[Alsa-devel] What is the current status of the alsa sound server (signal polling)?
Hi all! A while ago I was inquiring about the current status of the .asoundrc documentation, as well as the feasibility of creating "mock" devices that would allow polling of the audio i/o resources of the soundcard whose driver's limitations and/or hardware limitations currently do not support hardware polling. I am just wondering if anyone had any luck in figuring out how to do that using .asoundrc and whether that is even possible at this point. Also, what is the current status of gstreamer in this department and jack? (I tried artsd and that one simply doesn't cut it) Any info on this issue would be utmostly appreciated! Ico ___ Alsa-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-devel
RE: [linux-audio-dev] Re: [Alsa-devel] ALSA homepage redesign
Here's what you get for leaving off the smiley -- until such time as software has fewer bugs than the hardware, the following is a cheap shot. -BobC if that's the stable release, people should be using kernel 1.2 on an 8086 (as everyone knows, that's the stable release of the pentium). ___ Alsa-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-devel
[Alsa-devel] Re: [linux-audio-dev] ALSA homepage redesign
On Wed, 2002-04-17 at 23:00, Patrick Shirkey wrote: > I have now migrated the new ALSA homepage. It was redesigned to be more user >friendly. > > http://www.alsa-project.org > Looking good, and its nice to know someone is working on it. I noticed that the documentation doesn't have the Doxygen generated API reference for ALSA lib though. In fact I can no longer find it on the web site. I like many of the other suggestions about taking down the older docs to lesson the confusion factor as well. > I will now add new links to the native applications page. > > So far I have: > > jack > Ardour > TiMidity > Glame > PD > Rosengarden > MusE > > > Are these correct and are there any others? > If you are counting ALSA sequencer support than the Smurf Sound Font Editor could be added. Perhaps there should be a designation of what kind of support the program provides (sequencer and/or PCM), maybe.. iiwusynth could also be added. Cheers! Josh Green ___ Alsa-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-devel
Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: [Alsa-devel] ALSA homepage redesign
Fred Gleason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Is it perhaps time for an alsa-0.9.rc1 many people will be > > frightened off by the beta designation, and certainly mislead into > > thinking that 0.5 is the "safer" option. > > My understanding is that SuSE 8.0 is shipping with 0.9.0beta12. That's > starting to sound pretty stable to me. in mandrake, we've just switched to 0.9.x too (a couple of weeks ago). libalsa, arts, alsaplayer, mplayer, xine, have been recompiled for 0.9.x there's still, libsdl, wine, ... to be ported to 0.9.x -- "il a ete brule au 28e degre" (the naheulbeuk witch) "c curieux, gcc fonctionne" (gwenole) ___ Alsa-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-devel
Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: [Alsa-devel] ALSA homepage redesign
Joern Nettingsmeier wrote: >James Courtier-Dutton wrote: > > ><...> > > >>I think we should have a section on the web site for the different >>applications which support different alsa versions. >> >> >> > >N. could we please please please annihilate every last little >trace of alsa 0.5.x from that page ? >if that's the stable release, people should be using kernel 1.2 on >an 8086 (as everyone knows, that's the stable release of the >pentium). > >if it has to be, add a very small link to *OBSOLETE* releases and >apps that use them, but please not on the front page. i don't know >how often i have told newbies who had just freshly installed >"stable" to ditch it and start over with 0.9... > >i don't see why jaroslav has sticked to this stable/unstable naming >scheme so long, but probably he had too many other things to do. >patrick, please fix this asap. > >set_rant_mode(off); > >really like the new site. good to see it maintained, and the three >main links for different interest groups are an excellent idea. > >jrn > > > I agree with you. The web site currently only mentions applications compatible with alsa 0.5.x There is no mention of 0.9.x at all in the applications section. If alsa follows ISO9000 release numbering guidelines, the full, non beta release should be called 0.10.x Apparently you should not have beta 0.9.x and then go to full release 0.9.x, apparently one should go to 0.10.x for the first non-beta release, and then only have bug fixes updating 0.10.x. Maybe that is why the linux kernel follows this pattern. Developement 2.3.x, release 2.4.x, development 2.5.x, release 2.6.x Cheers James ___ Alsa-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-devel
Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: [Alsa-devel] ALSA homepage redesign
On Thu, 18 Apr 2002, James Tappin wrote: > Is it perhaps time for an alsa-0.9.rc1 many people will be frightened off > by the beta designation, and certainly mislead into thinking that 0.5 is > the "safer" option. My understanding is that SuSE 8.0 is shipping with 0.9.0beta12. That's starting to sound pretty stable to me. Cheers! |-| |Frederick F. Gleason, Jr.|WAVA Radio - 105 FM |Voice: 1-(703)-807-2266 | | Director of Engineering |1901 N. Moore Street| FAX: 1-(703)-807-2245 | | |Arlington, VA 22209 | Web: HTTP://www.wava.com| |-| | It must be remembered that there is nothing more difficult to plan, | | more doubtful of success, nor more dangerous to manage, than the| | creation of a new system. For the initiator has the enmity of all who | | would profit by the preservation of the old institutions and merely | | lukewarm defenders in those who would gain by the new ones. | |-- Niccolo Machiavelli | |-| ___ Alsa-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-devel
Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: [Alsa-devel] ALSA homepage redesign
On Thursday 18 April 2002 18:27, Fred Gleason wrote: > On Thu, 18 Apr 2002, Joern Nettingsmeier wrote: > > N. could we please please please annihilate every last little > > trace of alsa 0.5.x from that page ? > > I'd like to add my vote for this here too. The whole 0.5.x vs. 0.9.x > thing is *hugely* confusing -- to me, to programmers, and to end users. > If 0.9.x is the stable API (it *is*, isn't it??), then let's all get > behind it and PUSH. In the same vein, let's get the docs for the > ancient 0.2.0 stuff off the site too. They just muddy the waters at > this point. Is it perhaps time for an alsa-0.9.rc1 many people will be frightened off by the beta designation, and certainly mislead into thinking that 0.5 is the "safer" option. Just a thought anyway. James -- James Tappin, O__ "I forget the punishment for using [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- \/`Microsoft --- Something lingering http://www.xena.uklinux.net/ with data loss in it I fancy" ___ Alsa-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-devel
Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: [Alsa-devel] ALSA homepage redesign
On Thu, 18 Apr 2002, Joern Nettingsmeier wrote: > N. could we please please please annihilate every last little > trace of alsa 0.5.x from that page ? I'd like to add my vote for this here too. The whole 0.5.x vs. 0.9.x thing is *hugely* confusing -- to me, to programmers, and to end users. If 0.9.x is the stable API (it *is*, isn't it??), then let's all get behind it and PUSH. In the same vein, let's get the docs for the ancient 0.2.0 stuff off the site too. They just muddy the waters at this point. Cheers! |-| |Frederick F. Gleason, Jr.|WAVA Radio - 105 FM |Voice: 1-(703)-807-2266 | | Director of Engineering |1901 N. Moore Street| FAX: 1-(703)-807-2245 | | |Arlington, VA 22209 | Web: HTTP://www.wava.com| |-| | WASHINGTON DC: Fifty square miles almost completely surrounded by | | reality.| |-| ___ Alsa-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-devel
Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: [Alsa-devel] ALSA homepage redesign
On Thu, 18 Apr 2002 18:18:51 +0200 Joern Nettingsmeier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > James Courtier-Dutton wrote: > > > <...> > > I think we should have a section on the web site for the different > > applications which support different alsa versions. > > > > N. could we please please please annihilate every last little > trace of alsa 0.5.x from that page ? > if that's the stable release, people should be using kernel 1.2 on > an 8086 (as everyone knows, that's the stable release of the > pentium). > > if it has to be, add a very small link to *OBSOLETE* releases and > apps that use them, but please not on the front page. i don't know > how often i have told newbies who had just freshly installed > "stable" to ditch it and start over with 0.9... > > i don't see why jaroslav has sticked to this stable/unstable naming > scheme so long, but probably he had too many other things to do. > patrick, please fix this asap. > > set_rant_mode(off); > > really like the new site. good to see it maintained, and the three > main links for different interest groups are an excellent idea. > > jörn > > I second the motion, alsa 0.5.x not only is way more unstable than 0.9.x in all the cards i've tried it with (and specially sblive) but more incompatible. I think "obsolete" will fit perfect for it. Juan Linietsky ___ Alsa-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-devel
Re: [Alsa-devel] ALSA homepage redesign
nice, mplayer has also alsa9 and alsa5 plugins. On Wed, 17 Apr 2002, Patrick Shirkey wrote: > I have now migrated the new ALSA homepage. It was redesigned to be more user >friendly. > > http://www.alsa-project.org > > I will now add new links to the native applications page. > > So far I have: > > jack > Ardour > TiMidity > Glame > PD > Rosengarden > MusE > > > Are these correct and are there any others? > > -- > Patrick Shirkey - Boost Hardware Ltd > For the discerning hardware connoisseur > Http://www.boosthardware.com > Http://www.boosthardware.com/LAU/Linux_Audio_Users_Guide/ > > _ > Want a new web-based email account ? ---> http://www.firstlinux.net > > _ > Run a small business? Then you need professional email like [EMAIL PROTECTED] from >Everyone.net http://www.everyone.net?tag > > ___ > Alsa-devel mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-devel > ___ Alsa-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-devel
Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: [Alsa-devel] ALSA homepage redesign
James Courtier-Dutton wrote: > <...> > I think we should have a section on the web site for the different > applications which support different alsa versions. > N. could we please please please annihilate every last little trace of alsa 0.5.x from that page ? if that's the stable release, people should be using kernel 1.2 on an 8086 (as everyone knows, that's the stable release of the pentium). if it has to be, add a very small link to *OBSOLETE* releases and apps that use them, but please not on the front page. i don't know how often i have told newbies who had just freshly installed "stable" to ditch it and start over with 0.9... i don't see why jaroslav has sticked to this stable/unstable naming scheme so long, but probably he had too many other things to do. patrick, please fix this asap. set_rant_mode(off); really like the new site. good to see it maintained, and the three main links for different interest groups are an excellent idea. jörn -- Watch out where the huskies go and don't you eat the yellow snow ! - Frank Zappa ___ Alsa-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-devel
Re: [Alsa-devel] ALSA homepage redesign
Eric Dantan Rzewnicki wrote: >Hi Patrick, > >Thanks for doing this. > >The new page doesn't say anything about using the 0.9.x version rather >than 0.5.x. Is it possible to have the main page make it clear that >0.9.0beta12 is the version new users and developers should start with? > >-Eric Rz. > >Patrick Shirkey wrote: > > >>I have now migrated the new ALSA homepage. It was redesigned to be more user >friendly. >> >>http://www.alsa-project.org >> >>I will now add new links to the native applications page. >> >>So far I have: >> >>jack >>Ardour >>TiMidity >>Glame >>PD >>Rosengarden >>MusE >> >>Are these correct and are there any others? >> >>-- >> >> Currently, xine (http://xine.sf.net) supports the 0.9.x alsa interface but not the 0.5.x interface. I think we should have a section on the web site for the different applications which support different alsa versions. Cheers James ___ Alsa-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-devel
Re: [Alsa-devel] ALSA homepage redesign
Hi Patrick, Thanks for doing this. The new page doesn't say anything about using the 0.9.x version rather than 0.5.x. Is it possible to have the main page make it clear that 0.9.0beta12 is the version new users and developers should start with? -Eric Rz. Patrick Shirkey wrote: > > I have now migrated the new ALSA homepage. It was redesigned to be more user >friendly. > > http://www.alsa-project.org > > I will now add new links to the native applications page. > > So far I have: > > jack > Ardour > TiMidity > Glame > PD > Rosengarden > MusE > > Are these correct and are there any others? > > -- ___ Alsa-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-devel
Re: [Alsa-devel] ALSA homepage redesign
On Wed, 17 Apr 2002, Patrick Shirkey wrote: > I have now migrated the new ALSA homepage. It was redesigned to be more user >friendly. Excellent! > I will now add new links to the native applications page. [...] > Are these correct and are there any others? GStreamer has an alsa 0.9 plugin, fwiw. regards, wingo. ___ Alsa-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-devel
Re: [Alsa-devel] ALSA homepage redesign
Hello Patrick, Looks very nice. Am I correctly assuming that you will be the maintainer of the ALSA pages from now on? Could you add the following alsa 0.9 applications I wrote: http://www.iua.upf.es/~mdeboer/projects/tapiir/ http://www.iua.upf.es/~mdeboer/projects/aconnectgui/ http://www.iua.upf.es/~mdeboer/projects/alsamixergui/ Thanks, Maarten ___ Alsa-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-devel
