Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Attn Promotor] Four proposals
Alexis wrote: On Sun, 9 Feb 2020 at 15:37, Edward Murphy via agora-business wrote: Proposal: Consistent ADoP duties (AI = 2) Amend Rule 2154 (Election Procedure) by appending to this text: If at any point an uncontested election has a single candidate, then any player CAN by announcement declare em the winner of the election, thereby causing em to win the election. If at any point an uncontested election has no candidates, then any player CAN declare the election ended with no winner by announcement. this text: In each of these cases, the ADoP SHALL so announce in a timely fashion, unless someone else has already done so. [I think the recent resolutions of Treasuror and Tailor, while still effective resolutions, didn't count as temporary deputisation because the ADoP wasn't required to do them.] I don't think this is needed, see existing text: After the nomination period ends, the ADoP CAN and, in a timely fashion, SHALL: 2) If POSSIBLE per the following paragraph, end the election immediately. Yeah, you're right. IMO it could still do with a reword for clarity, though. Proto: Clarify ADoP duties (AI = 2) Amend Rule 2154 (Election Procedure) by replacing this text: After the nomination period ends, the ADoP CAN and, in a timely fashion, SHALL: 1) If the election is contested, initiate an Agoran decision to select the winner of the election (the poll). For this decision, the Vote Collector is the ADoP, the valid options are the candidates for that election (including those who become candidates after its initiation), and the voting method is instant runoff. When the poll is resolved, its outcome, if a player, wins the election. If the outcome is not a player, the election ends with no winner. 2) If POSSIBLE per the following paragraph, end the election immediately. If at any point an uncontested election has a single candidate, then any player CAN by announcement declare em the winner of the election, thereby causing em to win the election. If at any point an uncontested election has no candidates, then any player CAN declare the election ended with no winner by announcement. with this text: After the nomination period ends: 1) If the election is contested, the ADoP CAN, and SHALL in a timely fashion, initiate an Agoran decision to select the winner of the election (the poll). For this decision, the Vote Collector is the ADoP, the valid options are the candidates for that election (including those who become candidates after its initiation), and the voting method is instant runoff. When the poll is resolved, its outcome, if a player, wins the election. If the outcome is not a player, the election ends with no winner. 2) If at any point an uncontested election has a single candidate, then any player CAN by announcement declare em the winner of the election, thereby causing em to win the election. If at any point an uncontested election has no candidates, then any player CAN declare the election ended with no winner by announcement. In either of these cases, the ADoP SHALL do so in a timely fashion, unless someone else already has.
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Attn Promotor] Four proposals
On Mon, 2020-02-10 at 01:16 +, James Cook via agora-discussion wrote: > On Sun, 9 Feb 2020 at 20:37, Edward Murphy via agora-business > wrote: > > Proposal: Meaningless extra coins > > (AI = 2, co-author = Alexis) > > > > Amend Rule 2483 (Economics) by appending this text: > > > >Upon doing so, eir remaining Coins (if any) are destroyed. > > It would be more fun if it destroyed everyone's Coins. For High Score wins (which are quite similar to this), Agora historically went back and forth with respect to how large the reset should be. A full reset has the issue that players who have no chance to win first aren't motivated to maintain a buffer of points / Coins / whatever at all, effectively locking them out of the game until the win occurs (unless they have something else that they can spend them on). Meanwhile, a lack of reset has its own issues, meaning that there's no real interaction between players. The best method of doing things appears to be somewhere in between; a 50% reset historically worked fairly well. (There are other ways to produce a partial reset, too, such as increasing the victory requirement whenever someone wins; IIRC someone suggested that fairly recently.) -- ais523
DIS: Re: BUS: [Attn Promotor] Four proposals
On Sun, 9 Feb 2020 at 20:37, Edward Murphy via agora-business wrote: > Proposal: Meaningless extra coins > (AI = 2, co-author = Alexis) > > Amend Rule 2483 (Economics) by appending this text: > >Upon doing so, eir remaining Coins (if any) are destroyed. It would be more fun if it destroyed everyone's Coins. - Falsifian
DIS: Re: BUS: [Attn Promotor] Four proposals
> On Feb 9, 2020, at 12:37 PM, Edward Murphy via agora-business > wrote: > > Proposal: Switch Responsibility Responsibility > (co-author = Alexis, chamber = Efficiency) > > Amend Rule 2603 (Switch Responsibility) by appending this text: > > The ADoP CAN appoint a player to such an office by announcement, > and SHOULD appoint the player primarily responsible for its > existence. 1006/44 already states, in its last paragraph, "When a proposal takes effect and creates a new office, if the proposal does not specify otherwise, the author of that proposal becomes the holder of the office.” That’s what I had in mind when writing that rule; do we believe it doesn’t work? Additionally, it’s with noting that I intentionally didn’t allow these offices to be reappointed, on the theory that it would encourage us to assign the switches to a proper office (by proposal) instead of keeping the interim office indefinitely. Gaelan > > - > > Proposal: Meaningful extra votes > (AI = 2, co-author = Alexis) > > Amend Rule 2423 (First Among Equals) by replacing "voting strength is > increased by 1" to "voting strength is doubled". > > [I think this is a no-op due to Interesting Chambers, though.] > > Amend Rule 103 (The Speaker) by replacing "voting strength one greater > than e would have" with "voting strength twice what e would have". > > - > > Proposal: Meaningless extra coins > (AI = 2, co-author = Alexis) > > Amend Rule 2483 (Economics) by appending this text: > > Upon doing so, eir remaining Coins (if any) are destroyed. > > - > > Proposal: Consistent ADoP duties > (AI = 2) > > Amend Rule 2154 (Election Procedure) by appending to this text: > > If at any point an uncontested election has a single candidate, > then any player CAN by announcement declare em the winner of the > election, thereby causing em to win the election. If at any point > an uncontested election has no candidates, then any player CAN > declare the election ended with no winner by announcement. > > this text: > > In each of these cases, the ADoP SHALL so announce in a timely > fashion, unless someone else has already done so. > > [I think the recent resolutions of Treasuror and Tailor, while still > effective resolutions, didn't count as temporary deputisation because > the ADoP wasn't required to do them.]
DIS: Re: BUS: [Attn Promotor] Four proposals
On Sun, 9 Feb 2020 at 15:37, Edward Murphy via agora-business wrote: > Proposal: Consistent ADoP duties > (AI = 2) > > Amend Rule 2154 (Election Procedure) by appending to this text: > >If at any point an uncontested election has a single candidate, >then any player CAN by announcement declare em the winner of the >election, thereby causing em to win the election. If at any point >an uncontested election has no candidates, then any player CAN >declare the election ended with no winner by announcement. > > this text: > >In each of these cases, the ADoP SHALL so announce in a timely >fashion, unless someone else has already done so. > > [I think the recent resolutions of Treasuror and Tailor, while still > effective resolutions, didn't count as temporary deputisation because > the ADoP wasn't required to do them.] I don't think this is needed, see existing text: > After the nomination period ends, the ADoP CAN and, in a timely > fashion, SHALL: > 2) If POSSIBLE per the following paragraph, end the election > immediately. -Alexis
