[www-issues] [Issue 67403] users@de.openoffice.org ha s intolerable delay

2006-09-19 Thread st
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Sep 19 14:03:21 -0700 
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I guess you don't mind, if we file a separate issue proposing an enhancement
Reuse SMTP connections.

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[www-issues] [Issue 67403] users@de.openoffice.org ha s intolerable delay

2006-09-11 Thread jobin
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What|Old value |New value

  Status|STARTED   |RESOLVED

  Resolution|  |FIXED





--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Sep 10 23:57:47 -0700 
2006 ---
St, 
   The options you have provided are valid ones however the current MTA set up
doesnt allow this facility . Reusing SMTP connections, meaning sending multiple
messages per one SMTP session is not possible using our current MTA  to delivery
mail.  Since it delivers one message per one SMTP session. Limiting number of
outgoing SMTP connections will also cause delay in mail delivery as well.

However the good news is the New MTA in DS does allow us the facility which you
have mentioned by making use connection caching by which we can deliver
multiple messages over the same SMTP connection.

I am going to close this issue since the original request by the user would be
taken care internally by Stefan . 

-Jobin.

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[www-issues] [Issue 67403] users@de.openoffice.org ha s intolerable delay

2006-09-11 Thread jobin
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   Status whiteboard|PCN 48988 |PCN 48988,CNSC-015830





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[www-issues] [Issue 67403] users@de.openoffice.org ha s intolerable delay

2006-09-06 Thread jobin
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Sep  6 02:41:50 -0700 
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Your feedback has been forwarded to the engineers via the internal issue . Would
get back to you soon with their response .

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[www-issues] [Issue 67403] users@de.openoffice.org ha s intolerable delay

2006-08-30 Thread st
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Aug 30 03:47:17 -0700 
2006 ---
I will contact T-Online to raise the limit. I'll update this issue about the 
result.
However imposing a limit on concurrent sessions is quite common and it's not
feasible to contact providers we face problems with.
May I ask to avoid the problems with delivery delays by reusing SMTP connections
and limiting the number of outgoing SMTP connections.


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[www-issues] [Issue 67403] users@de.openoffice.org ha s intolerable delay

2006-08-10 Thread louis
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 Assigned to|support   |st

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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Aug 10 09:02:17 -0700 
2006 ---
reassigning to ST.
ST, I can speak to T-Online, if you like.



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[www-issues] [Issue 67403] users@de.openoffice.org ha s intolerable delay

2006-08-07 Thread jobin
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  CC|'rainerbielefeld,st,volker|'louis,rainerbielefeld,st,
|me'   |volkerme'

   Status whiteboard|  |PCN 48988





--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Aug  7 03:46:11 -0700 
2006 ---
Regina , 

   I understand your position however lets give a shot on St/Louis or any of
community leaders talking to the provider t-online directly for resolving this
issue.

In case if St/Louis are unable to resolve the issue then we can see whether we
could step in and talk to the provider.

-jobin.

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[www-issues] [Issue 67403] users@de.openoffice.org ha s intolerable delay

2006-08-05 Thread regina
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Aug  5 03:50:07 -0700 
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I doubt, that this would work. It is a pure technical problem. As I wrote,
T-online support told me, that your administrator should communicate with
T-online administrator. You need not to speak German, the responsible T-online
person is surely able to communicate in English.

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[www-issues] [Issue 67403] users@de.openoffice.org ha s intolerable delay

2006-08-03 Thread jobin
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Aug  3 21:14:23 -0700 
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Regina , 

   We feel that its would be better if Stefan or one of the OO.O community
People/Leaders speak to t-online.  Also we would have a problem with 
communication 
since we don't speak German.

St : Hope this is ok with you .

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[www-issues] [Issue 67403] users@de.openoffice.org ha s intolerable delay

2006-07-27 Thread jobin
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Jul 27 03:12:15 -0700 
2006 ---
From the little i could understand and rough translation of what ever was given
in the mail i have updated the same in this issue please forgive me if i have
completely change the meaning of the sentences . i have forward the request to
our engineers . 

Translation of the mail sent to t-online support :

I correctly understood (English) the text, look it in such a way,  the 
T-Online actually the Mails of OpenOffice.org do not assume.because there
is too many connections. Now OpenOffice.org is the  one of the  largest open
SOURCE of projects and the May run coming insbesondere, even if municipalities
will transfer to OpenOffice.org, will become more sicher not smaller. Is there
a possibility that T-Online dort other volumes permits? 

JFTR: It does not concern here “volumes”. T-Online furnished so-called of
session limit on its servers. If the possible number of “open connections”
(sessions) is reached to our servers, further sessions are rejected. Yes, the
number of sessions is sufficient in all rule.This problem arises usually
only if a sender for *jede* *einzelne* email liked to make a new connection. We,
the responsible persons of the internal newsgroup consider and see this
suboptimal this as a reason for the error messages.Besides would have beside
the error message in the Logs, quoted by you, also still time near (!) reacting
partner with T-Online to read its, to itself the postmaster (!) the “blocked”
server to turn can, if he regards an increase of the session limit as 
necessary. 

Diese delays obstruct the work however enormously, if one carries out in
Mailinglisten support, and there are Provider with those her does not
vorkommen. 

That this does not occur with other offerers, we keep for relatively simply
explainable: Either these offerers use no session limit for the protection of
your customers from Spam or however these offerers have less customer, who gets
from there enamels sent. 

Connected_to_194.25.134.75_but_greeting_failed./R
emote_host_said:_421_IP:204.16.104.2_-_Maximum_parallel_connections_for_your_IP-
Address_reached/
...

Evenly after this error message would have to be evident in the log of the
partners with T-Online.  We are afraid that we, the responsible persons of the
internal newsgroup of  T-Online in this affair little to align know. Us only
the reference remains that the postmaster of the dispatching server turns to the
address [EMAIL PROTECTED] specified in the log with high probability and seeks
there an increase that of session limit for its (n) servers.Naturally the
possibility would remain alternative the fact that the postmaster for each a new
session “do not open email” leaves but in-supplies the Mails at customers of
T-Online over only one session.JFTR: If *Sie* to the address mentioned
should turn, might be a little helpful this. There one becomes in this affair 
exclusively with the postmaster of the server concerned to communicate want. 

assume that this is the same case on the 20th also . So, there are many 
SMTP servers for t-online.de and web.de domains.  And looks like they 
were refusing our connections because there were too many connections 
from openoffice.org.

Regarding T-Online: Session limit for everyone ours mailins are separately
regarded. Thus must have thus been achieved the limit for *jeden* our MXe.
Differently said: There is one *Menge* open sessions, before the session
CONTROLLER “slams shut” .

The problem was NOT with Spam Filter we are using or with OpenOffice.

 In principle: Yes. However…; -) 

The problem is with t-online.de and web.de SMTP servers that put limit 
on how many SMTP connections they allow from openoffice.org.

For T-Online: This is correct. Thus the postmaster should contact either the
partner specified above to let increase by the limit or not open however for
each email a new session. We pass this on gladly internally, assume however an
establishment of contact postmaster of openoffice.org also  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
is essential, in order to reach an increase of the limit. 

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[www-issues] [Issue 67403] users@de.openoffice.org ha s intolerable delay

2006-07-26 Thread regina
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Jul 26 03:22:52 -0700 
2006 ---
Thanks for your explaination. I have forwarded it to a t-online
support-newsgroup. I will attach the answer. But it is German and so I try to
describe their advice. But I am not sure, whether it is correct in the technical
descriptions.

t-online uses session limits.

There is perhaps a solution:

If you are using a session for each email (t-online support guess it), than you
should chance this and use one session for more emails.

You should ask the t-online postmaster for increasing the session limit for
OpenOffice.org. If I understand t-online support correct, you should do this
immediately when the problem occurs. You find the address in the logs you have
cited. t-online support guesses, it will be [EMAIL PROTECTED] The t-online
postmaster will not react, if I - as customer -  will ask for that, but will
only react, if your postmaster contacts him.

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[www-issues] [Issue 67403] users@de.openoffice.org ha s intolerable delay

2006-07-26 Thread regina
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 Attachment data|  |Created an attachment (id=
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cited answer from t
|  |-online support newsgroup






--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Jul 26 03:24:18 -0700 
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Created an attachment (id=38037)
cited answer from t-online support newsgroup


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[www-issues] [Issue 67403] users@de.openoffice.org ha s intolerable delay

2006-07-25 Thread jobin
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Jul 25 05:12:12 -0700 
2006 ---
Regina , 

   I can answer to the delay that you were facing on the 13th and the 15th . Let
me paste an sample entry from the mail log entry to explain this mail delay 

Jul 13 10:27:31 s002.sjc.collab.net qmail: [ID 748625 mail.info] 1152811651.1561
75 delivery 2564693: deferral: Connected_to_194.25.134.75_but_greeting_failed./R
emote_host_said:_421_IP:204.16.104.2_-_Maximum_parallel_connections_for_your_IP-
Address_reached/
...
Jul 13 10:27:31 s002.sjc.collab.net qmail: [ID 748625 mail.info] 1152811651.1582
00 delivery 2564692: deferral: Connected_to_217.72.192.149_but_greeting_failed./
Remote_host_said:_421_mx30.web.de:_Too_many_concurrent_SMTP_connections_from_one
_IP_address;_please_try_again_later./

So if you have a look at the log information you would notice that the Too_many_
concurrent_SMTP_connection . And according to the engineers this has been notice
d across the mail log on the dates mentioned and i assume that this is the same
case on the 20th also . So, there are many SMTP servers for t-online.de and
web.de domains.  And looks like they were refusing our connections because there
were too many connections from openoffice.org.

The problem was NOT with Spam Filter we are using or with OpenOffice.  The
problem is with t-online.de and web.de SMTP servers that put limit on how many
SMTP connections they allow from openoffice.org.

Hope this answers the question on why there is a mail delay .

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[www-issues] [Issue 67403] users@de.openoffice.org ha s intolerable delay

2006-07-20 Thread rainerbielefeld
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Jul 19 23:08:46 -0700 
2006 ---
But I received the mail for Additional comments from rainerbielefeld Wed Jul 19
22:54:42 -0700 2006 immediately.

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[www-issues] [Issue 67403] users@de.openoffice.org ha s intolerable delay

2006-07-20 Thread jobin
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Jul 20 06:27:26 -0700 
2006 ---
We had done check with our mail server and we did not notice any delay in the
mails Currently . The mail queue is very normal . I also had sent out a test
mail and updated the issue 67613 for which the mails was immediately received .
Please confirm if the users are still experiencing mail delays .

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[www-issues] [Issue 67403] users@de.openoffice.org ha s intolerable delay

2006-07-20 Thread regina
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Jul 20 07:28:39 -0700 
2006 ---
The users is still too slow.
Here two datas from today. I can sent whole header if you need it.

Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] delay 49min:
Received: from openoffice.org ([204.16.104.2]) by mailin16.sul.t-online.de
with smtp id 1G3ZAM-1hhebo0; Thu, 20 Jul 2006 16:06:14 +0200
Received: (qmail 21663 invoked by uid 5000); 20 Jul 2006 13:17:06 -

Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] delay 47min:
Received: from openoffice.org ([204.16.104.2]) by mailin22.sul.t-online.de
with smtp id 1G3Utu-0QWwYy0; Thu, 20 Jul 2006 11:32:58 +0200
Received: (qmail 15169 invoked by uid 5000); 20 Jul 2006 08:45:40 -


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[www-issues] [Issue 67403] users@de.openoffice.org ha s intolerable delay

2006-07-19 Thread rainerbielefeld
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Jul 19 22:54:42 -0700 
2006 ---
All that mail service seems to be still unreliable, for example. pls see
comments in Issue 67561:

I wrote my comment app. 15:30 UTC
  as expected I got a mail with my comment
  OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Jul 2006 15:45:52.0654 (UTC) 
ILETIME=[6A5542E0:01C6AB4A]

2 hours later 'nmailhot' wrote a reply
  but I am still (20 Jul 2006 06:00 UTC) waiting for mail.

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[www-issues] [Issue 67403] users@de.openoffice.org ha s intolerable delay

2006-07-18 Thread st
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  Ever confirmed|  |1

  Status|UNCONFIRMED   |NEW





--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Jul 18 04:02:34 -0700 
2006 ---
It seems OOo has been in the spamcop blacklist. This has been reported in issue
67362 also. This is no longer the case. But I don't think there is a relation
between these two events.



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[www-issues] [Issue 67403] users@de.openoffice.org ha s intolerable delay

2006-07-17 Thread st
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User st changed the following:

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  CC|'rainerbielefeld,volkerme'|'rainerbielefeld,st,volker
|  |me'





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[www-issues] [Issue 67403] users@de.openoffice.org ha s intolerable delay

2006-07-17 Thread rainerbielefeld
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Jul 17 22:05:05 -0700 
2006 ---
Today I've got a bounce listing:

-- Original Message 

Hi! This is the ezmlm program. I'm managing the users@de.openoffice.org mailing
list. [...] 
Here are the message numbers:

   53642
   53643
   53664
   53661
   53665
   53660
   53666
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--- Enclosed is a copy of the bounce message I received.

[...]

Remote host said: 550 5.7.1 204.16.104.2 has been blocked by spamcop
Giving up on 62.156.147.75.

-- Original Message 

Might have to to with this problem?

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[www-issues] [Issue 67403] users@de.openoffice.org ha s intolerable delay

2006-07-16 Thread louis
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What|Old value |New value

 Assigned to|[EMAIL PROTECTED]|support





--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Jul 16 15:00:27 -0700 
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assigning to support.

My guess is that until there is a specific event that can be traced, a solution 
will be difficult.  However, I 
think support should monitor this and see if they can usefully intervene.

Thanks
louis

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[www-issues] [Issue 67403] users@de.openoffice.org ha s intolerable delay

2006-07-16 Thread karthiksp
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Taking up the issue..

Regards,
Karthik
Support Operations

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[www-issues] [Issue 67403] users@de.openoffice.org ha s intolerable delay

2006-07-15 Thread regina
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 Issue #|67403
 Summary|users@de.openoffice.org has intolerable delay
   Component|www
 Version|current
Platform|PC
 URL|
  OS/Version|Windows XP
  Status|UNCONFIRMED
   Status whiteboard|
Keywords|
  Resolution|
  Issue type|DEFECT
Priority|P3
Subcomponent|openoffice.org mailing lists
 Assigned to|[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reported by|regina





--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Jul 15 09:17:37 -0700 
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The mailinglist users@de.openoffice.org has annoying delays, so that you cannot
work good with it. You get answers, but you have not received the question. You
get your own answer back with a delay of a half to -as some told- many hours.
Not everytime and not for all persons. Inspecially persons with account by
t-online.de and web.de are affected. I'll attache a mail, so that you see, that
the delay is by openoffice.org and not by t-online. T-online give me the advise
to ask for a log from t.online. Please have a look, what it wrong with the
mailing-list.

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[www-issues] [Issue 67403] users@de.openoffice.org ha s intolerable delay

2006-07-15 Thread regina
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 Attachment data|  |Created an attachment (id=
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two example mails






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Created an attachment (id=37785)
two example mails


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[www-issues] [Issue 67403] users@de.openoffice.org ha s intolerable delay

2006-07-15 Thread rainerbielefeld
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  CC|''|'rainerbielefeld'

Keywords|  |oooqa





--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Jul 15 09:54:36 -0700 
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Currently it seems to work, but I also notice that sometimes mail comes with
serious delay.

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[www-issues] [Issue 67403] users@de.openoffice.org ha s intolerable delay

2006-07-15 Thread volkerme
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  CC|'rainerbielefeld' |'rainerbielefeld,volkerme'





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