question about tapetype
Hi, I have an Onstream ADR50, and I'm just learning how to get amanda configured on RH72. One of the things I wanted to try was find the right tape type, so I ran tapetype, thinking it would do some diagnostics and print some information about the tape type. Well, it's been running for more than a day now, and so far it only managed two lines of output, namely : wrote 671985 32Kb blocks in 2055 files in 29620 seconds (short write) wrote 533173 32Kb blocks in 3271 files and it's still counting on the second line. So my question is : a) is this standard behaviour ? b) how long is it going to take ? Thanks, Thomas The Dave/Dina Project : future TV today ! - http://davedina.apestaart.org/ -*- -*- I can't leave you alone because you're so disarming and I'm caught in the midst of you -*- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -*- URGent, the best radio on the Internet - 24/7 ! - http://urgent.rug.ac.be/
Re: question about tapetype
You should really search the mailing list archives for OnStream and ADR. At the moment, the ADR50 has a firmware bug that prevents it from working with amanda at all. Greetings, Moritz Hi, I have an Onstream ADR50, and I'm just learning how to get amanda configured on RH72. One of the things I wanted to try was find the right tape type, so I ran tapetype, thinking it would do some diagnostics and print some information about the tape type. Well, it's been running for more than a day now, and so far it only managed two lines of output, namely : wrote 671985 32Kb blocks in 2055 files in 29620 seconds (short write) wrote 533173 32Kb blocks in 3271 files and it's still counting on the second line. So my question is : a) is this standard behaviour ? b) how long is it going to take ? Thanks, Thomas The Dave/Dina Project : future TV today ! - http://davedina.apestaart.org/ -*- -*- I can't leave you alone because you're so disarming and I'm caught in the midst of you -*- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -*- URGent, the best radio on the Internet - 24/7 ! - http://urgent.rug.ac.be/
Re: S.O.S.
On Fri, 11 Jan 2002 at 11:19am, Túlio Machado de Faria wrote Help me, please. I need to use amanda with two units of tape in one backup. How? Look in the documentation for the parameter 'runtapes' and, if you don't have a tape changer, how to set up 'chg-manual'. -- Joshua Baker-LePain Department of Biomedical Engineering Duke University
Re: S.O.S.
Ok, I modifed my amanda.com with: runtapes 2 but, the amcheck is not check my second tape unit. Where is problem? In a message dated: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 11:19:19 -0200 =?iso-8859-15?q?T=FAlio=20Machado=20de=20Faria?= said: Help me, please. I need to use amanda with two units of tape in one backup. How? man amanda(8) see 'runtapes'
Finding tapes
Hi all, I've been asked to locate a set up tapes based on dates. Any idea how I do this? Basically I just need to search the date stamps for each tape and tell my boss which tapes contain backups for the specified period of time. I looked at the amadmin command, but the sub-commands all seem to want a hostname. I need the information for *all* systems. Basically, if the tape was written to during the specified range, I need to know. Any ideas? Thanks, -- Seeya, Paul God Bless America! If you're not having fun, you're not doing it right! ...we don't need to be perfect to be the best around, and we never stop trying to be better. Tom Clancy, The Bear and The Dragon
Re: S.O.S.
In a message dated: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 13:05:58 -0200 =?iso-8859-1?q?T=FAlio=20Machado=20de=20Faria?= said: Ok, I modifed my amanda.com with: runtapes 2 but, the amcheck is not check my second tape unit. Where is problem? Are you saying you want to backup to 2 tapes or to 2 different tape drives? -- Seeya, Paul God Bless America! If you're not having fun, you're not doing it right! ...we don't need to be perfect to be the best around, and we never stop trying to be better. Tom Clancy, The Bear and The Dragon
Re: S.O.S.
2 different tape drivers. Em Sex 11 Jan 2002 13:56, you wrote: In a message dated: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 13:05:58 -0200 =?iso-8859-1?q?T=FAlio=20Machado=20de=20Faria?= said: Ok, I modifed my amanda.com with: runtapes 2 but, the amcheck is not check my second tape unit. Where is problem? Are you saying you want to backup to 2 tapes or to 2 different tape drives?
Re: Finding tapes
On Fri, 11 Jan 2002 at 10:59am, Paul Lussier wrote I've been asked to locate a set up tapes based on dates. Any idea how I do this? Basically I just need to search the date stamps for each tape and tell my boss which tapes contain backups for the specified period of time. I looked at the amadmin command, but the sub-commands all seem to want a hostname. I need the information for *all* systems. But the hostname is typically optional. For example: [jlb@chaos jlb]$ sudo su amanda -c amadmin RAID find --sort d | grep 2002-01-11 2002-01-11 $HOST /data/dls130 RAIDSet1-0115 OK 2002-01-11 $HOST /data/bgeiman 0 RAIDSet1-0114 OK 2002-01-11 $HOST /data/krn 1 RAIDSet1-0113 OK 2002-01-11 $HOST /data/mag110 RAIDSet1-0112 OK 2002-01-11 $HOST /data/jjd 1 RAIDSet1-0111 OK 2002-01-11 $HOST /data/amanda 0 RAIDSet1-0110 OK 2002-01-11 $HOST /data/jlb 1 RAIDSet1-01 9 OK 2002-01-11 $HOST /data/kgammel 1 RAIDSet1-01 8 OK 2002-01-11 $HOST /data/get 1 RAIDSet1-01 7 OK 2002-01-11 $HOST /data/gfp 0 RAIDSet1-01 6 OK 2002-01-11 $HOST /data/lnb 1 RAIDSet1-01 5 OK 2002-01-11 $HOST /data/cgk3 1 RAIDSet1-01 4 OK 2002-01-11 $HOST /data/mlp6 1 RAIDSet1-01 3 OK 2002-01-11 $HOST /data/cmg101 RAIDSet1-01 2 OK 2002-01-11 $HOST /data/anc4 1 RAIDSet1-01 1 OK -- Joshua Baker-LePain Department of Biomedical Engineering Duke University
Re: S.O.S.
In a message dated: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 14:24:01 -0200 =?iso-8859-1?q?T=FAlio=20Machado=20de=20Faria?= said: 2 different tape drivers. I don't think you can do this easily. You'll need to set up different amanda configurations each pointing to a different drive and split the total number of file systems to back up between the 2 different 'disklist' files for the 2 different configurations. -- Seeya, Paul God Bless America! If you're not having fun, you're not doing it right! ...we don't need to be perfect to be the best around, and we never stop trying to be better. Tom Clancy, The Bear and The Dragon
Re: S.O.S.
runtapes 2 You have to have a working changer configuration. On Fri, 11 Jan 2002, [iso-8859-15] Túlio Machado de Faria wrote: - Help me, please. - - - I need to use amanda with two units of tape in one backup. - - How? - - -- -- Stephen Carville UNIX and Network Administrator Ace Flood USA 310-342-3602 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Finding tapes
Try amadmin config find This prints out date, host, disk, level, tape, and status for everything in config. On Fri, 11 Jan 2002, Paul Lussier wrote: - - Hi all, - - I've been asked to locate a set up tapes based on dates. Any idea - how I do this? Basically I just need to search the date stamps for - each tape and tell my boss which tapes contain backups for the - specified period of time. - - I looked at the amadmin command, but the sub-commands all seem to - want a hostname. I need the information for *all* systems. - - Basically, if the tape was written to during the specified range, I - need to know. - - Any ideas? - - Thanks, - - - -- -- Stephen Carville UNIX and Network Administrator Ace Flood USA 310-342-3602 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: S.O.S.
I use two DAT units The /teste have 2GBytes I ran amdump, but got the following messages. why amanda didn't fineshed the backup These dumps were to tapes avati01, avati02. *** A TAPE ERROR OCCURRED: [[writing file: No space left on device]]. Some dumps may have been left in the holding disk. Run amflush to flush them to tape. The next 2 tapes Amanda expects to used are: a new tape, avati01. FAILURE AND STRANGE DUMP SUMMARY: localhost /teste lev 0 FAILED [data write: Connection reset by peer] localhost /teste lev 0 FAILED [dump to tape failed] localhost /teste lev 0 FAILED [data write: Connection reset by peer] localhost /teste lev 0 FAILED [out of tape] localhost /teste lev 0 FAILED [dump to tape failed] STATISTICS: Total Full Daily Estimate Time (hrs:min) 0:00 Run Time (hrs:min) 1:46 Dump Time (hrs:min) 0:00 0:00 0:00 Output Size (meg) 0.0 0.0 0.0 Original Size (meg) 0.0 0.0 0.0 Avg Compressed Size (%) -- -- -- Filesystems Dumped 0 0 0 Avg Dump Rate (k/s) -- -- -- Tape Time (hrs:min) 0:00 0:00 0:00 Tape Size (meg) 0.0 0.0 0.0 Tape Used (%) 0.0 0.0 0.0 Filesystems Taped 0 0 0 Avg Tp Write Rate (k/s) -- -- -- FAILED AND STRANGE DUMP DETAILS: /-- localhost /teste lev 0 FAILED [data write: Connection reset by peer] sendbackup: start [localhost:/teste level 0] sendbackup: info BACKUP=/bin/tar sendbackup: info RECOVER_CMD=/bin/tar -f... - sendbackup: info end \ /-- localhost /teste lev 0 FAILED [data write: Connection reset by peer] sendbackup: start [localhost:/teste level 0] sendbackup: info BACKUP=/bin/tar sendbackup: info RECOVER_CMD=/bin/tar -f... - sendbackup: info end \ NOTES: planner: Adding new disk localhost:/teste. taper: tape avati01 kb 1663520 fm 1 writing file: No space left on device taper: retrying localhost:/teste.0 on new tape: [writing file: No space left on device] taper: tape avati02 kb 1956224 fm 1 writing file: No space left on device DUMP SUMMARY: DUMPER STATS TAPER STATS HOSTNAME DISK L ORIG-KB OUT-KB COMP% MMM:SS KB/s MMM:SS KB/s -- - localhost /teste 0 FAILED --- -- Mensagem repassada -- Subject: Re: S.O.S. Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 14:24:01 -0200 From: Túlio Machado de Faria [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2 different tape drivers. Em Sex 11 Jan 2002 13:56, you wrote: In a message dated: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 13:05:58 -0200 =?iso-8859-1?q?T=FAlio=20Machado=20de=20Faria?= said: Ok, I modifed my amanda.com with: runtapes 2 but, the amcheck is not check my second tape unit. Where is problem? Are you saying you want to backup to 2 tapes or to 2 different tape drives?
Short write with tapeio and file: driver
I'm using Amanda version 2.4.2p2-tapeio (from cvs) to run backups to a hard drive instead of a tape. Using the file: driver went fine for a couple days, now consistently produces short write errors. Specifically the error message looks like this: FAILURE AND STRANGE DUMP SUMMARY: 10.0.0.16 hda4 lev 0 FAILED [out of tape] taper: FATAL syncpipe_get: r: unexpected EOF The definition for the disk 'tapetype' is this: define tapetype HARD-DISK { comment Hard disk instead of tape length 15000 mbytes # Simulates end of tape on hard disk } And the changer.conf file looks like this: multieject 0 gravity 0 needeject 0 ejectdelay 0 statefile /usr/local/etc/amanda/daily/changer-status firstslot 1 lastslot 8 slot 1 file:/home/amanda/dumps/tape01 slot 2 file:/home/amanda/dumps/tape02 slot 3 file:/home/amanda/dumps/tape03 slot 4 file:/home/amanda/dumps/tape04 slot 5 file:/home/amanda/dumps/tape05 slot 6 file:/home/amanda/dumps/tape06 slot 7 file:/home/amanda/dumps/tape07 slot 8 file:/home/amanda/dumps/tape08 The file for the failed client/drive is 2056 MB. Could this be a 2GB file size limitation problem I'm getting? If so, is there any way to set a 'chunksize' equivalent for the tape definition? Thanks, -- Jeremy Wadsack Wadsack-Allen Digital Group
Re: S.O.S.
On Fri, Jan 11, 2002 at 04:42:37PM -0200, T?lio Machado de Faria wrote: I use two DAT units The /teste have 2GBytes I ran amdump, but got the following messages. why amanda didn't fineshed the backup Because it ran out of tape? It tries to put one item from the disklist on one tape. I'm just now tweaking locations of things in a filesystem on one of my servers because what's in the filesystem won't go on one tape, and I don't have budget to buy a bigger tape drive this month. These dumps were to tapes avati01, avati02. *** A TAPE ERROR OCCURRED: [[writing file: No space left on device]]. Some dumps may have been left in the holding disk. Run amflush to flush them to tape. The next 2 tapes Amanda expects to used are: a new tape, avati01. FAILURE AND STRANGE DUMP SUMMARY: ? localhost ?/teste lev 0 FAILED [data write: Connection reset by peer] ? localhost ?/teste lev 0 FAILED [dump to tape failed] ? localhost ?/teste lev 0 FAILED [data write: Connection reset by peer] ? localhost ?/teste lev 0 FAILED [out of tape] ? localhost ?/teste lev 0 FAILED [dump to tape failed] STATISTICS: ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Total ? ? ? Full ? ? ?Daily ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Estimate Time (hrs:min) ? ?0:00 Run Time (hrs:min) ? ? ? ? 1:46 Dump Time (hrs:min) ? ? ? ?0:00 ? ? ? 0:00 ? ? ? 0:00 Output Size (meg) ? ? ? ? ? 0.0 ? ? ? ?0.0 ? ? ? ?0.0 Original Size (meg) ? ? ? ? 0.0 ? ? ? ?0.0 ? ? ? ?0.0 Avg Compressed Size (%) ? ? -- ? ? ? ? -- ? ? ? ? -- Filesystems Dumped ? ? ? ? ? ?0 ? ? ? ? ?0 ? ? ? ? ?0 Avg Dump Rate (k/s) ? ? ? ? -- ? ? ? ? -- ? ? ? ? -- Tape Time (hrs:min) ? ? ? ?0:00 ? ? ? 0:00 ? ? ? 0:00 Tape Size (meg) ? ? ? ? ? ? 0.0 ? ? ? ?0.0 ? ? ? ?0.0 Tape Used (%) ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 0.0 ? ? ? ?0.0 ? ? ? ?0.0 Filesystems Taped ? ? ? ? ? ? 0 ? ? ? ? ?0 ? ? ? ? ?0 Avg Tp Write Rate (k/s) ? ? -- ? ? ? ? -- ? ? ? ? -- FAILED AND STRANGE DUMP DETAILS: /-- localhost ?/teste lev 0 FAILED [data write: Connection reset by peer] sendbackup: start [localhost:/teste level 0] sendbackup: info BACKUP=/bin/tar sendbackup: info RECOVER_CMD=/bin/tar -f... - sendbackup: info end \ /-- localhost ?/teste lev 0 FAILED [data write: Connection reset by peer] sendbackup: start [localhost:/teste level 0] sendbackup: info BACKUP=/bin/tar sendbackup: info RECOVER_CMD=/bin/tar -f... - sendbackup: info end \ NOTES: ? planner: Adding new disk localhost:/teste. ? taper: tape avati01 kb 1663520 fm 1 writing file: No space left on device ? taper: retrying localhost:/teste.0 on new tape: [writing file: No space left on device] ? taper: tape avati02 kb 1956224 fm 1 writing file: No space left on device DUMP SUMMARY: ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?DUMPER STATS ? ? ? ? ? ?TAPER STATS HOSTNAME ? ? DISK ? ? ? ?L ORIG-KB OUT-KB COMP% MMM:SS ?KB/s MMM:SS ?KB/s -- - localhost ? ?/teste ? ? ?0 FAILED --- -- Mensagem repassada -- Subject: Re: S.O.S. Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 14:24:01 -0200 From: T?lio Machado de Faria [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2 different tape drivers. Em Sex 11 Jan 2002 13:56, you wrote: In a message dated: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 13:05:58 -0200 =?iso-8859-1?q?T=FAlio=20Machado=20de=20Faria?= said: Ok, I modifed my amanda.com with: runtapes 2 but, the amcheck is not check my second tape unit. Where is problem? Are you saying you want to backup to 2 tapes or to 2 different tape drives? -- - Dan Wilder [EMAIL PROTECTED] Technical Manager Editor SSC, Inc. P.O. Box 55549 Phone: 206-782-8808 Seattle, WA 98155-0549URL http://embedded.linuxjournal.com/ -
Re: S.O.S.
I am using: tpchanger chg-multi for automatically dumb of unit. Em Sex 11 Jan 2002 17:18, Dan Wilder escreveu: On Fri, Jan 11, 2002 at 04:42:37PM -0200, T?lio Machado de Faria wrote: I use two DAT units The /teste have 2GBytes I ran amdump, but got the following messages. why amanda didn't fineshed the backup Because it ran out of tape? It tries to put one item from the disklist on one tape. I'm just now tweaking locations of things in a filesystem on one of my servers because what's in the filesystem won't go on one tape, and I don't have budget to buy a bigger tape drive this month. These dumps were to tapes avati01, avati02. *** A TAPE ERROR OCCURRED: [[writing file: No space left on device]]. Some dumps may have been left in the holding disk. Run amflush to flush them to tape. The next 2 tapes Amanda expects to used are: a new tape, avati01. FAILURE AND STRANGE DUMP SUMMARY: ? localhost ?/teste lev 0 FAILED [data write: Connection reset by peer] ? localhost ?/teste lev 0 FAILED [dump to tape failed] ? localhost ?/teste lev 0 FAILED [data write: Connection reset by peer] ? localhost ?/teste lev 0 FAILED [out of tape] ? localhost ?/teste lev 0 FAILED [dump to tape failed] STATISTICS: ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Total ? ? ? Full ? ? ?Daily ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Estimate Time (hrs:min) ? ?0:00 Run Time (hrs:min) ? ? ? ? 1:46 Dump Time (hrs:min) ? ? ? ?0:00 ? ? ? 0:00 ? ? ? 0:00 Output Size (meg) ? ? ? ? ? 0.0 ? ? ? ?0.0 ? ? ? ?0.0 Original Size (meg) ? ? ? ? 0.0 ? ? ? ?0.0 ? ? ? ?0.0 Avg Compressed Size (%) ? ? -- ? ? ? ? -- ? ? ? ? -- Filesystems Dumped ? ? ? ? ? ?0 ? ? ? ? ?0 ? ? ? ? ?0 Avg Dump Rate (k/s) ? ? ? ? -- ? ? ? ? -- ? ? ? ? -- Tape Time (hrs:min) ? ? ? ?0:00 ? ? ? 0:00 ? ? ? 0:00 Tape Size (meg) ? ? ? ? ? ? 0.0 ? ? ? ?0.0 ? ? ? ?0.0 Tape Used (%) ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 0.0 ? ? ? ?0.0 ? ? ? ?0.0 Filesystems Taped ? ? ? ? ? ? 0 ? ? ? ? ?0 ? ? ? ? ?0 Avg Tp Write Rate (k/s) ? ? -- ? ? ? ? -- ? ? ? ? -- FAILED AND STRANGE DUMP DETAILS: /-- localhost ?/teste lev 0 FAILED [data write: Connection reset by peer] sendbackup: start [localhost:/teste level 0] sendbackup: info BACKUP=/bin/tar sendbackup: info RECOVER_CMD=/bin/tar -f... - sendbackup: info end \ /-- localhost ?/teste lev 0 FAILED [data write: Connection reset by peer] sendbackup: start [localhost:/teste level 0] sendbackup: info BACKUP=/bin/tar sendbackup: info RECOVER_CMD=/bin/tar -f... - sendbackup: info end \ NOTES: ? planner: Adding new disk localhost:/teste. ? taper: tape avati01 kb 1663520 fm 1 writing file: No space left on device ? taper: retrying localhost:/teste.0 on new tape: [writing file: No space left on device] ? taper: tape avati02 kb 1956224 fm 1 writing file: No space left on device DUMP SUMMARY: ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?DUMPER STATS ? ? ? ? ? ?TAPER STATS HOSTNAME ? ? DISK ? ? ? ?L ORIG-KB OUT-KB COMP% MMM:SS ?KB/s MMM:SS ?KB/s -- - localhost ? ?/teste ? ? ?0 FAILED --- -- Mensagem repassada -- Subject: Re: S.O.S. Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 14:24:01 -0200 From: T?lio Machado de Faria [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2 different tape drivers. Em Sex 11 Jan 2002 13:56, you wrote: In a message dated: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 13:05:58 -0200 =?iso-8859-1?q?T=FAlio=20Machado=20de=20Faria?= said: Ok, I modifed my amanda.com with: runtapes 2 but, the amcheck is not check my second tape unit. Where is problem? Are you saying you want to backup to 2 tapes or to 2 different tape drives?
Re: S.O.S.
On Fri, 11 Jan 2002 at 6:31pm, Túlio Machado de Faria wrote I am using: tpchanger chg-multi for automatically dumb of unit. You cannot have a single filesystem (disklist entry) that is bigger than your tapes -- amanda doesn't span. How big are your tapes? -- Joshua Baker-LePain Department of Biomedical Engineering Duke University
samba: subdirectories and/or using *
the general problem is wanting to back up a bunch of win2k machines with amanda. the best solution would be if i could tell amanda to backup: //win2k-machine/C$/directory1 //win2k-machine/C$/directory2 ... //win2k-machine/C$/directoryN the C$ shares already exist, so the administrative overhead for the client machines is very minimal. it appears that amanda can't do this. i'm guessing amanda just calls smbclient (i haven't started looking through the source, so i'm not sure), and smbclient wants to connect to a real share (and not a subdirectory of one), so i'm stuck on this point. one of the options i see is to hack the amanda source so that it can use smbclient to connect to a share, and then work within smbclient (somehow) to grab things within that share, but that seems difficult. also, this post (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amanda-users/message/31162) contains quoted text that suggests that doing this won't work. i can't find the actual post that was quoted from, because yahoo groups's threading is fairly effectively broken. so if there is a way to access subdirectories of samba shares, that would be ideal. a slightly less-good solution would be to have all the client machines share things they want backed-up explicitly. so if the machine HOMER wants to share c:\donuts and c:\porkchops, it makes shares backup-donuts and backup-porkchops. now what would be great is if amanda could back-up backup-* on each client it knows about. the amanda docs in SAMBA suggest that this should be possible: May be asterisk (*) to match all remaining shares for this Samba server. The first match in the file is used, so specific entries must be listed first. if amanda can only get remaining shares, this solution might not really work either, because i'd have to enumerate all regular shares and ignore them, and then backup //HOMER/*. but ideally, i'd like to do //homer/backup-* and have amanda know what i'm talking about. when i try this, it doesn't work. amcheck and amdump both throw back the messages that smbclient gives when you try to tell smbclient to connecto to //machine/* -- namely, that this share does not exist. (and incidentally, my amanda setup works fine for explicitly-named samba shares, so i'm pretty sure this * thing is the problem). since these two avenues have failed, the solution i'm looking at implementing involves explicitly sharing dirctories on the client that need to be backed up, and *also* maintaining this list on the amanda server's disklist file (probably through a cgi or whatever). this solution has sort of a lot of overhead. so is there a better way of doing what i'm trying to do? or is this labor-intensive path i'm starting to walk pretty much the only way? please cc me on any replies, as i'm not subscribed to this list. also, i'm still hoping for a reply on my question better authentication than .amandahosts? (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amanda-users/message/32244?threaded=1). fortunately, it's easier to hack around these kinds of problems on the UNIX side than on the windows side. thanks, tyler -- It's Redhat 7. You don't even *need* the root password. --tyler
Re: samba: subdirectories and/or using *
replying to myself... the best solution would be if i could tell amanda to backup: //win2k-machine/C$/directory1 //win2k-machine/C$/directory2 ... //win2k-machine/C$/directoryN the C$ shares already exist, so the administrative overhead for the client machines is very minimal. it appears that amanda can't do this. i'm guessing amanda just calls it looks like this functionality exists in the 2.3 stuff. how stable is 2.3? normally, i have no problem at all tracking development releases, but with the backup infrastructure, i have to be a little paranoid :). also, it looks like the 2.3 codebase has a security api which will let me use ssh authentication (which would resolve my other issue about weak authentication of this whole backup process), but i can't see where this is configured or how it works. can someone speak to that? please cc me on responses. thanks again, tyler -- In philosophy you never hear the expression 'fine, let's move on'. It doesn't exist. --Ramachandran