Re: [alto] Reminder ALTO interim meeting today at 10am EST (not 9am)

2023-04-29 Thread LUIS MIGUEL CONTRERAS MURILLO
Thanks Med

(adding also in cc ALTO mailing list).

I have gone through the suggested changes producing a -01 version, yet open for 
comments and discussion. I attach the txt file for your convenience (the diff 
with the published one is easily generated with IETF authors tools).

I have also created a github space for the draft, here: 
https://github.com/luismcontreras/alto-bgp-communities

Best regards

Luis

De: mohamed.boucad...@orange.com 
Enviado el: miércoles, 12 de abril de 2023 16:49
Para: Qin Wu ; Jordi Ros Giralt ; Y. 
Richard Yang ; Jensen Zhang ; 
kai...@scu.edu.cn; Lachlan Keller ; LUIS MIGUEL 
CONTRERAS MURILLO ; Randriamasy, 
Sabine (Nokia - FR/Paris-Saclay) ; 
maqiufang (A) ; ayoub.mess...@fujitsu.com; Motoyoshi 
Sekiya (Fujitsu) ; Chongfeng Xie 
; Cheng Zhou 
Asunto: RE: Reminder ALTO interim meeting today at 10am EST (not 9am)

Hi all,

FWIW, some additional comments on the BGP communities proposal can be seen at 
https://github.com/boucadair/IETF-Drafts-Reviews/raw/master/draft-contreras-alto-bgp-communities-00-rev%20Med.doc

Cheers,
Med

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Envoyé : mardi 11 avril 2023 17:21
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mailto:lachlan.kel...@yale.edu>>; LUIS MIGUEL 
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Objet : RE: Reminder ALTO interim meeting today at 10am EST (not 9am)

Thank all for participanting the discussion of ALTO interim meeting.
For ALTO OAM and New transport, please keeping on engaging with directorate 
reviewers who raised major issues and make sure all these major issues are 
addressed and related discussion transparent to the ALTO list.

For the next interim meeting plan, we will discuss Deployment Catalyst. 
Unfortunately we run out of time due to accident at the beginning of the 
interim meeting.
I believe the following drafts will be good input to the discussion. I made 
some of comments on these drafts,
Hope these remarks and comments help you understand the direction we suggested.

YANG Data Model for BGP-LS protocol
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc7752/
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc9085/
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc9351/
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc8571/
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-sr-policy/
https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-te-path-00.txt
Comment: Need to figure how this work is related to or decoupled from ALTO OAM

Extending ALTO by using BGP Communities
Comments:
How many BGP communities do we need to support?
e.g., Route Target Community, Route Origin Community
How BGP Communities can be encoded?
How BGP Communities are different from PID?

ALTO for Querying LMAP Results
https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-xie-alto-lmap-00.txt

How Network Topology data collected using NETCONF/YANG can be translated into 
ALTO Network Map, Cost Map, Endpoint Map?
https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-hzx-alto-network-topo-00.txt

-Qin/Med
发件人: alto [mailto:alto-boun...@ietf.org] 代表 Jordi Ros Giralt
发送时间: 2023年4月11日 19:31
收件人: alto@ietf.org<mailto:alto@ietf.org>
主题: [alto] Reminder ALTO interim meeting today at 10am EST (not 9am)

Hello ALTOers,

Just a reminder that we will be meeting today Tuesday at 10am EST for the ALTO 
interim #3 meeting. The focus of this meeting is on "WGLC follow-up of 
OAM/Transport I-Ds":

- Remote instructions: 
https://meetings.conf.meetecho.com/interim/?short=a6c2968d-b9f9-4ea7-b856-c1ee2e64e0c7
- Agenda 
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2023-alto-02/materials/agenda-interim-2023-alto-02-alto-01-00
- Session materials: 
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2023-alto-02/session/alto

Note that at 9am EST we have our usual ALTO weekly meeting. However, today's 
important meeting is the interim, held at 10am EST. So let me suggest that we 
skip the 9am call so we can all focus on the 10am call. I will join the 9am 
call in case anyone needs to be reminded about the 10am interim meeting.

Below you will also find the agendas for the forthcoming interim meetings as 
proposed by the chairs:


* interim #2: WGLC follow-up of OAM/Transport I-Ds

* interim #3: Deployment Catalysts

• Reuse existing network resources to identify ALTO resources (e.g., 
BGP communities)

• Prop

Re: [alto] Reminder ALTO interim meeting today at 10am EST (not 9am)

2023-04-14 Thread Jordi Ros Giralt
Hi Med, Luis and all,

Find attached another revision of "draft-contreras-alto-bgp-communities-00-rev 
Med". I tried to push a branch / pull request into your repo but it looks like 
I don't have enough rights. Feel free to upload it.

I did not address your questions on the side. I only focused on proofreading 
the text.

PS: It would be good to switch to ASCII format and work directly on a github 
I-Draft repo so we can all do PRs on ASCII rather than binary.

Thanks,
Jordi

From: mohamed.boucad...@orange.com 
Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2023 16:48
To: Qin Wu ; Jordi Ros Giralt ; Y. 
Richard Yang ; Jensen Zhang ; 
kai...@scu.edu.cn ; Lachlan Keller 
; LUIS MIGUEL CONTRERAS MURILLO 
; Randriamasy, Sabine (Nokia - 
FR/Paris-Saclay) ; maqiufang (A) 
; ayoub.mess...@fujitsu.com ; 
Motoyoshi Sekiya (Fujitsu) ; Chongfeng Xie 
; Cheng Zhou 
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Hi all,



FWIW, some additional comments on the BGP communities proposal can be seen at 
https://github.com/boucadair/IETF-Drafts-Reviews/raw/master/draft-contreras-alto-bgp-communities-00-rev%20Med.doc



Cheers,

Med



De : Qin Wu 
Envoyé : mardi 11 avril 2023 17:21
À : Jordi Ros Giralt ; Y. Richard Yang 
; Jensen Zhang ; 
kai...@scu.edu.cn; Lachlan Keller ; LUIS MIGUEL 
CONTRERAS MURILLO ; Randriamasy, 
Sabine (Nokia - FR/Paris-Saclay) ; 
maqiufang (A) ; ayoub.mess...@fujitsu.com; Motoyoshi 
Sekiya (Fujitsu) ; Chongfeng Xie 
; Cheng Zhou 
Cc : BOUCADAIR Mohamed INNOV/NET 
Objet : RE: Reminder ALTO interim meeting today at 10am EST (not 9am)



Thank all for participanting the discussion of ALTO interim meeting.

For ALTO OAM and New transport, please keeping on engaging with directorate 
reviewers who raised major issues and make sure all these major issues are 
addressed and related discussion transparent to the ALTO list.



For the next interim meeting plan, we will discuss Deployment Catalyst. 
Unfortunately we run out of time due to accident at the beginning of the 
interim meeting.

I believe the following drafts will be good input to the discussion. I made 
some of comments on these drafts,

Hope these remarks and comments help you understand the direction we suggested.



YANG Data Model for BGP-LS protocol

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc7752/

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc9085/

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc9351/

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc8571/

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-sr-policy/

https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-te-path-00.txt

Comment: Need to figure how this work is related to or decoupled from ALTO OAM



Extending ALTO by using BGP Communities

Comments:

How many BGP communities do we need to support?

e.g., Route Target Community, Route Origin Community

How BGP Communities can be encoded?

How BGP Communities are different from PID?



ALTO for Querying LMAP Results

https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-xie-alto-lmap-00.txt



How Network Topology data collected using NETCONF/YANG can be translated into 
ALTO Network Map, Cost Map, Endpoint Map?

https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-hzx-alto-network-topo-00.txt



-Qin/Med

发件人: alto [mailto:alto-boun...@ietf.org] 代表 Jordi Ros Giralt
发送时间: 2023年4月11日 19:31
收件人: alto@ietf.org<mailto:alto@ietf.org>
主题: [alto] Reminder ALTO interim meeting today at 10am EST (not 9am)



Hello ALTOers,



Just a reminder that we will be meeting today Tuesday at 10am EST for the ALTO 
interim #3 meeting. The focus of this meeting is on "WGLC follow-up of 
OAM/Transport I-Ds":



- Remote instructions: 
https://meetings.conf.meetecho.com/interim/?short=a6c2968d-b9f9-4ea7-b856-c1ee2e64e0c7

- Agenda 
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2023-alto-02/materials/agenda-interim-2023-alto-02-alto-01-00

- Session materials: 
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2023-alto-02/session/alto



Note that at 9am EST we have our usual ALTO weekly meeting. However, today's 
important meeting is the interim, held at 10am EST. So let me suggest that we 
skip the 9am call so we can all focus on the 10am call. I will join the 9am 
call in case anyone needs to be reminded about the 10am interim meeting.



Below you will also find the agendas for the forthcoming interim meetings as 
proposed by the chairs:



* interim #2: WGLC follow-up of OAM/Transport I-Ds

* interim #3: Deployment Catalysts

• Reuse existing network resources to identify ALTO resources (e.g., 
BGP communities)

• Proposals to fix the integration complexity and integration with data 
sources

* interim #4: OAM/Transport I-Ds

* interim #5: Deployment Catalysts

• Security/privacy isolation



Re: [alto] Reminder ALTO interim meeting today at 10am EST (not 9am)

2023-04-11 Thread LUIS MIGUEL CONTRERAS MURILLO
Hi Jordi,

Fine for me to skip regular call and meet altogether at interim call.

Best regards

Luis

De: alto  En nombre de Jordi Ros Giralt
Enviado el: martes, 11 de abril de 2023 13:31
Para: alto@ietf.org
Asunto: [alto] Reminder ALTO interim meeting today at 10am EST (not 9am)

Hello ALTOers,

Just a reminder that we will be meeting today Tuesday at 10am EST for the ALTO 
interim #3 meeting. The focus of this meeting is on "WGLC follow-up of 
OAM/Transport I-Ds":

- Remote instructions: 
https://meetings.conf.meetecho.com/interim/?short=a6c2968d-b9f9-4ea7-b856-c1ee2e64e0c7
- Agenda 
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2023-alto-02/materials/agenda-interim-2023-alto-02-alto-01-00
- Session materials: 
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2023-alto-02/session/alto

Note that at 9am EST we have our usual ALTO weekly meeting. However, today's 
important meeting is the interim, held at 10am EST. So let me suggest that we 
skip the 9am call so we can all focus on the 10am call. I will join the 9am 
call in case anyone needs to be reminded about the 10am interim meeting.

Below you will also find the agendas for the forthcoming interim meetings as 
proposed by the chairs:


* interim #2: WGLC follow-up of OAM/Transport I-Ds

* interim #3: Deployment Catalysts

* Reuse existing network resources to identify ALTO resources (e.g., 
BGP communities)

* Proposals to fix the integration complexity and integration with data 
sources

* interim #4: OAM/Transport I-Ds

* interim #5: Deployment Catalysts

* Security/privacy isolation

Thanks,
Jordi on behalf of ALTO WG



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[alto] Reminder ALTO interim meeting today at 10am EST (not 9am)

2023-04-11 Thread Jordi Ros Giralt
Hello ALTOers,

Just a reminder that we will be meeting today Tuesday at 10am EST for the ALTO 
interim #3 meeting. The focus of this meeting is on "WGLC follow-up of 
OAM/Transport I-Ds":

- Remote instructions: 
https://meetings.conf.meetecho.com/interim/?short=a6c2968d-b9f9-4ea7-b856-c1ee2e64e0c7
- Agenda 
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2023-alto-02/materials/agenda-interim-2023-alto-02-alto-01-00
- Session materials: 
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2023-alto-02/session/alto

Note that at 9am EST we have our usual ALTO weekly meeting. However, today's 
important meeting is the interim, held at 10am EST. So let me suggest that we 
skip the 9am call so we can all focus on the 10am call. I will join the 9am 
call in case anyone needs to be reminded about the 10am interim meeting.

Below you will also find the agendas for the forthcoming interim meetings as 
proposed by the chairs:


* interim #2: WGLC follow-up of OAM/Transport I-Ds

* interim #3: Deployment Catalysts

· Reuse existing network resources to identify ALTO resources (e.g., 
BGP communities)

· Proposals to fix the integration complexity and integration with data 
sources

* interim #4: OAM/Transport I-Ds

* interim #5: Deployment Catalysts

· Security/privacy isolation

Thanks,
Jordi on behalf of ALTO WG
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