[sw-issues] [Issue 59506] Defaulting to collate pag es

2009-06-02 Thread pl
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What|Old value |New value

  Status|REOPENED  |RESOLVED

  Resolution|  |FIXED





--- Additional comments from p...@openoffice.org Tue Jun  2 11:43:41 + 
2009 ---
so if that other one is reopened, why not close this one again

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[sw-issues] [Issue 59506] Defaulting to collate pag es

2009-06-02 Thread pl
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  Status|RESOLVED  |CLOSED





--- Additional comments from p...@openoffice.org Tue Jun  2 11:44:29 + 
2009 ---
closing

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[sw-issues] [Issue 59506] Defaulting to collate pag es

2009-05-30 Thread mba
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--- Additional comments from m...@openoffice.org Sat May 30 09:02:07 + 
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I thought that the issue submitter asked to change the default to collating
and indeed this was fixed. If people ask for make this default changeable
itself, this should be another issue.

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[sw-issues] [Issue 59506] Defaulting to collate pag es

2009-05-30 Thread regina
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  CC|'jolatt,mba'  |'jolatt,mba,regina'





--- Additional comments from reg...@openoffice.org Sat May 30 11:34:51 
+ 2009 ---
That issue already exists: issue 101973, which was set to duplicate to issue
59506 by es.

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[sw-issues] [Issue 59506] Defaulting to collate pag es

2009-05-30 Thread crxssi
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--- Additional comments from crx...@openoffice.org Sat May 30 13:03:36 
+ 2009 ---
You took the words right out of my mouth!

I *did* create a new issue, ( issue 101973 ), and it was quickly marked as a
duplicate and closed!  :)   THIS issue (59506) was probably re-opened when it
was realized that just changing the default created more problems than it
supposedly fixed.

Should I create yet another?  Should Issue 101973 be re-opened?

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[sw-issues] [Issue 59506] Defaulting to collate pag es

2009-05-30 Thread mba
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--- Additional comments from m...@openoffice.org Sat May 30 23:50:06 + 
2009 ---
IMHO it was wrong to mark issue 101973 as duplicate. Issue 59506 explicitly asks
for making Collate the default and that is implemented. Issue 101973 is
clearly recognizable a follow-up issue. I don't want to look bureaucratic, but
IMHO we should close this issue and reopen 101973. Just to make it easier to see
what needs to be done. Reading this issue here will be more confusing than 
helpful.

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[sw-issues] [Issue 59506] Defaulting to collate pag es

2009-05-30 Thread crxssi
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--- Additional comments from crx...@openoffice.org Sun May 31 01:25:48 
+ 2009 ---
I re-opened issue 101973 and added refined info from my other long posting here.
 Perhaps it will be left open and people monitoring THIS issue should go over
there.  At this point, I just don't care where it is, as long as people know
there is a problem that needs to be solved.

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[sw-issues] [Issue 59506] Defaulting to collate pag es

2009-05-29 Thread mba
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What|Old value |New value

  Status|NEW   |RESOLVED

  Resolution|  |FIXED





--- Additional comments from m...@openoffice.org Fri May 29 14:36:02 + 
2009 ---
It seems that this was already implemented some time ago. 

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[sw-issues] [Issue 59506] Defaulting to collate pag es

2009-05-29 Thread mba
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What|Old value |New value

  CC|'jolatt'  |'jolatt,mba'

 Assigned to|requirements  |hi





--- Additional comments from m...@openoffice.org Fri May 29 14:36:30 + 
2009 ---
Please proceed.

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[sw-issues] [Issue 59506] Defaulting to collate pag es

2009-05-29 Thread hi
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  Status|RESOLVED  |REOPENED

  Resolution|FIXED |





--- Additional comments from h...@openoffice.org Fri May 29 19:42:36 + 
2009 ---
Currently the collate check box is enabled by default.
It is even enabled for an one page document.
Some user maybe wants the opposite, so lets make it adjustable.  

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[sw-issues] [Issue 59506] Defaulting to collate pag es

2009-05-29 Thread hi
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User hi changed the following:

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 Assigned to|hi|pl

Target milestone|---   |OOo 3.2





--- Additional comments from h...@openoffice.org Fri May 29 19:37:08 + 
2009 ---
@PL: Could we add this to printerpullpages cws?

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[sw-issues] [Issue 59506] Defaulting to collate pag es

2009-05-29 Thread crxssi
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--- Additional comments from crx...@openoffice.org Fri May 29 21:54:21 
+ 2009 ---
mba said:
It seems that this was already implemented some time ago. 

Implemented where?  When?.  I am using 3.1.0 in Linux and I don't see any way to
control the default behavior of collate user-wide, printer-wide, or system-wide.
 It is currently hard-coded to be ON and the user can only temporarily turn it 
off.

Now, you might have some type of different option under some other OS
(MSWin/MacOS) but not under the latest OO running under Linux.

As I said before, it is currently a major mess for people running Linux using
intelligent page printers (like mid-range/high-rage laser printers and copiers).

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[sw-issues] [Issue 59506] Defaulting to collate pag es

2009-05-20 Thread es
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--- Additional comments from e...@openoffice.org Wed May 20 13:30:30 + 
2009 ---
*** Issue 101973 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***

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[sw-issues] [Issue 59506] Defaulting to collate pag es

2009-05-20 Thread crxssi
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--- Additional comments from crx...@openoffice.org Wed May 20 22:27:31 
+ 2009 ---
Some people will want collate on as the default... just for convenience.  Many
people have asked for it, and unfortunately it was given to them in OO 3.0.  But
many other people will have severe problems with the default being on, and our
business is one of them (as I explained in a previous comment, above).

The suggestion about storing the setting per printer is probably not practical,
since there is no user interface in OO that addresses saved options on a
per-printer basis (unless they want to resurrect the spadmin tool, which is now
pretty much dead).  Storing such a setting in a document doesn't really make any
sense.

So the only best remaining way to handle the problem is to make an option in
tools-printing that can hold a user's preference for collation:

1) Remember previously used state
2) Always default to off
3) Always default to on
4) Always remain off (and don't show option in print dialog)

With the default setting for new installations set to #1 (since that is most
logical).

That would solve the problem for most people once and for all.  Although there
should also be a way that a system administrator can set the default for new
users, to make the problem absolutely solvable on systems where printers do
their own collation all the time (which is most modern laser printers and 
copiers).

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[sw-issues] [Issue 59506] Defaulting to collate pag es

2009-05-15 Thread crxssi
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--- Additional comments from crx...@openoffice.org Fri May 15 20:45:07 
+ 2009 ---
The behavior in OO 3.X was changed...  Now the default in OO is to always have
collate on in the print dialog, with no default choice allowed, without
remembering the previous setting, and with no system-wide settings option.

This is a now MAJOR problem for us.  Under Linux/CUPS with network PS printers,
the printer handles collation automatically.  You just send a multipaged job to
the printer, and the number of copies.  The printer will repeat the job in it's
memory quickly and efficiently.

Now that the default in OO has changed, the users don't know that they are NOT
supposed to check Collate.  When you check that box, OpenOffice will generate
the output N number of times.  When a user requests 100 copies of a 50MB
document, OO now sends 5,000MB of data to the printer. It causes tremendous
waste of CPU (we are centralized with thin clients) and tremendous waste of
network bandwidth. It also slows down the printing process.  All because that
default was changed.

I can't find a way to change the default to OFF like it used to be before OO
3.X. We need an environment variable or a way to hack the config files in the
installation directory.

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[sw-issues] [Issue 59506] Defaulting to collate pag es

2008-11-25 Thread didier12
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Nov 25 17:25:06 + 
2008 ---
Depuis la version 2.4 et 3.0 d'open, la fonction imprimer coche systématiquement
l'option assembler qui à par conséquence, lorsque l'on imprime plusieurs
Je voudrais par défaut décocher Assembler dans la fonction impression mais je ne
trouve nulle part cette option.

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[sw-issues] [Issue 59506] Defaulting to collate pag es

2008-07-17 Thread jolatt
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[sw-issues] [Issue 59506] Defaulting to collate pag es

2008-06-08 Thread schp
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Jun  8 20:17:01 + 
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I have voted for this Issue. Please reconsider the target milestone 
if somehow possible!

I mostly prefer to have all my printing jobs not collated.
But in the 2.4 is the setting: collate enabled always, disabled newer. 


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