[sw-issues] [Issue 100762] Different languages with one keyboard layout aren't possible
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=100762 --- Additional comments from ga...@openoffice.org Tue Dec 21 19:17:58 + 2010 --- Hello, I have same problem. I would like to write in Rusyn language but Rusyn input language is not defined in Windows. So I am using Russian layout but then I am not able to use Rusyn spell check online as it is always automatically switched to Russian. Please add an option to disable this automatic switch of languages. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@sw.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@sw.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: allbugs-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: allbugs-h...@openoffice.org
[sw-issues] [Issue 100762] Different languages with one keyboard layout aren't possible
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=100762 User blahma changed the following: What|Old value |New value CC|'helen_russian,janjanousek|'blahma,helen_russian,janj |,sba' |anousek,sba' - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@sw.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@sw.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: allbugs-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: allbugs-h...@openoffice.org
[sw-issues] [Issue 100762] Different languages with one keyboard layout aren't possible
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=100762 --- Additional comments from kc...@openoffice.org Wed Jan 27 00:24:34 + 2010 --- Yes, let users optionally set this automation! As a English New Zealand user (similar to UK) I struggled to realise Windows was confusing OO with an English US keyboard (but it had NZ as default..?!). Just presenting the option would've informed me why OO was changing my language. Got my vote. Personally I'll turn it off. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@sw.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@sw.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: allbugs-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: allbugs-h...@openoffice.org
[sw-issues] [Issue 100762] Different languages with one keyboard layout aren't possible
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=100762 User janjanousek changed the following: What|Old value |New value CC|'helen_russian,sba' |'helen_russian,janjanousek | |,sba' --- Additional comments from janjanou...@openoffice.org Wed Jan 13 11:13:18 + 2010 --- The feature to follow the current system keyboard/language/layout/whatever setting to set the language in a document/paragraph is reasonable - this is how OO3 works and some users may appreciate it. The feature to keep the language in a document/... as it is set independently on any system setting is reasonable too - this is how OO2 worked and some users (me inclusive) would like to use OO3. But these two features together seem clashing. What about this behaviour: When I *change* the system *keyboard/...* setting and I *directly* start to *write* I get the system keyboard/... language in my document/ In all other cases (especially I *set* the *language* in my document *manually* or *move* a cursor to some place and then start to *write*) I keep the current document/... language. Generally: I think to set this automation optional (as some users propose) would save lots of people lots of problems and time (this and other discussions inclusive). To deduce the users' intentions from some system settings (e.g. the system keyboard/... is set to Czech hence the user will write in Czech) is risky. I usually use the Czech system keyboard/... to write English texts just because it is possible (OK - it is possible elsewhere than in OO3 8) and I do not think I do something wrong. I understand I could set my system to support the English layout in the Czech keyboard but I just do not want to do this. The same way you could deduce that because there is Microsoft Word installed in the system the document shall be saved as a Microsoft Word document. Whenever the arguments say the user shall/have to do something this way the thoughts probably go the wrong way. There usually is more than one way to do things. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@sw.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@sw.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: allbugs-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: allbugs-h...@openoffice.org
[sw-issues] [Issue 100762] Different languages with one keyboard layout aren't possible
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=100762 --- Additional comments from m...@openoffice.org Mon Jan 4 14:58:00 + 2010 --- Again: OOo does not follow the keyboard layout, it follows the input locale. Which keyboard locale matches the input locale is a Windows configuration matter. In your case you should switch to French if you wanted to write in French, not to English. If you want to use the English keyboard layout for writing in French, use the Windows system configuration to assign that keyboard to the French input locale. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@sw.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@sw.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: allbugs-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: allbugs-h...@openoffice.org
[sw-issues] [Issue 100762] Different languages with one keyboard layout aren't possible
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=100762 --- Additional comments from george_y...@openoffice.org Mon Jan 4 16:08:35 + 2010 --- mba Following your logics I should install ALL the necessary languages in my Windows. Maybe you're right. But why I should complicate my work? I type in several languages and in different combinations within one document. For example, I prepare a scientific paper in Russian were I have to type some sentences in English, French and German. And now compare the following: 1) In MS Word and OOo2 Writer I can have 2 (two) languages (English and Russian) in my PC and every time I want to change the language of a paragraph I click on the status-bar, choose the necessary language and continue typing until I should change languages again. 2) In OOo3 I HAVE TO install ALL the necessary languages in my system then I HAVE TO change languages in Windows and in OOo itself. Having typed 1-2 phrases in French, I HAVE TO change languages in Windows and OOo to type in German then I HAVE TO change languages in Windows and OOo to type in Russian, after that I HAVE TO change languages in Windows and OOo to type in French, and so on and so on. I am a linguist and sometimes I type texts, paragraphs and sentences in Turkish, Dutch, Swedish, Spanish, Italian and some other western languages. And you advise me to install all of them on my PC too? Don't you think that MS Word's or OOo2's behaviour is more advanced than that of OOo3's? - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@sw.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@sw.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: allbugs-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: allbugs-h...@openoffice.org
[sw-issues] [Issue 100762] Different languages with one keyboard layout aren't possible
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=100762 --- Additional comments from m...@openoffice.org Mon Jan 4 17:09:16 + 2010 --- Following your logics I should install ALL the necessary languages in my Windows. Maybe you're right. But why I should complicate my work? You can use it at least as a fix for your problem for now. I didn't deny that fixing the problem in OOo perhaps could be a good idea. I need some more time to think about the problem, so it might take some time. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@sw.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@sw.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: allbugs-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: allbugs-h...@openoffice.org
[sw-issues] [Issue 100762] Different languages with one keyboard layout aren't possible
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=100762 --- Additional comments from m...@openoffice.org Sun Dec 27 14:01:44 + 2009 --- Your language in OOo does not depend on your keyboard, it depends on your input language. Which keyboard is used for which input language is selected in the system configuration. I have two configured input languages: English and German. I have selected the German keyboard for both of them. So switching from English to German in the Windows task bar changes my input language and thus my OOo language, but it does not change the keyboard configuration. This is the proper way to do it, fixing that in OOo as is requested here is only a workaround. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@sw.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@sw.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: allbugs-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: allbugs-h...@openoffice.org
[sw-issues] [Issue 100762] Different languages with one keyboard layout aren't possible
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=100762 --- Additional comments from george_y...@openoffice.org Sun Dec 27 20:06:58 + 2009 --- Dear mba, I can't accept your point of view. Please re-read my first message in the topic where I have described the problem: I set French as the language of the document and start typing in French. Everything goes OK, then I change to Russian (Belarusian) layout(s) and type some phrases. After that I come back to English layout to type in French but after the first word the language of the document changes to English (system default). Since that moment I can't use French dictionaries for spell-checking - every time I manually set French and OOo switches automatically to English. As you can see the real problem is in OOo3's inability to follow the language of the text - it changes it according to the keyboard layout. If you try to repeat my actions in MS Word or OOo2, you'll see that Word and Writer2 follow the language of the text irrespectively to the keyboard layout. When you changed that behaviour in OOo3 you ruined habits of a great number of OOo users. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@sw.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@sw.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: allbugs-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: allbugs-h...@openoffice.org
[sw-issues] [Issue 100762] Different languages with one keyboard layout aren't possible
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=100762 --- Additional comments from popo...@openoffice.org Sat Dec 19 15:35:58 + 2009 --- I too find this deeply annoying. I want my document language to be independent of my keyboard. It was a mystery for a while until I searched for bugs as to why my language kept changing and it kept having a snit fit about colour - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@sw.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@sw.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: allbugs-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: allbugs-h...@openoffice.org
[sw-issues] [Issue 100762] Different languages with one keyboard layout aren't possible
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=100762 --- Additional comments from m...@openoffice.org Sat Nov 21 12:57:12 + 2009 --- Sure; again: depending on the necessary effort and what else will be on the to do list this option will be added in 3.3 or later. This is what the target 3.x means. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@sw.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@sw.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: allbugs-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: allbugs-h...@openoffice.org
[sw-issues] [Issue 100762] Different languages with one keyboard layout aren't possible
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=100762 --- Additional comments from m...@openoffice.org Fri Nov 20 09:29:03 + 2009 --- Did I write that it isn't possible? The mere fact that this issue is not rejected proofs the opposite. But as the problem is just caused by an unfortunate operation by the user(*) and can be avoided easily, the issue does not have a very high priority. It might be a candidate for 3.3, but that is still open. (*) For me it is unfortunate not to use the means of the operating system if they are present, and Windows allows to fix this problem easily, as I described. Whether the OOo help file should contain hints how to operate Windows properly is a questionable suggestion. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@sw.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@sw.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: allbugs-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: allbugs-h...@openoffice.org
[sw-issues] [Issue 100762] Different languages with one keyboard layout aren't possible
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=100762 --- Additional comments from mvangelde...@openoffice.org Fri Nov 20 18:18:29 + 2009 --- Hi mba - yes, you can set up multiple keyboards per input language for Windows but the point is that, for a subset of people using multiple input languages and keyboard layouts this is extremely cumbersome - sometimes I write in French using a French layout on a Spanish keyboard, sometimes using a French layout on a US keyboard, sometimes in English using a UK layout on a Russian keyboard, etc... etc... this will depend on the text I am writing, on the external keyboard I am using, and between what languages I switch for a single document. Sometimes I need a character that is available on a different layout but it does not mean I am changing input language! Of course I could go into insert symbol or create character but I find it much more efficient to be able to quickly switch layouts (without using my mouse) and directly type the character(s) I want, without changing the language of the text I am writing. Before, OpenOffice allowed this, the new version does not. If I set up Windows to be able to correctly handle all permutations for all languages I use (I have done so) it means I have potentially 20 permutations to cycle through (by keyboard) or select (by mouse) - not efficient at all, nor handy. I much, much prefer being able to manually tell OpenOffice what language I am writing in a piece of text at any time, and for OpenOffice not to link this to the Windows input language and change the language for me. So, the point, again, that I and several other people are making, is that while having Open Office match the Windows input language might be handy for some users, it is definitely not handy for other users. It is silly to impose one way of working with languages/keyboard layouts when there is no good reason for it. OpenOffice used not to impose this way of working on users, it now does. I (and I think several others) believe it should be made optional, so that those that wish to can stick to the Windows input language management system (probably those that do not use multiple layouts for each of a series of several languages) (and that, anyway, is for those on Windows), but those that don't want to, can manage the OOO input language separately from the Windows input language. I don't think that this is a spurious request, and I wish that, even though it is clearly not your preference, you acknowledge that other people may have another way and need of working with keyboards/languages than you do, that is just as valid. Your suggestion that our issue is a result of unfortunate operation by us, and that we can't use Windows properly, is frankly rather insulting. I have tried the Windows Input language route that you suggest, and I am sorry to tell you that it is no panacea, it just complicates and slows things down further. It is also interesting that you seem to suggest the way Windows is set up to handle input languages and keyboard layouts is necessarily an efficient set up that everyone should be happy with. I beg to differ. I have no problem with some people finding the current set up more efficient and user-friendly than the previous one - good for them, but that does not mean it is efficient for everyone, which is why, I hope that Open Office will make this setting optional as soon as possible in one of its new versions. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@sw.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@sw.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: allbugs-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: allbugs-h...@openoffice.org
[sw-issues] [Issue 100762] Different languages with one keyboard layout aren't possible
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=100762 --- Additional comments from mvangelde...@openoffice.org Thu Nov 19 21:00:30 + 2009 --- I have just upgraded my OpenOffice version and will promptly uninstall the new version and switch back to an older version because of this bug. I can see the appeal for some people for the automatic change, but for a lot of people, it is a nightmare that OpenOffice changes the input language to be equal to the keyboard layout, since many of us write in multiple languages using a single layout. For example, I normally write in French, English and Spanish using my Spanish layout. With this new version of OpenOffice, the program keeps changing the language of the text to Spanish even though I am writing in English or French, just because I am using a Spanish layout. I can't write a proper document because of the bug, it is extremely annoying. I am not sure when this will eventually be fixed, I don't know how bug fixing works and how long it takes. I propose, as have the others, that it be made optional behaviour, ie: your can switch it on or off. I use Windows Vista. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@sw.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@sw.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: allbugs-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: allbugs-h...@openoffice.org
[sw-issues] [Issue 100762] Different languages with one keyboard layout aren't possible
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=100762 --- Additional comments from m...@openoffice.org Fri Nov 20 07:10:41 + 2009 --- No, OOo does not bind the language to the keyboard layout, it binds to the input language. Windows allows you to configure the keyboard layout used for every language. If you want to write English texts in the Spanish keyboard layout, configure it that way in Windows. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@sw.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@sw.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: allbugs-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: allbugs-h...@openoffice.org
[sw-issues] [Issue 100762] Different languages with one keyboard layout aren't possible
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=100762 --- Additional comments from mrgum...@openoffice.org Fri Nov 20 07:45:34 + 2009 --- Yes, we must differentiate between keyboard layout and keyboard localization. (In Vista, when setting up the keyboard layout/language, the first level chosen is the language, and then the layout!). The problem is, that the behaviour is not described anywhere in the help-files. It could be considered normal behaviour, as many word processors apparently do this, but somebody has to tell the user what normal behaviour is. And lastly, there is a subset of the users who does not have a desire for this behaviour and a subset who does. Why should the subset be forced to work the same way as the other subset, when a simple checkbox (from the users point of view) can alter the behaviour to the desire? Why is it not possible to add an option (application- or documentwise) to enable and disable the binding between written language and the keyboards language? - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@sw.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@sw.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: allbugs-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: allbugs-h...@openoffice.org
[sw-issues] [Issue 100762] Different languages with one keyboard layout aren't possible
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=100762 --- Additional comments from john53j...@openoffice.org Mon Nov 9 11:53:51 + 2009 --- I have similar problems with this, i am changing the language for words, paragraphs and the document all the time because the language automatically changes particularly at the end of the document. I write in Italian and English(us and uk), often on the same document and often changing form one language to another at regular intervals. I use my laptop which is from England with an English keyboard, but when i am at my desk i attach an Italian keyboard. I don't want to change the windows keyboard language every time i change the language i am writing in. What would also be very very useful is a Language Layout view under View'Language Layout'. This would show me the different languages highlighted in different colours SO I COULD SEE what was happening. Thanks. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@sw.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@sw.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: allbugs-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: allbugs-h...@openoffice.org
[sw-issues] [Issue 100762] Different languages with one keyboard layout aren't possible
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=100762 --- Additional comments from mrgum...@openoffice.org Sat Aug 1 11:40:02 + 2009 --- I completely agree with george_yves on this subject. I am currently switching between workspaces that have different keyboard layouts (Danish / English (US)), while writing my masters thesis in British English. It has taken me a couple of weeks to figure out, why OOo kept changing the language of spellchecker, no matter how many times I told OOo the text was British English. I've just been though the help file of the danish OOo 3.1 and it explains no where, that OOo overrules the language settings in styles, font-settings and standard document settings. However, I can acknowledge that for some users, this behaviour is much wanted. Therefore I support george_yves proposal, that it should be possible to enable or disable this feature, either global or per document, or by choosing [Autodetect]-language in the styles. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@sw.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@sw.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: allbugs-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: allbugs-h...@openoffice.org
[sw-issues] [Issue 100762] Different languages with one keyboard layout aren't possible
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=100762 --- Additional comments from aehrl...@openoffice.org Fri Apr 3 06:22:40 + 2009 --- Ye, now I see the George's point: he's on Linux where there is no input *language* present (at least, in his flavour of Linux) and only input keyboard layout is present ;-). We are keeping a small holywar on this topic at another place, too. There is generally no such stuff in today's global world as language of *document*. There are exceptions, of course. I add the fourth, it wouldn't be very convenient to switch between them But how the h...l are you going to tell the word processor that this word in the sentence is in language1, that paragraph is in language2, those two are in language3? You have to have something referring to *all* the relevant languages. For Windows, it is language of input; I don't know if there is some equivalent in Linux. If there is none then some different approach should be taken in Linux. And, actually, the right one would be not lets limit the functionality of OOo to the least common denominator between Linux, Windows, Solaris, MacOS, ... but to wrtie an input language switcher for Linux instead. IIRC there were no keyboard layout switchers at the beginning of the life, either. So my suggestion for improvement of backward compatibility is: introduce one more choice Default languages for documents combobox: [autodetect]. If this option is selected then apply the current functionality of the 1035 fix, if not then fall back to OOo2.4- behaviour. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@sw.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@sw.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: allbugs-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: allbugs-h...@openoffice.org
[sw-issues] [Issue 100762] Different languages with one keyboard layout aren't possible
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=100762 --- Additional comments from george_y...@openoffice.org Fri Apr 3 14:30:53 + 2009 --- You've made a wrong conclusion about my PC, aehrlich. I'm on Windows. Now I want to explain my position more clear. There are some possibilities to resolve my problem without changing anything in OOo but most of them have big minuses: A) Point: You can add the second language with the same layout as the first one. Minuses: 1) it is suitable for Windows only because Linux, as I know, follows layouts and not languages; 2) it complicates switching between languages; 3) you should add more languages even if you use the new ones 1-2 times a month. B) Point: You can add the second language with the same layout as the first one and use an external software to remap shortcuts for language switching. Minuses: 1) there is no such universal remapping software for different OS's; 2) it is suitable for Windows only because Linux, as I know, follows layouts and not languages; 3) it complicates switching between languages even more because it increases the possibility of shortcuts' conflict with other software and OOo's extensions; 4) you should add more languages even if you use the new ones 1-2 times a month. I support your suggestion, aehrlich, to introduce one more choice Default languages for documents combobox: [autodetect]. If this option is selected then apply the current functionality of the 1035 fix, if not then fall back to OOo2.4- behaviour. But if you reread my first message here, you will see that I have already suggested the same behaviour for OOo. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@sw.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@sw.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: allbugs-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: allbugs-h...@openoffice.org
[sw-issues] [Issue 100762] Different languages with one keyboard layout aren't possible
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=100762 --- Additional comments from aehrl...@openoffice.org Thu Apr 2 18:21:43 + 2009 --- I see no bug here; the user shall change the way of using IME instead. To enter text in French with English layout, you should configure IME correspondingly, for Windows XP it would be: Control Panel | Regional and Language Options | tab Languages | Details... | Text Services and Input Languages | Add... | Input Language = French, Keyboard Layout/IME = United States-International. Then switch to French language with English layout and use it. Of course, making the Language Guesser optional (adding a checkbox in Options) would be nice, too. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@sw.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@sw.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: allbugs-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: allbugs-h...@openoffice.org
[sw-issues] [Issue 100762] Different languages with one keyboard layout aren't possible
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=100762 --- Additional comments from george_y...@openoffice.org Thu Apr 2 21:24:11 + 2009 --- I can't agree with aehrlich. First, I already have THREE languages in my system (English, Russian and Belarusian) and if I add the fourth, it wouldn't be very convenient to switch between them. After all I don't use French very often. And what I should do if there is a necessity to type in German (it happens sometimes)? Shall I add the fifth language? Second, OOo 3.x follows not the language of a document but the keyboard layout. Just imagine: I set French for the document, then change to Russian (Belarusian) and after that come back to (as I hope) French. But OOo sees not the French language but US keyboard, and what should it (OOo) think? It automatically sets the default English - not French! - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@sw.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@sw.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: allbugs-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: allbugs-h...@openoffice.org
[sw-issues] [Issue 100762] Different languages with one keyboard layout aren't possible
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=100762 Issue #|100762 Summary|Different languages with one keyboard layout aren't po |ssible Component|Word processor Version|OOo 3.0.1 Platform|Unknown URL| OS/Version|Windows, all Status|UNCONFIRMED Status whiteboard| Keywords| Resolution| Issue type|DEFECT Priority|P3 Subcomponent|editing Assigned to|writerneedsconfirm Reported by|george_yves --- Additional comments from george_y...@openoffice.org Wed Apr 1 17:51:44 + 2009 --- On my PC I have three languages: English (default), Russian and Belarusian. I am a teacher and most of my documents are made in four languages: English, Russian, Belarusian and French. For the French language I use English keyboard with Compose Special Characters extension for French diacritics. In OOo 2.x it saved me the necessity to install French as a fourth language on my PC - it is a nightmare to switch more than three languages. When I had OOo 2.x it was easy to compose documents in French with some phrases in Russian or Belarusian. I set French as the language for the document and typed in French using English layout. The language of the document was kept all through the document and if it was necessary, I could change the language settings for Russian (Belarusian) words and sentences manually. In OOo 3.x I can't work with French documents as I have described. For example: I set French as the language of the document and start typing in French. Everything goes OK, then I change to Russian (Belarusian) layout(s) and type some phrases. After that I come back to English layout to type in French but after the first word the language of the document changes to English (system default). Since that moment I can't use French dictionaries for spellchecking - every time I manually set French and OOo switches automatically to English. If now OOo switches languages automatically according to keyboard layout, I suggest: 1) To set such behaviour as default; 2) To make this feature optional; 3) To remove option Only for this document which sets the language of the document (it is senseless now); 4) To replace the above option with option Turn off automatic language switch for this document. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@sw.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@sw.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: allbugs-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: allbugs-h...@openoffice.org
[sw-issues] [Issue 100762] Different languages with one keyboard layout aren't possible
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=100762 User helen_russian changed the following: What|Old value |New value CC|''|'helen_russian' - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@sw.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@sw.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: allbugs-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: allbugs-h...@openoffice.org
[sw-issues] [Issue 100762] Different languages with one keyboard layout aren't possible
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=100762 User es changed the following: What|Old value |New value CC|'helen_russian' |'helen_russian,sba' Assigned to|writerneedsconfirm|mba Ever confirmed| |1 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW Target milestone|--- |OOo 3.x --- Additional comments from e...@openoffice.org Wed Apr 1 18:42:33 + 2009 --- @MBA: can we keep the implementation of issue 1035 and improve 91552 to fix this? Provided I have a German Keyboard layout and can switch to Russian but my text will be written either in English or in Russian: - Tools - Options - Language Settings - Languages - Default languages for documents - English - New Text (The language bar shows Enflish thouh my Layout is German = Ok!) - Type This is English (The formatting shows English) - Switch Keyboard Layout to Russian - Type Это русский язык (The formatting shows Russian) - Switch Keyboard Layout back to German - Type This is English - The formatting shows German Can we make issue 1035 optional? - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@sw.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@sw.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: allbugs-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: allbugs-h...@openoffice.org
