Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Last resort
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 11:46 AM, Elliott Hird [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 18 Nov 2008, at 16:41, Zefram wrote: Elliott Hird wrote: Therefore, Agora acknowledges that a nomic ruleset can have a jurisdiction larger than the domain of the game it defines the rules for. Not in general, no. That judgement is only that Agoran rules have infinite scope. Well that's very fair to other nomics ... Sure it is. Just like there's 500 coins that I can use however I want but nobody else can touch (without some type of majority consent, at least). --Warrigal, who platonically declares that he's using there's correctly
DIS: Re: BUS: Last resort
Elliott Hird wrote: Therefore, Agora acknowledges that a nomic ruleset can have a jurisdiction larger than the domain of the game it defines the rules for. Not in general, no. That judgement is only that Agoran rules have infinite scope. So, I'm starting a new game of nomic! Here are the rules: These rules are, of course, not the rules of Agora, to which CFJ 24 refers. 4. ehird can create rules in Agora, This mechanism is trivially ineffective in Agora, because nothing in Agora gives effect to the rules of your nomic. -zefram
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Last resort
On 18 Nov 2008, at 16:41, Zefram wrote: Elliott Hird wrote: Therefore, Agora acknowledges that a nomic ruleset can have a jurisdiction larger than the domain of the game it defines the rules for. Not in general, no. That judgement is only that Agoran rules have infinite scope. Well that's very fair to other nomics ... perhaps we should platonically declare that all nomics are Protectorates? So, I'm starting a new game of nomic! Here are the rules: These rules are, of course, not the rules of Agora, to which CFJ 24 refers. Obviously. 4. ehird can create rules in Agora, This mechanism is trivially ineffective in Agora, because nothing in Agora gives effect to the rules of your nomic. Nothing in the laws of physics gives effect to the rules of Agora.
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Last resort
Elliott Hird wrote: perhaps we should platonically declare that all nomics are Protectorates? We could, but it doesn't seem very useful. Nothing in the laws of physics gives effect to the rules of Agora. Agora doesn't need the approval of the laws of physics. Agora is sovereign. -zefram
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Last resort
On Tue, 18 Nov 2008, Elliott Hird wrote: On 18 Nov 2008, at 16:41, Zefram wrote: Not in general, no. That judgement is only that Agoran rules have infinite scope. Well that's very fair to other nomics ... perhaps we should platonically declare that all nomics are Protectorates? Refinement: Infinite in *potential* scope. We could pass rules to so declare, but in the absence of said rules it is not so. -G.
