[sw-issues] [Issue 92577] Linebreaking does not work properly with Japanese punctuation

2009-03-06 Thread sba
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  Status|VERIFIED  |CLOSED





--- Additional comments from s...@openoffice.org Fri Mar  6 18:52:33 + 
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OK in OOO310_m3. Closing issue.

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[sw-issues] [Issue 92577] Linebreaking does not work properly with Japanese punctuation

2008-10-06 Thread sba
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Target milestone|OOo 3.x   |OOo 3.1





--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Oct  6 10:31:40 + 
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Correcting target to OOo 3.1. CWS i18n45 is already integrated.

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[sw-issues] [Issue 92577] Linebreaking does not work properly with Japanese punctuation

2008-09-18 Thread sba
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Sep 18 09:09:25 + 
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SBA: Verified in CWS i18n45.
I will attach a bugdoc that has all given example characters from the initial
description at line ends. To see, add and remove i letters to shift the text
of the respective line.

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[sw-issues] [Issue 92577] Linebreaking does not work properly with Japanese punctuation

2008-09-18 Thread sba
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Sep 18 09:10:37 + 
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Created an attachment (id=56602)
Bugdoc with all given example characters at line ends


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[sw-issues] [Issue 92577] Linebreaking does not work properly with Japanese punctuation

2008-09-17 Thread tora
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Sep 18 05:13:15 + 
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tora-khong, thanks a lot.


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[sw-issues] [Issue 92577] Linebreaking does not work properly with Japanese punctuation

2008-09-10 Thread sba
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  CC|'catch,curvirgo,er,kamatak|'catch,curvirgo,er,kamatak
|i,masayan,tora'   |i,khong,masayan,tora'





--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Sep 10 13:16:40 + 
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Added khong on c/c.
Stefan - Karl: Please note toras last question and comment. Thank you.

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[sw-issues] [Issue 92577] Linebreaking does not work properly with Japanese punctuation

2008-09-10 Thread khong
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Sep 10 18:33:51 + 
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khong-tora, yes, that is the list currently implemented in cws i18n45.

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[sw-issues] [Issue 92577] Linebreaking does not work properly with Japanese punctuation

2008-09-02 Thread catch
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  CC|'curvirgo,er,kamataki,masa|'catch,curvirgo,er,kamatak
|yan,tora' |i,masayan,tora'





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[sw-issues] [Issue 92577] Linebreaking does not work properly with Japanese punctuation

2008-09-02 Thread tora
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Sep  2 06:40:50 + 
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tora-khong: Could you revise the locale data of Japanese?

  LineBreakHangingCharacters、。,./LineBreakHangingCharacters

Notes:
 - 、 u3001 IDEOGRAPHIC COMMA
 - 。 u3002 IDEOGRAPHIC FULL STOP
 - , uFF0C FULLWIDTH COMMA
 - . uFF0E FULLWIDTH FULL STOP

References: 
 http://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/U3000.pdf
 http://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/UFF00.pdf
 http://www.unicode.org/Public/UNIDATA/NamesList.txt

Discussion: 
 http://www.freeml.com/openoffice/11243/latest (Japanese)


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[sw-issues] [Issue 92577] Linebreaking does not work properly with Japanese punctuation

2008-09-01 Thread khong
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 Assigned to|khong |sba





--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Sep  2 02:58:37 + 
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ready for QA.

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[sw-issues] [Issue 92577] Linebreaking does not work properly with Japanese punctuation

2008-08-19 Thread tora
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Aug 19 10:33:37 + 
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tora-khong: Thank you for your implementation.

The list for Japanese might be either (a) or (b). 
(a) LineBreakHangingCharacters、。,./LineBreakHangingCharacters
(b) LineBreakHangingCharacters、。/LineBreakHangingCharacters

I am asking comments in the mailing list of Japanese community and letting 
you know. 


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[sw-issues] [Issue 92577] Linebreaking does not work properly with Japanese punctuation

2008-08-19 Thread masayan
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[sw-issues] [Issue 92577] Linebreaking does not work properly with Japanese punctuation

2008-08-19 Thread curvirgo
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  CC|'er,kamataki,masayan,tora'|'curvirgo,er,kamataki,masa
|  |yan,tora'





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[sw-issues] [Issue 92577] Linebreaking does not work properly with Japanese punctuation

2008-08-18 Thread khong
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  Status|NEW   |RESOLVED

  Resolution|  |FIXED





--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Aug 19 04:34:22 + 
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khong-tora, I add thrid list 

LineBreakHangingCharacters!,.:;?、。!,.:;?/LineBreakHangingCharacters

in localedata for CJK languages. Please let me know if the list is sufficient.

Fixed in cws i18n45.

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[sw-issues] [Issue 92577] Linebreaking does not work properly with Japanese punctuation

2008-08-17 Thread tora
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Aug 18 02:53:11 + 
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tora-khong: I agree with you. 


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[sw-issues] [Issue 92577] Linebreaking does not work properly with Japanese punctuation

2008-08-15 Thread khong
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Aug 15 20:28:57 + 
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If we don't need the compatibility option fme mentioned, I will implement third
list in locale data in i18npool in next release.

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[sw-issues] [Issue 92577] Linebreaking does not work properly with Japanese punctuation

2008-08-12 Thread fme
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Target milestone|OOo 3.1   |OOo 3.x





--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Aug 12 07:37:44 + 
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fme-tora: Thank you for your detailed analysis of this issue. While I agree
that having a third list would be the perfect solution, I'm tempted to ask
whether we can't start with a hard-coded list? Looks like this list is
hard-coded in Word as well. Currently the LineBreakUserOptions which are passed
to the break iterator cannot hold a third list. So introducing a third list 
means:

1. Changing the UI
2. Changing the API
3. Changing settings.xml in the ODF files

Looks like a lot of work for this not-too-much-requested issue. Another point I
like to address is this: Changing the line break algorithm means that existing
documents might change their layout. Can we cope with this or should we
introduce some kind of (hidden) compatibility option so that only new documents
make use of the changed line break behavior?

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[sw-issues] [Issue 92577] Linebreaking does not work properly with Japanese punctuation

2008-08-12 Thread khong
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Aug 12 18:33:15 + 
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Forbiden rule characters are editible by end users, so it needs to be passed
from writer to breakiterator. If the third hanging punctuation list is hidden
from end users, we can keep it in locale data, wihch will be known only inside
i18npool module, and no API and UI changes are required.

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[sw-issues] [Issue 92577] Linebreaking does not work properly with Japanese punctuation

2008-08-11 Thread fme
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Aug 11 06:54:44 + 
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fme-larsko: I think its the characters listed in Tools - Options - Language
Settings - Asian Layout - Not at start of line.

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[sw-issues] [Issue 92577] Linebreaking does not work properly with Japanese punctuation

2008-08-11 Thread larsko
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Aug 11 07:15:05 + 
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fme: So all those characters are allowed as hanging punctuation? Seems a bit 
much since the w3 recommendation only specifies dot and comma. The Japanese 
wikipedia article on this topic [1] also only specifies real punctuation. 
Should the small Kana etc. really be part of hanging punctuation?

[1] http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/ぶら下げ組み

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[sw-issues] [Issue 92577] Linebreaking does not work properly with Japanese punctuation

2008-08-11 Thread fme
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  Resolution|INVALID   |





--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Aug 11 08:52:45 + 
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fme-larsko: Thanks for the pointer. It looks like making the hanging
punctuation depend on the forbidden characters does not seem to be correct.

fme-khong: Please have a look and take over. Looks like Word also does not
allow all the not-at-start to be hanging punctuation either.

fme-tora: Any input from your side?

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[sw-issues] [Issue 92577] Linebreaking does not work properly with Japanese punctuation

2008-08-11 Thread fme
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 Assigned to|fme   |khong

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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Aug 11 08:53:17 + 
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[sw-issues] [Issue 92577] Linebreaking does not work properly with Japanese punctuation

2008-08-11 Thread tora
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Aug 11 19:20:34 + 
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tora-fme: Thank you for giving me a chance to comment. 

Current implementation of OOo has two lists of characters: 
 (1) Not at start of line
 (2) Not at end of line

Theoretical implementation might have three lists of characters:
 (1) Not at start of line
 (2) Not at end of line
 (3) Punctuation 

Current implementation of OOo treats (1) as (3) while Word seems to use three 
lists. In Word, a set of both (1) and (2) can be tweaked in a similar way of 
OOo through one of the followings:
 - the tab Asian Typography of the menu Tools  Options
 - the button Options in the tab Asian Typography of the menu Format  Paragraph

Word names (1) Cannnot start line: and (2) Cannot end line:. 

(3) of Word could be specified through somewhere or be hard-coded. I am not 
sure, 
but the dialog Properties of IME 2003 has a combo box listing the following 
combinations:
 (a) 、。 u3001 and u3002 (widely used for several purposes)
 (b) ,. uFF0C and uFF0E (sometimes used in a thesis, similar paper, book,...)
 (c) 、. u3001 and uFF0E (sometimes can be seen in a book or magazine)
 (d) ,。 uFF0C and u3002 (sometimes can be seen in a book or magazine)

http://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/U3000.pdf
http://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/UFF00.pdf

Some punctuation characters described above and some special characters such as 
「 and 」, u300C and u300D can be pushed within the margin. Word offers this 
feature while current OOo does not. A concept of this feature is illustrated 
in http://www.openoffice.org/nonav/issues/showattachment.cgi/18738/concept01.png
attached in the issue 36313. 

http://www.openoffice.org/nonav/issues/showattachment.cgi/18786/Japanese_Justification_0.1.sxw
attached in the issue 36408 does also try to describe the concept, but it has 
not been finished yet. 

In sum, it would be better if OOo has the third list (3) for punctuation 
characters which sorely can be hanged beyond the margin and the first list (1) 
should not be used for the hanging characters. 

In addition to the third list (3), a new feature could be also incorporated. 
The feature compresses a total width of line to meet to the margin by slightly 
shrinking rooms between every characters in a line if the line ends with a 
hanging punctuation character or a combination of one or more hanging 
characters. 


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[sw-issues] [Issue 92577] Linebreaking does not work properly with Japanese punctuation

2008-08-10 Thread larsko
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Aug 11 01:07:35 + 
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fme: thanks for the pointer. I've read up on hanging punctuation, but this only 
seems to include 。 and 、, not any of the other characters I've seen this 
occur with -- which aren't really punctuation (cf. http://www.w3.org/TR/
jlreq/). Can you point me to the reference used when deciding that those 
characters should be included in hanging punctuation?

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[sw-issues] [Issue 92577] Linebreaking does not work properly with Japanese punctuation

2008-08-08 Thread larsko
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 Issue #|92577
 Summary|Linebreaking does not work properly with Japanese punc
|tuation
   Component|Word processor
 Version|OOo 2.4.1
Platform|PC
 URL|
  OS/Version|Linux
  Status|UNCONFIRMED
   Status whiteboard|
Keywords|
  Resolution|
  Issue type|DEFECT
Priority|P3
Subcomponent|formatting
 Assigned to|mru
 Reported by|larsko





--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Aug  8 06:41:26 + 
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The line breaking algorithm does not take Japanese punctuation and some other 
characters into account. This causes the line to extend beyond the text border 
before starting a new line.

To reproduce, type some Japanese text just to the end of the line and then add 
a Japanese period (。) to end the sentence. The period character will be in the 
page margin.

The characters I've seen this occur with are period 。, comma 、, Kanji 
repetition character 々, Katakana long vowel character ー, small Katakana 
characters such as ョェュ.

Exact OpenOffice version is openoffice.org-core 1:2.4.1-6, Sun Jul 13 06:36:47 
UTC 2008 (Debian package).

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[sw-issues] [Issue 92577] Linebreaking does not work properly with Japanese punctuation

2008-08-08 Thread mru
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Aug  8 08:17:08 + 
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MRU-ES: pls evaluate; maybe this is already fixed in 3.0...

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[sw-issues] [Issue 92577] Linebreaking does not work properly with Japanese punctuation

2008-08-08 Thread es
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What|Old value |New value

 Assigned to|es|fme

  Ever confirmed|  |1

  Status|UNCONFIRMED   |NEW

  OS/Version|Linux |All

Target milestone|---   |OOo 3.1

 Version|OOo 2.4.1 |OOo 3.0 Beta 2





--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Aug  8 11:14:10 + 
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Still reproducible in DEV300m29

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[sw-issues] [Issue 92577] Linebreaking does not work properly with Japanese punctuation

2008-08-08 Thread es
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Aug  8 11:15:32 + 
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Created an attachment (id=55654)
a sample file


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[sw-issues] [Issue 92577] Linebreaking does not work properly with Japanese punctuation

2008-08-08 Thread fme
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  Status|NEW   |RESOLVED

  Resolution|  |INVALID





--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Aug  8 11:30:36 + 
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fme-larsko: This is a feature called 'hanging punctuation'. If you have the
Asian features enabled (Tools - Options - Language settings - Languages), you
will find a tab page 'Asian typography' containing a setting 'allow hanging
punctuation' in the Format - Paragraph dialog.

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[sw-issues] [Issue 92577] Linebreaking does not work properly with Japanese punctuation

2008-08-08 Thread fme
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  Status|RESOLVED  |CLOSED





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