business wrote: > ๐ฃ๐ง๐ค๐ด ๐ฉ๐๐น๐ฉ, > ๐ฒ ๐๐ง๐๐ค๐บ ๐๐ฆ๐๐๐น๐ฐ ๐๐ฒ ๐จ๐๐ฉ๐๐ฐ ๐ ยท๐๐ง๐ฏ ๐ฏ ยท๐๐น๐ง๐ฏ > ๐ ๐ณ๐๐ก๐ง๐๐, ๐ฎ๐ฒ๐ "๐ฒ ๐ณ๐๐ก๐ง๐๐ ๐ ๐๐ฆ๐๐๐น๐ฐ ๐๐ฒ ๐จ๐๐ฉ๐๐ฐ" > > ๐๐ซ๐๐๐ฒ ๐ฉ๐๐น๐ฉ A few notes on this, besides the fact it probably doesn't work for effort reasons: I assume you meant to make an intent here, you first need to publish something to the effect of "I intend to declare apathy..." and then do the "I declare apathy" after the intent has been around and un-objected long enough. Even if the intent was written correctly, the second sentence doesn't do anything. You cannot add a non-rule-defined restriction on objections, so objections like Janet's (where e objected without even being sure there's an intent) still work. -- nix