Re: [Alsa-user] cs46xx plays fine, but arecord records silence

2006-01-18 Thread Gary Lawrence Murphy
 D == Duncan Sands [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 My aadebug data is appended at the end; this is Redhat FC3
 using Linux 2.6.9-1.667 with alsa-driver 1.0.6 and alsamixer
 reports the chipset as Cirrus Logic CS4297 rev 3 -- this is
 on an HP Vectra PC.

D On my card, I have to turn on capture for the ADC as well.

This works, but I have a further question on the structure of ALSA
with this chipset:

I have the Line-in, Capture and ADC channels set to a level of 92
and with this setting the _monitor_ level on Line-in is comfortable
and matches the playback level of the average MP3 file, but the
playback level of the WAV file recorded with those settings is 
a great deal louder (and clipped).

Reasoning that ADC-level may not be a percent but a hard-value, I
reduced this to 30, and I /think/ it improved the situation, but the
playback level on my recorded files is still very much louder than the
playback level of the source line-in while making that recording.

is ADC the right way to attenuate the recorded sample volume without
changing the monitor volume?  What would be reasonable settings to get
a WAV file that on playback matches the volume heard while it was
recorded?

-- 
Gary Lawrence Murphy garym at linux.ca
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Re: [Alsa-user] what is emu10k1_gp

2006-01-18 Thread Nigel Henry
On Tuesday 17 January 2006 22:33, Lee Revell wrote:
 On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 22:16 +0100, Nigel Henry wrote:
  Hi Lee. If this was loaded, would it have any adverse affects on
  playing midi files with Kmid, aplaymidi. Also is there any info for
  this module,as I've never seen it before.

 I think I have an idea what might be causing the silent SBLive!
 wavetable synth bug.  See alsa-devel for more info.

 Lee

Hi Lee. I had a look at the alsa-devel archives, but couldn't find anything. 
Any direct links, tips? I'd also looked at the info for the Audigy live, and 
saw there were some problems with midi, but these appeared to be quite old 
postings, and more to do with stuttering than total silence. Nigel.


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Re: [Alsa-user] what is emu10k1_gp

2006-01-18 Thread Lee Revell
On Wed, 2006-01-18 at 21:04 +0100, Nigel Henry wrote:
 On Tuesday 17 January 2006 22:33, Lee Revell wrote:
  On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 22:16 +0100, Nigel Henry wrote:
   Hi Lee. If this was loaded, would it have any adverse affects on
   playing midi files with Kmid, aplaymidi. Also is there any info for
   this module,as I've never seen it before.
 
  I think I have an idea what might be causing the silent SBLive!
  wavetable synth bug.  See alsa-devel for more info.
 
  Lee
 
 Hi Lee. I had a look at the alsa-devel archives, but couldn't find anything. 
 Any direct links, tips? I'd also looked at the info for the Audigy live, and 
 saw there were some problems with midi, but these appeared to be quite old 
 postings, and more to do with stuttering than total silence. Nigel.
 

Try a known good ALSA version like 1.0.9, the patch in question was
added in September 2005.

Lee



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[Alsa-user] Impossible to configure Intel HDA

2006-01-18 Thread Mauro Sacchetto
I use Slackware 10.2. With kernel 2.6.14.6 and 2.5I'm not more able to configure my audio card,Intel HDA based on RealTeckALC882,nor with the latest official release of alsa,nor with the actual rc version. Alsaconf finds
the card, mut alsamixer doesn't work and tells:/usr/sbin/alsactl: set_control:873: failed to obtain info for control

#1 (Invalid argument)The same if I put its support in kernel.Morevoer, KDE tells me that it's impossibileto find /dev/dsp, even if it exists!Any suggestion?Thax!M.



[Alsa-user] I would like to know how to configure a usb mic to work in ALSA

2006-01-18 Thread Christopher Van Huss
Most of the answers to my problem I get jinvolve changing the driver. So what happens is that alsa tries to assign both output and input to my USB MIC and then the sound server crashes because the USB MIC has no output only input. What I would like to know is how in ALSA do you split input and output to different devices. I would like my AK5370 logitech mic to be the input or capture device and the sound card to be the output device. I need it done in a way that tells alsa to ignore output to the usb mic so it doesn't crash the sound server by trying to make my usb mic an output source. My mic is detected by linux and is listed under ALSA devices. I just don't know how to get the mike to work. If you need any additional info just let me know and I can send it too you.



Re: [Alsa-user] Impossible to configure Intel HDA

2006-01-18 Thread Lee Revell
On Thu, 2006-01-19 at 00:32 +0100, Mauro Sacchetto wrote:
 I use Slackware 10.2. With kernel 2.6.14.6 and 2.5
 I'm not more able to configure my audio card,
 Intel HDA based on RealTeckALC882,
 nor with the latest official release of alsa,
 nor with the actual rc version. Alsaconf finds 
 the card, mut alsamixer doesn't work and tells:
 /usr/sbin/alsactl: set_control:873: failed to obtain info for
 control 
 #1 (Invalid argument)
 The same if I put its support in kernel.
 Morevoer, KDE tells me that it's impossibile
 to find /dev/dsp, even if it exists!
 Any suggestion?

Did it ever work, with a previous version?

Lee



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[Alsa-user] Compilng Under Fedora Core 4

2006-01-18 Thread Martin McWhorter
I am trying to compile the latest Alsa drivers on Fedora Core 4 in
hoping it will solve my problem with muting the internal speakers when
using my headphones with the Intel HDA chipset.

The problem with compiling is that the 'make' created .o object files
instead of .ko files. This breaks the 'make install' as it cant stat
any of the .ko files.

Any ideas?


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[Alsa-user] using dmix causes silent output with snd-cs46xx (1.0.10rc1)

2006-01-18 Thread Joel Bison
Hi, all--

I'm having some interesting trouble getting dmix to work properly with
snd-cs46xx, using the 1.0.10rc1 bundled with 2.6.14.3 kernel.  If I
run two instances of alsaplayer -o alsa -d plug:dmix file.mp3, they
both appear to run properly (e.g., time and progress meters increase),
but no sound is produced.  Using dmix via asound.conf behaves
similarly.  Alsaplayer plays fine when allowed to have exclusive
access to the sound device (i.e., with no -d plug:dmix), but a
second such instance blocks until the first exits.

A subquestion here is: why is concurrency not working automatically,
without -d plug:dmix?  I read that my = 1.0.9rc2 ALSA defaults to
using dmix for non-hardware-mixing soundcards, which includes my
CS4624-based Cirrus Logic soundcard (as per the soundcard matrix).  Is
that maybe the real problem, with the explicit dmix just confusing
things?

Anyway, here're my kernel-config *_SND_* entries (complete config at
http://kofight.com/config-2.6.14.3):

CONFIG_SND=m
CONFIG_SND_TIMER=m
CONFIG_SND_PCM=m
CONFIG_SND_HWDEP=m
CONFIG_SND_RAWMIDI=m
CONFIG_SND_SEQUENCER=m
CONFIG_SND_SEQ_DUMMY=m
CONFIG_SND_OSSEMUL=y
CONFIG_SND_MIXER_OSS=m
CONFIG_SND_PCM_OSS=m
CONFIG_SND_SEQUENCER_OSS=y
CONFIG_SND_GENERIC_DRIVER=y
CONFIG_SND_DUMMY=m
CONFIG_SND_VIRMIDI=m
CONFIG_SND_AC97_CODEC=m
CONFIG_SND_AC97_BUS=m
CONFIG_SND_CS46XX=m
CONFIG_SND_CS46XX_NEW_DSP=y
CONFIG_SND_USB_AUDIO=m

... and stuff from /proc/asound:

bash-3.00$ cat modules
0 snd_cs46xx
bash-3.00$ cat cards
0 [CS46xx ]: CS46xx - Sound Fusion CS46xx
 Sound Fusion CS46xx at 0x5010/0x5000, irq 11
bash-3.00$ cat devices
  8: [0- 0]: raw midi
 16: [0- 0]: digital audio playback
 24: [0- 0]: digital audio capture
  0: [0- 0]: ctl
 33:   : timer
bash-3.00$ cat ./card0/pcm0p/info
card: 0
device: 0
subdevice: 0
stream: PLAYBACK
id: CS46xx
name: CS46xx
subname: subdevice #0
class: 0
subclass: 0
subdevices_count: 1
subdevices_avail: 1
bash-3.00$

Oh, and an asound.conf (adapted from the Dmix wiki entry) is at
http://kofight.com/asound.conf.

Thanks in advance for any assistance.  Please let me know if any
further information, tests, etc. would be useful.

Joel


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[Alsa-user] Problem about emu10k1x datasheet

2006-01-18 Thread Kun Niu
Dear all,


I've got a sound card SB! Live 5.1 Dell OEM.
It worked well on my ubuntu, gentoo,sarge.
But I can't find a driver for my card on FreeBSD 6.0 release.
And I'll have try to write one by myself.
But I can't find any datasheet for my card.
Can anyone give some hints how to get one?

Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.

Sincerely,Kun


Re: [Alsa-user] Impossible to configure Intel HDA

2006-01-18 Thread Lee Revell
(please use reply-to-all)

On Thu, 2006-01-19 at 06:04 +0100, Mauro Sacchetto wrote:
 Alle 00:49, giovedì 19 gennaio 2006, hai scritto:
   I use Slackware 10.2. With kernel 2.6.14.6 and 2.5
   I'm not more able to configure my audio card,
   Intel HDA based on RealTeckALC882,
   nor with the latest official release of alsa,
   nor with the actual rc version. Alsaconf finds
   the card, mut alsamixer doesn't work and tells:
   /usr/sbin/alsactl: set_control:873: failed to obtain info for
   control
   #1 (Invalid argument)
 [cut]
 
  Did it ever work, with a previous version?
 Yes, always working. With Slackware 10.2 and previous kernels
 works all alsa versions. SO I wrote to kernel guys too...

OK.  Can you try the very latest alsa-lib, to make sure the issue is not
an incompatibility there?

If that does not work, can you do a binary search with ALSA CVS to
identify exactly when it broke?

Lee



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Re: [Alsa-user] Problem about emu10k1x datasheet

2006-01-18 Thread Lee Revell
On Thu, 2006-01-19 at 13:01 +0800, Kun Niu wrote:
 Dear all,
  
  
 I've got a sound card SB! Live 5.1 Dell OEM.
 It worked well on my ubuntu, gentoo,sarge.
 But I can't find a driver for my card on FreeBSD 6.0 release.
 And I'll have try to write one by myself.
 But I can't find any datasheet for my card.
 Can anyone give some hints how to get one?
  
 Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.
  

There is no datasheet, the Linux driver was reverse engineered.

Lee



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Re: [Alsa-user] Problem about emu10k1x datasheet

2006-01-18 Thread Lee Revell
On Thu, 2006-01-19 at 13:01 +0800, Kun Niu wrote:
 Dear all,
  
  
 I've got a sound card SB! Live 5.1 Dell OEM.
 It worked well on my ubuntu, gentoo,sarge.
 But I can't find a driver for my card on FreeBSD 6.0 release.
 And I'll have try to write one by myself.
 But I can't find any datasheet for my card.
 Can anyone give some hints how to get one?
  
 Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.
  

Your best bet is to contact the copyright owner of the Linux driver, and
ask their permission to write a BSD licensed driver based on it.

Lee



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Re: [Alsa-user] Problem about emu10k1x datasheet

2006-01-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 19 January 2006 00:16, Lee Revell wrote:
On Thu, 2006-01-19 at 13:01 +0800, Kun Niu wrote:
 Dear all,


 I've got a sound card SB! Live 5.1 Dell OEM.
 It worked well on my ubuntu, gentoo,sarge.
 But I can't find a driver for my card on FreeBSD 6.0 release.
 And I'll have try to write one by myself.
 But I can't find any datasheet for my card.
 Can anyone give some hints how to get one?

 Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.

There is no datasheet, the Linux driver was reverse engineered.

Humm, my memory says otherwise, Lee.  There was a time 4 years or so 
back up the log when emu10k1 was not part of the kernel tree.  If you 
had an SBLive (mine is a Value) then you went to a site creative had 
setup, downloaded the srcs and built it on the target machine.  And 
when it was merged, I had assumed that those srcs had been officially 
donated by creative.  From the top of emu10k1_main.c:
/*
 *  Copyright (c) by Jaroslav Kysela [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 *   Creative Labs, Inc.
 *  Routines for control of EMU10K1 chips
 *
 *  Copyright (c) by James Courtier-Dutton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 *  Added support for Audigy 2 Value.

So I believe that confirms my theory.

-- 
Cheers, Gene
People having trouble with vz bouncing email to me should add the word
'online' between the 'verizon', and the dot which bypasses vz's
stupid bounce rules.  I do use spamassassin too. :-)
Yahoo.com and AOL/TW attorneys please note, additions to the above
message by Gene Heskett are:
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Re: [Alsa-user] Problem about emu10k1x datasheet

2006-01-18 Thread Bill Unruh

On Thu, 19 Jan 2006, Lee Revell wrote:


On Thu, 2006-01-19 at 13:01 +0800, Kun Niu wrote:

Dear all,


I've got a sound card SB! Live 5.1 Dell OEM.
It worked well on my ubuntu, gentoo,sarge.
But I can't find a driver for my card on FreeBSD 6.0 release.
And I'll have try to write one by myself.
But I can't find any datasheet for my card.
Can anyone give some hints how to get one?

Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.



Your best bet is to contact the copyright owner of the Linux driver, and
ask their permission to write a BSD licensed driver based on it.


Isn't it GPL?
He can write one for himself-- he already has permission. He could include
it in a distro as well, but under GPL-- not sure if a module makes the
kernel into a derived work but I would doubt it.

Of course getting permission to make it a BSD license might be cleanest,
but I don't think is needed, is it?





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Re: [Alsa-user] Problem about emu10k1x datasheet

2006-01-18 Thread Lee Revell
On Thu, 2006-01-19 at 00:33 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
 On Thursday 19 January 2006 00:16, Lee Revell wrote:
 On Thu, 2006-01-19 at 13:01 +0800, Kun Niu wrote:
  Dear all,
 
 
  I've got a sound card SB! Live 5.1 Dell OEM.
  It worked well on my ubuntu, gentoo,sarge.
  But I can't find a driver for my card on FreeBSD 6.0 release.
  And I'll have try to write one by myself.
  But I can't find any datasheet for my card.
  Can anyone give some hints how to get one?
 
  Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.
 
 There is no datasheet, the Linux driver was reverse engineered.
 
 Humm, my memory says otherwise, Lee.  There was a time 4 years or so 
 back up the log when emu10k1 was not part of the kernel tree.  If you 
 had an SBLive (mine is a Value) then you went to a site creative had 
 setup, downloaded the srcs and built it on the target machine.  And 
 when it was merged, I had assumed that those srcs had been officially 
 donated by creative.  From the top of emu10k1_main.c:
 /*
  *  Copyright (c) by Jaroslav Kysela [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  *   Creative Labs, Inc.
  *  Routines for control of EMU10K1 chips
  *
  *  Copyright (c) by James Courtier-Dutton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  *  Added support for Audigy 2 Value.
 
 So I believe that confirms my theory.
 

The emu10k1x is not the emu10k1.

The former is only in Dell machines and the driver was reverse
engineered.  The latter driver is based on one that Creative
contributed.

Lee

Lee



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Re: [Alsa-user] Problem about emu10k1x datasheet

2006-01-18 Thread Lee Revell
On Wed, 2006-01-18 at 21:36 -0800, Bill Unruh wrote:
 On Thu, 19 Jan 2006, Lee Revell wrote:
 
  On Thu, 2006-01-19 at 13:01 +0800, Kun Niu wrote:
  Dear all,
 
 
  I've got a sound card SB! Live 5.1 Dell OEM.
  It worked well on my ubuntu, gentoo,sarge.
  But I can't find a driver for my card on FreeBSD 6.0 release.
  And I'll have try to write one by myself.
  But I can't find any datasheet for my card.
  Can anyone give some hints how to get one?
 
  Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.
 
 
  Your best bet is to contact the copyright owner of the Linux driver, and
  ask their permission to write a BSD licensed driver based on it.
 
 Isn't it GPL?
 He can write one for himself-- he already has permission. He could include
 it in a distro as well, but under GPL-- not sure if a module makes the
 kernel into a derived work but I would doubt it.
 
 Of course getting permission to make it a BSD license might be cleanest,
 but I don't think is needed, is it?
 

Yes, the GPL does not allow you to take a GPL driver and write a BSD
licensed driver based on it.

Lee





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Re: [Alsa-user] Problem about emu10k1x datasheet

2006-01-18 Thread Bill Unruh

On Thu, 19 Jan 2006, Lee Revell wrote:


On Wed, 2006-01-18 at 21:36 -0800, Bill Unruh wrote:

On Thu, 19 Jan 2006, Lee Revell wrote:


On Thu, 2006-01-19 at 13:01 +0800, Kun Niu wrote:

Dear all,


I've got a sound card SB! Live 5.1 Dell OEM.
It worked well on my ubuntu, gentoo,sarge.
But I can't find a driver for my card on FreeBSD 6.0 release.
And I'll have try to write one by myself.
But I can't find any datasheet for my card.
Can anyone give some hints how to get one?

Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.



Your best bet is to contact the copyright owner of the Linux driver, and
ask their permission to write a BSD licensed driver based on it.


Isn't it GPL?
He can write one for himself-- he already has permission. He could include
it in a distro as well, but under GPL-- not sure if a module makes the
kernel into a derived work but I would doubt it.

Of course getting permission to make it a BSD license might be cleanest,
but I don't think is needed, is it?



Yes, the GPL does not allow you to take a GPL driver and write a BSD
licensed driver based on it.


Agreed. But it does allow you to take a GPL driver and write a GPL licensed
driver based on it. Then the question is whether that GPL licensed driver
can be used withing FreeBSD-- ie if there is anything in the FreeBSD
license which makes use of a GPL driver contrary to the license. I do not
think that the GPL license would forbid its use in FreeBSD.




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Re: [Alsa-user] Problem about emu10k1x datasheet

2006-01-18 Thread Lee Revell
On Wed, 2006-01-18 at 21:48 -0800, Bill Unruh wrote:
 On Thu, 19 Jan 2006, Lee Revell wrote:
 
  On Wed, 2006-01-18 at 21:36 -0800, Bill Unruh wrote:
  On Thu, 19 Jan 2006, Lee Revell wrote:
 
  On Thu, 2006-01-19 at 13:01 +0800, Kun Niu wrote:
  Dear all,
 
 
  I've got a sound card SB! Live 5.1 Dell OEM.
  It worked well on my ubuntu, gentoo,sarge.
  But I can't find a driver for my card on FreeBSD 6.0 release.
  And I'll have try to write one by myself.
  But I can't find any datasheet for my card.
  Can anyone give some hints how to get one?
 
  Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.
 
 
  Your best bet is to contact the copyright owner of the Linux driver, and
  ask their permission to write a BSD licensed driver based on it.
 
  Isn't it GPL?
  He can write one for himself-- he already has permission. He could include
  it in a distro as well, but under GPL-- not sure if a module makes the
  kernel into a derived work but I would doubt it.
 
  Of course getting permission to make it a BSD license might be cleanest,
  but I don't think is needed, is it?
 
 
  Yes, the GPL does not allow you to take a GPL driver and write a BSD
  licensed driver based on it.
 
 Agreed. But it does allow you to take a GPL driver and write a GPL licensed
 driver based on it. Then the question is whether that GPL licensed driver
 can be used withing FreeBSD-- ie if there is anything in the FreeBSD
 license which makes use of a GPL driver contrary to the license. I do not
 think that the GPL license would forbid its use in FreeBSD.
 

Ah, OK.  I just assumed that FreeBSD would only accept BSD licensed
drivers.

You are right, he is probably free to use his own GPL'ed driver with
FreeBSD, I suspect it just could not be accepted into a distribution.

Lee



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Re: [Alsa-user] Problem about emu10k1x datasheet

2006-01-18 Thread Sergei Steshenko
On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 21:48:23 -0800 (PST)
Bill Unruh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Thu, 19 Jan 2006, Lee Revell wrote:
 
  On Wed, 2006-01-18 at 21:36 -0800, Bill Unruh wrote:
  On Thu, 19 Jan 2006, Lee Revell wrote:
 
  On Thu, 2006-01-19 at 13:01 +0800, Kun Niu wrote:
  Dear all,
 
 
  I've got a sound card SB! Live 5.1 Dell OEM.
  It worked well on my ubuntu, gentoo,sarge.
  But I can't find a driver for my card on FreeBSD 6.0 release.
  And I'll have try to write one by myself.
  But I can't find any datasheet for my card.
  Can anyone give some hints how to get one?
 
  Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.
 
 
  Your best bet is to contact the copyright owner of the Linux driver, and
  ask their permission to write a BSD licensed driver based on it.
 
  Isn't it GPL?
  He can write one for himself-- he already has permission. He could include
  it in a distro as well, but under GPL-- not sure if a module makes the
  kernel into a derived work but I would doubt it.
 
  Of course getting permission to make it a BSD license might be cleanest,
  but I don't think is needed, is it?
 
 
  Yes, the GPL does not allow you to take a GPL driver and write a BSD
  licensed driver based on it.
 
 Agreed. But it does allow you to take a GPL driver and write a GPL licensed
 driver based on it. Then the question is whether that GPL licensed driver
 can be used withing FreeBSD-- ie if there is anything in the FreeBSD
 license which makes use of a GPL driver contrary to the license. I do not
 think that the GPL license would forbid its use in FreeBSD.
 
 
 
 

The problem is you can't link GPL code with non-GPL one, but you can link
LGPL code.

Think of XEN running Linux for you, and Linux being used as sound server.

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Re: [Alsa-user] Problem about emu10k1x datasheet

2006-01-18 Thread Bill Unruh

On Thu, 19 Jan 2006, Sergei Steshenko wrote:


On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 21:48:23 -0800 (PST)
Bill Unruh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On Thu, 19 Jan 2006, Lee Revell wrote:


On Wed, 2006-01-18 at 21:36 -0800, Bill Unruh wrote:

On Thu, 19 Jan 2006, Lee Revell wrote:


On Thu, 2006-01-19 at 13:01 +0800, Kun Niu wrote:

Dear all,


I've got a sound card SB! Live 5.1 Dell OEM.
It worked well on my ubuntu, gentoo,sarge.
But I can't find a driver for my card on FreeBSD 6.0 release.
And I'll have try to write one by myself.
But I can't find any datasheet for my card.
Can anyone give some hints how to get one?

Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.



Your best bet is to contact the copyright owner of the Linux driver, and
ask their permission to write a BSD licensed driver based on it.


Isn't it GPL?
He can write one for himself-- he already has permission. He could include
it in a distro as well, but under GPL-- not sure if a module makes the
kernel into a derived work but I would doubt it.

Of course getting permission to make it a BSD license might be cleanest,
but I don't think is needed, is it?



Yes, the GPL does not allow you to take a GPL driver and write a BSD
licensed driver based on it.


Agreed. But it does allow you to take a GPL driver and write a GPL licensed
driver based on it. Then the question is whether that GPL licensed driver
can be used withing FreeBSD-- ie if there is anything in the FreeBSD
license which makes use of a GPL driver contrary to the license. I do not
think that the GPL license would forbid its use in FreeBSD.






The problem is you can't link GPL code with non-GPL one, but you can link
LGPL code.



Not clear to me. depends on whether it creates a derived work under
copyright law. The driver really is pretty independent. The kernel
communicates with it through a well defined API-- ie the module is as
separate from the kernel as it could be. 
Note that this is irrelevant if it is just for himself. He can do anything

he wants with GPL code for his own use AFAIK. But if he wants to distribute
it, then the GPL comes in.


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