Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Pragmatic rights and privileges

2008-09-24 Thread Kerim Aydin

On Wed, 24 Sep 2008, Ed Murphy wrote:
> How about defining "enabled rights" (e.g. deregistration, judicial
> action):
>
> and/or "natural rights" (e.g. performing unregulated actions):
>
I like this distinction.  Where would you put speech (e.g. fora).

-Goethe





Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Pragmatic rights and privileges

2008-09-24 Thread Ed Murphy
Goethe wrote:

> On Wed, 24 Sep 2008, Ed Murphy wrote:
>> Proposal:  Pragmatic rights and privileges
>> (AI = 3, II = 3, please)
>>
>> Amend Rule 101 (Agoran Rights and Privileges) to read:
>>
>>  Each person has the right to do the following things; these
>>  rights CANNOT be removed or restricted beyond reasonable effort
>>  by any interpretation of Agoran law or contract:
>>
>>1) Perform unregulated actions.
> 
> I think saying we CANNOT restrict performing unregulated actions 
> strengthens the ISID problem for unregulated actions.

How about defining "enabled rights" (e.g. deregistration, judicial
action):

  If no other method of exercising an enabled right exists,
  then a person CAN exercise it by informing the players
  generally that e does so.

and/or "natural rights" (e.g. performing unregulated actions):

  This rule does not grant the ability to exercise a natural
  right that would not be POSSIBLE even if no Agoran law or
  contract attempted to restrict it; such ability must be
  granted by another Agoran law or contract, or else must
  exist independently of the rules.

Similarly for privileges, I suppose.


DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Pragmatic rights and privileges

2008-09-24 Thread Kerim Aydin

On Wed, 24 Sep 2008, Ed Murphy wrote:
> Proposal:  Pragmatic rights and privileges
> (AI = 3, II = 3, please)
>
> Amend Rule 101 (Agoran Rights and Privileges) to read:
>
>  Each person has the right to do the following things; these
>  rights CANNOT be removed or restricted beyond reasonable effort
>  by any interpretation of Agoran law or contract:
>
>1) Perform unregulated actions.

I think saying we CANNOT restrict performing unregulated actions 
strengthens the ISID problem for unregulated actions.

-Goethe