amanda failed to report via email
I have amanda running in a cron job, it suppose to backup 3 things. However, for some permission problem, 1 thing is failed to back up. I thought it would send the report via email to the email address specified in mailto no matter what. But that day, I didn't recieve the report via email. When I fix the permission problem, it successfully backup and I received email report everyday since then. What might cause the problem of sending email? is it a amanda bug? I doesn't make sense to me that amanda doesn't send report when there's a problem .
RE: amanda - errors with planner during run of amdump "missing estimate" - why?
> And the file ends here? > That means that "sendsize" somehow did not return anything. > Wasn't there a debug file named sendsize.DATETIME.debug? It is only 2 lines long. I assume that's not good. Here are the contents: sendsize: debug 1 pid 4936 ruid 80 euid 80: start at Fri Jul 16 11:03:27 2004 sendsize: version 2.4.4p2 This e-mail (including any attachments) is intended only for the recipient(s) named above. It may contain confidential or privileged information and should not be reviewed, copied, or otherwise used by any other person. If you have received this e-mail in error, please e-mail the message back to the sender at Innovative Systems, using the Reply button. Then, please delete it from your computer. We appreciate your assistance in correcting any error.
Re: amanda - errors with planner during run of amdump "missing estimate" - why?
Jeff Schwartz wrote: SERVICE sendsize OPTIONS features=feff9ffe0f;maxdumps=1;hostname=mike; GNUTAR /tmp 0 1970:1:1:0:0:0 -1 OPTIONS |;bsd-auth;compress-fast;no-record; amandad: time 0.000: sending ack: Amanda 2.4 ACK HANDLE 000-80600608 SEQ 1089990423 amandad: time 0.001: bsd security: remote host justin user amanda local user amanda amandad: time 0.001: amandahosts security check passed amandad: time 0.001: running service "/usr/local/libexec/sendsize" amandad: time 0.089: sending REP packet: Amanda 2.4 REP HANDLE 000-80600608 SEQ 1089990423 And the file ends here? That means that "sendsize" somehow did not return anything. Wasn't there a debug file named sendsize.DATETIME.debug? -- Paul Bijnens, XplanationTel +32 16 397.511 Technologielaan 21 bus 2, B-3001 Leuven, BELGIUMFax +32 16 397.512 http://www.xplanation.com/ email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** * I think I've got the hang of it now: exit, ^D, ^C, ^\, ^Z, ^Q, F6, * * quit, ZZ, :q, :q!, M-Z, ^X^C, logoff, logout, close, bye, /bye, * * stop, end, F3, ~., ^]c, +++ ATH, disconnect, halt, abort, hangup, * * PF4, F20, ^X^X, :D::D, KJOB, F14-f-e, F8-e, kill -1 $$, shutdown, * * kill -9 1, Alt-F4, Ctrl-Alt-Del, AltGr-NumLock, Stop-A, ...* * ... "Are you sure?" ... YES ... Phew ... I'm out * ***
RE: amanda - errors with planner during run of amdump "missing estimate" - why?
> Actually I was expecting this a little bit :-) > They should be different, because the path to gnutar is hardcoded in > amanda. When you compiled amanda the first time, gnutar was not there, > so there was no support for gnutar built into the program. > After installing gnutar, you should recompile amanda. > (Just on that client is ok). Surprisingly, I actually thought about that after I ran the earlier test (mainly because I saw that GNUTAR was UNDEF on my Solaris machine, but it worked anyway). I looked at the code and saw the GNUTAR dumptype will default to regular tar if it can't find gtar when amanda is configured (I think). Nonetheless, I'm happy to try any suggestions, so I recompiled the client and tried again. Here are my results: ___ sendsize.20040716110327.debug sendsize: debug 1 pid 4936 ruid 80 euid 80: start at Fri Jul 16 11:03:27 2004 sendsize: version 2.4.4p2___ amandad.20040716110327000.debug amandad: debug 1 pid 12388 ruid 80 euid 80: start at Fri Jul 16 11:03:27 2004 amandad: version 2.4.4p2 amandad: build: VERSION="Amanda-2.4.4p2" amandad:BUILT_DATE="Fri Jul 16 10:59:46 EDT 2004" amandad:BUILT_MACH="AIX mike 2 5 00085EDC4C00" CC="cc" amandad:CONFIGURE_COMMAND="'./configure' '--without-server' '--with-user=amanda' '--with-group=amanda' '--with-owner=amanda' '--with-tape-server-host=justin' '--with-tape-device=/dev/nst0'" amandad: paths: bindir="/usr/local/bin" sbindir="/usr/local/sbin" amandad:libexecdir="/usr/local/libexec" mandir="/usr/local/man" amandad:AMANDA_TMPDIR="/tmp/amanda" AMANDA_DBGDIR="/tmp/amanda" amandad:CONFIG_DIR="/usr/local/etc/amanda" DEV_PREFIX="/dev/" amandad:RDEV_PREFIX="/dev/r" DUMP="/usr/sbin/backup" amandad:RESTORE="/usr/sbin/restore" VDUMP=UNDEF VRESTORE=UNDEF amandad:XFSDUMP=UNDEF XFSRESTORE=UNDEF VXDUMP=UNDEF VXRESTORE=UNDEF amandad:SAMBA_CLIENT=UNDEF GNUTAR="/usr/bin/gtar" amandad:COMPRESS_PATH="/usr/bin/gzip" amandad:UNCOMPRESS_PATH="/usr/bin/gzip" LPRCMD="/usr/bin/lpr" amandad:MAILER="/usr/bin/Mail" amandad:listed_incr_dir="/usr/local/var/amanda/gnutar-lists" amandad: defs: DEFAULT_SERVER="mike" DEFAULT_CONFIG="DailySet1" amandad:DEFAULT_TAPE_SERVER="mike" DEFAULT_TAPE_DEVICE="/dev/nst0" amandad:AIX_BACKUP AIX_TAPEIO HAVE_SYSVSHM LOCKING=POSIX_FCNTL amandad:SETPGRP_VOID DEBUG_CODE AMANDA_DEBUG_DAYS=4 BSD_SECURITY amandad:USE_AMANDAHOSTS CLIENT_LOGIN="amanda" FORCE_USERID HAVE_GZIP amandad:COMPRESS_SUFFIX=".gz" COMPRESS_FAST_OPT="--fast" amandad:COMPRESS_BEST_OPT="--best" UNCOMPRESS_OPT="-dc" amandad: time 0.000: got packet: Amanda 2.4 REQ HANDLE 000-80600608 SEQ 1089990423 SECURITY USER amanda SERVICE sendsize OPTIONS features=feff9ffe0f;maxdumps=1;hostname=mike; GNUTAR /tmp 0 1970:1:1:0:0:0 -1 OPTIONS |;bsd-auth;compress-fast;no-record; amandad: time 0.000: sending ack: Amanda 2.4 ACK HANDLE 000-80600608 SEQ 1089990423 amandad: time 0.001: bsd security: remote host justin user amanda local user amanda amandad: time 0.001: amandahosts security check passed amandad: time 0.001: running service "/usr/local/libexec/sendsize" amandad: time 0.089: sending REP packet: Amanda 2.4 REP HANDLE 000-80600608 SEQ 1089990423 amandad: time 0.090: got packet: Amanda 2.4 ACK HANDLE 000-80600608 SEQ 1089990423 amandad: time 0.090: pid 12388 finish time Fri Jul 16 11:03:27 2004 ___ amandad.20040716110327.debug amandad: debug 1 pid 12386 ruid 80 euid 80: start at Fri Jul 16 11:03:27 2004 amandad: version 2.4.4p2 amandad: build: VERSION="Amanda-2.4.4p2" amandad:BUILT_DATE="Fri Jul 16 10:59:46 EDT 2004" amandad:BUILT_MACH="AIX mike 2 5 00085EDC4C00" CC="cc" amandad:CONFIGURE_COMMAND="'./configure' '--without-server' '--with-user=amanda' '--with-group=amanda' '--with-owner=amanda' '--with-tape-server-host=justin' '--with-tape-device=/dev/nst0'" amandad: paths: bindir="/usr/local/bin" sbindir="/usr/local/sbin" amandad:libexecdir="/usr/local/libexec" mandir="/usr/local/man" amandad:AMANDA_TMPDIR="/tmp/amanda" AMANDA_DBGDIR="/tmp/amanda" amandad:CONFIG_DIR="/usr/local/etc/amanda" DEV_PREFIX="/dev/" amandad:RDEV_PREFIX="/dev/r" DUMP="/usr/sbin/backup" amandad:RESTORE="/usr/sbin/restore" VDUMP=UNDEF VRESTORE=UNDEF amandad:XFSDUMP=UNDEF XFSRESTORE=UNDEF VXDUMP=UNDEF VXRESTORE=UNDEF amandad:SAMBA_CLIENT=UNDEF GNUTAR="/usr/bin/gtar" amandad:COMPRESS_PATH="/usr/bin/gzip" amandad:UNCOMPRESS_PATH="/usr/bin/gzip" LPRCMD="/usr/bin/lpr" amandad:MAILER="/usr/bin/Mail" amandad:listed_incr_dir="/usr/local/var/amanda
getting amanda to dump AFS
(I've sent this to the amanda-afs list, but I appear to be the only person other than Mitch actually on it, and he's apparently really busy :( I've installed the amanda-afs utilities on my AFS server/amanda client, and I've installed amanda (with afs patches) on the same. amcheck returns fine, amdump fails. My guess is that the gtar-wrapper.pl script which is *supposed* to get called from runtar is not actually getting called, since runtar doesn't know to call it. I've tried on the amanda ./configure line to specify --with-gnutar=/usr/sbin/gtar-wrapper.pl however, that resulted in: WARNING: *** /usr/sbin/gtar-wrapper.pl is not GNU tar, so it will not be used. Does anyone else here have amanda backing up AFS, and if so, can you help me along? Thanks, -- Seeya, Paul GPG Key fingerprint = 1660 FECC 5D21 D286 F853 E808 BB07 9239 53F1 28EE If you're not having fun, you're not doing it right!
Re: amanda - errors with planner during run of amdump "missing estimate" - why?
Jeff Schwartz wrote: But now the contents of the /tmp/amanda/*.debug files should at least be different. What is it now? Hi Paul, Thanks for your help. The contents of those files seems pretty similar to earlier runs. Here they are: Actually I was expecting this a little bit :-) They should be different, because the path to gnutar is hardcoded in amanda. When you compiled amanda the first time, gnutar was not there, so there was no support for gnutar built into the program. After installing gnutar, you should recompile amanda. (Just on that client is ok). amandad: debug 1 pid 25038 ruid 80 euid 80: start at Thu Jul 15 14:36:17 2004 amandad: version 2.4.4p2 amandad: build: VERSION="Amanda-2.4.4p2" amandad:BUILT_DATE="Wed Jul 7 10:59:02 EDT 2004" amandad:BUILT_MACH="AIX mike 2 5 00085EDC4C00" CC="cc" amandad:CONFIGURE_COMMAND="'./configure' '--with-user=amanda' '--with-group=amanda' '--with-tape-server=justin' '--without-server' '--with-owner=amanda' '--with-tape-device=/dev/nst0' '--with-amandahosts'" amandad: paths: bindir="/usr/local/bin" sbindir="/usr/local/sbin" amandad:libexecdir="/usr/local/libexec" mandir="/usr/local/man" amandad:AMANDA_TMPDIR="/tmp/amanda" AMANDA_DBGDIR="/tmp/amanda" amandad:CONFIG_DIR="/usr/local/etc/amanda" DEV_PREFIX="/dev/" amandad:RDEV_PREFIX="/dev/r" DUMP="/usr/sbin/backup" amandad:RESTORE="/usr/sbin/restore" VDUMP=UNDEF VRESTORE=UNDEF amandad:XFSDUMP=UNDEF XFSRESTORE=UNDEF VXDUMP=UNDEF VXRESTORE=UNDEF amandad:SAMBA_CLIENT=UNDEF GNUTAR=UNDEF Note: GNUTAR=UNDEF -- Paul Bijnens, XplanationTel +32 16 397.511 Technologielaan 21 bus 2, B-3001 Leuven, BELGIUMFax +32 16 397.512 http://www.xplanation.com/ email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** * I think I've got the hang of it now: exit, ^D, ^C, ^\, ^Z, ^Q, F6, * * quit, ZZ, :q, :q!, M-Z, ^X^C, logoff, logout, close, bye, /bye, * * stop, end, F3, ~., ^]c, +++ ATH, disconnect, halt, abort, hangup, * * PF4, F20, ^X^X, :D::D, KJOB, F14-f-e, F8-e, kill -1 $$, shutdown, * * kill -9 1, Alt-F4, Ctrl-Alt-Del, AltGr-NumLock, Stop-A, ...* * ... "Are you sure?" ... YES ... Phew ... I'm out * ***
Re: Still having problems with cygwin...
Should I be sending this to amanda-hackers? Thanks, Ricky
RE: amanda - errors with planner during run of amdump "missing estimate" - why?
> But now the contents of the /tmp/amanda/*.debug files should at least > be different. What is it now? Hi Paul, Thanks for your help. The contents of those files seems pretty similar to earlier runs. Here they are: sendsize.20040715143617.debug sendsize: debug 1 pid 32144 ruid 80 euid 80: start at Thu Jul 15 14:36:17 2004 sendsize: version 2.4.4p2 amandad.20040715143617.debug amandad: debug 1 pid 25038 ruid 80 euid 80: start at Thu Jul 15 14:36:17 2004 amandad: version 2.4.4p2 amandad: build: VERSION="Amanda-2.4.4p2" amandad:BUILT_DATE="Wed Jul 7 10:59:02 EDT 2004" amandad:BUILT_MACH="AIX mike 2 5 00085EDC4C00" CC="cc" amandad:CONFIGURE_COMMAND="'./configure' '--with-user=amanda' '--with-group=amanda' '--with-tape-server=justin' '--without-server' '--with-owner=amanda' '--with-tape-device=/dev/nst0' '--with-amandahosts'" amandad: paths: bindir="/usr/local/bin" sbindir="/usr/local/sbin" amandad:libexecdir="/usr/local/libexec" mandir="/usr/local/man" amandad:AMANDA_TMPDIR="/tmp/amanda" AMANDA_DBGDIR="/tmp/amanda" amandad:CONFIG_DIR="/usr/local/etc/amanda" DEV_PREFIX="/dev/" amandad:RDEV_PREFIX="/dev/r" DUMP="/usr/sbin/backup" amandad:RESTORE="/usr/sbin/restore" VDUMP=UNDEF VRESTORE=UNDEF amandad:XFSDUMP=UNDEF XFSRESTORE=UNDEF VXDUMP=UNDEF VXRESTORE=UNDEF amandad:SAMBA_CLIENT=UNDEF GNUTAR=UNDEF amandad:COMPRESS_PATH="/usr/bin/gzip" amandad:UNCOMPRESS_PATH="/usr/bin/gzip" LPRCMD="/usr/bin/lpr" amandad:MAILER="/usr/bin/Mail" amandad:listed_incr_dir="/usr/local/var/amanda/gnutar-lists" amandad: defs: DEFAULT_SERVER="mike" DEFAULT_CONFIG="DailySet1" amandad:DEFAULT_TAPE_SERVER="justin" amandad:DEFAULT_TAPE_DEVICE="/dev/nst0" AIX_BACKUP AIX_TAPEIO amandad:HAVE_SYSVSHM LOCKING=POSIX_FCNTL SETPGRP_VOID DEBUG_CODE amandad:AMANDA_DEBUG_DAYS=4 BSD_SECURITY USE_AMANDAHOSTS amandad:CLIENT_LOGIN="amanda" FORCE_USERID HAVE_GZIP amandad:COMPRESS_SUFFIX=".gz" COMPRESS_FAST_OPT="--fast" amandad:COMPRESS_BEST_OPT="--best" UNCOMPRESS_OPT="-dc" amandad: time 0.000: got packet: Amanda 2.4 REQ HANDLE 000-60400608 SEQ 1089916790 SECURITY USER amanda SERVICE noop OPTIONS features=feff9ffe0f; amandad: time 0.000: sending ack: Amanda 2.4 ACK HANDLE 000-60400608 SEQ 1089916790 amandad: time 0.001: bsd security: remote host justin user amanda local user amanda amandad: time 0.001: amandahosts security check passed amandad: time 0.001: running service "noop" amandad: time 0.011: sending REP packet: Amanda 2.4 REP HANDLE 000-60400608 SEQ 1089916790 OPTIONS features=feff9ffe0f; amandad: time 0.012: got packet: Amanda 2.4 ACK HANDLE 000-60400608 SEQ 1089916790 amandad: time 0.012: pid 25038 finish time Thu Jul 15 14:36:17 2004 amandad.20040715143617000.debug amandad: debug 1 pid 25040 ruid 80 euid 80: start at Thu Jul 15 14:36:17 2004 amandad: version 2.4.4p2 amandad: build: VERSION="Amanda-2.4.4p2" amandad:BUILT_DATE="Wed Jul 7 10:59:02 EDT 2004" amandad:BUILT_MACH="AIX mike 2 5 00085EDC4C00" CC="cc" amandad:CONFIGURE_COMMAND="'./configure' '--with-user=amanda' '--with-group=amanda' '--with-tape-server=justin' '--without-server' '--with-owner=amanda' '--with-tape-device=/dev/nst0' '--with-amandahosts'" amandad: paths: bindir="/usr/local/bin" sbindir="/usr/local/sbin" amandad:libexecdir="/usr/local/libexec" mandir="/usr/local/man" amandad:AMANDA_TMPDIR="/tmp/amanda" AMANDA_DBGDIR="/tmp/amanda" amandad:CONFIG_DIR="/usr/local/etc/amanda" DEV_PREFIX="/dev/" amandad:RDEV_PREFIX="/dev/r" DUMP="/usr/sbin/backup" amandad:RESTORE="/usr/sbin/restore" VDUMP=UNDEF VRESTORE=UNDEF amandad:XFSDUMP=UNDEF XFSRESTORE=UNDEF VXDUMP=UNDEF VXRESTORE=UNDEF amandad:SAMBA_CLIENT=UNDEF GNUTAR=UNDEF amandad:COMPRESS_PATH="/usr/bin/gzip" amandad:UNCOMPRESS_PATH="/usr/bin/gzip" LPRCMD="/usr/bin/lpr" amandad:MAILER="/usr/bin/Mail" amandad:listed_incr_dir="/usr/local/var/amanda/gnutar-lists" amandad: defs: DEFAULT_SERVER="mike" DEFAULT_CONFIG="DailySet1" amandad:DEFAULT_TAPE_SERVER="justin" amandad:DEFAULT_TAPE_DEVICE="/dev/nst0" AIX_BACKUP AIX_TAPEIO amandad:HAVE_SYSVSHM LOCKING=POSIX_FCNTL SETPGRP_VOID DEBUG_CODE amandad:AMANDA_DEBUG_DAYS=4 BSD_SECURITY USE_AMANDAHOSTS amandad:CLIENT_LOGIN="amanda" FORCE_USERID HAVE_GZIP amandad:COMPRESS_SUFFIX=".gz" COMPRESS_FAST_OPT="--fast" amandad:COMPRESS_BEST_OPT="--best" UNCOMPRESS_OPT="-dc" amandad: time 0.000: got packet: Amanda 2.4 REQ H
Re: Disklist
Kaushal Shriyan wrote: Dear Paul Bijnens I'm not married to Amanda :-) While I'm waiting while some of my heavy program finish, I like to respond to posts, where I believe I can help. This little remark just to say that others may respond too. (Amanda-hackers is appropriate for this post, I removed it.) I wanted to know some more things qualifier used in the disklist file of amanda, At present i am using comp-root-tar to backup my amanda client are there more qualifiers which can be used in the disklist file From "man amanda", section DISKLIST: hostname diskname [ diskdevice ] dumptype [ spindle [ interface ] ] And dumptype itself is explained the "DUMPTYPE SECTION". (I'm not gonna copy/paste the man page here.) To have a look at the different possibilities to use these, have a look in the docs/disklist file where you find many examples. -- Paul Bijnens, XplanationTel +32 16 397.511 Technologielaan 21 bus 2, B-3001 Leuven, BELGIUMFax +32 16 397.512 http://www.xplanation.com/ email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** * I think I've got the hang of it now: exit, ^D, ^C, ^\, ^Z, ^Q, F6, * * quit, ZZ, :q, :q!, M-Z, ^X^C, logoff, logout, close, bye, /bye, * * stop, end, F3, ~., ^]c, +++ ATH, disconnect, halt, abort, hangup, * * PF4, F20, ^X^X, :D::D, KJOB, F14-f-e, F8-e, kill -1 $$, shutdown, * * kill -9 1, Alt-F4, Ctrl-Alt-Del, AltGr-NumLock, Stop-A, ...* * ... "Are you sure?" ... YES ... Phew ... I'm out * ***
Re: Disklist
On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 at 4:15pm, Kaushal Shriyan wrote > I wanted to know some more things qualifier used in the disklist file of > amanda, At present i am using comp-root-tar to backup my > amanda client are there more qualifiers which can be used in the > disklist file Please just email such questions to the amanda-users list. This is off topic for amanda-hackers, and sending a copy straight to Paul is not really necessary. If you're asking what I think you're asking, there are more dumptypes defined in the sample amanda.conf. You can also define your own in there. -- Joshua Baker-LePain Department of Biomedical Engineering Duke University
Re: list of current live tapes
On Jul 15, 2004, at 9:53 PM, Jamie Wilkinson wrote: This one time, at band camp, Jamie Wilkinson wrote: So I'm wondering if there's a amadmin command or somesuch that we can use that'll tell us which tapes are in the set of tapes required to do a full restore from, i.e. for all DLEs (I think that's the correct term) the tapes that hold that image back to the most recent level 0, inclusive. I am super grateful for those posters that follow-up with conclusions and/or solutions... That's totally awesome. And this is an interesting topic, too. Great question! ... I found that amadmin export's stats field lists only those tapes that have not yet been superceded, i.e. the latest level 0, any level 1s after that, etc, which is exactly what I need: /usr/sbin/amadmin foo export | grep stats | cut -f8 -d' ' | sort | uniq Are we sure that this answers the question that was asked? i.e. is it the correct answer in limited number of cases but not all cases? Is your test case a coincidence? This is certainly motivating me to take a closer look at my tapes. I thought I could restore in much fewer tapes than what that pipeline indicates. However, it's late and I'm tired, so I may not be grokking this. Cheers DK
Disklist
Dear Paul Bijnens I wanted to know some more things qualifier used in the disklist file of amanda, At present i am using comp-root-tar to backup my amanda client are there more qualifiers which can be used in the disklist file Your early response is highly appreciated -- Regards, Kaushal Shriyan Technical Engineer Red Hat India Pvt. Ltd. Tel : +91-22-22881326/27 Fax : +91-22-22881318 Cell : +91-9820367783
Re: disklist and whitespaces
Alexander Jolk wrote: Then create a symlink to that directory with a simple name from somewhere else and backup that symlink (not the directory containing it, but the link itself). So brilliantly simple and obvious that I didn't think of it 8-) I still believe amanda should deal with such filenames properly, but this workaround is more than ok with me. Tested it today and it appears to be fine. Thanks, Andrea. -- Homepage: http://andrea.borgia.bo.it /Amateur radio: IZ4FHT A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail?
Re: amanda - errors with planner during run of amdump "missing estimate" - why?
Jeff Schwartz wrote: I'm going the silly way. I forgot all about dump only working on filesystems (a lesson I learned last year). I was using a file just as a test. Nonetheless, I changed my disklist to backup /dev/hd3 on mike and I get similar results. I thought that was going to be the answer for sure because I see that I'm using gtar on my Solaris machine and dump on the AIX. I just installed gnu tar on my AIX machine and I tried again using GNUTAR instead of DUMP. I also changed what I'm backing up on mike from /dev/hd3 to /tmp. Similar response. Missing estimate. But now the contents of the /tmp/amanda/*.debug files should at least be different. What is it now? -- Paul Bijnens, XplanationTel +32 16 397.511 Technologielaan 21 bus 2, B-3001 Leuven, BELGIUMFax +32 16 397.512 http://www.xplanation.com/ email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** * I think I've got the hang of it now: exit, ^D, ^C, ^\, ^Z, ^Q, F6, * * quit, ZZ, :q, :q!, M-Z, ^X^C, logoff, logout, close, bye, /bye, * * stop, end, F3, ~., ^]c, +++ ATH, disconnect, halt, abort, hangup, * * PF4, F20, ^X^X, :D::D, KJOB, F14-f-e, F8-e, kill -1 $$, shutdown, * * kill -9 1, Alt-F4, Ctrl-Alt-Del, AltGr-NumLock, Stop-A, ...* * ... "Are you sure?" ... YES ... Phew ... I'm out * ***