[Alsa-user] PCM volume doesn't change output level in a usefull range

2006-10-19 Thread xunile
Hello,

I recently switched to ALSA 1.0.9 (mandriva 2006). Previously I used OSS 
with mandrake 9.0

I get this problem : PCM volume control doesn't change audio output 
level in its full range.
I mean :
- with my ancient setup, PCM volume control was able to change output 
level from no sound (PCM volume = 0) to a maximum defined by master 
volume control
- with new alsa, PCM volume control only change output level in a 
reduced range. (ie, with PCM volume = 0, there is still sound to the 
speakers)


This is quite annoying because most of the applications modify only PCM 
volume (xmms, xine, mplayer, ...). So each time the output is too noisy, 
I must launch alsamixer in order to change MASTER volume, because PCM 
volume control can't change output level in a usefull range.


I use ALSA 1.0.9 with a sound blaser live 5.1. I only use the 2 front 
speaker. I have no special config file for alsa.

What can I do ?


Thanks for your help,
Xavier

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Re: [Alsa-user] volume keeps resetting at play

2006-10-19 Thread sonicx
hello again,
i still havent been able to fix the problem of the self-setting
pcm_front channel. i have no idea where or how this happens. wasnt able
to find anything logged about it, nor was i able to google a resolution
or even find a hint in the soundcardlist. this is my soundcard:
cat /proc/asound/cards
0 [SI7018 ]: SI7018 - SiS SI7018
 SiS SI7018 PCI Audio at 0xd800, irq 11
1 [UART   ]: MPU-401 UART - MPU-401 UART
 MPU-401 UART at 0x300, irq 10
this didnt happen with a previous install of xubuntu, but i dont quite
see the difference or what could be the problem as i now use ubuntu. if
i open up a alsamixer i can see the volume go up everytime i play
something, resetting just works for the playing song/movie, next title
and it goes up again. may this be a gnome problem? i fiddled every
option related to sound in gnome i could find but to no avail. 
someone help me out please, the sound is just terrible this way
(distorts when pcm_front sets itself to 100%), and i dont have any other
music source then this machine. id gladly try out whatever tip you can
give me. thanks,
jonas



On Sat, 2006-10-14 at 19:56 +0100, sonicx wrote:
 hy,
 im a little bit confused - i use alsa for quite some time now, but one
 of my systems (a diskless ubuntu) keeps resetting the volume of the
 front_pcm chan to 100% everytime i play something through it. if i play
 a song, set it to 80% it stays like that till the next song plays and
 then resets. strangely the mastervolume doesnt act like that and is
 correctly saved at reboot. it doesnt matter what program i use - as soon
 as it tries to access the spu anew it set front to 100% again. none of
 my other systems has that problem. this happends regardless of the
 nfsroot being writable or not. the homedirs are always rw.  also - the
 gnomemixer crashes when this happens. everytime, if i set the volume
 down before.this cant be the usual behavior.
 could somebody point me in the right direction?
   jonas
 
 
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Re: [Alsa-user] volume keeps resetting at play

2006-10-19 Thread Lee Revell
On Thu, 2006-10-19 at 19:47 +0100, sonicx wrote:
 hello again,
 i still havent been able to fix the problem of the self-setting
 pcm_front channel. i have no idea where or how this happens. wasnt able
 to find anything logged about it, nor was i able to google a resolution
 or even find a hint in the soundcardlist. this is my soundcard:
 cat /proc/asound/cards
 0 [SI7018 ]: SI7018 - SiS SI7018
  SiS SI7018 PCI Audio at 0xd800, irq 11
 1 [UART   ]: MPU-401 UART - MPU-401 UART
  MPU-401 UART at 0x300, irq 10
 this didnt happen with a previous install of xubuntu, but i dont quite
 see the difference or what could be the problem as i now use ubuntu. if
 i open up a alsamixer i can see the volume go up everytime i play
 something, resetting just works for the playing song/movie, next title
 and it goes up again. may this be a gnome problem? i fiddled every
 option related to sound in gnome i could find but to no avail. 
 someone help me out please, the sound is just terrible this way
 (distorts when pcm_front sets itself to 100%), and i dont have any other
 music source then this machine. id gladly try out whatever tip you can
 give me. thanks,

Which application are you testing with?  Do you get the same results
using aplay to play audio?

It sounds like your application, not ALSA, is changing the PCM volume.

Lee


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Re: [Alsa-user] volume keeps resetting at play

2006-10-19 Thread sonicx
i just noticed that if there is nothing playing and i start alsamixer
first, the channel in question doesnt even appear. it appears everytime
i hit play and seems to vanish as soon as i stop.
jonas

On Thu, 2006-10-19 at 13:48 -0400, Lee Revell wrote:
 On Thu, 2006-10-19 at 19:47 +0100, sonicx wrote:
  hello again,
  i still havent been able to fix the problem of the self-setting
  pcm_front channel. i have no idea where or how this happens. wasnt able
  to find anything logged about it, nor was i able to google a resolution
  or even find a hint in the soundcardlist. this is my soundcard:
  cat /proc/asound/cards
  0 [SI7018 ]: SI7018 - SiS SI7018
   SiS SI7018 PCI Audio at 0xd800, irq 11
  1 [UART   ]: MPU-401 UART - MPU-401 UART
   MPU-401 UART at 0x300, irq 10
  this didnt happen with a previous install of xubuntu, but i dont quite
  see the difference or what could be the problem as i now use ubuntu. if
  i open up a alsamixer i can see the volume go up everytime i play
  something, resetting just works for the playing song/movie, next title
  and it goes up again. may this be a gnome problem? i fiddled every
  option related to sound in gnome i could find but to no avail. 
  someone help me out please, the sound is just terrible this way
  (distorts when pcm_front sets itself to 100%), and i dont have any other
  music source then this machine. id gladly try out whatever tip you can
  give me. thanks,
 
 Which application are you testing with?  Do you get the same results
 using aplay to play audio?
 
 It sounds like your application, not ALSA, is changing the PCM volume.
 
 Lee
 
 
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Re: [Alsa-user] volume keeps resetting at play

2006-10-19 Thread sonicx
thanks for your reply.
i tried xmms,rhytmbox,mplayer,xine... all the same. even aplay!
i just give it a
aplay
without anything else, let it just play nothing , and it still happens.
also, same thing with ossemulation and the meantioned apps. every system
sound, every icq-beep, everything sets the volume up. to 99% not 100% as
i wrote before. i set it to zero, icq makes a noise, it back to 99...
dont think its an application problem, as everyapplication that spits
out noise seems to do this. even my beloved quake2.

jonas

On Thu, 2006-10-19 at 13:48 -0400, Lee Revell wrote:
 On Thu, 2006-10-19 at 19:47 +0100, sonicx wrote:
  hello again,
  i still havent been able to fix the problem of the self-setting
  pcm_front channel. i have no idea where or how this happens. wasnt able
  to find anything logged about it, nor was i able to google a resolution
  or even find a hint in the soundcardlist. this is my soundcard:
  cat /proc/asound/cards
  0 [SI7018 ]: SI7018 - SiS SI7018
   SiS SI7018 PCI Audio at 0xd800, irq 11
  1 [UART   ]: MPU-401 UART - MPU-401 UART
   MPU-401 UART at 0x300, irq 10
  this didnt happen with a previous install of xubuntu, but i dont quite
  see the difference or what could be the problem as i now use ubuntu. if
  i open up a alsamixer i can see the volume go up everytime i play
  something, resetting just works for the playing song/movie, next title
  and it goes up again. may this be a gnome problem? i fiddled every
  option related to sound in gnome i could find but to no avail. 
  someone help me out please, the sound is just terrible this way
  (distorts when pcm_front sets itself to 100%), and i dont have any other
  music source then this machine. id gladly try out whatever tip you can
  give me. thanks,
 
 Which application are you testing with?  Do you get the same results
 using aplay to play audio?
 
 It sounds like your application, not ALSA, is changing the PCM volume.
 
 Lee
 
 
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Re: [Alsa-user] volume keeps resetting at play

2006-10-19 Thread sonicx
thanks for your reply.
i tried xmms,rhytmbox,mplayer,xine... all the same. even aplay!
i just give it a
aplay
without anything else, let it just play nothing , and it still happens.
also, same thing with ossemulation and the meantioned apps. every system
sound, every icq-beep, everything sets the volume up. to 99% not 100% as
i wrote before. i set it to zero, icq makes a noise, it back to 99...
dont think its an application problem, as everyapplication that spits
out noise seems to do this. even my beloved quake2.

jonas

On Thu, 2006-10-19 at 13:48 -0400, Lee Revell wrote:
 On Thu, 2006-10-19 at 19:47 +0100, sonicx wrote:
  hello again,
  i still havent been able to fix the problem of the self-setting
  pcm_front channel. i have no idea where or how this happens. wasnt able
  to find anything logged about it, nor was i able to google a resolution
  or even find a hint in the soundcardlist. this is my soundcard:
  cat /proc/asound/cards
  0 [SI7018 ]: SI7018 - SiS SI7018
   SiS SI7018 PCI Audio at 0xd800, irq 11
  1 [UART   ]: MPU-401 UART - MPU-401 UART
   MPU-401 UART at 0x300, irq 10
  this didnt happen with a previous install of xubuntu, but i dont quite
  see the difference or what could be the problem as i now use ubuntu. if
  i open up a alsamixer i can see the volume go up everytime i play
  something, resetting just works for the playing song/movie, next title
  and it goes up again. may this be a gnome problem? i fiddled every
  option related to sound in gnome i could find but to no avail. 
  someone help me out please, the sound is just terrible this way
  (distorts when pcm_front sets itself to 100%), and i dont have any other
  music source then this machine. id gladly try out whatever tip you can
  give me. thanks,
 
 Which application are you testing with?  Do you get the same results
 using aplay to play audio?
 
 It sounds like your application, not ALSA, is changing the PCM volume.
 
 Lee
 
 
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[Alsa-user] Poorly supported HDA intel

2006-10-19 Thread Ricardo Cerqueira
Hi all;

I'm having some trouble with the sound card on an Asus W5F laptop.
When loading, dmesg says...

hda_codec: Unknown model for ALC861, trying auto-probe from BIOS...

This happens with 2.6.17, 2.6.18, and current hg tip. Now... The problem isn't
that I don't have any sound;
I do have sound... I just don't have proper controls. There's no master nor
PCM, for instance, and the Front or Headphones controls only have the mute 
toggle.
Interestingly, the available controls change from version to version, and
sometimes they even change between module reloads (OK, that's understandable, 
the board may get confused).

I already tried the available model= options. They result
in different controls being available, and some of them give out scratchier
sound. Also, FWIW, I use softvol to get a PCM control.

I'm not sure it this card is supposed to have hardware controls, but the fact
that the controls change between versions or reloads is strange... Any hints?

Thanks;
--
RC



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