[sw-issues] [Issue 90382] darwin information type ar chitecture DITA support

2008-06-04 Thread hgkamath
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 Issue #|90382
 Summary|darwin information type architecture DITA support
   Component|Word processor
 Version|OOo 2.4.0
Platform|Unknown
 URL|
  OS/Version|All
  Status|UNCONFIRMED
   Status whiteboard|
Keywords|
  Resolution|
  Issue type|FEATURE
Priority|P4
Subcomponent|formatting
 Assigned to|mru
 Reported by|hgkamath





--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Jun  5 01:03:02 + 
2008 ---
DITA is primarily a way to author content in XML which enforces structure. It
allows for topic reuse, and a piece of text written for one objective can be
repurposed and included in another  by just using a mapping file (as opposed to
cutting and pasting required text from all the sources). Then by means of XSL
transformations it applies styles to the validated XML documents. Then other
software components render the style applied document tailored to a variety of
formats on a variety of medium.

ODF is one such open format, a very good one compared to of several formats
open/proprietary, convenient for editing daily documents on a desktop. Writer is
mainly for text processing, is targeted to an audience who need to create
regular office documents. DITA is for situation where pieces of text from a vast
number of sources need to be reused, which happens more often in software
manuals, and other product documentations.

DITA authoring overlaps into a domain that competes with XML editors, several of
which already exist and are very good at what they do. However basic xml
authoring can be provided so that DITA confirming XML documents can authored
within the office.

The benefit to openoffice/ODF is that if the DITA method as the primary means
for authoring content, ODF can become a first preferred choice as a final 
format.

Since the internals of ODF and openoffice are also XML based formats, it should
be a direct add on component to allow structured editing, along lines of DITA
architecture like maps, topics, references and other specializations.

Being a odf user for a few years, and also having recently introduced myself to
topic oriented writing in framemaker,  I am filing this bug because 
a) Seem like ODF and DITA (darwin information type architecture) can complement
one another. The don't compete in the same space, so there is no reason to
preclude support for DITA.
b) I didn't find a feature request while searching for DITA, please excuse me if
there already is one. Its just reassuring to see an issue/feature request,
oo.orgs and other's opinions, even if closed, than not see one.

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[sw-issues] [Issue 74144] document cannot be saved i f forbidden characters pasted

2007-07-28 Thread hgkamath
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Jul 28 18:18:50 + 
2007 ---
Created an attachment (id=47170)
The Comprehensive LATEX Symbol List attaching as suggested by TL


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[ui-issues] [Issue 31190] Simplify Memory Options

2007-03-22 Thread hgkamath
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Mar 22 23:43:05 + 
2007 ---
Including herein for reference:
issue 75496
The suggestion given there is to manipulate memory option.


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[sw-issues] [Issue 75497] [EN] Limits spelt as Limes in selection window

2007-03-21 Thread hgkamath
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Mar 21 07:10:56 + 
2007 ---

pardon my ignorance, I see what you intend. 
You're calling the letters l-i-m as limes, and referring to the from{} and
to{} parts as limits.

Perhaps its smart not to give tooltips in the symbol selection window.
Other software smartly avoid this problem, this way

I guess its ok to close the bug, once you educate the user as to why 
you call it so, on the other hand perhaps this dialog panel itself 
needs a closer look as to whether the words are really correct in 
various languages, if you really want to give tooltips.

The problem, and source of confusion, is, in English no-one calls l-i-m limes.
and the from{} and to{} parts are called different things depending on the 
function
In the case of integration they are called limits.
In the case of summation they are called  indexes of summation
And in the case of the limit function, from {} just indicates to what various
variables tend to what by using an arrow arrow
In the case of unions oper unicode-U from {a in A} they refer to sets.

For haste and lack of a better reference I'll just pointing to wikipedia.
as I tried to look some things this up after reading your comments.

The original word is from the latin noun limes
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limes

In German, the spelling remains limes meaning frontiers , 
as in the case of the roman 'Limes Germanicus'
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limes_Germanicus 

Also in German, the mathematical terms uses limes as the spelling
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limes_%28Mathematik%29

In English however there has been some transformation 
and the usage is limit, as in speed limit or The sky is the limit 
and has various similar meanings to 'final' as given in the link
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?r=1q=limit

Also in English, the mathematical terms use limit as in
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limit
The keyword lim indicates the limit function and is read as limit of the
function f(x) as x tends to something

The three buttons on the right are probably better referred to as 
 summation with indexes. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Summation)
 text below modifier
 text above modifier

Another reason why it looks funny is that lime(s) is a well known citric fruit.
and through-out schooling the l-i-m is always referred to as limit



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[sw-issues] [Issue 75496] performance penalty after 21st conversion to formula object via macro

2007-03-17 Thread hgkamath
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 Issue #|75496
 Summary|performance penalty after 21st conversion to formula o
|bject via macro
   Component|Formula editor
 Version|OOo 2.1
Platform|All
 URL|
  OS/Version|All
  Status|UNCONFIRMED
   Status whiteboard|
Keywords|
  Resolution|
  Issue type|DEFECT
Priority|P3
Subcomponent|code
 Assigned to|mru
 Reported by|hgkamath





--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Mar 18 03:37:07 + 
2007 ---
This bug describes a performance penalty that is incurred 
after using a macro to convert some text into a formula after 
20 times. 

Add the below procedure to your standard macros
* Start Openoffice writer
* Goto Tools-Macros-Organize-Macros-OpenofficeBasic
* Goto My Macros-Standard-Module1
* Click Edit
* Copy paste the below Procedure to this module

Assign a shortcut to this procedure
(don't remember exact sequence here but you get the idea)
* Goto Tools-Customize-Keyboard
* Navigate to Category(Openoffice.org macros), user-standard-module1
* Select Function Convert_to_Formula_Object
* Click into Keys, and press control-G
* click modify to set Ctrl-G to this action
* Click ok to exit 

* Now the attached document in Openoffice writer.
* Goto the end of the paragraph 
* Press Control-G 20 times (give a slight pause (fraction of a second, this
   is acceptable) for the macro to do its job)
  Notice the marked text getting converted to formula
* At the 21st pressing, There is a longer pause than usual.
  Sometimes this pause can be very **painful** to wait.
  In this particular case of issue reproduction it seems trivial.

* If you click on the left undo down-arrow,
  you can see twenty Changestyle: Objects# entries

 Basically, the software was applying for some strange reason, a changestyle
 for all twenty previously created objects, and hence the additional delay.


The delay increases for further formula objects created this way.


sub Convert_to_Formula_Object
rem --
rem Description This procedure converts a length of text between 
rem two delimiters into a formula object
rem Author: Ganapathi Kamath (2007)
rem define variables
dim oDoc as object
dim oText as object
dim oTextCursor as object
dim oViewCursor as object
dim TEObj as object
dim ostring1 as string
dim ostring2 as string
rem --
oDoc = ThisComponent
oText = oDoc.Text
oDescriptor = oDoc.createSearchDescriptor()
oViewCursor = oDoc.getCurrentController().getViewCursor()
oTextCursor = oText.createTextCursorByRange(oViewCursor.getStart())
oDescriptor.SearchRegularExpression = true
oDescriptor.SearchBackwards = true
oDescriptor.SearchString=\$fm(.*)fm\$
oTextCursor = oDoc.FindNext(oTextCursor.getStart,oDescriptor)
ostring1=oTextCursor.getString()
TEObj = oDoc.createInstance(com.sun.star.text.TextEmbeddedObject)
TEObj.setPropertyValue(CLSID, 078B7ABA-54FC-457F-8551-6147e776a997)
TEObj.setPropertyValue(AnchorType,
com.sun.star.text.TextContentAnchorType.AS_CHARACTER)
ostring2=Mid$(ostring1,4,len(ostring1)-6)
xText = oDoc.getText()
xText.insertTextContent(oTextCursor, TEObj, true )

math = TEObj.getEmbeddedObject()
math.setPropertyValue(Formula, ostring2)
end sub



extra comments:
You may have to first figure out if this is a Math problem or a Writer problem.
I can't ascertain that.

Sometimes I think this performance penalty becomes so bad that one has to wait 
for a minute or more before one can resume editing.  I also believe, though
cannot confirm, that this may be related to other problems like sudden crashes,
through race conditions, which I am unable to arrive a definitive 
reproduction sequence.

Seen in Openoffice 2.1 (release) on WinXP

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[sw-issues] [Issue 75496] performance penalty after 21st conversion to formula object via macro

2007-03-17 Thread hgkamath
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User hgkamath changed the following:

What|Old value |New value

 Attachment data|  |Created an attachment (id=
|  |43783)
Simple file contain
|  |ing text to be converted i
|  |nto formula by a macro






--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Mar 18 03:39:34 + 
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Created an attachment (id=43783)
Simple file containing text to be converted into formula by a macro


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[sw-issues] [Issue 75497] [EN] Limits spelt as Limes in selection window

2007-03-17 Thread hgkamath
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 Issue #|75497
 Summary|[EN] Limits spelt as Limes in selection window
   Component|Formula editor
 Version|OOo 2.1
Platform|All
 URL|
  OS/Version|All
  Status|UNCONFIRMED
   Status whiteboard|
Keywords|
  Resolution|
  Issue type|DEFECT
Priority|P4
Subcomponent|ui
 Assigned to|mru
 Reported by|hgkamath





--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Mar 18 04:18:56 + 
2007 ---
Probably spelling from some other localization has spilled into [EN]

* Open Openoffice Math 
* View-Selection
* Click Sum A (operators)
* Hoover mouse over Lim x
* Tooltip shows Limes instead of Limits

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[sw-issues] [Issue 75340] ambiguous button in format dialogs, design needs improvement

2007-03-12 Thread hgkamath
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 Issue #|75340
 Summary|ambiguous button in format dialogs, design needs impro
|vement
   Component|Formula editor
 Version|OOo 2.1
Platform|All
 URL|
  OS/Version|All
  Status|UNCONFIRMED
   Status whiteboard|
Keywords|
  Resolution|
  Issue type|DEFECT
Priority|P5
Subcomponent|ui
 Assigned to|mru
 Reported by|hgkamath





--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Mar 12 20:58:42 + 
2007 ---
Ambiguous button name Default, which seems to suggest to that it 
restore defaults, actually it sets defaults.  
Format - Fonts
Format - Font size
Format - Alignment
Format - Spacing

* Start Openoffice Math
* Goto Format - Spacing
* Suppose you have made changes
* There is a button Default, which seems to suggest to a user that 
  it be pressed if one needs to restore defaults.
On the contrary, it asks (which is good! but not what is expected)
 Should the changes be saved as defaults ?
These changes will apply to all new formulas 

Rename button as
*) The button should be renamed to Save as Document Default
   (with a tool tip to emphasize that it pertains to new formulas
in current document only)

In addition the user interface would be improved by
*) Save as Document Default button should be grayed (disabled) until a change
has actually been made in current category
*) Additionally provide a button Restore Document Defaults to restore
defaults for the currently displayed category.
*) Additionally provide a button Restore Application Defaults to restore
open-office original defaults for the currently displayed category.
*) OK should be grayed until a change has been made in any of the categories.
*) Restore Document Defaults and Restore Application Defaults  should be
grayed until a change has been made in the current category.

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[sw-issues] [Issue 74791] menu item in object mode t o copy to clipboard/save format

2007-02-22 Thread hgkamath
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 Issue #|74791
 Summary|menu item in object mode to copy to clipboard/save for
|mat
   Component|Formula editor
 Version|OOo 2.1
Platform|All
 URL|
  OS/Version|All
  Status|UNCONFIRMED
   Status whiteboard|
Keywords|
  Resolution|
  Issue type|ENHANCEMENT
Priority|P5
Subcomponent|ui
 Assigned to|mru
 Reported by|hgkamath





--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Feb 23 01:47:11 + 
2007 ---
Describing the converse feature of the tools-import formula
for instance tools-export formula

Suppose you have a odt document with a formula object.

One way to get a say a MathML markup of a formula in object mode : 
* Enter the object in the odt document
* Select all and copy the open office math formula commands
* Open new application instance of open office math
* Paste the commands into the command window
* Use saveas to save in mathml or any other desired format.

Currently in the object context the save/save-as present the 
  invoking application's (writer's) saving formats which is for 
  containing document, which isn't what is being looked for.

Desired:
* A menu item from which presents a dialog which asks
  what to copy to clipboard mathml 1.0, mathml variant etc etc
  and additionally for binary formats, another saveas menu 
  in object mode to directly save to the other format.
* An right click on object by an optionally enabled item on context menu 
  that does the same

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[framework-issues] [Issue 74590] status bar not updated dur ing zoom until ctrl key released

2007-02-16 Thread hgkamath
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Feb 16 21:25:48 + 
2007 ---

strange, After reading comments I can say 2 things

1) yes, if it does happen, then  it happens across all OO apps and 
not just formula editor.

2) I just checked for the bug on my home laptop albeit though a VNC console, 
and 
confirmed that it DOES-NOT happen on my home laptop, though both run
WinXP Prof, and OO 2.1 release.  It DOES exist and reproducible on my 
office computer, even after closing all oo apps including quick-starter. 
So there may be some weird going on. Tried to reproduce on home computer, 
but no success, need ideas. Office computer is a dual processor 
dell precision 530.

If we have independent verification, then we can narrow down to some 
commonality with my office computer, as to what might be causing this.
What is the status bar update triggered by ?

suggest lower priority till reproducibility can be worked out,
  Probably going to be a scrap bug if this eventually goes away without 
  reason.



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[sw-issues] [Issue 74590] status bar not updated dur ing zoom until ctrl key released

2007-02-15 Thread hgkamath
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 Issue #|74590
 Summary|status bar not updated during zoom until ctrl key rele
|ased
   Component|Formula editor
 Version|OOo 2.1
Platform|All
 URL|
  OS/Version|All
  Status|UNCONFIRMED
   Status whiteboard|
Keywords|
  Resolution|
  Issue type|DEFECT
Priority|P4
Subcomponent|code
 Assigned to|mru
 Reported by|hgkamath





--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Feb 16 01:22:00 + 
2007 ---
you need scroll wheel mouse.

* Open Open Office Math
* Type in an equation in command window say a+b
* Click in the formula view (outside of command window)
* Press Control Key (left or right does not matter)
* Use the scroll wheel on the mouse to change zoom
  scroll wheel forward to zoom in
  scroll wheel backward to zoom out
  Observe the status bar while doing so
  status bar shows original zoom value (never changes)
* Release Control Key
  Observe that zoom value finally updated

While zooming in and out is normally expected behaviour to update the 
  displayed zoom value so that the user has visual numerical 
  indication of the current zoom level, and one does not have to 
  release the control key to know the it. Hence defect and not enhancement.

Found on open office 2.1(release) on WinXP

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[sw-issues] [Issue 74516] jaggedness in endpoints of multiple overlines

2007-02-13 Thread hgkamath
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What|Old value |New value

 Attachment data|  |Created an attachment (id=
|  |43004)
experiments with mu
|  |ltiple overlines






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Created an attachment (id=43004)
experiments with multiple overlines


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[sw-issues] [Issue 74393] contextually invoke formul a editor in appropriate mode

2007-02-09 Thread hgkamath
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 Issue #|74393
 Summary|contextually invoke formula editor in appropriate mode
   Component|Word processor
 Version|OOo 2.1
Platform|All
 URL|
  OS/Version|All
  Status|UNCONFIRMED
   Status whiteboard|
Keywords|
  Resolution|
  Issue type|ENHANCEMENT
Priority|P3
Subcomponent|ui
 Assigned to|mru
 Reported by|hgkamath





--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Feb  9 23:41:54 + 
2007 ---
contextually invoke formula editor in appropriate mode.

Software intelligence can be built into open office writer 
creating a formula object in the right 'mode' depending on the 
invocation 'context'. It is very distracting and disconcerting to 
repeatedly set right modes on formula objects when creating documents
with lots of formula objects.

Formula editor has two modes. 
1) text mode in which the formula editor squishes the object 
to display within line height.
This mode is used when the author wishes to type equations directly 
in a paragraph, as part of some explanation, without making
the paragraph look bad due to varying line spacing.
2) normal mode in which the formula editor displays the object 
with as much space as needed to present the formula.
This mode is used when the author wishes to have the equations stand
out clearly with 

Usually when typing formula in a paragraph there could be many 
inline equations referred to as text mode formula by 
formula editor. 

Currently the Writer always invokes the formula editor to make 
a normal mode formula. This requires the user to repeatedly  
set the right mode often multiple times for every formula object 
within a paragraph.

Suggesting
1) Formula Object be invoked in text mode if within an ordinary
   paragraph style.
2) Formula Object be invoked in normal mode, if in a style 
   (say named equation style) which has been created with an 
   option not to squish objects to line height. 
3) Formula Object be invoked in normal mode, when the fn 
   Complete AutoText method. 
   (start newline, type fn, select the text fn, press F3)
4) other ideas you may have

using open office writer 2.1 (released) on WinXP

There was an old bug originally filed against the formula editor 
group, which was closed as is claimed does not come within their
preview. (issue 39271)

just FYI, Another related issue (issue 74359) exists which 
formula editor group are yet to work on but that should not
effect fixing this one.

See attachment visualize the issue.

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[sw-issues] [Issue 74393] contextually invoke formul a editor in appropriate mode

2007-02-09 Thread hgkamath
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What|Old value |New value

 Attachment data|  |Created an attachment (id=
|  |42893)
Demostrates how tex
|  |t mode is repeatedly requi
|  |red in a document of such 
|  |nature






--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Feb  9 23:43:36 + 
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Created an attachment (id=42893)
Demostrates how text mode is repeatedly required in a document of such nature


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[sw-issues] [Issue 74393] contextually invoke formul a editor in appropriate mode

2007-02-09 Thread hgkamath
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Feb  9 23:47:20 + 
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contents of attachment included here as it can be regarded part of description.

Example of creating formulas as normal mode in paragraph, before manually
converting to text mode.

Example of paragraph after manually converting the objects one by one to 
text mode

In text mode formula editor tries to fit the objects into one line height. Note
that I had to do this 4 times for each of the formula objects, which software
intelligence in open office writer could have saved for me.



There are currently implementation issues (74359) with text mode which the
formula editor group are working. As of now only the integral and fraction
symbols  display as expected within line height in text mode. So test with these
only for now. There are several ways authors may find useful in creating formula
objects. One way is to type a over b then select the text,
Insert-Object-Formula which (I feel) is the fastest and time efficient.
Another way is to do Insert-Object-Formula and then create a formula within
the editor. In either case the current situation requires the author to enter
the object and set it to text-mode.

Equations also are presented standing out on their own. In such situations they
may be associated with a style, which controls tab stops. It would be good to
have a predefined style which has a special option in the dialog box during
their creation, that indicates whether external objects (like formula editor
objects) need to be squished into fitting into the line height, or whether to
allow the objects to stay their natural height. The next line is in a style
called equation and the equation is in normal mode

Example of standalone equation

Another advertised way to create formula objects is using the following
“complete autotext” method (or whatever you call it). This too could be set to
invoke the formula editor in normal mode. (1) start on new line (2) type fn (3)
select the text fn (4) Press F3. You get the following result. Something like
this is natural to be in normal mode. 

Example of equation created using F3 autotext


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[sw-issues] [Issue 74393] contextually invoke formul a editor in appropriate mode

2007-02-09 Thread hgkamath
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Feb  9 23:50:40 + 
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comments from issue 39271 re-included here, as they are pertinent

The caveman's typesetter, Latex, for example has a way of creating inline
equations by using a $ notation example: The formula $a^2 + b^2 = c^2$ is
known as Pythagoras's equation. Text separated and multi-line equations have
their own markup \begin{equation} ... \end{equation} and  \begin{eqnarray[*]}
... \end{eqnarray[*]}. The nature of latex is such that there need not be
software intelligence as to when to do what, because the the users actually
doing all the work.  Thats not the paradigm of modern day software.

Automatically determine the mode of the formula editor, whether it is in
text-mode/normal, is a very practical feature to avoid several thought
distracting mouse clicks when creating mathematical documents with several
equations. 

Open Office writer can be smart an embed the formula object in textmode setting
whenever the user is typing in a paragraph (taking cue from the text style
setting) and embed the formula object in normal mode when the style setting is
equation or something, or when the embed formula macro type fn, select 
it,press F3

writer/formula editor groups, might have to work together to make a useful and
practical feature possible.



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[sw-issues] [Issue 39271] Current text mode setting shouldn't be lost

2007-02-08 Thread hgkamath
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Feb  8 23:36:04 + 
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Agreed that this is not issue to be fixed by the formula editor group, as other
software may embed the formula object within it, and a fix in formula editor
group will affect many unrelated applications. However listen :  

I believe that this is still the case with open office 2.1 release.

The caveman's typesetter, Latex, for example has a way of creating inline
equations by using a $ notation example: The formula $a^2 + b^2 = c^2$ is
known as Pythagoras's equation. Text separated and multi-line equations have
their own markup \begin{equation} ... \end{equation} and  \begin{eqnarray[*]}
... \end{eqnarray[*]}. The nature of latex is such that there need not be
software intelligence as to when to do what, because the the users actually
doing all the work.  Thats not the paradigm of modern day software.

Automatically determine the mode of the formula editor, whether it is in
text-mode/normal, is a very practical feature to avoid several thought
distracting mouse clicks when creating mathematical documents with several
equations. 

Open Office writer can be smart an embed the formula object in textmode setting
whenever the user is typing in a paragraph (taking cue from the text style
setting) and embed the formula object in normal mode when the style setting is
equation or something, or when the embed formula macro type fn, select 
it,press F3

Suggest that this issue be reopened and transfered to the word processor/writer
or appropriate group, and work together to make a useful and practical feature
possible.


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[sw-issues] [Issue 74359] not all symbols respect li ne height in text mode

2007-02-08 Thread hgkamath
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 Issue #|74359
 Summary|not all symbols respect line height in text mode
   Component|Formula editor
 Version|OOo 2.1
Platform|All
 URL|
  OS/Version|All
  Status|UNCONFIRMED
   Status whiteboard|
Keywords|
  Resolution|
  Issue type|DEFECT
Priority|P3
Subcomponent|code
 Assigned to|mru
 Reported by|hgkamath





--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Feb  9 01:40:23 + 
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not all symbols/operators/attributes/formats respect the line height in text 
mode.

The help document describes the text mode menu as follows

Switches the text mode on or off. In text mode, formulas are displayed as the
same height as a line of text.
To access this command... 
Choose Format - Text Mode 

View Attached document textmode.odt to view result.
Line spacing varies and appears disconcerting when equations containing such
symbols are used in a paragraph.

The difference in text mode and normal mode should be as follows
* In text line height is very important. If an operator or symbol needs to
separate into top and below components, then each component must be within the
allocated maximum line height, and forsake aesthetic relative size requirements.
Font, Location and symbol sizes must be computed to meet line height 
requirements.
* In normal mode the object is font size is absolute as generated by the formula
editor. If an operator or symbol needs to separate into top and below
components, then each component tries to maintain aesthetic relative size
requirements, and allocates more line height if necessary to present the
formula. Location and line height requirements must be computed to meet font and
symbol sizes.

When a paragraph containing many mathematical equations, which the author does
not which to stand out on their own is types. Since the line height varies the
final result can be disconcerting because of varying line spacing. 

Fine laser printing makes it possible to print very small characters, and line
spacing must be increased only when maybe some format check suggests that
characters are too small to be printed, or for simplicity character sizes less
than 4.

Issue was found in open office 2.1 (release) on WinXP

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[sw-issues] [Issue 74359] not all symbols respect li ne height in text mode

2007-02-08 Thread hgkamath
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What|Old value |New value

 Attachment data|  |Created an attachment (id=
|  |42872)
experiementing with
|  | text mode for various for
|  |mulae






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Created an attachment (id=42872)
experiementing with text mode for various formulae


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[sw-issues] [Issue 74359] not all symbols respect li ne height in text mode

2007-02-08 Thread hgkamath
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Feb  9 02:03:46 + 
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Including excerpts from attached document here as they can be regarded part of
the description. 

This looks bad as line height varies, an example

I speculate that there could be other mathematical symbols and operators which
may be taking more than the line space. 
 Examples of Wideslash , Widebackslash , matrix , stack , csup/csub , binom,
newline , overbrace , underbrace  

I think even in a single subscript there is a size change that is not large
enough to be perceivable, . The same case with from and to values in limits and
integration , The good thing is there does exist efforts to get the height
right. Its just that it might not be good enough. The height difference is
visible if view zoomed to 800%.

The behavioral of the size operator is one of debate. There exist two ways to
interpret how this should behave in text mode. relative(size +4), absolute(size
14) There does exist a font size in an external context of an OLE object like
the font size of the paragraph or line at which the document is typed in. One
way is to discard this information. Since the user explicitly typed in a size
one would assume the users knows what he/she is doing. Another approach is to
relatively set the font size in the formula. While this is neat it requires the
object to be context aware, and hence this might not be a good idea. . Whatever
the outside size is could be considered to be of size 10 . So if the context
font size is 14. then size +2 should translate to size 16 and size 16 could
evaluate to 14/10*16=22.4, rounded to 22. This would preserve a relative notion
of font size from the outside world into the object context. A disadvantage
could be that the formula object display would need to be recomputed every time
the external context font size changed.



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[sw-issues] [Issue 51010] Find and Replace in Formul a Editor

2007-02-07 Thread hgkamath
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Feb  8 01:28:35 + 
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noting a further idea extension; Adding a comment to this issue so that it could
be part of a design consideration.

Another neat feature would be if the Find-and-Replace-Dialog from application
linking to the object, had an option to go in and out of the formula objects, or
invoke the find-replace dialogs of corresponding formula-objects, so that
strings in formula like variable names or subexpressions can be changed across
multiple objects, in one sitting, by clicking next,replace.


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[sw-issues] [Issue 74144] document cannot be saved i f forbidden characters pasted

2007-02-03 Thread hgkamath
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Feb  3 18:30:39 + 
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I'm sorry, I should have specified the table on the page
Please try table 82(AMS arrows) \Leftrightarrows (not \Leftrightarrow)
If you select the symbol for \Leftrightarrows from table 82 and it gets pasted
(Ctrl-V) as '' ()nothing visible, and file does not save.
 ( If you select the symbol for \Leftrightarrow from table 79 
   and it gets pasted   (Ctrl-V) as ',' (comma) and File saves 
   just fine as you say. )
It doesn't happen to any character in that pdf, as I had earlier thought, maybe
only some which have the forbidden characters.

The acrobat reader version in 8.0.0, file may be opened in a browser(firefox) or
stand alone, does not matter.
Mouse is on select tool.
Point to the symbol, drag around it, a light blue square appears around the
symbol,  right click , copy .
Goto the formula editor, put cursor after the first space in a  b Ctrl-V (same
effect if menu edit-paste is used )
This paste will not even show up as a space.
But you can check there are three characters between a # b by doing three
backspaces before 'b' 

My open office writer help about dialog box says 2.1 which I downloaded as
the release version and not a development build version.

Please try again. Thankyou



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[sw-issues] [Issue 74144] document cannot be saved i f forbidden characters pasted

2007-02-02 Thread hgkamath
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 Issue #|74144
 Summary|document cannot be saved if forbidden characters paste
|d
   Component|Formula editor
 Version|OOo 2.1
Platform|All
 URL|
  OS/Version|All
  Status|UNCONFIRMED
   Status whiteboard|
Keywords|
  Resolution|
  Issue type|DEFECT
Priority|P3
Subcomponent|ui
 Assigned to|mru
 Reported by|hgkamath





--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Feb  2 22:57:20 + 
2007 ---
Document cannot be saved if forbidden characters pasted

I speculate that there are some things that should not be pasted into the
formula editor. While no immediate damage is felt, the lurking deadly side
effect is that the document cannot be saved. It may not be apparent at that time
as to what the cause is, and work may be lost if user discards all modified
content in frustration.

* Open open office writer
* goto menu Insert-Object-Formula
* Type a  b without the quotes
* now open in acrobat reader
http://www.tug.org/tex-archive/info/symbols/comprehensive/symbols-letter.pdf
(just about any character that you think has been copied will do)
(for purposes of issue reproducibility)
goto Page 32
select the character corresponding leftrightarrows
* Paste that in between a and b as a # b where # might actually even not be
visible
The user may know that the paste itself was not successful as expected, however
apart from an extra space nothing is visible in the the formula editor. Things
seem to go without error.
* Proceed as though everything is normal
* click back into writer
* Try to save the document
You get the error dialog box
Error saving the document test.odt:
Write Error.
Error writing file.
OK

Suggesting, that 
   1)pasted text be filtered for forbidden characters
or 2)prevent the paste with a message box indicating why not feasible
It is very imperative that in fixing this bug that
  pasting Unicode characters from
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Unicode/Character_reference/2000-2FFF is allowed

Note that this issue rises because one wants easy way to get character
The symbol catalog is not very user friendly 
and there are insufficient characters predefined (issue 46571)

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[sw-issues] [Issue 74031] Alternative text not inclu ded in plain text copy

2007-01-30 Thread hgkamath
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 Issue #|74031
 Summary|Alternative text not included in plain text copy
   Component|Word processor
 Version|OOo 2.1
Platform|PC
 URL|
  OS/Version|All
  Status|UNCONFIRMED
   Status whiteboard|
Keywords|
  Resolution|
  Issue type|ENHANCEMENT
Priority|P4
Subcomponent|editing
 Assigned to|mru
 Reported by|hgkamath





--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Jan 30 18:36:54 -0800 
2007 ---
The attached document may show a situation where such behavior is desirable
where the object is part of the sentence

When a sentence containing objects with alternative text is copied to notepad,
the alternative text is omitted. The behavior is seen in object(formulas) and
pictures. 

Steps to reproduce
* Open openoffice writer
* Create a sentence as follows 
  How to make combination of m out of n items
  Select m  
  Click on menu Insert-object-formula
  This converts m into a formula
  Right click the formula object, 
  click on object
  click on options
  In alternative text put say m
* and/or 
  create a sentence and anchor a picture as a character in the sentence
  Right click on picture
  Click on type
  In anchor, select anchor as character 
  Click on options
  Insert some alternative text that describes the figure

* copy either sentence into notepad
  the alternative text does not appear.
* make some headings in this way 
  Create a table/index
  the table/index does not show the alternative text.

Select some text which includes an object, like a math text formula

I am unsure myself what the behavior should be because in most cases there may
be situations when copying the alternative text may be undesirable.

Maybe a check box in the options tab in the object dialog box, could indicate if
the alternative text is to be included in a plain text copy.

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[sw-issues] [Issue 74031] Alternative text not inclu ded in plain text copy

2007-01-30 Thread hgkamath
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 Attachment data|  |Created an attachment (id=
|  |42581)
writer file that de
|  |scribes bug 74031






--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Jan 30 18:37:50 -0800 
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Created an attachment (id=42581)
writer file that describes bug 74031


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