[framework-issues] [Issue 66798] Support language status ba r in Calc and Draw/Impress

2010-07-04 Thread az77
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--- Additional comments from a...@openoffice.org Sun Jul  4 21:18:27 + 
2010 ---
Being offered first hints from the langages installed, in an order preselected
by the user would be a definite improvement.
Also, having the option to disable hints from other languages would help a lot.
(I personally get a lot of hints from swahili, africaans, and albanian.  But I
understand french and english.)
One way to do this would be to have a list of languages authorised for hints.

Hints from all installed languages could be useful as well.
(i.e., a word could be missing from the language intended, but if it appears
only as a hint from another language, the user will never know that it is
missing from the intended language.  In which case the user would prefer to add
the missing word.)

It would be nice to be able to select 2 (or more) languages simultaneously, as
well.  (e.g. english and some other language for computer-related documents, or
glossaries with descriptions in one language and keywords in anothers.)

Ideally one could select a primary language, with one or more secondary
languages, where words not in the primary language but in a secondary language
would be underlined in, say, blue instead of red.  That of course would be a
more important enhancement.

Note that I use calc much more than writer.

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[framework-issues] [Issue 66798] Support language status ba r in Calc and Draw/Impress

2010-05-23 Thread john_rose
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--- Additional comments from john_r...@openoffice.org Sun May 23 08:39:44 
+ 2010 ---
Thanks mba.

I agree that the language selection feature in Writer is very convenient, a
great improvement of that in Calc [Although it is inconvenient that my two
installed dictionaries are not always available without first selecting Other
(for example, sometimes I have the choice between US English and French, whereas
I am normally using UK English and French) - have not figured this out yet.]

In Calc, for now I seem to get only either English or French (the two
dictionaries I installed) as default, and can laboriously change for all or part
according to your clarification, thus basically satisfied. I have not yet
experienced the trouble that Calc guesses extraneous languages, but agree with
jodyfanning that this could be very inconvenient.

Since I have your ear (sorry if I am bending the rules), I would like to make
some comments on use of Calc as a fresh user:
* Spell check doesn't work in notes
* Difficulty in positioning cursor in notes (several clicks sometimes needed)
* Can't seem to drag value from one cell to a distant one (intermediate cells
also affected)
* Special paste to erase only the note also erases the value
* Have not found how to remove a hyperlink
* System is in general very low in moving and setting pointer and in displaying
values (1 sometimes 2 seconds delay, nothing like in Excel where you get the
feeling of immediate response).
I guess that some or most of these are already intentified, but would appreciate
your general or specific comments. I will be monitoring carefully and
participating in the future. Best regards, John

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[framework-issues] [Issue 66798] Support language status ba r in Calc and Draw/Impress

2010-05-22 Thread jodyfanning
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--- Additional comments from jodyfann...@openoffice.org Sat May 22 17:44:36 
+ 2010 ---
I really think that OpenOffice guessing I am typing Swahili when I only have
English and Finnish dictionaries installed is not a matter of personal taste.
It seem to be a broken feature. Especially when the detection is only supposed
to work when there is an entire sentence, but it tries when there is only one 
word.

I would much rather it told me that it was a unknown word than guess it is an
entirely different language that I don't even have installed.

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[framework-issues] [Issue 66798] Support language status ba r in Calc and Draw/Impress

2010-05-22 Thread jodyfanning
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--- Additional comments from jodyfann...@openoffice.org Sat May 22 18:05:56 
+ 2010 ---
I guess one key thing is that I am talking about Calc. But after trying in
Writer I am not sure that making all the other apps match Writer is that much of
an improvement. The language handling as a whole is quite broken.

For example I have about 4 languages installed. But I only use two. But in order
to get to Finnish (from English) I have to scroll through all the English
variants and all the French variants, along with every other language OOo knows
about before I can get to Finnish. It would be nice that the selection didn't
show languages that are not installed.

It would also be nice if it was possible to order the languages. The shortcut
menu from the status bar only shows one language (the default) at the moment. If
it was possible to sort the languages it would be nice if that showed the first
few from the sorted list.

And for some reason I can't uninstall the French and Spanish dictionaries. The
uninstall option is disabled.

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[framework-issues] [Issue 66798] Support language status ba r in Calc and Draw/Impress

2010-05-21 Thread mba
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User mba changed the following:

What|Old value |New value

  Issue type|DEFECT|ENHANCEMENT

 Summary|language detection in cont|Support language status ba
|ext menu is broken|r in Calc and Draw/Impress

Target milestone|---   |OOo 3.x





--- Additional comments from m...@openoffice.org Fri May 21 07:02:10 + 
2010 ---
Glad to read that I could help. :-)

It's absolutely understandable that you didn't find that by yourself.
You are a very good example for my theory that treating the language attribute
as a part of the text formatting (and especially as a part of the Font tab
page) is a bad design. It's not intuitive and usually people are just used to 
it. 

IMHO the other things discussed in this issue can be ignored - they either were
misunderstandings or a matter of personal taste. We think that the way that
language guessing and settings works in Writer is as it should be. Please
correct me if I'm wrong.

So I took the liberty to adjust issue type, target milestone and summary
accordingly.

@sba: if you are OK with that, please pass this issue to tl for further
considerations. I don't want to set high expectations, the implementation of
this enhancement is not done in a few days. But maybe we can find a slot of it
in the near future or an interested developer elsewhere. This issue is on our
public to do list in the OOo wiki that is also available for the OOo
internship program.


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