getting information regarding tape drives
hello, I have to do some research and compare different backup alternative for our network. So far I am convince that Amada would be the application to do the backup for us. Yet, I am not sure about the hardware - tape drive might also be a jukebox, but I could not find a good site that compares between the different alternatives. Can someone recommend good website, white papers etc, I am quit new in doing backups and am locking for alternative that would be reliable, performance effective (time, easy to maintain, compatible with Amanda) and cost effective. Thanks, gil
Re: a problem backing up a window machine
Gil Naveh wrote: Thanks much Paul, Your English is quit good and eventually I successfully run the amcheck on the window box :) Yet, I was not able to back up a shared folder on a window box. Is it possible to backup a shared folder instead of a full drive like: //machine_name/shared_folder instead of //machine_name/c$ and if so what is the syntax? The syntax is exactly the same; you have to specify the sharename instead of the (default administrative share) "D$" of course. And the share must be accessible by the user. But is it a syntax problem? You said amcheck did not complain. What is the error message then? -- Paul Bijnens, XplanationTel +32 16 397.511 Technologielaan 21 bus 2, B-3001 Leuven, BELGIUMFax +32 16 397.512 http://www.xplanation.com/ email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** * I think I've got the hang of it now: exit, ^D, ^C, ^\, ^Z, ^Q, F6, * * quit, ZZ, :q, :q!, M-Z, ^X^C, logoff, logout, close, bye, /bye, * * stop, end, F3, ~., ^]c, +++ ATH, disconnect, halt, abort, hangup, * * PF4, F20, ^X^X, :D::D, KJOB, F14-f-e, F8-e, kill -1 $$, shutdown, * * kill -9 1, Alt-F4, Ctrl-Alt-Del, AltGr-NumLock, Stop-A, ...* * ... "Are you sure?" ... YES ... Phew ... I'm out * ***
getting information regarding tape drives
hello, I have to do some research and compare different backup alternative for our network. So far I am convince that Amada would be the application to do the backup for us. Yet, I am not sure about the hardware - tape drive might also be a jukebox, but I could not find a good site that compares between the different alternatives. Can someone recommend good website, white papers etc, I am quit new in doing backups and am locking for alternative that would be reliable, performance effective (time, easy to maintain, compatible with Amanda) and cost effective. Thanks, gil
RE: a problem backing up a window machine
Thanks much Paul, Your English is quit good and eventually I successfully run the amcheck on the window box :) Yet, I was not able to back up a shared folder on a window box. Is it possible to backup a shared folder instead of a full drive like: //machine_name/shared_folder instead of //machine_name/c$ and if so what is the syntax? Thx, gil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Paul Bijnens Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2004 5:23 PM To: Gil Naveh Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: a problem backing up a window machine Gil Naveh wrote: > Thanks for the help. > However, when I am following through the example you gave me. > ACA I updated the /etc/amandapass and I have created a domain account with > admin privileges. > Yet, when I run the command > smbclient /etc/amandapass //machine_name/c$ user%passwd mydomain > I get the following error message: > session setup failed: NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE > Any idea why and how to debug it? I know my english is not very good (actually it is "quiet" bad, as I used to say), but when I follow my example the command becomes: smbclient '//machine_name/c$' -U user%passwd -W mydomain Note: - there is no mention of /etc/amandapass, that's is the file where amanda gets the information to fill in here - there are single quotes around the sharename, otherwise the dollar-sign would give trouble in the shell - there is a "-U" string before the user and the "-W" string before the domain; I hope you do understand the basic conventions used in unix command line program to give options. - if the password contains any special characters for the shell, then you need quotes around here too. > > Thanks much, > gil > > -Original Message- > From: Paul Bijnens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2004 3:56 AM > To: Gil Naveh > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: a problembacking up a window machine > > > Gil Naveh wrote: > >>Does it means that I have not configured Samba currectly? >>Any examples on how to test Samba are mostly welcome > > > In /etc/amandapass you find lines like: > > Hostname+share username%Password DOMAIN > === = = > //homeros/d$amanda%secret MYDOMAIN > > > This implies that you have a you have a MS-Windows PC > named "homeros", which is part of the domain "MYDOMAIN", > and you have created a domainaccount with administrative > priviledges named "amanda", wich password "secret". > > To test this with smbclient, do: > > smbclient '//homeros/d$' -U 'amanda%secret' -W MYDOMAIN > > And you should get the "smb: >"-prompt, and type e.g. "dir" > to list the files. > > If you add on each PC a local user instead of the domain user, > then you should not add the MYDOMAIN value to /etc/amandapass, > and test without the "-W MYDOMAIN" option for smbclient, of course. > -- Paul Bijnens, XplanationTel +32 16 397.511 Technologielaan 21 bus 2, B-3001 Leuven, BELGIUMFax +32 16 397.512 http://www.xplanation.com/ email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** * I think I've got the hang of it now: exit, ^D, ^C, ^\, ^Z, ^Q, F6, * * quit, ZZ, :q, :q!, M-Z, ^X^C, logoff, logout, close, bye, /bye, * * stop, end, F3, ~., ^]c, +++ ATH, disconnect, halt, abort, hangup, * * PF4, F20, ^X^X, :D::D, KJOB, F14-f-e, F8-e, kill -1 $$, shutdown, * * kill -9 1, Alt-F4, Ctrl-Alt-Del, AltGr-NumLock, Stop-A, ...* * ... "Are you sure?" ... YES ... Phew ... I'm out * ***
Exabyte VXA-2 PacketLoader
Has anyone had any experience running Amanda with the Exabyte VXA-2 PacketLoader? I have ran Amanda with a single VXA-2 drive and it has preformed well. Thanks, Joe Benson Net Deposit
Re: Interesting hardware
On Tuesday 14 December 2004 20:26, Jon LaBadie wrote: > Iomega, of Zip-Drive fame, has a new removable harddrive format called > "Rev". It currently is 35GB capacity. That is not the interesting > hardware. I beg to differ; most of Iomega's products are "interesting" in the Chinese-curse sense of the word. We took to referring to a friend's Jaz drive as the "WORN drive" - write once, read never. -- Kirk Strauser pgpgISjZ8XvKN.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Interesting hardware
On Wed, 15 Dec 2004, Jon LaBadie wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 15, 2004 at 03:24:37PM +0100, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> > On Wed, 15 Dec 2004, Jon LaBadie wrote:
> > > On Wed, Dec 15, 2004 at 08:36:47AM +, Gavin Henry wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday 15 Dec 2004 02:26, Jon LaBadie wrote:
> > > > > Iomega, of Zip-Drive fame, has a new removable
> > > > > harddrive format called "Rev". It currently
> > > > > is 35GB capacity. That is not the interesting
> > > > > hardware.
> > > > >
> > > > > The interesting item is they have comeout with
> > > > > a 10 drive autoloader. So now you can backup
> > > > > to a harddrive that can be removed to offsite
> > > > > storage and can automatically change drives
> > > > > for each dump.
> > > >
> > > > How much and what sort of throughput would you get?
> > >
> > > I have no idea, never used or saw one, just a "first-look"
> > > in a trade rag.
> > >
> > > A visit to the iomega website is in order if further interested.
> >
> > I did found the Rev on their website, but nothing about a 10-drive
> > autoloader?
> >
>
> I just went to iomega.com and did locate it. One possible difference, the
> first webpage gave me geographical choices. I picked "North America".
That's it! Of course I picked `Europe', and the autoloader is missing from the
Rev product page over there. If you pick `North America', it's easily found...
Gr{oetje,eeting}s,
Geert
--
Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But
when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that.
-- Linus Torvalds
Re: Interesting hardware
On Wed, Dec 15, 2004 at 03:24:37PM +0100, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: > On Wed, 15 Dec 2004, Jon LaBadie wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 15, 2004 at 08:36:47AM +, Gavin Henry wrote: > > > On Wednesday 15 Dec 2004 02:26, Jon LaBadie wrote: > > > > Iomega, of Zip-Drive fame, has a new removable > > > > harddrive format called "Rev". It currently > > > > is 35GB capacity. That is not the interesting > > > > hardware. > > > > > > > > The interesting item is they have comeout with > > > > a 10 drive autoloader. So now you can backup > > > > to a harddrive that can be removed to offsite > > > > storage and can automatically change drives > > > > for each dump. > > > > > > How much and what sort of throughput would you get? > > > > I have no idea, never used or saw one, just a "first-look" > > in a trade rag. > > > > A visit to the iomega website is in order if further interested. > > I did found the Rev on their website, but nothing about a 10-drive autoloader? > I just went to iomega.com and did locate it. One possible difference, the first webpage gave me geographical choices. I picked "North America". Using their search tool for "autoloader 1000" then gave me many hits. Here is a horrid one -- got to learn to use "tinyurl" :) http://www.iomega.com/na/products/product_detail.jsp ?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=21365191&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id =16006169&ASSORTMENT%3C%3East_id=63191 That is one long url I've split. The original had no whitespace. -- Jon H. LaBadie [EMAIL PROTECTED] JG Computing 4455 Province Line Road(609) 252-0159 Princeton, NJ 08540-4322 (609) 683-7220 (fax)
Re: Exclude may not be working
On Wed, Dec 15, 2004 at 02:27:09PM +0400, Madhvi Gokool wrote: > Hi > My amanda backup server has the following filesystem structure : - > >/ >| > terrasky > | > tsfileserver tslibrary amandaholdingdisk > > As part of daily backup , /terrasky is backed up (level 0) with the exclude > file containing tslibrary and amandaholdingdisk . This works perfectly and > I have around 6 GB of data written to tape. > > tslibrary is a nfsmounted from another server sa03 > > During my Weeklybackup, I maintain the line /terrasky in my disklist and > have the same dumptype as for Daily bkup. > When I run amdump WeeklySet1 , and run amstatus, the estimate for /terrasky > is found to be 11 GB but when /terrasky is dumped to disk the size increases > to 23 GB . Now, I know that /tslibrary from sa03 of approx 12 GB of data > was just dumped to disk before sa01 :/terrasky . > How do I bypass this problem as it seems that amandaholdingdisk is also > being backed up ? > If I understand correctly, /terrasky is in the disklist of both configs (daily and weekly) but is not backing up in similar fashion. I'd first check the configs for differences. Here is one quick and dirty partial check that might catch some overlooked variations: $ amadmin disklist server_host_name /terrasky > /tmp/daily $ amadmin disklist server_host_name /terrasky > /tmp/weekly $ diff /tmp/daily /tmp/weekly ... $ rm /tmp/daily /tmp/weekly # when done :) -- Jon H. LaBadie [EMAIL PROTECTED] JG Computing 4455 Province Line Road(609) 252-0159 Princeton, NJ 08540-4322 (609) 683-7220 (fax)
Re: Interesting hardware
On Wed, 15 Dec 2004, Jon LaBadie wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 15, 2004 at 08:36:47AM +, Gavin Henry wrote:
> > On Wednesday 15 Dec 2004 02:26, Jon LaBadie wrote:
> > > Iomega, of Zip-Drive fame, has a new removable
> > > harddrive format called "Rev". It currently
> > > is 35GB capacity. That is not the interesting
> > > hardware.
> > >
> > > The interesting item is they have comeout with
> > > a 10 drive autoloader. So now you can backup
> > > to a harddrive that can be removed to offsite
> > > storage and can automatically change drives
> > > for each dump.
> >
> > How much and what sort of throughput would you get?
>
> I have no idea, never used or saw one, just a "first-look"
> in a trade rag.
>
> A visit to the iomega website is in order if further interested.
I did found the Rev on their website, but nothing about a 10-drive autoloader?
Gr{oetje,eeting}s,
Geert
--
Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But
when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that.
-- Linus Torvalds
Re: Interesting hardware
On Wed, Dec 15, 2004 at 08:36:47AM +, Gavin Henry wrote: > On Wednesday 15 Dec 2004 02:26, Jon LaBadie wrote: > > Iomega, of Zip-Drive fame, has a new removable > > harddrive format called "Rev". It currently > > is 35GB capacity. That is not the interesting > > hardware. > > > > The interesting item is they have comeout with > > a 10 drive autoloader. So now you can backup > > to a harddrive that can be removed to offsite > > storage and can automatically change drives > > for each dump. > > How much and what sort of throughput would you get? I have no idea, never used or saw one, just a "first-look" in a trade rag. A visit to the iomega website is in order if further interested. >>> End of included message <<< -- Jon H. LaBadie [EMAIL PROTECTED] JG Computing 4455 Province Line Road(609) 252-0159 Princeton, NJ 08540-4322 (609) 683-7220 (fax)
Exclude may not be working
Hi My amanda backup server has the following filesystem structure : - / | terrasky | tsfileserver tslibrary amandaholdingdisk As part of daily backup , /terrasky is backed up (level 0) with the exclude file containing tslibrary and amandaholdingdisk . This works perfectly and I have around 6 GB of data written to tape. tslibrary is a nfsmounted from another server sa03 During my Weeklybackup, I maintain the line /terrasky in my disklist and have the same dumptype as for Daily bkup. When I run amdump WeeklySet1 , and run amstatus, the estimate for /terrasky is found to be 11 GB but when /terrasky is dumped to disk the size increases to 23 GB . Now, I know that /tslibrary from sa03 of approx 12 GB of data was just dumped to disk before sa01 :/terrasky . How do I bypass this problem as it seems that amandaholdingdisk is also being backed up ? regds madhvi
Re: Interesting hardware
On Wednesday 15 Dec 2004 02:26, Jon LaBadie wrote: > Iomega, of Zip-Drive fame, has a new removable > harddrive format called "Rev". It currently > is 35GB capacity. That is not the interesting > hardware. > > The interesting item is they have comeout with > a 10 drive autoloader. So now you can backup > to a harddrive that can be removed to offsite > storage and can automatically change drives > for each dump. How much and what sort of throughput would you get? -- Kind Regards, Gavin Henry. Managing Director. T +44 (0) 1467 624141 M +44 (0) 7930 323266 F +44 (0) 1224 742001 E [EMAIL PROTECTED] Open Source. Open Solutions(tm). http://www.suretecsystems.com/ pgpJSzRqwUo1M.pgp Description: PGP signature
