Amanda with SMB
Hi 1. What client program I must load on windows XP host that Amanda do backup ? 2. If you know what RTFM - I be rewarding. Leonid
Re: Estimate tieouts
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 11:04:10 -0400 From: Jason Edgecombe [EMAIL PROTECTED] I noticed that the amanda server uses udp port 993 as the src. so the first part of the amanda network conversation goes like this: server port 993 - client port 10080 hi server port 993 - client port 10080 hi back server port 993 - client port 10080 sendsize server port 993 - client port 10080 ack sendsize Is this correct? does amanda always use port 993 as the source port? It uses a random privileged (1024) port. I hypothesize that my dumps are only finishing sometimes because port 993 is blocked by default. port 993 works work only a few minutes until the allow related rule timesout. I understand it you have iptables/netfilter on the server? Then this might well be the reason. However, then it should also fail during daytime. -- Toomas Aas | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.raad.tartu.ee/~toomas/ * ASCII stupid question, get a stupid ANSI!
Re: The old GnuTar vs. Dump topic
On Wed, Jul 23, 2003 à 11:15:24PM +0200, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: Hi, amanda-users, Hi Stefan, is there a brief comparison between using dump or tar with amanda anywhere? http://ftp.at.linuxfromscratch.org/utils/archivers/star/testscripts/zwicky/testdump.doc.html -- Nicolas Ecarnot Please don't Cc to this list's users. Only reply to the list.
Re: The old GnuTar vs. Dump topic
Nicolas Ecarnot wrote: On Wed, Jul 23, 2003 à 11:15:24PM +0200, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: Hi, amanda-users, Hi Stefan, is there a brief comparison between using dump or tar with amanda anywhere? http://ftp.at.linuxfromscratch.org/utils/archivers/star/testscripts/zwicky/testdump.doc.html Please note that these tests were done in 1991. That's an eternity in the life of a development cycle in software. But, yes, it gives an idea of what you should take into account. -- Paul Bijnens, XplanationTel +32 16 397.511 Technologielaan 21 bus 2, B-3001 Leuven, BELGIUMFax +32 16 397.512 http://www.xplanation.com/ email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** * I think I've got the hang of it now: exit, ^D, ^C, ^\, ^Z, ^Q, F6, * * quit, ZZ, :q, :q!, M-Z, ^X^C, logoff, logout, close, bye, /bye, * * stop, end, F3, ~., ^]c, +++ ATH, disconnect, halt, abort, hangup, * * PF4, F20, ^X^X, :D::D, KJOB, F14-f-e, F8-e, kill -1 $$, shutdown, * * kill -9 1, Alt-F4, Ctrl-Alt-Del, AltGr-NumLock, Stop-A, ...* * ... Are you sure? ... YES ... Phew ... I'm out * ***
Re: The old GnuTar vs. Dump topic
Selon Paul Bijnens [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Please note that these tests were done in 1991. That's an eternity in the life of a development cycle in software. But, yes, it gives an idea of what you should take into account. That's right. The backup issues interest me enough today to make me do all those tests again, today, on two or three different OS, when I'll have some time. This would be nice to do that work in a team, and not alone. -- Nicolas Ecarnot
restore works but hangs...
Hi, This is maybe a small problem you may had so you might help : When I use restore on a host with the file on this host, there is no problem. Now, when I use restore across the lan, it still works but never stops : ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] 'amrestore -p /dev/nsa0.1 myClient /var '|restore -tvf - This command gives me a nice listing, as in the local case, but hangs at the end. It never returns to shell. If I try to use that command to actually restore files, it also works, but again without ending. A ctrl-c is my only way out. In the man amrecover, I can read : -p Pipe output. [...] Note: restore may report short read errors when reading from a pipe. Most versions of restore support a blocking factor option to let you set the read block size, and you should set it to 2. See the example below. Ok, I don't know what a 'blocking factor' is. Under FreeBSD or OpenBSD, the only option I have for restore is the -b (for blocksize), and I can't use 2 for that. I tried with 32k, but no change. I guess I have to try the same operation under linux to see what's happening. -- Nicolas Ecarnot
Re: The old GnuTar vs. Dump topic
Hi, on 24.07.2003 at 11:20 you wrote to amanda-users: NE Selon Paul Bijnens [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Please note that these tests were done in 1991. That's an eternity in the life of a development cycle in software. But, yes, it gives an idea of what you should take into account. NE That's right. NE The backup issues interest me enough today to make me do all those tests NE again, today, on two or three different OS, when I'll have some time. NE This would be nice to do that work in a team, and not alone. I am a bit surprised by the fact that dump scored against Gnutar. I hope that the 12 years since then have done massive changes to the tested behavior. Doing the tests would be interesting. I looked up the mentioned ftp, but couldn´t find the scripts anymore. -- best regards, Stefan mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
FOLLOW-UP: amverify runs on same tape twice
Kurt Yoder said: Hello folks I've only got one tape drive with no robot, so if I have more than one tape, I change it manually. Thus, I've set up a manual changer configuration; part of that is setting runtapes 2. So far, so good. Now if I run amverify, it verifies once (ok), then rewinds and *re-verifies the same tape*. According to amverify man page, this is because I've set runtapes to 2. I would like to set runtapes to 2 so I can manually change tapes, but not have amverify check the same tape twice. Is this possible? For anyone who was interested, I ended up creating a new set exclusively for verifies. This set has runtapes set to 1. Problem solved... -- Kurt Yoder Sport Health network administrator
Re: FOLLOW-UP: amverify runs on same tape twice
On Thu, Jul 24, 2003 at 08:24:55AM -0400, Kurt Yoder wrote: Kurt Yoder said: Hello folks I've only got one tape drive with no robot, so if I have more than one tape, I change it manually. Thus, I've set up a manual changer configuration; part of that is setting runtapes 2. So far, so good. Now if I run amverify, it verifies once (ok), then rewinds and *re-verifies the same tape*. According to amverify man page, this is because I've set runtapes to 2. I would like to set runtapes to 2 so I can manually change tapes, but not have amverify check the same tape twice. Is this possible? For anyone who was interested, I ended up creating a new set exclusively for verifies. This set has runtapes set to 1. Problem solved... Since amanda-2.4.3, you can pass the runtapes parameter on the command line. amverify config [ slot [ runtapes ] ] Jean-Louis -- Jean-Louis Martineau email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Departement IRO, Universite de Montreal C.P. 6128, Succ. CENTRE-VILLETel: (514) 343-6111 ext. 3529 Montreal, Canada, H3C 3J7Fax: (514) 343-5834
Re: Estimate timeouts
Toomas Aas wrote: Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 11:04:10 -0400 From: Jason Edgecombe [EMAIL PROTECTED] I noticed that the amanda server uses udp port 993 as the src. so the first part of the amanda network conversation goes like this: server port 993 - client port 10080 hi server port 993 - client port 10080 hi back server port 993 - client port 10080 sendsize server port 993 - client port 10080 ack sendsize Is this correct? does amanda always use port 993 as the source port? It uses a random privileged (1024) port. I hypothesize that my dumps are only finishing sometimes because port 993 is blocked by default. port 993 works work only a few minutes until the allow related rule timesout. I understand it you have iptables/netfilter on the server? Then this might well be the reason. However, then it should also fail during daytime. When amanda uses tcp instead of udp for the backup, are all of the tcp connections made from the server to the client? How I I force amanda to use tcp instead of udp? I have had the backup fail during the day when I run it, but it usuaully fails at night. I think that the estimate times vary and that when the estimate time exceeds some firewall timeout value, then it fails because it no longer fits the iptables related rule. Can I use the tcp connections to get around this? Sincerely, Jason Edgecombe
HPUX 11.0 Install
Hello. When I run the configure script I get the following error: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ./configure checking build system type... hppa2.0w-hp-hpux11.00 checking host system type... hppa2.0w-hp-hpux11.00 checking target system type... hppa2.0w-hp-hpux11.00 checking for a BSD-compatible install... config/install-sh -c checking whether build environment is sane... yes checking for gawk... no checking for mawk... no checking for nawk... no checking for awk... awk checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... yes configure: error: *** --with-user=USER is missing Can anyone give me a solution? Or where to look for the problem?
Re: HPUX 11.0 Install
When I run the configure script I get the following error: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ./configure checking build system type... hppa2.0w-hp-hpux11.00 checking host system type... hppa2.0w-hp-hpux11.00 checking target system type... hppa2.0w-hp-hpux11.00 checking for a BSD-compatible install... config/install-sh -c checking whether build environment is sane... yes checking for gawk... no checking for mawk... no checking for nawk... no checking for awk... awk checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... yes configure: error: *** --with-user=USER is missing Can anyone give me a solution? Or where to look for the problem? $ ./configure --help | grep user=USER --with-user=USER force execution to USER on client systems required
Re: HPUX 11.0 Install
LaValley, Brian E wrote: When I run the configure script I get the following error: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ./configure ... configure: error: *** --with-user=USER is missing Can anyone give me a solution? Or where to look for the problem? ./configure --with-user=amanda --with-group=... Look for a solution in docs/INSTALL. There is a very good xplanation the steps you need to take. -- Paul Bijnens, XplanationTel +32 16 397.511 Technologielaan 21 bus 2, B-3001 Leuven, BELGIUMFax +32 16 397.512 http://www.xplanation.com/ email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** * I think I've got the hang of it now: exit, ^D, ^C, ^\, ^Z, ^Q, F6, * * quit, ZZ, :q, :q!, M-Z, ^X^C, logoff, logout, close, bye, /bye, * * stop, end, F3, ~., ^]c, +++ ATH, disconnect, halt, abort, hangup, * * PF4, F20, ^X^X, :D::D, KJOB, F14-f-e, F8-e, kill -1 $$, shutdown, * * kill -9 1, Alt-F4, Ctrl-Alt-Del, AltGr-NumLock, Stop-A, ...* * ... Are you sure? ... YES ... Phew ... I'm out * ***
Re: HPUX 11.0 Install
Hi, LaValley, Brian E, on Donnerstag, 24. Juli 2003 at 14:58 you wrote to amanda-users: LBE Hello. LBE When I run the configure script I get the following error: LBE [EMAIL PROTECTED] ./configure LBE checking build system type... hppa2.0w-hp-hpux11.00 LBE checking host system type... hppa2.0w-hp-hpux11.00 LBE checking target system type... hppa2.0w-hp-hpux11.00 LBE checking for a BSD-compatible install... config/install-sh -c LBE checking whether build environment is sane... yes LBE checking for gawk... no LBE checking for mawk... no LBE checking for nawk... no LBE checking for awk... awk LBE checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... yes LBE configure: error: *** --with-user=USER is missing LBE Can anyone give me a solution? Or where to look for the problem? Read the docs/INSTALL-document. Under 1.1.F you will find that you have to specify which user and group you will run the dumps under. Apart from that it is generally recommended to read that file carefully. -- best regards, Stefan Stefan G. Weichinger mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Amanda with SMB
On Thu, Jul 24, 2003 at 10:00:04AM +0300, Shulov Leonid wrote: Hi 1. What client program I must load on windows XP host that Amanda do backup ? 2. If you know what RTFM - I be rewarding. Leonid None needed on the windows side, that is why some people like samba backups with amanda. For reading, amanda_source_directory/docs/SAMBA. -- Jon H. LaBadie [EMAIL PROTECTED] JG Computing 4455 Province Line Road(609) 252-0159 Princeton, NJ 08540-4322 (609) 683-7220 (fax)
Re: strange disk offline error
Joshua Baker-LePain said: snipped Yup, that's definitely the problem. Is amanda picking the right dump for your filesystem? You can tell by the output of ./configure (it might also be in the amandad*debug files -- I'm not sure). tar is nice for being so cross platform. If you can get that to go, it might be your better option. OK, I got gnu tar 1.13 compiled and working. However, I still get the disk offline error. Now in /tmp/amanda/sendsize... I see this which doesn't look good either: sendsize: debug 1 pid 15490 ruid 19 euid 19: start at Thu Jul 24 00:30:05 2003 sendsize: version 2.4.4 sendsize[15490]: time 0.009: waiting for any estimate child sendsize[15492]: time 0.009: calculating for amname '/', dirname '/', spindle -1sendsize[15492]: time 0.015: getting size via gnutar for / level 0 sendsize[15492]: time 0.016: spawning /usr/local/libexec/runtar in pipeline sendsize[15492]: argument list: /usr/local/bin/tar --create --file /dev/null --directory / --one-file-system --listed-incremental /usr/local/var/amanda/gnutar-lists/db.shcorp.com__0.new --sparse --ignore-failed-read --totals --exclude-from /tmp/amanda/sendsize._.20030724003005.exclude . sendsize[15492]: time 0.028: error [cannot find user backup in passwd file] sendsize[15492]: time 0.059: sendsize[15492]: time 0.060: . sendsize[15492]: estimate time for / level 0: 0.044 sendsize[15492]: no size line match in /usr/local/bin/tar output for / sendsize[15492]: . sendsize[15492]: estimate size for / level 0: -1 KB sendsize[15492]: time 0.061: waiting for /usr/local/bin/tar / child sendsize[15492]: time 0.061: after /usr/local/bin/tar / wait sendsize[15492]: time 0.061: done with amname '/', dirname '/', spindle -1 sendsize[15490]: time 0.061: child 15492 terminated normally Again I see cannot find user backup in passwd file. In looking at /etc, I noticed the passwd file is actually a symlink to a passwd file in another directory (For anyone who has SCO, why in GOD'S NAME do they do this symlink BS for everything? It is horrible!). Is this the only problem that's stopping me here, or is there anything else that needs fixing? -- Kurt Yoder Sport Health network administrator
Re: strange disk offline error
On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 at 10:26am, Kurt Yoder wrote tar is nice for being so cross platform. If you can get that to go, it might be your better option. OK, I got gnu tar 1.13 compiled and working. However, I still get the disk offline error. Now in /tmp/amanda/sendsize... I see this which doesn't look good either: tar 1.13 is Bad. Grab 1.13.25 from alpha.gnu.org. sendsize[15492]: time 0.028: error [cannot find user backup in passwd file] sendsize[15492]: time 0.059: sendsize[15492]: time 0.060: . sendsize[15492]: estimate time for / level 0: 0.044 sendsize[15492]: no size line match in /usr/local/bin/tar output for / Again I see cannot find user backup in passwd file. In looking at /etc, I noticed the passwd file is actually a symlink to a passwd file in another directory (For anyone who has SCO, why in GOD'S NAME do they do this symlink BS for everything? It is horrible!). Is this the only problem that's stopping me here, or is there anything else that needs fixing? I'm guessing that if you fix access to /etc/passwd, you'll be a lot closer to making this work. What are the owner and permissions on what /etc/passwd points to (and yes, that is brain dead)? -- Joshua Baker-LePain Department of Biomedical Engineering Duke University
Re: strange disk offline error
On Thu, Jul 24, 2003 at 10:26:30AM -0400, Kurt Yoder wrote: Again I see cannot find user backup in passwd file. In looking at /etc, I noticed the passwd file is actually a symlink to a passwd file in another directory (For anyone who has SCO, why in GOD'S NAME do they do this symlink BS for everything? It is horrible!). Is this the only problem that's stopping me here, or is there anything else that needs fixing? Not sure about your passwd problem, but this earlier line needs work. OK, I got gnu tar 1.13 compiled and working. However, I still get 1.13 is a known BAD version of gnutar for amanda. Get 1.13.19 or 1.13.25. Sorry I forget the url, but it is something like ftp://alpha.gnu.org. Check the archives, it is mentioned regularly. -- Jon H. LaBadie [EMAIL PROTECTED] JG Computing 4455 Province Line Road(609) 252-0159 Princeton, NJ 08540-4322 (609) 683-7220 (fax)
Re: HPUX 11.0 Install
On Thursday 24 July 2003 08:58, LaValley, Brian E wrote: Hello. When I run the configure script I get the following error: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ./configure checking build system type... hppa2.0w-hp-hpux11.00 checking host system type... hppa2.0w-hp-hpux11.00 checking target system type... hppa2.0w-hp-hpux11.00 checking for a BSD-compatible install... config/install-sh -c checking whether build environment is sane... yes checking for gawk... no checking for mawk... no checking for nawk... no checking for awk... awk checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... yes configure: error: *** --with-user=USER is missing Can anyone give me a solution? Or where to look for the problem? In most cases, you need to specify both the user and the group membership to the ./configure script. Here is the driver script I've been using for quite a while now: #!/bin/sh # since I'm always forgetting to su amanda... if [ `whoami` != 'amanda' ]; then echo echo Warning echo Amanda needs to be configured and built by the user amanda, echo but must be installed by user root. echo exit 1 fi make clean rm -f config.status config.cache ./configure --with-user=amanda \ --with-group=disk \ --with-owner=amanda \ --with-tape-device=/dev/nst0 \ --with-changer-device=/dev/sg1 \ --with-gnu-ld --prefix=/usr/local \ --with-debugging=/tmp/amanda-dbg/ \ --with-tape-server=coyote.coyote.den \ --with-amandahosts \ --with-configdir=/usr/local/etc/amanda make modify to suit. If you don't have a changer, remove that line. -- Cheers, Gene AMD [EMAIL PROTECTED] 320M [EMAIL PROTECTED] 512M 99.27% setiathome rank, not too shabby for a WV hillbilly Yahoo.com attornies please note, additions to this message by Gene Heskett are: Copyright 2003 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved.
Re: newbie problems
Hi I was successfully able to perform a backup yesterday,thanks all of your help. I have a couple of doubts (trivial I'm sure). 1.How can I restore just a few files from a complete backup, for testing. 2.I want to do I complete backup,once a week and theincremental backup the remaining days,howeverwhen I try to backup data for the first time on tape,should I specify to amanda to do fullbackup or it will only do it. 3. Can I get a good documentation for Amanda? Please help if you can Regards Yogish --Yogish.G.KAmerican Healthcare Solutions Inc405, South LincolnSteamboat Springs CO-80487Ph-970-870-6232 ( EXT 106) (office)Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: strange disk offline error
On Thursday 24 July 2003 10:26, Kurt Yoder wrote: Joshua Baker-LePain said: snipped Yup, that's definitely the problem. Is amanda picking the right dump for your filesystem? You can tell by the output of ./configure (it might also be in the amandad*debug files -- I'm not sure). tar is nice for being so cross platform. If you can get that to go, it might be your better option. OK, I got gnu tar 1.13 compiled and working. I certainly hope that version above is a typo. 1.13 is broken, you need 1.13-25, getting it from alpha.gnu.org. However, I still get the disk offline error. Now in /tmp/amanda/sendsize... I see this which doesn't look good either: sendsize: debug 1 pid 15490 ruid 19 euid 19: start at Thu Jul 24 00:30:05 2003 sendsize: version 2.4.4 sendsize[15490]: time 0.009: waiting for any estimate child sendsize[15492]: time 0.009: calculating for amname '/', dirname '/', spindle -1sendsize[15492]: time 0.015: getting size via gnutar for / level 0 sendsize[15492]: time 0.016: spawning /usr/local/libexec/runtar in pipeline sendsize[15492]: argument list: /usr/local/bin/tar --create --file /dev/null --directory / --one-file-system --listed-incremental /usr/local/var/amanda/gnutar-lists/db.shcorp.com__0.new --sparse --ignore-failed-read --totals --exclude-from /tmp/amanda/sendsize._.20030724003005.exclude . sendsize[15492]: time 0.028: error [cannot find user backup in passwd file] sendsize[15492]: time 0.059: sendsize[15492]: time 0.060: . sendsize[15492]: estimate time for / level 0: 0.044 sendsize[15492]: no size line match in /usr/local/bin/tar output for / sendsize[15492]: . sendsize[15492]: estimate size for / level 0: -1 KB sendsize[15492]: time 0.061: waiting for /usr/local/bin/tar / child sendsize[15492]: time 0.061: after /usr/local/bin/tar / wait sendsize[15492]: time 0.061: done with amname '/', dirname '/', spindle -1 sendsize[15490]: time 0.061: child 15492 terminated normally Again I see cannot find user backup in passwd file. In looking at /etc, I noticed the passwd file is actually a symlink to a passwd file in another directory (For anyone who has SCO, why in GOD'S NAME do they do this symlink BS for everything? It is horrible!). Is this the only problem that's stopping me here, or is there anything else that needs fixing? -- Cheers, Gene AMD [EMAIL PROTECTED] 320M [EMAIL PROTECTED] 512M 99.27% setiathome rank, not too shabby for a WV hillbilly Yahoo.com attornies please note, additions to this message by Gene Heskett are: Copyright 2003 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved.
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Re: newbie problems
On Thursday 24 July 2003 15:56, Yogish wrote: 1.How can I restore just a few files from a complete backup, for testing. amrecover is the tool you want there. 2. I want to do I complete backup,once a week and the incremental backup the remaining days Wow - this must be THE most FAQ. Although you can work hard to make amanda do that, you DON'T want to. You tell amanda WHAT you want to back up, and how often a full backup should be made, and how often you will do a backup run, and a few other things, and amanda shuffles things in her own way. however when I try to backup data for the first time on tape, should I specify to amanda to do full backup or it will only do it. When you add a new entry to the disklist, amanda will try to do a full backup of that entry at the next run, provided that it fits. 3. Can I get a good documentation for Amanda? There are the man pages, and there's a large amount of stuff on the web, and there's a chapter in a backup book which is about amanda and is available free on-line - follow your nose from www.amanda.org Please help if you can The backup gods help those who help themselves, so read what's out there. amanda has a none too shallow learning curve, but it's worth it. -- Niall
URGENT ASSISTANCE
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Re: newbie problems
On Thursday 24 July 2003 10:56, Yogish wrote: Hi I was successfully able to perform a backup yesterday,thanks all of your help. I have a couple of doubts (trivial I'm sure). 1.How can I restore just a few files from a complete backup, for testing. 2. I want to do I complete backup,once a week and the incremental backup the remaining days,however when I try to backup data for the first time on tape, should I specify to amanda to do full backup or it will only do it. 3. Can I get a good documentation for Amanda? Please help if you can Regards Yogish I'll let someone else discuss the recovery techniques, so I'll just address #2 above. There are also a few links to some pretty good help that others will no doubt post. Generally speaking, you will 'get along' with amanda a lot better if you let amanda do it her way. The primary difference in how amanda works vs the rest of the world is that amanda can adjust the backup schedueling with a target of using the same amount of tape per run, prefereably nearly all of it. That means that amanda will do some fulls, and some incrementals every run. This is why you set such things as dumpcycle to be the amount of time that amanda has in order to do a full backup of everything in your disklist. Set for 7 days, or 1 week, then amanda will attempt to get a full of everything in that 7 days. Then you have to tell amanda how many runs she has in that 7 days because some people don't run it on the weekends, so if you don't, then 'runspercycle 5' Then amanda needs to know how many tapes she can use at one time, this is 'runtapes' and is normally set to one unless you have both a changer so amanda can advance to the next tape, and enough tapes available. Then finally, one needs to have at least enough tapes in the pool to allow at least (for good practices anyway) 2 full runspercycle*runtapes*2 tapes, prefereably even a few more. This is called 'tapecycle'. When first starting up amanda, only expose in the disklist, one tapes worth of entries per run, this because amanda must do a full before she can do an incremental, and by starting amanda up with a starter schedule, amanda will get into 'balance' with the tape useage per run a couple of dumpcycles faster. Trying to make amanda do a full on friday night, and incrementals the rest of the week can be done, but not only wastes tapes by doing wildly differing sizes of backups depending on the run, and labeling the tapes for the day of the week you will find will be an exersize in futility. The tape useage will be out of step with the tape labels in 2 weeks or less, for any one of a hundred reasons. I'm just a home user, running dirt cheap DDS2 tapes in a 4 tape changer so I have: dumpcycle 7 days runspercycle 7 runtapes 1 tapecycle 28 This is adequate to cover around 33Gb of real data on 2 machines, with 40 some entries in the disklist, and using 90 or more percent of a 4 Gb DDS2 tape (hardware compression is off, software is on for selected disklist entries) each night. You will probably have more data, probably much more, so the tape drive and tape capacity would be scaled up accordingly. Since its an axiom of the business that tape speeds go up pretty much in step with the capacity, then the actual times to do these backups remains fairly consistent. With my old slow DDS2 setup, its about a 2.5 hour run each night. I mentioned hardware compression being turned off, and recommend that it be off for several reasons. 1. with it on, amanda's count of bytes fed to the drive is meaningless because the drive is modifying that invisibly to amanda. This means that to prevent hitting the EOT of the tape, you have to reduce the size of the tape in its tapetype by some fudge factor you can only guess. 2. With hardware off, and software being used on those DLE's that can be compressed (a directory full of .bz2;s, .gz's, and rpm's will not further compress and may even grow some) can be compressed better than the hardware can do, sometimes much better, so you use the tapetype sizeing for the native tape size. Amanda then knows how big the tape is, and can stuff it to the brim. The tradeoff of course is the cpu horsepower to do the compression. However this becomes a never mind when you can offload the compression to the client machine because then several compressors can be running in parallel, and the network bandwidth is reduced by the resultant smaller files being shipped back to the server. -- Cheers, Gene AMD [EMAIL PROTECTED] 320M [EMAIL PROTECTED] 512M 99.27% setiathome rank, not too shabby for a WV hillbilly Yahoo.com attornies please note, additions to this message by Gene Heskett are: Copyright 2003 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved.
Re: newbie problems
--On Thursday, July 24, 2003 08:56:29 -0600 Yogish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I was successfully able to perform a backup yesterday,thanks all of your help. I have a couple of doubts (trivial I'm sure). 1.How can I restore just a few files from a complete backup, for testing. If you have indexing enabled, amrecover is the easiest way to browse and restore individual files. There is also an example in the amrestore man page for doing an interactive restore, although amrestore seems (to me, anyway) more geared to restoring an entire filesystem. 2. I want to do I complete backup,once a week and the incremental backup the remaining days,however when I try to backup data for the first time on tape, should I specify to amanda to do full backup or it will only do it. If your dumpcycle is set to a week then Amanda will do this naturally (as long as you don't want all of the fulls done on the same day, that is much more difficult to accomplish and uses more time and tape). 3. Can I get a good documentation for Amanda? The Amanda chapter in 'Unix Backup Recovery' (a.k.a. 'The Chapter') is the most complete, but the FAQ-O-Matic and the mailing list archive are also very helpful. Frank Please help if you can Regards Yogish -- Yogish.G.K American Healthcare Solutions Inc 405, South Lincoln Steamboat Springs CO-80487 Ph-970-870-6232 ( EXT 106) (office) Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Frank Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Systems Administrator Voice: 512-374-4673 Hoover's Online Fax: 512-374-4501
Re: Estimate timeouts
Hi! When amanda uses tcp instead of udp for the backup, are all of the tcp connections made from the server to the client? How I I force amanda to use tcp instead of udp? I don't think you can force amandad to use TCP, but I'm not really much of an Amanda networking expert. Amanda distribution contains a file docs/PORT.USAGE where all this is explained far better than I ever could. I have had the backup fail during the day when I run it, but it usuaully fails at night. I think that the estimate times vary and that when the estimate time exceeds some firewall timeout value, then it fails because it no longer fits the iptables related rule. Can I use the tcp connections to get around this? Probably not, because TCP connections will also eventually time out. I've heard that newer implementations of netfilter have a special Amanda proxy module, but since I don't use Linux too much I haven't had a chance to try this. I think your best chance right now is not to rely on ip_conntrack for Amanda connections but rather allow all traffic between Amanda server and Amanda client regardless of tcp/udp state, opening the ports as specified in docs/PORT.USAGE. -- Toomas Aas | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.raad.tartu.ee/~toomas/ * Everyone has a photographic memory. Some don't have film.
Problems backing up large W2K drive
I'm needing to backup a Windows 2K server that has a large 46+GB shared 'D$' drive. This disk contains an application that has many little files and even under the best circumstances with purchased backup software it will take 30 to 36 hours to backup. I've managed to get this to 21 hours using a combination of Amanda-2.4.4, Samba-2.2.8a, and gnutar-1.13.25 to back up this beast. However, this is still not good enough (for management, of course). In searching the amanda-users and amanda-hackers archives, I found some mention of modifing sendsize.c to use calcsize for estimations. I don't really want to do this as it only effects the estimation phase for planner. I was hoping to use include or exclude options of gnutar but samba will not really play well in this game. I tried to divide the large shared drive into directories using the include option in both the disklist and in the dumptypes. Samba complains about this and gives error messages and quits. Then I tried using ex! clude. Samba will be ok with this option as long as you just exclude only one file or directory. This is not a good option either as I have many files or patterns I want to exclude (i.e.,./pagefile.sys, */*.tmp, or */*.zip). So, I thought of installing cygwin on this W2K machine with amanda client and trying this configuration. I am working through this implementation currently and am having some problems (I did get the host server to talk to the w2k, cygwin, amanda client machine, but had to stop at this point and got pulled off onto another project). My thought was I could at least bypass Samba and just use gnutar to backup the W2K client machine using exclude lists or files. Has anyone done this or something similar? If so, can you give me some advice on the best way to accomplish my objective - backing up large W2K shared partitions in the shortest time possible. Thanks in advance. Bob... -- Robert Zahn UNIX Systems Administrator Oklahoma City Community College S. May Avenue Oklahoma City, Ok 73159 [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] --
amrecover Problem
Hi I am trying to get into amrecover on the server, but it says the connection refused. I typed 'amrecover -C normal -s localhost'. I have also entered the name of the host on .amandahosts. Can anyone suggest why this problem might be occuring. I am not sure if amanda uses the ethernet interface to do recover,if this is not the case, then it should not encpunter any problem with Firewall settings. wainting for replies Yogish
Re: Problems backing up large W2K drive
Hi, Bob,
on July, 24th 2003 at 19:55 you wrote to amanda-users:
BZ I was hoping to use include or exclude options of gnutar but samba will not really
play well in
BZ this game. I tried to divide the large shared drive into directories using the
include option in
BZ both the disklist and in the dumptypes. Samba complains about this and gives error
messages and
BZ quits. Then I tried using exclude. Samba will be ok with this option as long as
you just exclude
BZ only one file or directory. This is not a good option either as I have many files
or patterns I
BZ want to exclude (i.e.,./pagefile.sys, */*.tmp, or */*.zip).
AFAIK, you can use multiple exclude-lines in a dumptype using Samba.
It just doesn´t like or accept exclude-lists.
Jon (H. LaBadie) wrote the following earlier this year:
smbclient will take multiple files to exclude on the command line, but not
a file argument listing files to exclude. So it was necessary to take the
list and convert it into command line arguments.
Read his full posting under (for example)
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amanda-users/message/41819.
After I read that I just implemented something like that in a customers amanda.conf
today.
Like:
define dumptype hugedisk {
program GNUTAR
exclude ./pagefile.sys
exclude */*.tmp
exclude */*.zip
other options here ...
}
Amcheck (2.4.4p1) returned no errors, I will see if it worked after the next
amdump tonight.
BZ So, I thought of installing cygwin on this W2K machine with amanda client and
BZ trying this configuration. I am working through this implementation currently
BZ and am having some problems (I did get
BZ the host server to talk to the w2k, cygwin, amanda client machine, but had to
BZ stop at this point and got pulled off onto another project). My thought was I
BZ could at least bypass Samba and just
BZ use gnutar to backup the W2K client machine using exclude lists or files. Has
BZ anyone done this or something similar?
Another idea would be to smbmount your windows-share to the
backup-host and GnuTar it right from there. Haven´t tried that by
myself, but read about that idea on the list.
--
best regards,
Stefan
Stefan G. Weichinger
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problems backing up large W2K drive
Hi, Stefan G. Weichinger,
on Donnerstag, 24. Juli 2003 at 20:47 you wrote to amanda-users:
SGW After I read that I just implemented something like that in a customers
amanda.conf
SGW today.
SGW Like:
SGW define dumptype hugedisk {
SGW program GNUTAR
SGW exclude ./pagefile.sys
SGW exclude */*.tmp
SGW exclude */*.zip
SGW other options here ...
SGW }
SGW Amcheck (2.4.4p1) returned no errors, I will see if it worked after the next
SGW amdump tonight.
Shame on me, it does NOT work, at least not on my test-machine right
here.
I just set up a little test-scenario trying to backup a WinXP-Share
excluding stuff like \RECYCLER and a directory named \Downloads.
The exclude line for \Downloads came first, so it was overridden by
the following exclude for \RECYCLER. Consequently \Downloads was not
excluded.
Maybe try the smbmount ...
Sorry.
--
best regards,
Stefan
Stefan G. Weichinger
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: amrecover Problem
--On Thursday, July 24, 2003 12:10:28 -0600 Yogish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I am trying to get into amrecover on the server, but it says the connection refused. I typed 'amrecover -C normal -s localhost'. I have also entered the name of the host on .amandahosts. Can anyone suggest why this problem might be occuring. I am not sure if amanda uses the ethernet interface to do recover,if this is not the case, then it should not encpunter any problem with Firewall settings. wainting for replies Yogish Do you have entries in inetd.conf (or xinetd if you are using that) for the amandaidx and amidxtape services? And did you remember to restart (x)inetd after adding them? Also check to see there is anything in your system logs about errors starting those processes. There's also the chance you have paranoid settings in your hosts.allow and hosts.denied files. Frank -- Frank Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Systems Administrator Voice: 512-374-4673 Hoover's Online Fax: 512-374-4501
Re: Problems backing up large W2K drive
Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
SGW define dumptype hugedisk {
SGW program GNUTAR
SGW exclude ./pagefile.sys
SGW exclude */*.tmp
SGW exclude */*.zip
SGW other options here ...
SGW }
When using multiple excludes only the last one is remembered, unless
you specify the append keyword to exclude like:
exclude append ./pagefile.sys
But!!! When using samba to backup a Windows share, the
specification GNUTAR does in fact not use gnutar, but the built
in tar in smbclient. And that one does not allow more than one
exclude statement.
Re: Problems backing up large W2K drive
Bob Zahn wrote: I'm needing to backup a Windows 2K server that has a large 46+GB shared 'D$' drive. This disk contains an application that has many little files and even under the best circumstances with purchased backup software it will take 30 to 36 hours to backup. I've managed to get this to 21 hours using a combination of Amanda-2.4.4, Samba-2.2.8a, and gnutar-1.13.25 to back up this beast. However, this Be aware than when using samba to backup a PC, you're in fact not using gnutar at all; you use the built in tar in smbclient. is still not good enough (for management, of course). In searching the amanda-users and amanda-hackers archives, I found some mention of modifing sendsize.c to use calcsize for estimations. I don't really want to do this as it only effects the estimation phase for And the estimation phase of smbclient is the superfast built in du. Because smbclient uses the archive bit to select files for incremental backup, the backuplevel is 1 at most. (So the sendsize only has to count for level 0 and level 1; while for normal gnutar sendsize could ask for level 0, level n and level n+1.) planner. I was hoping to use include or exclude options of gnutar but samba will not really play well in this game. I tried to divide the large shared drive into directories using the include option in both the disklist and in the dumptypes. Samba complains about this and The builtin tar in smbclient does not know about include. gives error messages and quits. Then I tried using ex! clude. Samba will be ok with this option as long as you just exclude only one file or directory. This is not a good option either as I have many files or patterns I want to exclude (i.e.,./pagefile.sys, */*.tmp, or */*.zip). So, I thought of installing cygwin on this W2K machine with amanda client and trying this configuration. I am working through this implementation currently and am having some problems (I did get the host server to talk to the w2k, cygwin, amanda client machine, but had to stop at this point and got pulled off onto another project). My thought was I could at least bypass Samba and just use gnutar to backup the W2K client machine using exclude lists or files. Has anyone done this or something similar? If so, can you give me some advice on the best way to accomplish my objective - backing up large W2K shared partitions in the shortest time possible. Thanks in advance. Bob... I stood once for the same problem, but I reversed the solution. I installed the files on a large Linux reiserfs (very good for zillion small files), and I do my backups using gnutar. The filesystem is shared with samba to the server that uses it. My backup time went down from over 5 hours to 1 hour 20 minutes for a full dump. Estimate time went down from 2 hours to 20 minutes. This was long before the cygwin port became available. So I never tried that path. It could be a valid path too. I'm interested in the result.
Re: Problems backing up large W2K drive
Hi, Paul, on Donnerstag, 24. Juli 2003 at 23:53 you wrote to amanda-users: PB When using multiple excludes only the last one is remembered, unless PB you specify the append keyword to exclude like: PB exclude append ./pagefile.sys PB But!!! When using samba to backup a Windows share, the PB specification GNUTAR does in fact not use gnutar, but the built PB in tar in smbclient. And that one does not allow more than one PB exclude statement. Thanx for the summary, Paul. In the meantime I tested out the behavior you describe. Maybe it should be pointed out clearer in the docs ... -- best regards, Stefan Stefan G. Weichinger mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problems backing up large W2K drive
Hi, Paul, on Freitag, 25. Juli 2003 at 00:06 you wrote to amanda-users: PB Be aware than when using samba to backup a PC, you're in fact not PB using gnutar at all; you use the built in tar in smbclient. Thanks for pointing that out. AFAIK it ain´t that clear from just reading /docs/SAMBA ... PB I stood once for the same problem, but I reversed the solution. PB I installed the files on a large Linux reiserfs (very good for zillion PB small files), and I do my backups using gnutar. PB The filesystem is shared with samba to the server that uses it. PB My backup time went down from over 5 hours to 1 hour 20 minutes for a PB full dump. Estimate time went down from 2 hours to 20 minutes. So you turned it over. Clever move ;-) The question is if Bob can do the same, givin up that W2K-box for a nice Samba-server ... PB This was long before the cygwin port became available. So I never PB tried that path. It could be a valid path too. I'm interested PB in the result. I am, too. best regards, Stefan Stefan G. Weichinger mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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