[installation-issues] [Issue 72921] distribute installation pa ckage as .tar.gz

2006-12-24 Thread garyemiller
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Dec 24 13:13:00 -0800 
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[installation-issues] [Issue 44102] Where are the install fil es? RPMs are useless

2005-10-20 Thread garyemiller
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Oct 19 13:51:37 -0700 
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GNU/Linux is about standards.  RPM is NOT a standard.  Using RPMS might be
justified if you were using them for anything other than a glorified tar.  Wores
yet, a tar that has to be told to ignore all it's error checking to get the OO
installed.  Sure most distros have an rpm mode, but since they are not the
native installer they know nothing of the few dependencies that your RPMs are
looking for.

Folks change distros every few years, OO 2.0 is such a great product I need to
deploy it much quicker than that.  I can not wait for every laptop to be
upgraded to the newest distro to get OO.  I need it as soon as it is released,
all over.

Why is wrapping a few tar files in a shell script so hard?  It is portable, it
is standards compliant, it is easy to modify for special needs.  RPMs are none
of that.  Simple scripts work for XFree, Xorg, Nvidia and many other universal
binaries.  Why this insistence on such a bizarre thing as RPMs?  Where is the
benefit? 

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[installation-issues] [Issue 48408] RPM update from 1.9.79 to 1.9.95

2005-07-06 Thread garyemiller
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Resolution|WORKSFORME|





--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Jul  6 10:54:30 -0700 
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 I installed OOom113 next to OOom104 on Ubuntu-Linux (which is surely no
 rpm-based distribution) using the rpms downloaded from www.openoffice.org...
 Both installations were useable and I didn't get your problem...

Yes, the 113 works much better.  It still requires quite a bit of digging in 
the 
man pages to figure out which switches in the rpm program you need.  This
is not gonna work for the average user.  How about looking to the NVIDIA, Xfree
and Xorg install processes?  They provide some bulletproof scripts to run.



maybe rpm2tgz/rpm2targz is a tool you could use?
http://www.frozenblue.net/tools/slack-book/?op=package-management-package-utilities.html#PACKAGE-MANAGEMENT-PACKAGE-UTILITIES-RPM

Sure, I can use a tool like that, but when helping my Realtor friend on the
phone that is NOT going to work.  The old OO installer worked just fine, the new
one, in windows and linux, is adding to my call volume when I recommend OO. 
THis is causing me to recommend OO to many fewer people than before.



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[installation-issues] [Issue 48408] RPM update from 1.9.79 to 1.9.95

2005-05-11 Thread garyemiller
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed May 11 12:47:14 -0700 
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Same problem updating to 1.9.100

# rpm --install --nodeps *rpm
/tmp/install.13916: rpm: command not found
/tmp/install.13916: [: ==: unary operator expected
/tmp/install.13950: rpm: command not found
/tmp/install.13950: [: ==: unary operator expected
/tmp/install.14011: rpm: command not found
/tmp/install.14011: [: ==: unary operator expected
/tmp/install.14022: rpm: command not found
/tmp/install.14022: [: ==: unary operator expected
/tmp/install.14036: rpm: command not found
/tmp/install.14036: [: ==: unary operator expected
hobbes:/usr/local/archive/OO/RPMS-1.9.100# /tmp/install.14055: rpm: command not
found
/tmp/install.14055: [: ==: unary operator expected


Also tried in on a clean Slackware 10.0 and that just seg faults, no install
possible.

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[gsl-issues] [Issue 48524] Printing to foo2zjs broken

2005-05-10 Thread garyemiller
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue May 10 17:53:27 -0700 
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Gotta bit more info on this one.  If I print to file, then use lp to print
the file it all works.  So the problem must be how the job is submitted to cups
directly.

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[installation-issues] [Issue 48408] RPM update from 1.9.79 to 1.9.95

2005-05-10 Thread garyemiller
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue May 10 18:03:27 -0700 
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Dunno where you are looking on distrowatch.  The top 3 for the last 12 months
are Mandriva, Fedora and Ubuntu.  Ubuntu, Mandriva and MEPIS for the last 3
months.  

It hardly matters since IMHO most people that have rpm distros do not use the
rpms due to their limitations.  Even for those distros and installations that do
you are basing your install on package names that are not standard (/bin/sh!)
thereby negating any advantage to rpms.

You HAD a solution that worked on every Linux I know of and you are tossing it
away for a grossly inferior solution.  Trying to support the native package type
for all 400+ linux distros is a loosing battle. 

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[installation-issues] [Issue 49051] New - RPM install coredumps on slackare 10.0

2005-05-10 Thread garyemiller
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  Issue #:|49051
  Summary:|RPM install coredumps on slackare 10.0
Component:|Installation
  Version:|OOo 2.0 Beta
 Platform:|PC
  URL:|
   OS/Version:|Linux
   Status:|UNCONFIRMED
Status whiteboard:|
 Keywords:|
   Resolution:|
   Issue type:|DEFECT
 Priority:|P1
 Subcomponent:|code
  Assigned to:|of
  Reported by:|garyemiller





--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue May 10 20:07:58 -0700 
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I am trying to install 1.9.100 in slackware 10.0.  Never had a problem with OO
1.0 but the new RPMS get worse and worse.  Managed to get 1.9.79 to install
after some non-obvious futzing  Now I get seg faults when installing 1.9.100:

# rpm --install openofficeorg-core01-1.9.100-1.i586.rpm
error: failed dependencies:
/bin/sh   is needed by openofficeorg-core01-1.9.100-1

# rpm --install --nodeps openofficeorg-core01-1.9.100-1.i586.rpm
Segmentation fault

Bring back the old installer!

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[installation-issues] [Issue 48408] RPM update from 1.9.79 to 1.9.95

2005-05-02 Thread garyemiller
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon May  2 10:40:54 -0700 
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I am using a lot of different distros, but the one I use the most is Slackware
10.0.  On top of that I had to find a pretty old rpm to find the source to rpm
in a tar.gz.  With old rpm I could then get the new rpm version 4.0.2 to
install.  Since slackware does not use RPMs the dependency tree is then empty. 
I could live with that, until 1.9.79 got installed and then I could figure no
way to install 1.9.95 alongside it for testing.  Since 1.9.95 does not work with
my printer I had to then do rel upgliness to get 1.9.79 back yet leaving 1.9.95
for testing.

Please just bring back the old installer!  It just always worked right.

Hmm, interesting pointer to the sources, but since the binaries almost work why
would I want to do that?

RGDS
GARY

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[gsl-issues] [Issue 48524] Printing to foo2zjs broken

2005-05-02 Thread garyemiller
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon May  2 13:40:58 -0700 
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Minor typo, my printer is a Minolta 2430DL.  Here is the URL on the product:
http://printer.konicaminolta.net/products/color/mc2430DL/index.asp

Here is the Linux Printing page on the printer:

http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Minolta-magicolor_2430_DL

Here is the foo2zjs driver home page:

http://foo2zjs.rkkda.com/

I am using ESP Ghostsctipt version 8.15rc3

The printer works fine with Gimp and earlier versions of OO.

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[gsl-issues] [Issue 48524] New - Printing to foo2zjs broken

2005-05-01 Thread garyemiller
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  Issue #:|48524
  Summary:|Printing to foo2zjs broken
Component:|gsl
  Version:|OOo 2.0 Beta
 Platform:|PC
  URL:|
   OS/Version:|Linux
   Status:|UNCONFIRMED
Status whiteboard:|
 Keywords:|
   Resolution:|
   Issue type:|DEFECT
 Priority:|P3
 Subcomponent:|code
  Assigned to:|cp
  Reported by:|garyemiller





--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun May  1 17:08:28 -0700 
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OpenOffice beta 1.9.7 works fine with my Minolta 2340DL using the foo2zjs driver
under Linux.  When I upgraded to 1.9.95 printing is now broken.  The printer
returns a usless unsupported format by IPP.   Downgrading to 1.9.79 fixes it
again.  

Of course downgrading using rpms on a non-rpm system is a pain all by itself...

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[installation-issues] [Issue 48408] New - RPM update from 1.9.79 to 1.9.95

2005-04-28 Thread garyemiller
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  Issue #:|48408
  Summary:|RPM update from 1.9.79 to  1.9.95
Component:|Installation
  Version:|OOo 2.0 Beta
 Platform:|PC
  URL:|
   OS/Version:|Linux
   Status:|UNCONFIRMED
Status whiteboard:|
 Keywords:|
   Resolution:|
   Issue type:|DEFECT
 Priority:|P3
 Subcomponent:|code
  Assigned to:|of
  Reported by:|garyemiller





--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Apr 28 17:48:45 -0700 
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Using RPMs on no RPM based linux systems is problematic.  After a few days of
trying, I got rpm installed.  Do you know you can not find rpm source in a
tar.gz?  rpm source only comes as an srpm?  Chicken, Egg?

Soi I got 1.9.79 installed.  Love it.  So then I update to 1.9.95.  Once again
I have to fake out the broken dependencies, but it alos will not install
alongside the old Beta.  Only way I can get it to install is an as Update.  Not
happy about that, especially in a beta.

So then I get all these ugly message in the install. I would like to tell you
what is going wrong, but of course the rpm installer deletes the tmp files.

# rpm -U --nodeps  *rpm
which: no update-mime-database in (/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin)
/tmp/install.12696: rpm: command not found
/tmp/install.12696: [: ==: unary operator expected
which: no update-desktop-database in 
(/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin)
/tmp/install.12756: rpm: command not found
/tmp/install.12756: [: ==: unary operator expected
/tmp/install.12768: rpm: command not found
/tmp/install.12768: [: ==: unary operator expected
/tmp/install.12793: rpm: command not found
/tmp/install.12793: [: ==: unary operator expected
/tmp/install.12812: rpm: command not found
/tmp/install.12812: [: ==: unary operator expected
/var/local/tmp/rpm-tmp.41005: update-menus: command not found
error: execution of %post scriptlet from
openofficeorg-mandrakelinux-menus-1.9.95-1 failed, exit status 127
/tmp/install.12852: rpm: command not found
/tmp/install.12852: [: ==: unary operator expected
hobbes:/usr/local/archive/OO/RPMS# /tmp/install.12907: rpm: command not found
/tmp/install.12907: [: ==: unary operator expected

Not sure what bad assumptions your install script made.  2 minutes of testing
and the install looks fine.  This is OK for a hacker like me, but the old
installer was way more user friendly and robust.  Never had problems like this
with OO 1.

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[installation-issues] [Issue 44102] Where are the install files? RPMs are useless

2005-03-13 Thread garyemiller
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Mar 13 15:02:50 -0800 
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I do no belive Cannot is a major exageration in this case.  Check out
www.rpm.org.  The only way you can get current binaries or source to rpm is in
an rpm!  If your host does not have a native RPM then you need to go through
some strange bootstrapping.  Or as they helpfully suggest The best way to get
RPM is to install Red Hat Linux..  Neither option is something I can get the
average Linux user to do.

I finally managed to bootstrap an rpm on my system, and found the only
dependenciy was on /bin/sh.  All that work, which few others will bother with,
to find out that?  Then since I had not been using rpms I had to override that
dependency.

Bring back the old installer!  The only reason I see to use the new installer is
to encourage people to buy RedHat.

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[installation-issues] [Issue 44102] New - Where are the install files? RPMs are useless

2005-03-04 Thread garyemiller
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  Issue #:|44102
  Summary:|Where are the install files?  RPMs are useless
Component:|Installation
  Version:|OOo 2.0 Beta
 Platform:|All
  URL:|
   OS/Version:|All
   Status:|UNCONFIRMED
Status whiteboard:|
 Keywords:|
   Resolution:|
   Issue type:|DEFECT
 Priority:|P5
 Subcomponent:|code
  Assigned to:|of
  Reported by:|garyemiller





--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Mar  4 11:11:30 -0800 
2005 ---
Where are the install files?  RPMs are useless to me.  I have Linux systems that
are 5 and even 10 years old that have been continuously updated.  No way any RPM
system will ever grok such bastard children.  The OO 1.0 install worked just
fine, I need the same thing for OO 2.0

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