[sw-issues] [Issue 4579] Special Character Shortcuts

2010-06-29 Thread mru
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[sw-issues] [Issue 4579] Special Character Shortcuts

2009-03-13 Thread eyalroz
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[sw-issues] [Issue 4579] Special Character Shortcuts

2009-03-04 Thread mba
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This issue depends on issue 99432, which changed state:

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  Status|STARTED   |RESOLVED

  Resolution|  |FIXED





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[sw-issues] [Issue 4579] Special Character Shortcuts

2009-03-04 Thread mba
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This issue depends on issue 99465, which changed state:

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[sw-issues] [Issue 4579] Special Character Shortcuts

2009-02-20 Thread mba
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[sw-issues] [Issue 4579] Special Character Shortcuts

2009-02-19 Thread mba
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[sw-issues] [Issue 4579] Special Character Shortcuts

2009-02-15 Thread mba
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--- Additional comments from m...@openoffice.org Sun Feb 15 15:40:24 + 
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taking over from as

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[sw-issues] [Issue 4579] Special Character Shortcuts

2008-11-14 Thread sba
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This issue depends on issue 4756, which changed state:

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[sw-issues] [Issue 4579] Special Character Shortcuts

2008-11-14 Thread sba
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[sw-issues] [Issue 4579] Special Character Shortcuts

2008-11-13 Thread nickleus
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Nov 13 10:33:12 + 
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corigo, i completely agree:
Also, maybe this needs to be moved out of Word Processor and into OOo Base so 
that its functionality is included in Calc, and Presentation as well?

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[sw-issues] [Issue 4579] Special Character Shortcuts

2008-11-13 Thread corigo
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Nov 13 10:27:10 + 
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We're on OOo 3.0 now... maybe it's time to move this out of OOo Later and back 
into OOo sooner? 

Also, maybe this needs to be moved out of Word Processor and into OOo Base so 
that its functionality is included in Calc, and Presentation as well?

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[sw-issues] [Issue 4579] Special Character Shortcuts

2008-10-17 Thread mru
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[sw-issues] [Issue 4579] Special Character Shortcuts

2008-09-19 Thread pirtepiraja
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Sep 19 09:07:16 + 
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I'm using OOo Writer in both Linux and Windows. In Windows, I have been using
also MS Word, in which I can use Ctrl+Alt+Num- (minus) by default to type the
m-dash. In Linux, it is easy to assign the m-dash to a Compose Key (I'm using
the left  right Win_key+hyphen) so that it works not only in OOo but also in
the web browser, etc. 

My problem is that as I work in different system environments and with two or
three different word processors (more and more exclusively with OOo, however),
and it's a bit inconvenient having to remember the different key combinations in
each of them. (In Linux, it's easy to remember that the Win-key is the compose
key, because no other function has been assigned to it.)

Now it would be nice if I could assign an m-dash macro e.g. to the key
combination Ctrl+Alt+Num- in the Windows version of OOo Writer - this seems to
be no option, since there are only a few key combinations available, as far as I
know. I had to assign em-dash to Ctrl+m. There should be more options for key
combinations, I think, as has been argued in this thread already.

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[sw-issues] [Issue 4579] Special Character Shortcuts

2008-07-03 Thread os
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[sw-issues] [Issue 4579] Special Character Shortcuts

2008-04-24 Thread as
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Apr 24 06:53:25 + 
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gudmund, redi2go, mbayer: Please don't use these task for pure discussion. Do so
on an more appropriate channel e.g. [EMAIL PROTECTED] THX.

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[sw-issues] [Issue 4579] Special Character Shortcuts

2008-04-23 Thread mfrasca
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Apr 23 11:37:30 + 
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...  but: is this really a problem within OpenOffice?  or isn't it an operating
system issue?  on Linux, there's no such need: I type Compose ' a and get á,
Compose  U - Ü, Compose / L - Ł, Compose b a - ă, Compose ' r - ŕ...  you
name them, you learn them...  

other example?  take the small Nokia N810, it's the module of the operating
system taking care of handling keyboard input that allows the user to write
national characters.  keep the 'chr' key pressed and hit the 'a' four times to
get the fourth accent available on the 'a'... a bit clumsy, but it also works in
all programs.

IMHO it really should not be a concern of the application developer to fill in
the blanks left by the operating system...  I think this is a MSWindows issue,
not OpenOffice's.  so if you are affected by this issue, you might consider
running OpenOffice on Linux...  just a hint.  :)

(obviously the 'Compose' on my keyboard is marked 'Caps Lock'!)

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[sw-issues] [Issue 4579] Special Character Shortcuts

2008-04-23 Thread mbayer
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Apr 23 12:17:09 + 
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mbayer-mfrasca: Well, I AM running OOo on Linux and I can tell you that
nonetheless there IS a demand for this feature (as also the 34 votes show).
Recommending the change of the O/S is without any use to those that can not
liberally choose it (just think enterprise users). Also, the use of keyboard
tools, like MS' keyboard layout creator, might not be allowed anywhere. Then,
there are thousands of characters available via Insert - Special Character that
you can not type in with your keyboard, even if you learned how to use the
compose key. Plus, the feature requested is already implemented; you can define
keyboard shortcuts for special characters by editing the config file manually.
Thus, all we need is an enhancement of the Tools - Customize - Keyboard GUI.

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[sw-issues] [Issue 4579] Special Character Shortcuts

2008-04-23 Thread gudmund
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Apr 23 12:24:55 + 
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Once you set out to write a cross-platform application, it does become the
concern of the application developer to fill in the blanks left by the operating
system, or the application doesn't do its intended job in the concerned 
platform.

Even if it were a MSWindows issue, it would still be an OpenOffice issue too, as
long as OpenOffice is intended to run on Windows.

As for considering running OpenOffice on Linux, I've done so for many years, but
still *have to* use Windows for most tasks, as do a fair number of people, for
reasons other than ignorance or bloodymindedness on their own part. I see the
smiley, but can't help getting frustrated.

If you know of a general method for getting special characters via sensible
keyboard actions in platforms where this doesn't work in OpenOffice today,
please tell us all. 

BTW, I wonder if the special characters features in Linux you're talking about,
e. g. getting ß by pressing AltGr+S - S don't depend on a few things like locale
settings, keyboard layout etc. etc.

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[sw-issues] [Issue 4579] Special Character Shortcuts

2008-04-23 Thread redi2go
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Apr 23 12:41:28 + 
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gudmund - 'If you know of a general method for getting special characters via
sensible keyboard actions in platforms where this doesn't work in OpenOffice
today, please tell us all.' 

I thought this was exactly what the macro I posted last May did...

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[sw-issues] [Issue 4579] Special Character Shortcuts

2008-04-23 Thread gudmund
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Apr 23 12:45:07 + 
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Once you set out to write a cross-platform application, it does become the
concern of the application developer to fill in the blanks left by the operating
system, or the application doesn't do its intended job in the concerned 
platform.

Even if it were a MSWindows issue, it would still be an OpenOffice issue too, as
long as OpenOffice is intended to run on Windows.

As for considering running OpenOffice on Linux, I've done so for many years, but
still *have to* use Windows for most tasks, as do a fair number of people, for
reasons other than ignorance or bloodymindedness on their own part. I see the
smiley, but can't help getting frustrated.

If you know of a general method for getting special characters via sensible
keyboard actions in platforms where this doesn't work in OpenOffice today,
please tell us all. 

BTW, I wonder if the special characters features in Linux you're talking about,
e. g. getting ß by pressing AltGr+S - S don't depend on a few things like locale
settings, keyboard layout etc. etc.

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[sw-issues] [Issue 4579] Special Character Shortcuts

2008-04-23 Thread gudmund
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Apr 23 13:01:51 + 
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@redi2go: I must have either missed that, or it's due to my being on the tenth
(twentieth?) OOo installation since last May, some of the last ones being
special things for dealing with the infamous OOXML format, and the next upcoming
being for hopefully getting to terms with OOo shortcomings in regular 
expressions. 

Depending on macros for performing standard tasks isn't a solution, much as I
appreciate the effort. Will download and try it at any rate, thanks for the 
effort!

(I notice my last post got posted twice. This was probably triggered by my
reloading/updating the page in Firefox, sorry!)

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[sw-issues] [Issue 4579] Special Character Shortcuts

2008-04-23 Thread mfrasca
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Apr 23 16:28:49 + 
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ok, points taken...  but just partially...  About the frustration: I also have
to use windows at office, but then I'm lucky I have to write just in Dutch or
English, where the accents are rarely needed...

the way Compose works is not dependent on the locale settings, as far as I 
know.  

admittedly, there are keys I cannot produce with Compose-key1-key2, like some
Vietnamese vocals topped by two or three accents, or all Arabic characters.

...

Even if I think I understand frustration and the need for a better solution than
something which is only available on Linux and is not at all complete, I still
think this should be solved somewhere in the operating system, not in each of
its client applications.  In my opinion, doing so (offering this option in each
client of the OS) leads to a configuration nightmare.  I don't know if there are
any extensions to Windows (nor to Linux) than enable us to configure our
keyboards in a more complete way, but if I were a windows user (or if I needed
typing Vietnamese), I would look for something like that, I would not ask
openoffice to provide me with something which will only work within openoffice
and which I would miss in abiword, emacs and vi.

until I find such a tool, I would use your macro, very probably.
ciaociao.

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[sw-issues] [Issue 4579] Special Character Shortcuts

2008-04-23 Thread mfrasca
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[sw-issues] [Issue 4579] Special Character Shortcuts

2008-04-23 Thread gudmund
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Apr 23 19:38:25 + 
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There's no sign in sight one would have to worry about a configuration
nightmare, at least as far as Windows is concerned. I'd be happy to be proven
wrong, but the chances of Windows getting a global ability of *easily* typing
any manner of characters any time soon, look exceedingly remote. It would
probably have to go FOSS before that happens.

Apart from this, with all the characters possible in e. g. UTF8, there would
always be a large amount of characters that wouldn't be practicable to access
with keyboard combos without switching keyboard layout.

So the bug would still stand, it seems.

Switching keyboard layouts (yes, it's possible in Windows - if an Admin/root has
installed the corresponding language packs, activated this that and whatnot
etc.) and then dealing with unfamiliar key placements, is precisely what fixing
this bug would help us avoid.

Since no really useful *standard* solution seems to exist for at least Windows
(no, using Windows Charmap just isn't practical enough, and there most probably
are no other *standard* solutions), it has to be solved some other way. As for
missing features between apps - that happens all the time. Just take having to
use different spellcheck dictionaries for different apps, forcing you to
duplicate and triplicate work. 

Sad, but hard to avoid unless all the involved app makers and the OS makers
start talking to each others and standardize.

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[sw-issues] [Issue 4579] Special Character Shortcuts

2007-10-05 Thread markmushakian
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  CC|'asrail,gudmund,kamataki,m|'asrail,gudmund,kamataki,m
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[sw-issues] [Issue 4579] Special Character Shortcuts

2007-08-13 Thread mbayer
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Aug 13 18:26:59 + 
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My vote for enhancing the Tools  Customize  Keyboard dialogue so that it
supports a) shortcuts for an arbitrary character to be inserted (Writer) b)
shortcuts with the AltGr key (all modules).

Please note that both is already possible, if you configure the accelerator
configuration file manually. (Those who understand German may read on
http://www.ooowiki.de/TastaturAnpassen .) So only a suitable GUI is missing or
the enhancement of the existing Tools  Customize  Keyboard dialogue is needed,
respectively.

Given the number of votes, CC'ed persons, duplicates, and user requests on the
mailing lists on this (missing) feature on the one hand, and the
already-implemented core technology for this feature on the other hand, we
shouldn't delegate this to an Extension. It should be able to use shortcuts with
the AltGr key in the vanilla OOo, and it should be possible to use shortcuts
for inserting special characters.

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[sw-issues] [Issue 4579] Special Character Shortcuts

2007-05-08 Thread redi2go
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue May  8 16:08:52 + 
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AS
'The office knows all the stuff you describe here'. Thanks for the laugh. If the
office knows so much why have I and thousands of other users been struggling for
years to insert special characters when there's been a perfectly good solution
available all along?

Being a diligent sort of person, I spent an hour or so searching through a few
pages of google hits trying to find out how to write an extension. None of them
gave me any useful information. Eventually I found Chapter 5 of the OO
Developers Guide. This is completely incomprehensible to someone who needed a
day to learn enough OO and Basic to write a 10-line macro.

So I've decided to follow the lead shown by all the oo bug reports I've filed or
supported. I've put it on an enhancement list and given it a target date for
completion of 'none'. That should sort the matter nicely.

Meanwhile, for anyone living in the real world who wants a copy of this
invaluable little macro, I've put some corrected code on my website
http://www.billhibbert.com with accompanying notes, and anyone who wants it can
go and get it...


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[sw-issues] [Issue 4579] Special Character Shortcuts

2007-05-08 Thread as
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed May  9 05:38:50 + 
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AS-redy2go:

 Thanks for the laugh. If the office knows so much why have I and
 thousands of other users been struggling for years to insert special
 characters when there's been a perfectly good solution available all along?

Sorry - It was not my intention to annoy you !
But it's true. Nobody can understand why a so easy task wont be fixed in time.
The problem behind: there are ~50-60 developers on OOo. A normal developer has
~ 200-300 issue in it's intray. Some developers (mostly project or co leads) has
more then
500 issues. And believe me - all of them are important enough to  be fixed asap.
On the other side - the day has 24 hours only :-)

The problem with these task is - it does not have a high prio (compared with
other tasks). E.g. vista support, crashes etcpp are more important - sorry. So
these task wont be fixed within an OOo 2.x timeframe ... excepting somehwere of
the community will be able to fix it.

What has to be done to fix this task realy ?
The special characters dialog has to be rewritten. It has to show the set of
special characters and must provide the possibility to define shortcuts there
directly.
If you know somewhere which is able to write a new VCL dialog in C++ - tell me
its name. I will give you all support I can give (CVS handling, QA step etcpp).

Your question regarding extension development ...
You should try these:
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Extensions_Packager;.

Regards
Andreas

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[sw-issues] [Issue 4579] Special Character Shortcuts

2007-05-08 Thread as
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed May  9 05:42:04 + 
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AS-redi2go: ... I've forgot .. further communication about your macro should be
done via email [EMAIL PROTECTED]  ... not here inside this issue. THX.

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[sw-issues] [Issue 4579] Special Character Shortcuts

2007-05-07 Thread as
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon May  7 07:46:52 + 
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AS-redi2go:

Thanks for your patch. Unfortunately it does not  fix the real problem mentioned
by this task. The office already knows all the stuff you describe here. It
already have a full featured accelerator configuration .. further a generic
shortcut handler exists. The missing part is that there is no UI to bind special
characters to shortcuts. There is a dialog showing special characters ... and
there is a dialog for shortcuts ... but they doesn't work together. The idea: it
should be possible to define shortcuts directly within the special character
dialog. So this issue address the missing UI part.

On the other side your macro will be an usefully extension. You should pack it
as an extension (OXT file) and place it on
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Extensions; especialy in the extension
repository http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Extensions_repository;.

Best Regards
AS

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[sw-issues] [Issue 4579] Special Character Shortcuts

2007-05-05 Thread redi2go
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat May  5 16:05:21 + 
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I've been thinking about this and attach a solution. It's a trivial macro that
looks up a character pair in a table and if it finds a match substitutes a
corresponding accented character. The macro can be bound to any key of the
user's choice - I use ctrl+shift+z and it works fine for me. Note it only needs
ONE special key regardless of how many translate pairs you've defined.

So if I type e: then immediately press ctrl+shift+z to invoke the macro, the two
characters are replaced by ë. If I don't call the macro then nothing is changed.

This version of the macro includes a translate table that covers most European
languages and a few odd symbols such as © which are useful to me, but it's
trivial to modify for any specific purpose or preference. It could certainly be
made faster, but is designed for simplicity and clarity. It would be nice if:

1) somebody could compile a master list of translations, so that users could
subset as they needed;
2) it could be generalised to work with spreadsheets and presentations etc - at
the moment it only works in text documents. To go further would require far more
time than I have available (it's not the doing it's the learning how!)

Hope it's useful...

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[sw-issues] [Issue 4579] Special Character Shortcuts

2007-05-05 Thread redi2go
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat May  5 16:09:28 + 
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Created an attachment (id=44886)
macro to insert accented character


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[sw-issues] [Issue 4579] Special Character Shortcuts

2007-05-05 Thread discoleo
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat May  5 19:59:12 + 
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Nice thing to see at least a workaround.

I append some language specific diacritics here, as I believe that it makes more
sense to define them based on the language to use and the available keyboard to
write (then have a big list with all the possibilities).

See also http://www.umich.edu/~langres/diacritics/french.html for
language-specific common diacritics.

Characters suitable for replacement on an English keyboard:
one keystroke (these are preferred): ` ' / \
two keystrokes (shift + ...): ~ :  
rather difficult to type: ^


German characters

A   Ää
O   Öö
U   Üü
s   ß

Romanian characters

A   ĂăÂâ
I   Îî
S   Şş
T   Ţţ

French characters

A   ÀàÂâÄä
C   Çç
E   ÈèÉéÊê
I   ÎîÏï
O   ÔôÖö
U   ÙùÛû
...

By the way:
# Is there any other word using 'ç', except for 'françai...'?
# Is there any other word using 'ù' except for 'où'?
...

Of course, most European languages use diacritics, so this list could be
enhanced. (See also previous web-address for Italian, Portuguese, Spanish and
Swedish.) Hungarian and Slavic languages are missing.

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[sw-issues] [Issue 4579] Special Character Shortcuts

2007-05-05 Thread redi2go
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat May  5 22:57:14 + 
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Discoleo, as far as I'm concerned, to my problem it's a solution, not a
workaround. The only improvement that really interests me is having it available
for spreadsheets too, but I don't care enough to make the necessary changes 
myself.

Thanks for your character suggestions, but the macro already has over 120
diacriticals, including as far as I know all those in Hungarian and Romanian
(although since I speak neither of those languages, I can't be certain). I
suggest you examine the downloaded file, or even install the macro on your
system and try it!

I should say that I do not intend to do any further work on this - it's
available for those who want to use it, and that's it as far as I'm concerned.

Ref Ç it's in many other words eg façon, rançon etc. Ref Ù I can't think of
another French example although I'm sure one exists, but it is also used in
Italian eg virtù. There's no cost to having it in the list so it's there.

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[sw-issues] [Issue 4579] Special Character Shortcuts

2007-05-05 Thread redi2go
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  CC|'asrail,gudmund,kamataki,m|'asrail,gudmund,kamataki,m
|anens,peschtra,pmike,regin|anens,peschtra,pmike,redi2
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[sw-issues] [Issue 4579] Special Character Shortcuts

2007-04-30 Thread redi2go
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Apr 30 12:44:39 + 
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I would like to support opaben's suggestion for this issue - ie use the same
mechanism as Word. It's simple, straightforward, and provides lots of extra
characters without using up too many keyboard shortcuts.

This issue has been around forever and really needs to get sorted - to do even
simple translation work I have to switch to Word, one more reason why I have to
continue to buy MS Office upgrades...

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[sw-issues] [Issue 4579] Special Character Shortcuts

2007-04-30 Thread redi2go
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Apr 30 12:48:30 + 
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Also, should not issue 6847 be folded into this one - they're obviously the same
basic problem.

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[sw-issues] [Issue 4579] Special Character Shortcuts

2007-02-19 Thread gudmund
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Feb 19 11:10:25 + 
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Whatever solution is found should *definitely* be implemented throughout the
suite! Anything else would be a truly bad joke.

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[sw-issues] [Issue 4579] Special Character Shortcuts

2007-02-18 Thread opaben
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Feb 19 01:32:59 + 
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This issues has generated much discussion but apparently little action. The 
delay may be due to the great variety of viewpoints and of possible techniques.

For generating accented letters [letters with diacritics], Word has a built-in 
process using dead-keys. For ex, press Ctrl+` [dead-key] and then e to get è, 
or A to get À, etc. Very efficient, simple, and intuitive.
I think it would be very useful if something like that were included in Writer 
[or perhaps throughout OOo].



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[sw-issues] [Issue 4579] Special Character Shortcuts

2007-01-03 Thread asrail
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[sw-issues] [Issue 4579] Special Character Shortcuts

2006-11-30 Thread manens
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[sw-issues] [Issue 4579] Special Character Shortcuts

2006-10-18 Thread pmike
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[sw-issues] [Issue 4579] Special Character Shortcuts

2006-08-18 Thread discoleo
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Aug 18 16:12:56 -0700 
2006 ---
I have described an alternative method to implement this in issue:
http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=67500

Instead of using a key combination, a simple work-around would be to use
automatic word-replacements, e.g.
  a' = to some special character (e.g. ä)
  A' = another special character (e.g. Ä)
  a+ = some other special character
  ...

Hovever, for this to work, the automatic replacement should be alble to perform
replacements inside words, too (not just whole words).

Therefore,
 - either create a second replacement list, that specifies strings that are
always replaced, even if it is not a word (e.g. Gra'ser = Gräser, in German 
grass)
 - or implement the more advanced feature of issue 67500 (i.e. wildcards in
replacement lists)

This type of implementation will not depend on any keystroke  combinations (like
alt+shift+something), and would easy allow implementing many special characters
simultaneously, withoud the need for very dumb and hard to remember key
combinations. (When choosing key combinations just for a few special characters,
it is easy to assign meaningfull ones. However, if you try to extend the list of
those special chars, you get really fast into trouble. My solution creates more
logical pseudo-shortcuts.)

If you find my solution good, please vote for that issue, too. Some of the
developers showed somehow less optimism for that one.

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[sw-issues] [Issue 4579] Special Character Shortcuts

2006-08-18 Thread pesala
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Aug 18 21:51:39 -0700 
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There are lots of work-arounds for this issue, but work-arounds are not what is 
wanted. What is wanted is more shortcut assignment options.

1. Use of Alt Key combinations as well as Control, Control Shift. Two 
keystrokes shortcuts like ~n to type ñ as in Word, might also be wanted by some 
users. 
2. Direct assignment of text — one or more characters
3. A simplified dialogue like that attached to make the customising process 
easier. 

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[sw-issues] [Issue 4579] Special Character Shortcuts

2006-07-08 Thread pesala
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Jul  8 11:21:32 -0700 
2006 ---
Alt-key assignments are useful for much more than typing special characters. 
They 
can replace other shortcuts freeing the control key for typing accented 
characters, 
which is the easiest key combination to use, as it exists on both sides of the 
keyboard. Typing codepoints into a dialogue requires more keystrokes and one 
needs 
to remember the numbers. This is a very inefficient way to type foreign 
characters.

In Opera I can type āīūḍḷṃṇṭ very easily with the control key. If I need to use 
Alt 
for typing or other functions I can — no problem — alt m = m-dash, since 
control m 
is already used to type ṃ (m dot below). 

For a word-processor, the current limit of control and control shift is too 
limited.

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[sw-issues] [Issue 4579] Special Character Shortcuts

2006-07-08 Thread nickleus
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Jul  8 13:07:31 -0700 
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believe me, i am a fan of keyboard shortcuts, but i'm think of the time usage of
the developers and what would be fastest to implement, plus the fact that most
(all?) keyboard shortcuts do something that already is in the menu, so start
with the menu first.

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[sw-issues] [Issue 4579] Special Character Shortcuts

2005-05-10 Thread es
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue May 10 00:17:09 -0700 
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*** Issue 46994 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***

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