DIS: Re: BUS: PBA, milling

2009-01-07 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 10:45 PM, The PerlNomic Partnership
 wrote:
> The PNP withdraws one 3 crop from the PBA for ^14.
> The PNP withdraws one 7 crop from the PBA for ^14.
> Using a Division Mill, the PNP mills 3 / 7 = 2.
> The PNP deposits one 2 crop into the PBA to gain ^33.
> The PNP withdraws one 3 crop from the PBA for ^15.
> The PNP withdraws one 7 crop from the PBA for ^15.
> Using a Multiplication Mill, the PNP mills 3 * 7 = X.
> The PNP deposits one X crop into the PBA to gain ^33.

I'm assuming all of the above fails because the incorrect rates are
specified for the 7 withdrawals and 2 and X deposits.  The PBA also
had no 3 crops, but the PNP has plenty of its own so if the other bank
transactions worked so did the milling.


Re: DIS: Re: BUS: PBA, milling

2008-12-17 Thread Ed Murphy
ehird wrote:

> On 18 Dec 2008, at 00:18, comex wrote:
> 
>> On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 7:16 PM, Elliott Hird
>>  wrote:
>>> On 17 Dec 2008, at 23:59, The PerlNomic Partnership wrote:
> 
> 

You don't have to /shout/.


Re: DIS: Re: BUS: PBA, milling

2008-12-17 Thread Elliott Hird


On 18 Dec 2008, at 00:18, comex wrote:


On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 7:16 PM, Elliott Hird
 wrote:

On 17 Dec 2008, at 23:59, The PerlNomic Partnership wrote:








Re: DIS: Re: BUS: PBA, milling

2008-12-17 Thread comex
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 7:16 PM, Elliott Hird
 wrote:
> On 17 Dec 2008, at 23:59, The PerlNomic Partnership wrote:
>>
>


DIS: Re: BUS: PBA, milling

2008-12-17 Thread comex
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 6:59 PM, The PerlNomic Partnership
 wrote:
>


DIS: Re: BUS: PBA, milling

2008-12-17 Thread Elliott Hird


On 17 Dec 2008, at 23:59, The PerlNomic Partnership wrote:







Re: DIS: Re: BUS: PBA, milling

2008-12-12 Thread comex
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 4:46 AM, Alex Smith  wrote:
> The script assumes that ehird's PBA report is up to date. That has
> proven an incorrect assumption recently, such that we'll have to do some
> actions by hand to get its random-crops-obtained-by-mistake count down
> and its coin count up.

Why not use BobTHJ's report instead?


Re: DIS: Re: BUS: PBA, milling

2008-12-12 Thread Alex Smith
On Wed, 2008-12-10 at 16:23 -0700, Roger Hicks wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 16:09, The PerlNomic Partnership
>  wrote:
> > The PNP withdraws one 4 crop from the PBA for ^8.
> > The PNP withdraws one 4 crop from the PBA for ^9.
> > Using a Addition Mill, the PNP mills 4 + 4 = 8.
> > The PNP deposits one 8 crop into the PBA to gain ^26.
> > The PNP withdraws one 4 crop from the PBA for ^10.
> > The PNP withdraws one 4 crop from the PBA for ^11.
> > Using a Division Mill, the PNP mills 4 / 4 = 1.
> > The PNP deposits one 1 crop into the PBA to gain ^32.
> > The PNP withdraws one 4 crop from the PBA for ^12.
> > The PNP withdraws one 4 crop from the PBA for ^13.
> > Using a Multiplication Mill, the PNP mills 4 * 4 = 5.
> > The PNP deposits one 5 crop into the PBA to gain ^31.
> >
> >
> This all failsagain.
> 
> Any chance the script controlling these actions could be fixed to,
> say, occasionally submit a valid action?
> 
The script assumes that ehird's PBA report is up to date. That has
proven an incorrect assumption recently, such that we'll have to do some
actions by hand to get its random-crops-obtained-by-mistake count down
and its coin count up.
-- 
ais523



DIS: Re: BUS: PBA, milling

2008-12-10 Thread Roger Hicks
On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 16:09, The PerlNomic Partnership
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The PNP withdraws one 4 crop from the PBA for ^8.
> The PNP withdraws one 4 crop from the PBA for ^9.
> Using a Addition Mill, the PNP mills 4 + 4 = 8.
> The PNP deposits one 8 crop into the PBA to gain ^26.
> The PNP withdraws one 4 crop from the PBA for ^10.
> The PNP withdraws one 4 crop from the PBA for ^11.
> Using a Division Mill, the PNP mills 4 / 4 = 1.
> The PNP deposits one 1 crop into the PBA to gain ^32.
> The PNP withdraws one 4 crop from the PBA for ^12.
> The PNP withdraws one 4 crop from the PBA for ^13.
> Using a Multiplication Mill, the PNP mills 4 * 4 = 5.
> The PNP deposits one 5 crop into the PBA to gain ^31.
>
>
This all failsagain.

Any chance the script controlling these actions could be fixed to,
say, occasionally submit a valid action?

BobTHJ


DIS: Re: BUS: PBA, milling

2008-12-03 Thread Roger Hicks
On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 13:02, The PerlNomic Partnership
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The PNP withdraws one 4 crop from the PBA for ^8.
> The PNP withdraws one 4 crop from the PBA for ^9.
> Using a Addition Mill, the PNP mills 4 + 4 = 8.
> The PNP deposits one 8 crop into the PBA to gain ^26.
> The PNP withdraws one 4 crop from the PBA for ^10.
> The PNP withdraws one 4 crop from the PBA for ^11.
> Using a Division Mill, the PNP mills 4 / 4 = 1.
> The PNP deposits one 1 crop into the PBA to gain ^32.
> The PNP withdraws one 4 crop from the PBA for ^12.
> The PNP withdraws one 4 crop from the PBA for ^13.
> Using a Multiplication Mill, the PNP mills 4 * 4 = 5.
> The PNP deposits one 5 crop into the PBA to gain ^31.

This all fails as the PNP only had 2 coins to start with.

BobTHJ


DIS: Re: BUS: PBA, milling

2008-11-26 Thread Roger Hicks
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 10:33, The PerlNomic Partnership
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The PNP withdraws one 4 crop from the PBA for ^8.
> The PNP withdraws one 4 crop from the PBA for ^9.
Both of these fail. The PNP has insufficient coins for even one withdraw

> Using a Addition Mill, the PNP mills 4 + 4 = 8.
subsquently fails

> The PNP deposits one 8 crop into the PBA to gain ^26.
The PNP has an 8 crop still due to a previous botched transaction, but
this still fails because the incorrect rate is specified

> The PNP withdraws one 4 crop from the PBA for ^10.
> The PNP withdraws one 4 crop from the PBA for ^11.
> Using a Division Mill, the PNP mills 4 / 4 = 1.
> The PNP deposits one 1 crop into the PBA to gain ^32.
> The PNP withdraws one 4 crop from the PBA for ^12.
> The PNP withdraws one 4 crop from the PBA for ^13.
> Using a Multiplication Mill, the PNP mills 4 * 4 = 5.
> The PNP deposits one 5 crop into the PBA to gain ^31.
As a result all the rest of this fails.

BobTHJ


Re: DIS: Re: BUS: PBA, milling

2008-11-11 Thread Elliott Hird

On 11 Nov 2008, at 19:36, Roger Hicks wrote:


Unless I have something wrong this last milling failed because the PNP
only has one + mill. As a result the subsequent deposit of a 2 crop
also fails.



O Gastrnheseco, you must advance quicker.

--
ehird



DIS: Re: BUS: PBA, milling

2008-11-11 Thread Roger Hicks
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 18:43, The PerlNomic Partnership
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Using a Addition Mill, the PNP mills 4 + 9 = 2.
> The PNP deposits one 2 crop into the PBA to gain ^30.

Unless I have something wrong this last milling failed because the PNP
only has one + mill. As a result the subsequent deposit of a 2 crop
also fails.

FYI ehird, this changes your PBA report.


Re: DIS: Re: BUS: PBA, milling

2008-11-11 Thread Alex Smith
On Tue, 2008-11-11 at 09:14 +, Alex Smith wrote:
> On Mon, 2008-11-10 at 17:43 -0800, The PerlNomic Partnership wrote:
> > The PNP withdraws one 5 crop from the PBA for ^8.
> > The PNP withdraws one 5 crop from the PBA for ^9.
> > Using a Addition Mill, the PNP mills 5 + 5 = X.
> > The PNP deposits one X crop into the PBA to gain ^30.
Works, I think.
> > The PNP withdraws one 4 crop from the PBA for ^10.
> > The PNP withdraws one 7 crop from the PBA for ^14.
> > Using a Division Mill, the PNP mills 4 / 7 = X.
> > The PNP deposits one X crop into the PBA to gain ^29.
Also works, I think.
> > The PNP withdraws one 4 crop from the PBA for ^11.
> > The PNP withdraws one 9 crop from the PBA for ^13.
> > Using a Addition Mill, the PNP mills 4 + 9 = 2.
> > The PNP deposits one 2 crop into the PBA to gain ^30.
And this works too, I think.
> I think this all fails because it used an out-of-date PBA report and
> therefore got the rates wrong.
Ignore that, I forgot how the rates worked for a moment... (It's only 8
Crops which had the wrong rate on the PBA report it used, out of the PBA
assets which the PNP messes around with.)
-- 
ais523



DIS: Re: BUS: PBA, milling

2008-11-11 Thread Alex Smith
On Mon, 2008-11-10 at 17:43 -0800, The PerlNomic Partnership wrote:
> The PNP withdraws one 5 crop from the PBA for ^8.
> The PNP withdraws one 5 crop from the PBA for ^9.
> Using a Addition Mill, the PNP mills 5 + 5 = X.
> The PNP deposits one X crop into the PBA to gain ^30.
> The PNP withdraws one 4 crop from the PBA for ^10.
> The PNP withdraws one 7 crop from the PBA for ^14.
> Using a Division Mill, the PNP mills 4 / 7 = X.
> The PNP deposits one X crop into the PBA to gain ^29.
> The PNP withdraws one 4 crop from the PBA for ^11.
> The PNP withdraws one 9 crop from the PBA for ^13.
> Using a Addition Mill, the PNP mills 4 + 9 = 2.
> The PNP deposits one 2 crop into the PBA to gain ^30.
I think this all fails because it used an out-of-date PBA report and
therefore got the rates wrong.

(/me zooms off to look at the code to see if e can prevent that
happening again...)



Re: DIS: Re: BUS: PBA, milling

2008-11-04 Thread Roger Hicks
On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 10:55, Alex Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, 2008-11-04 at 17:51 +, Elliott Hird wrote:
>> On 4 Nov 2008, at 17:24, Roger Hicks wrote:
>>
>> > Take a look at my online log, but some of the deposits didn't happen
>> > due to the PnP not having the appropriate crops.
>>
>>
>> Yes, in the _up to date online report which is always available at
>> http://agora.eso-std.org/pba-report and is really cute and fluffy_
>> this is resolved.
>
> ehird: but it says something different to BobTHJ's resolution. In your
> version, the PNP didn't deposit any 2 Crops due to getting the rate
> wrong; in BobTHJ's version, it did.
>
I think the reports are in agreement now (apart from the RBOA Coins
issue). I'd like to make a second request for line breaks in the
transaction log of ehird's online reportit's a pain to navigate.

BobTHJ


Re: DIS: Re: BUS: PBA, milling

2008-11-04 Thread Alex Smith
On Tue, 2008-11-04 at 17:51 +, Elliott Hird wrote:
> On 4 Nov 2008, at 17:24, Roger Hicks wrote:
> 
> > Take a look at my online log, but some of the deposits didn't happen
> > due to the PnP not having the appropriate crops.
> 
> 
> Yes, in the _up to date online report which is always available at
> http://agora.eso-std.org/pba-report and is really cute and fluffy_  
> this is resolved.

ehird: but it says something different to BobTHJ's resolution. In your
version, the PNP didn't deposit any 2 Crops due to getting the rate
wrong; in BobTHJ's version, it did.

-- 
ais523



Re: DIS: Re: BUS: PBA, milling

2008-11-04 Thread Elliott Hird

On 4 Nov 2008, at 17:24, Roger Hicks wrote:


Take a look at my online log, but some of the deposits didn't happen
due to the PnP not having the appropriate crops.



Yes, in the _up to date online report which is always available at
http://agora.eso-std.org/pba-report and is really cute and fluffy_  
this is resolved.

--
ehird



Re: DIS: Re: BUS: PBA, milling

2008-11-04 Thread Roger Hicks
On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 15:09, Elliott Hird
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 2008-11-03 22:01 -- PNP withdraws a 5 crop for ^11. (originally wanted
> 2, but the bank didn't have that much) PNP deposits a X crop for ^34.
> PNP withdraws a 7 crop for ^13. PNP withdraws a 9 crop for ^14. PNP
> deposits a 2 crop for ^33. PNP attempts to withdraw a 5 crop for ^12.
> (fails, cost specified as ^13) PNP withdraws a 7 crop for ^14. PNP
> deposits a 2 crop for ^32. PNP attempts to withdraw 2 5 crops for ^25.
> (fails, cost specified as ^29) PNP deposits a X crop for ^33.
>
Take a look at my online log, but some of the deposits didn't happen
due to the PnP not having the appropriate crops.

BobTHJ


Re: DIS: Re: BUS: PBA, milling

2008-11-03 Thread Roger Hicks
On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 16:27, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ehird wrote:
>
>> On 3 Nov 2008, at 23:05, Ed Murphy wrote:
>>
>>> ehird wrote:
>>>
 2008-11-03 22:01 -- PNP withdraws a 5 crop for ^11. (originally
 wanted
 2, but the bank didn't have that much) PNP deposits a X crop for ^34.
 PNP withdraws a 7 crop for ^13. PNP withdraws a 9 crop for ^14. PNP
 deposits a 2 crop for ^33. PNP attempts to withdraw a 5 crop for ^12.
 (fails, cost specified as ^13) PNP withdraws a 7 crop for ^14. PNP
 deposits a 2 crop for ^32. PNP attempts to withdraw 2 5 crops for
 ^25.
 (fails, cost specified as ^29) PNP deposits a X crop for ^33.
>>> Line breaks plz.
>>>
>>
>>
>> And make the report even bigger? You kidding?
>
> I'll take increased height over decreased readability.
>
Agreed.

BobTHJ


Re: DIS: Re: BUS: PBA, milling

2008-11-03 Thread Ed Murphy
ehird wrote:

> On 3 Nov 2008, at 23:05, Ed Murphy wrote:
> 
>> ehird wrote:
>>
>>> 2008-11-03 22:01 -- PNP withdraws a 5 crop for ^11. (originally  
>>> wanted
>>> 2, but the bank didn't have that much) PNP deposits a X crop for ^34.
>>> PNP withdraws a 7 crop for ^13. PNP withdraws a 9 crop for ^14. PNP
>>> deposits a 2 crop for ^33. PNP attempts to withdraw a 5 crop for ^12.
>>> (fails, cost specified as ^13) PNP withdraws a 7 crop for ^14. PNP
>>> deposits a 2 crop for ^32. PNP attempts to withdraw 2 5 crops for  
>>> ^25.
>>> (fails, cost specified as ^29) PNP deposits a X crop for ^33.
>> Line breaks plz.
>>
> 
> 
> And make the report even bigger? You kidding?

I'll take increased height over decreased readability.



Re: DIS: Re: BUS: PBA, milling

2008-11-03 Thread Elliott Hird

On 3 Nov 2008, at 23:05, Ed Murphy wrote:


ehird wrote:

2008-11-03 22:01 -- PNP withdraws a 5 crop for ^11. (originally  
wanted

2, but the bank didn't have that much) PNP deposits a X crop for ^34.
PNP withdraws a 7 crop for ^13. PNP withdraws a 9 crop for ^14. PNP
deposits a 2 crop for ^33. PNP attempts to withdraw a 5 crop for ^12.
(fails, cost specified as ^13) PNP withdraws a 7 crop for ^14. PNP
deposits a 2 crop for ^32. PNP attempts to withdraw 2 5 crops for  
^25.

(fails, cost specified as ^29) PNP deposits a X crop for ^33.


Line breaks plz.




And make the report even bigger? You kidding?

--
ehird



Re: DIS: Re: BUS: PBA, milling

2008-11-03 Thread Ed Murphy
ehird wrote:

> 2008-11-03 22:01 -- PNP withdraws a 5 crop for ^11. (originally wanted
> 2, but the bank didn't have that much) PNP deposits a X crop for ^34.
> PNP withdraws a 7 crop for ^13. PNP withdraws a 9 crop for ^14. PNP
> deposits a 2 crop for ^33. PNP attempts to withdraw a 5 crop for ^12.
> (fails, cost specified as ^13) PNP withdraws a 7 crop for ^14. PNP
> deposits a 2 crop for ^32. PNP attempts to withdraw 2 5 crops for ^25.
> (fails, cost specified as ^29) PNP deposits a X crop for ^33.

Line breaks plz.



DIS: Re: BUS: PBA, milling

2008-11-03 Thread Elliott Hird

2008-11-03 22:01 -- PNP withdraws a 5 crop for ^11. (originally wanted
2, but the bank didn't have that much) PNP deposits a X crop for ^34.
PNP withdraws a 7 crop for ^13. PNP withdraws a 9 crop for ^14. PNP
deposits a 2 crop for ^33. PNP attempts to withdraw a 5 crop for ^12.
(fails, cost specified as ^13) PNP withdraws a 7 crop for ^14. PNP
deposits a 2 crop for ^32. PNP attempts to withdraw 2 5 crops for ^25.
(fails, cost specified as ^29) PNP deposits a X crop for ^33.


Re: DIS: Re: BUS: PBA, milling

2008-10-27 Thread Elliott Hird

On 27 Oct 2008, at 22:03, Roger Hicks wrote:


Prior to this the PNP only owned 3 crops, so it appears as if the
entire transaction fails.



OK.

--
ehird



Re: DIS: Re: BUS: PBA, milling

2008-10-27 Thread Roger Hicks
On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 15:01, Elliott Hird
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 27 Oct 2008, at 20:58, The PerlNomic Partnership wrote:
>
>> The PNP withdraws one 1 crop from the PBA for ^9.
>> The PNP withdraws one 1 crop from the PBA for ^10.
>> Using the Mill with the first name in alphabetical order out of eir
>> non-In Production Addition Mills, the PNP mills 1 + 1 = 2.
>> The PNP deposits one 2 crop into the PBA to gain ^37.
>> The PNP withdraws one 4 crop from the PBA for ^5.
>> The PNP withdraws one 7 crop from the PBA for ^11.
>> Using the Mill with the first name in alphabetical order out of eir
>> non-In Production Division Mills, the PNP mills 4 / 7 = X.
>> The PNP deposits one X crop into the PBA to gain ^29.
>> The PNP withdraws one 5 crop from the PBA for ^17.
>> The PNP withdraws one 7 crop from the PBA for ^12.
>> Using the Mill with the first name in alphabetical order out of eir
>> non-In Production Multiplication Mills, the PNP mills 5 * 7 = 2.
>> The PNP deposits one 2 crop into the PBA to gain ^36.
>> The PNP withdraws one 1 crop from the PBA for ^11.
>> The PNP withdraws one 1 crop from the PBA for ^12.
>> Using the Mill with the first name in alphabetical order out of eir
>> non-In Production Addition Mills, the PNP mills 1 + 1 = 2.
>> The PNP deposits one 2 crop into the PBA to gain ^35.
>
>
> Before all this the PNP only had 1 coin. So obviously some stuff fails, but
> as I don't
> know the RBoA, I'm waiting to hear from BobTHJ.
>
Prior to this the PNP only owned 3 crops, so it appears as if the
entire transaction fails.

BobTHJ


DIS: Re: BUS: PBA, milling

2008-10-27 Thread Elliott Hird

On 27 Oct 2008, at 20:58, The PerlNomic Partnership wrote:


The PNP withdraws one 1 crop from the PBA for ^9.
The PNP withdraws one 1 crop from the PBA for ^10.
Using the Mill with the first name in alphabetical order out of eir
non-In Production Addition Mills, the PNP mills 1 + 1 = 2.
The PNP deposits one 2 crop into the PBA to gain ^37.
The PNP withdraws one 4 crop from the PBA for ^5.
The PNP withdraws one 7 crop from the PBA for ^11.
Using the Mill with the first name in alphabetical order out of eir
non-In Production Division Mills, the PNP mills 4 / 7 = X.
The PNP deposits one X crop into the PBA to gain ^29.
The PNP withdraws one 5 crop from the PBA for ^17.
The PNP withdraws one 7 crop from the PBA for ^12.
Using the Mill with the first name in alphabetical order out of eir
non-In Production Multiplication Mills, the PNP mills 5 * 7 = 2.
The PNP deposits one 2 crop into the PBA to gain ^36.
The PNP withdraws one 1 crop from the PBA for ^11.
The PNP withdraws one 1 crop from the PBA for ^12.
Using the Mill with the first name in alphabetical order out of eir
non-In Production Addition Mills, the PNP mills 1 + 1 = 2.
The PNP deposits one 2 crop into the PBA to gain ^35.



Before all this the PNP only had 1 coin. So obviously some stuff  
fails, but as I don't

know the RBoA, I'm waiting to hear from BobTHJ.

--
ehird



DIS: Re: BUS: PBA, milling

2008-10-27 Thread Alex Smith
On Mon, 2008-10-27 at 13:58 -0700, The PerlNomic Partnership wrote:
> The PNP withdraws one 1 crop from the PBA for ^9.
> The PNP withdraws one 1 crop from the PBA for ^10.
> Using the Mill with the first name in alphabetical order out of eir
> non-In Production Addition Mills, the PNP mills 1 + 1 = 2.
> The PNP deposits one 2 crop into the PBA to gain ^37.
> The PNP withdraws one 4 crop from the PBA for ^5.
> The PNP withdraws one 7 crop from the PBA for ^11.
> Using the Mill with the first name in alphabetical order out of eir
> non-In Production Division Mills, the PNP mills 4 / 7 = X.
> The PNP deposits one X crop into the PBA to gain ^29.
> The PNP withdraws one 5 crop from the PBA for ^17.
> The PNP withdraws one 7 crop from the PBA for ^12.
> Using the Mill with the first name in alphabetical order out of eir
> non-In Production Multiplication Mills, the PNP mills 5 * 7 = 2.
> The PNP deposits one 2 crop into the PBA to gain ^36.
> The PNP withdraws one 1 crop from the PBA for ^11.
> The PNP withdraws one 1 crop from the PBA for ^12.
> Using the Mill with the first name in alphabetical order out of eir
> non-In Production Addition Mills, the PNP mills 1 + 1 = 2.
> The PNP deposits one 2 crop into the PBA to gain ^35.
The withdraws fail, the PNP didn't have as many Coins as it thought it
had (my transfer to it earlier failed). Whether the milling and deposits
work depend on its crop holdings, which I don't know.
-- 
ais523