Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Happy birthday!

2011-06-29 Thread Jonathan Rouillard
On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 4:11 PM, Sean Hunt scsh...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca wrote:
 On 06/29/11 12:45, Aaron Goldfein wrote:

 Agora can make its own decisions. If, at any time, Agora wishes to
 counteract a decision, then that decision, rules to the contrary
 notwithstanding, has no effect. The game of Agora, but not any player
 of it, can make arbitrary changes to the gamestate.

 I'd love this if it included some historical context for the players 5 years
 from now.

 WHEREAS Agora is now 18 years of age, and
 WHEREAS 18 years is the age of majority in a large majority of nations in
 the developed world, and
 etc.

 -scshunt


I support this. =)

~ Roujo


Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Happy birthday!

2011-06-29 Thread omd
On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 6:44 PM, Joshua Murphy math...@ymail.com wrote:
 Seconded.

 -Math321 aka Joshua aka Math321

FYI, you're still not sending in plain text.


Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Happy birthday!

2011-06-29 Thread Joshua Murphy

From: omd c.ome...@gmail.com
To: agora-discussion@agoranomic.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 6:51 PM
Subject: Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Happy birthday!

On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 6:44 PM, Joshua Murphy math...@ymail.com wrote:
 Seconded.

 -Math321 aka Joshua aka Math321

FYI, you're still not sending in plain text.
 

 
Sorry, I switched to plain text earlier but I guess it switched back.


Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Happy birthday!

2011-06-29 Thread Chuck Carroll
At 09:56 PM 6/29/2011, you wrote:
On 06/29/11 18:23, Chuck Carroll wrote:
I send many warm wishes to Agora and to all current and former Agorans on the 
occasion of Agora's 18th birthday.

Looking over the ruleset, I find myself doubly astonished at its state, 
compared to its state when I was last a player many years ago:
I am astonished at how much has changed;
I am astonished at how much has not changed.

But I suppose such is the nature of long-lasting Nomics, and in particular 
Agora: the wisest, noblest, and most interesting of all nomics (not merely 
active email nomics), and also the eldest of all active email nomics.

Chuck Carroll
Grand Hero of Agora Nomic

Do you care for the birthday celebration title?

Sean


I am content to remain a former player at this time, but thank you for asking.

Chuck



Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Happy Birthday

2009-06-29 Thread Roger Hicks
On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 11:06, Jonatan Kilhamnjonatan.kilh...@gmail.com wrote:
 2009/6/29 Roger Hicks pidge...@gmail.com:
 I spend Db D B to gain a Bb note.

 I spend 3 Db notes, 2 E notes, 5 Eb notes, 2 G notes, 2 A notes, 2 Ab
 notes, and 9 Bb notes (...)

 BobTHJ

 According to my records, you only have 7 Bb notes - 6 as of the last
 report on 17 June, none gained since then except your transposing just
 now, which makes 7. Have I missed something?

Crap, you're right. I screwed up.

BobTHJ


Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Happy Birthday!

2008-10-05 Thread Ed Murphy
Taral wrote:

 On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 5:52 AM, ehird [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 What comes next? o.o or O.O?
 
 O.O of course.

Ook!


Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Happy Birthday!

2008-10-04 Thread ehird


On 4 Oct 2008, at 03:03, Taral wrote:

On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 2:12 PM, ehird  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Why O.o?

(I'm younger than ihope, if O.o means you are young. :-P)


o.O

--
Taral [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Please let me know if there's any further trouble I can give you.
-- Unknown



What comes next? o.o or O.O?

--
ehird



Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Happy Birthday!

2008-10-04 Thread Taral
On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 5:52 AM, ehird [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 What comes next? o.o or O.O?

O.O of course.

-- 
Taral [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Please let me know if there's any further trouble I can give you.
-- Unknown


Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Happy Birthday!

2008-10-04 Thread ehird

On 4 Oct 2008, at 19:07, Taral wrote:

On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 5:52 AM, ehird  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

What comes next? o.o or O.O?


O.O of course.

--
Taral [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Please let me know if there's any further trouble I can give you.
-- Unknown



o.o

--
ehird



Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Happy Birthday!

2008-10-04 Thread ehird

On 4 Oct 2008, at 23:53, Ian Kelly wrote:

On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 2:13 PM, ehird  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 4 Oct 2008, at 19:07, Taral wrote:

On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 5:52 AM, ehird  
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

wrote:


What comes next? o.o or O.O?


O.O of course.

--
Taral [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Please let me know if there's any further trouble I can give you.
   -- Unknown



o.o


oO



ø_ø

--
ehird



Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Happy Birthday!

2008-10-04 Thread Ben Caplan
On Saturday 04 October 2008 01:07:11 pm Taral wrote:
 On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 5:52 AM, ehird 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  What comes next? o.o or O.O?

 O.O of course.

Eww, little-endianness?


Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Happy Birthday!

2008-10-04 Thread Taral
On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 9:13 PM, Ben Caplan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 O.O of course.

 Eww, little-endianness?

Unordered :P

-- 
Taral [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Please let me know if there's any further trouble I can give you.
-- Unknown


Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Happy Birthday!

2008-10-03 Thread Taral
On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 3:40 AM, ihope [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 And though we are both 15 years old, Agora is younger than me, alas.

O.o

-- 
Taral [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Please let me know if there's any further trouble I can give you.
-- Unknown


Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Happy Birthday!

2008-10-03 Thread ehird

On 3 Oct 2008, at 21:58, Taral wrote:


On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 3:40 AM, ihope [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

And though we are both 15 years old, Agora is younger than me, alas.


O.o



Why O.o?

(I'm younger than ihope, if O.o means you are young. :-P)

--
ehird



Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Happy Birthday!

2008-10-03 Thread Taral
On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 2:12 PM, ehird [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Why O.o?

 (I'm younger than ihope, if O.o means you are young. :-P)

o.O

-- 
Taral [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Please let me know if there's any further trouble I can give you.
-- Unknown


Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Happy Birthday!

2008-10-02 Thread ais523
On Thu, 2008-10-02 at 17:19 +0100, Zefram wrote:
 ais523 wrote:
 Date: 30 June 1993 00:04:30 +1200
 
 It's a pity the Truthfulness rule is gone.  This would have been a
 great CFJ.
 
Just in case people argue about which header is correct, there's an
X-Date-Stamp header saying the same thing. That one's definitely a date
stamp!
-- 
ais523


Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Happy Birthday!

2008-10-02 Thread ais523
On Thu, 2008-10-02 at 17:25 +0100, Zefram wrote:
 ais523 wrote:
 X-Date-Stamp header saying the same thing. That one's definitely a date
 stamp!
 
 Saying it doesn't make it so.
 
Well, I think it's pretty uncontroversially a date stamp, albeit one
with the wrong date on. The scam itself fails for all sorts of reasons
(for instance, there's a 1 in 2 chance that Agora (then yoyo) didn't
exist at the date stated, depending on the milliseconds fields), but I
wanted to spark some discussion.
-- 
ais523


Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Happy Birthday!

2008-10-02 Thread Zefram
ais523 wrote:
Well, I think it's pretty uncontroversially a date stamp,

I controvert it.  It was not stamped on the message, in the usual meaning
of the term.  It was not added as part of a regular process, nor in a
manner that would be expected to normally give an accurate record of
the current date.

The scam itself fails for all sorts of reasons

Not least because you, er, didn't actually send the message in 1993.

-zefram


Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Happy Birthday!

2008-10-02 Thread Zefram
Ian Kelly wrote:
Thorny part: the time of day is not part of the date

It is if you're dealing with timezones.  Our date stamps have resolution
finer than one day; I see no contradiction here.

-zefram


Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Happy Birthday!

2008-10-02 Thread Ian Kelly
On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 10:52 AM, Zefram [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Ian Kelly wrote:
Thorny part: the time of day is not part of the date

 It is if you're dealing with timezones.  Our date stamps have resolution
 finer than one day; I see no contradiction here.

Agora has no time zones.  Days begin at midnight UTC.

-root


Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Happy Birthday!

2008-10-02 Thread ehird

On 2 Oct 2008, at 18:01, comex wrote:

I wish ehird had tried that.  E would have sent the message before  
eir birth.


I asked ais523 about that, and probably if that kind of time-travel  
did work,

it'd just be an email from a non-person.


Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Happy Birthday!

2008-10-02 Thread Zefram
comex wrote:
I wish ehird had tried that.  E would have sent the message before eir birth.

Woo, we have a player younger than the game?  Now Agora's really grown up.

-zefram


Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Happy Birthday!

2008-10-02 Thread Ian Kelly
On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 10:33 AM, Zefram [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 ais523 wrote:
Well, I think it's pretty uncontroversially a date stamp,

 I controvert it.  It was not stamped on the message, in the usual meaning
 of the term.  It was not added as part of a regular process, nor in a
 manner that would be expected to normally give an accurate record of
 the current date.

Indeed, dictionary.com lists exactly one definition for date-stamp:
to stamp the date on, as with a date stamp.  Not to stamp *a* date
on.

Thorny part: the time of day is not part of the date and so cannot be
date-stamped.  So I could presumably alter a message's headers to
claim that it was sent at midnight this morning, and it would still be
considered date-stamped.

-root


Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Happy Birthday!

2008-10-02 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 1:08 PM, Zefram [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 comex wrote:
I wish ehird had tried that.  E would have sent the message before eir birth.

 Woo, we have a player younger than the game?  Now Agora's really grown up.

When I was your age, we didn't have fancy online nomics.  We had to
walk 2 miles uphill in the snow to get to a face-to-face game.  Now
get off my lawn!


Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Happy Birthday!

2008-10-02 Thread ehird

On 2 Oct 2008, at 18:08, Zefram wrote:


comex wrote:
I wish ehird had tried that.  E would have sent the message before  
eir birth.


Woo, we have a player younger than the game?  Now Agora's really  
grown up.


-zefram


I seem to recall ihope is 15, I don't know if e's older or younger  
than the game,

though. (For the record, I was born in 1995.)


Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Happy Birthday!

2008-10-02 Thread Ed Murphy
comex wrote:

 On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 12:33 PM, Zefram [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Not least because you, er, didn't actually send the message in 1993.
 
 I wish ehird had tried that.  E would have sent the message before eir birth.

Dammit, now you're making me feel old.  (I was in college in 1993.)