[graphics-issues] [Issue 7998] display equations for regre ssion lines
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=7998 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Sep 13 18:57:34 + 2007 --- @bm First of all, thanks for working on this issue. :-) 1. OOo is for free, it is open-source. Everybody can participate in its development. I admit that getting started with OOo development is not easy, but it is possible, and there have been patch submissions for bugs and features in the chart already. And nobody who wrote anything into this issue can blame us for not dealing with this feature for five years. If this was important to you, you would have had five years to implement this yourself. Should be no problem (according to those people). The fact that OpenOffice.org is free doesn't count much. SUN decided to distribute it for free, and it is not a justification for lack of feature or slow development. Telling that if nobody added this feature, the feature is not important is not exact. Many users have not enough knowledge nor time to learn to add features to OOo, but an expert coder should not have many issues. The algorithms are out there in all languages, and efficiently implemented in various libraries, among which there's GSL. 2. OOo is developed in a community. That means that there is no us and you. We do not have the duty to do anything you want. We all have to work together in a constructive way. As long as all the (two) developers for the chart are payed by Sun Microsystems, it should also be clear that the influence of this company to decide what features are implemented in which order, is quite high. There evidently is a you (developers) and a us (users). And a lot of OOo users can't code, but you are right, we should work together. To do this however, it is necessary to communicate. And if it's true no one suggested how to implement this feature, no one asked for ideas and tried to communicate with users' community, so the responsibility is on both sides. I can understand that SUN influence is high, but if they ignored the chart module for such a long time, they clearly have some issues in their decision process. Just consider these two points: - The XY plot is the most used in schools, and in a XY plot usually sets have different number of elements. Trend lines and error bars are widely used too. The lack of these functionalities directly excluded OOo from the adoption in schools and universities, but also in labs and scientific institutes. - Having functionalities required in schools is having a product which probably will be adopted on a wider scale, because if people use it at school, they will use it for their work too. 3. Most of the people in the world are not scientists. Most of the people working with OOo don't know what a regression curve is. Even more people don't know what R^2 is. Just keep this in mind, when thinking about priorities of features. Right. But most people go to school. Most people, at least once in their life plays with plots, curves, analytical geometry, experimental data. It's quite common to do lab experiments in high school for example, and to have to process small amount of data, plot them to compare their trends and so on. A good spreadsheet can be used in various ways for educational purposes. With kind regards. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[graphics-issues] [Issue 366] Select 'Range' for error bar s
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=366 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Apr 13 13:32:16 + 2007 --- @enmane: I downloaded and tested the new chart, and I'm disappointed. But I also gave up with calc anf I go on using Excel, which still is far superior in many fields. It's impossible after such a long time not to have basic (yes, they are basic and not advanced as someone think) functionalies like non-linear regressions. I'm not interested in seeing a plot of the regression, but in obtaining an equation in some click without using a different application. This and other features are postponed without a clear reason, and help from users is not accepted if not in terms of an already ready solution. It's really sad to say, but in this way OOo is going nowhere. Regards - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[www-issues] [Issue 366] Select 'Range' for error bar s
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=366 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Apr 13 13:32:16 + 2007 --- @enmane: I downloaded and tested the new chart, and I'm disappointed. But I also gave up with calc anf I go on using Excel, which still is far superior in many fields. It's impossible after such a long time not to have basic (yes, they are basic and not advanced as someone think) functionalies like non-linear regressions. I'm not interested in seeing a plot of the regression, but in obtaining an equation in some click without using a different application. This and other features are postponed without a clear reason, and help from users is not accepted if not in terms of an already ready solution. It's really sad to say, but in this way OOo is going nowhere. Regards - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[www-issues] [Issue 366] Select 'Range' for error bar s
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=366 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Apr 13 14:14:51 + 2007 --- @pagalmes Sorry, I didn't mean to flame. I was just commenting and explaining my point of view. I also recognize the good work done on other parts of OOo like writer, which is superior to Word in my opinion, and thanks to Novell efforts now is more compatible with the MS formats too. Regards - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[graphics-issues] [Issue 366] Select 'Range' for error bar s
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=366 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Apr 13 14:14:51 + 2007 --- @pagalmes Sorry, I didn't mean to flame. I was just commenting and explaining my point of view. I also recognize the good work done on other parts of OOo like writer, which is superior to Word in my opinion, and thanks to Novell efforts now is more compatible with the MS formats too. Regards - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[graphics-issues] [Issue 7998] display equations for regre ssion lines
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=7998 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Jan 13 11:55:31 -0800 2007 --- This feature has been requested many times (since OOo 1.0.1!) because it is really necessary both for compatibility with Excel, and also to increase the adoption of OpenOffice.org. Actually I was expecting this feature to be included in the new Chart module by default, considering how many times it was requested, but I understand it's not easy to implement it. However I'd really prefer to see even an ugly temporary solution instead of nothing. I work on Linux and each time I've to do regressions, I have to switch to grace to do them, with a significant time loss. I really don't understand why it wasn't added before by companies which develop a personalised edition of OOo like Novell. Maybe some help could come from them. So...my votes to this request with the hope to see it soon implemented ;-) - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[www-issues] [Issue 366] Select 'Range' for error bar s
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=366 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Oct 5 14:09:50 -0700 2006 --- I can only partially agree with discoleo. Using external applications for advanced statistical analysis is probably the best choice from a technical point of view. However there's no doubt that the absence of statistical tools in OpenOffice represents a serious limitation for users and, as consequence, for the adoption of OpenOffice in many work places such as labs, schools, universties. I think more factors should be considered. Using external applications requires the user to install and learn how to use them, which is usually more difficult than working with a spreadsheet. For example, doing a regression in Excel is just some click. Also, another important factor is that many applications used to manage analysis instruments in labs save data in a spreadsheet format (usually xls). So it's immediate to manipulate data in Excel or Calc, while it would require conversions to use external software. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[graphics-issues] [Issue 366] Select 'Range' for error bar s
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=366 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Oct 5 14:09:50 -0700 2006 --- I can only partially agree with discoleo. Using external applications for advanced statistical analysis is probably the best choice from a technical point of view. However there's no doubt that the absence of statistical tools in OpenOffice represents a serious limitation for users and, as consequence, for the adoption of OpenOffice in many work places such as labs, schools, universties. I think more factors should be considered. Using external applications requires the user to install and learn how to use them, which is usually more difficult than working with a spreadsheet. For example, doing a regression in Excel is just some click. Also, another important factor is that many applications used to manage analysis instruments in labs save data in a spreadsheet format (usually xls). So it's immediate to manipulate data in Excel or Calc, while it would require conversions to use external software. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[graphics-issues] [Issue 5289] TrendLine/graphing function ality in OpenOffice
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=5289 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Aug 24 03:01:25 -0700 2006 --- I tested the new chart implementation, but I was surprised not to see any check box or button to show the equation of the regression curve. I know the chart module is still under development, but this feature is widely used in Excel and I think it should be present. Will it be implemented? Regards, Alberto - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[graphics-issues] [Issue 7998] display equations for regr ession lines
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=7998 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Jul 29 14:35:02 -0700 2005 --- Any news on the development of this feature? It's lack is no longher acceptable in a professional tool like OpenOffice. It's not an enhancement, it's an essential fuctionality for scientific purposes! When it will be added? Will be the graphics creation be modified to make it more usable? Regards - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[www-issues] [Issue 366] Select 'Range' for error bars
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=366 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Feb 16 08:10:58 -0800 2005 --- You're right derekhtodd, this post is about error bars, but others issues refers to this also for trend lines and their equations. Regards, ap - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[www-issues] [Issue 366] Select 'Range' for error bars
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=366 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Feb 16 11:29:26 -0800 2005 --- I looked for them and found: 23909, 22740, 25277, 28458 and 40578. However, you've already clarified that they are not a duplicate of 366 :-) Thank you, ap - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[graphics-issues] [Issue 366] Select 'Range' for error bars
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=366 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Feb 16 11:29:26 -0800 2005 --- I looked for them and found: 23909, 22740, 25277, 28458 and 40578. However, you've already clarified that they are not a duplicate of 366 :-) Thank you, ap - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[www-issues] [Issue 366] Select 'Range' for error bars
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=366 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Feb 13 11:58:59 -0800 2005 --- I've just downloaded OpenOffice.org 1.9.74 for SuSE, and I was really surprised that this functionality is still lacking. Will it be available in the final release of OO 2.0? I looked for information on this functionality and the best I found is a macro called FitOO, which is discussed in the French forum of OpenOffice.org. The macro is available at http://oooconv.free.fr/ However, it's not as easy as in Excel. As already said by many other users, this is not an enhancement, but the lack of an important feature. My work is based on data analysis, and I don't want to create columns or use any other workaround if I can do that with a single click on Excel. I don't understand why it's so difficult to add such a functionality. Calc already plots the regression curve, so it calculates its coefficients. Few lines of code will add the capability to show the equation in a text box. Few lines of code which would make Calc more useful for a lot of people in the scientific world! I consider this feature a *lot more important* than the new logo for OpenOffice.org 2.0, which could be the same of 1.1. with just the release number changed! Regards, ap - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[graphics-issues] [Issue 366] Select 'Range' for error bars
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=366 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Feb 13 11:58:59 -0800 2005 --- I've just downloaded OpenOffice.org 1.9.74 for SuSE, and I was really surprised that this functionality is still lacking. Will it be available in the final release of OO 2.0? I looked for information on this functionality and the best I found is a macro called FitOO, which is discussed in the French forum of OpenOffice.org. The macro is available at http://oooconv.free.fr/ However, it's not as easy as in Excel. As already said by many other users, this is not an enhancement, but the lack of an important feature. My work is based on data analysis, and I don't want to create columns or use any other workaround if I can do that with a single click on Excel. I don't understand why it's so difficult to add such a functionality. Calc already plots the regression curve, so it calculates its coefficients. Few lines of code will add the capability to show the equation in a text box. Few lines of code which would make Calc more useful for a lot of people in the scientific world! I consider this feature a *lot more important* than the new logo for OpenOffice.org 2.0, which could be the same of 1.1. with just the release number changed! Regards, ap - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[graphics-issues] [Issue 5289] TrendLine/graphing functionality in OpenOffice
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=5289 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Feb 13 15:01:28 -0800 2005 --- Another important feature, like issue 366, re-targeted to OOo Later...I don't understand. This feature is essential to scientific workers. Please, reconsider it. Regards, ap78 - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
