Re: AMLABEL

2005-02-08 Thread Paul Bijnens
Jon LaBadie wrote:
With the ultrium it is less important about considering HW or SW
compression.  But be aware that on Solaris whether HW compression
is turned on or not is determined by the device you choose.  You
will find lots of /dev/rmt/0xyz devices.  The xyz determines
the properties of the device the driver will set upon opening it.
Don't be fooled into assumptions about the various devices.  The
c device is listed as compressed.  But that is the conventional
use.  There is no certainty that it turns compression on for every
device, or that devices without the c are no compression.  You
will even have a c device for drives that are not capable of
HW compression ;-)  Only way to tell is check the docs for the
drive and settings for the driver.  And then I'd check it if I
could.
Indeed.
And check the file st.init, where the letters get their meaning.

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Re: client version varies from server

2005-02-08 Thread Don Carlton
On Mon, 7 Feb 2005 22:01:32 -0500
 Gene Heskett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Monday 07 February 2005 14:40, Don Carlton wrote:
 On my amanda server (redhat 7.3) I'm running amanda-server-2.4.2p2-7
  and on the client I'm running amanda-client-2.4.4p1-0.3E (RedHat
  ES). I keep getting selfcheck request timed out when I try to run
  amcheck on the server? Is this caused by the different versions??
 
 I've never seen that be the case.  Normally when you get a selfcheck 
 request timeout, something has gone gaga in the networking or the 
 server setup.  Is this a new install?

The client is a new install.

 
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Re: client version varies from server

2005-02-08 Thread Don Carlton
On Mon, 7 Feb 2005 15:46:20 -0600
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 The message indicates that the self-check portion of the amcheck command 
 timed out while communicating with either itself or the client. Make sure 
 that xinetd configuration files are set up correctly to respond to the 
 Amanda commands sent over the Amanda UDP port.
 
 1. Check your /etc/services file on each machine to ensure that you have
 the amanda UDP 10080 service defined in the file.

Did this already everything looks fine. I set it up just like another client
that works to this server.

 
 2. Check your /etc/inetd.conf file or /etc/xinetd.d file(s) have the 
 appropriate entries for amanda (I use Amanda at work on a Tru64 UNIX system
 and my home server is Fedora Core 3, your mileage may vary)

I also did this already, again everthing looks good.


 
 3. Check the contents of the /tmp/amanda debug files from the amcheck

from the server's debug file:

amcheck: debug 1 pid 26575 ruid 33 euid 0 start time Mon Feb 7 21:11:33 2005
amcheck: dgram_bind: socket bound to 0.0.0.0.932
amcheck: pid 26575 finish time Mon Feb 7 21:12:03 2005

I get the following in the client's secure log file?

Feb 7 21:13:32 clients name xinetd[1338]: START: amanda pid=17335
from=server ip
 
I substituted client name and server ip for the actual server and client

 operation to get more detailed explanations of why the operation is
 failing.
 
 Best wishes,
 
 Don
 
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 Information Technology
 Exelon Corporation
 
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 On my amanda server (redhat 7.3) I'm running amanda-server-2.4.2p2-7 and on
 the client I'm running amanda-client-2.4.4p1-0.3E (RedHat ES). I keep
 getting
 selfcheck request timed out when I try to run amcheck on the server? Is
 this caused by the different versions??
 
 
 
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#amanda freenode irc channel

2005-02-08 Thread Gavin Henry
Hi all,

Who hangs aroung here, and what are your nicks?

I'm G2

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Re: client version varies from server

2005-02-08 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 08 February 2005 06:25, Don Carlton wrote:
On Mon, 7 Feb 2005 22:01:32 -0500

 Gene Heskett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Monday 07 February 2005 14:40, Don Carlton wrote:
 On my amanda server (redhat 7.3) I'm running
  amanda-server-2.4.2p2-7 and on the client I'm running
  amanda-client-2.4.4p1-0.3E (RedHat ES). I keep getting
  selfcheck request timed out when I try to run amcheck on the
  server? Is this caused by the different versions??

 I've never seen that be the case.  Normally when you get a
 selfcheck request timeout, something has gone gaga in the
 networking or the server setup.  Is this a new install?

The client is a new install.

Does it have the proper ~/.amandahosts file?  And, is the user:group 
defined for the client the same as for the server?

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Re: AMLABEL

2005-02-08 Thread Brian Cuttler

And assuming that c does enable compression on your solaris
system the difference (at least on my drives) between h and u
is also the HW compression, though both are highest density 
(on devices where its offered).

On Mon, Feb 07, 2005 at 10:48:27PM -0500, Jon LaBadie wrote:
 On Mon, Feb 07, 2005 at 10:06:09PM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
  On Monday 07 February 2005 18:31, Paul Bijnens wrote:
  Gil Naveh wrote:
   Gene - thanks for trying to help,
  
   Currently the only reason that I can think of is that Amanda has
   not read correctly our tape drive so I am re-running
   #amtapetype -f /dev/rmt/0n
  
  Add an estimate value!  And it takes about 5 hours only. Without
  an estimate it takes a week or so.  Like this:
  
 amtapetype -f /dev/rmt/0n -e 200g
  
  On the other hand, writing a few bytes is enough to see it the drive
  works.
  
  About the problem: you did specify that device in your amanda.conf ?
  (I believe that was what Gene was hinting about.)
  
  Chuckle, yup.  Sometimes I get my tongue tangled up with my eyeteeth, 
  and can't see what I'm writing...  Corrections in that case are 
  always welcome. :-)
 
 With the ultrium it is less important about considering HW or SW
 compression.  But be aware that on Solaris whether HW compression
 is turned on or not is determined by the device you choose.  You
 will find lots of /dev/rmt/0xyz devices.  The xyz determines
 the properties of the device the driver will set upon opening it.
 
 Don't be fooled into assumptions about the various devices.  The
 c device is listed as compressed.  But that is the conventional
 use.  There is no certainty that it turns compression on for every
 device, or that devices without the c are no compression.  You
 will even have a c device for drives that are not capable of
 HW compression ;-)  Only way to tell is check the docs for the
 drive and settings for the driver.  And then I'd check it if I
 could.
 
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RE: AMLABEL - might be a bug in amtapetype

2005-02-08 Thread Gil Naveh
Hello and thanks,

So it turn out that my suspicious were correct.
After rerunning amtapetype twice on our Solaris 9 server I got the
configuration for Ultrium2-LTO slightly different and with the new results
amlabel worked fine :)
In the first run I got the following result:
define tapetype unknown-tapetype {
comment just produced by tapetype prog (hardware compression off)
length 207465 mbytes
filemark 939 kbytes
speed 17489 kps
}
But Amanda could not identify my tape drive.

In the second run I got the following results:
define tapetype unknown-tapetype {
comment just produced by tapetype prog (hardware compression off)
length 206819 mbytes
filemark 918 kbytes
speed 17477 kps
}
which worked fine.


Anyway, I'll publish the results for the Ultrium-LTO2 tape drive on Amanda's
website.

Thx,
gil


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jon LaBadie
Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 10:48 PM
To: amanda-users@amanda.org
Subject: Re: AMLABEL


On Mon, Feb 07, 2005 at 10:06:09PM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
 On Monday 07 February 2005 18:31, Paul Bijnens wrote:
 Gil Naveh wrote:
  Gene - thanks for trying to help,
 
  Currently the only reason that I can think of is that Amanda has
  not read correctly our tape drive so I am re-running
  #amtapetype -f /dev/rmt/0n
 
 Add an estimate value!  And it takes about 5 hours only. Without
 an estimate it takes a week or so.  Like this:
 
amtapetype -f /dev/rmt/0n -e 200g
 
 On the other hand, writing a few bytes is enough to see it the drive
 works.
 
 About the problem: you did specify that device in your amanda.conf ?
 (I believe that was what Gene was hinting about.)

 Chuckle, yup.  Sometimes I get my tongue tangled up with my eyeteeth,
 and can't see what I'm writing...  Corrections in that case are
 always welcome. :-)

With the ultrium it is less important about considering HW or SW
compression.  But be aware that on Solaris whether HW compression
is turned on or not is determined by the device you choose.  You
will find lots of /dev/rmt/0xyz devices.  The xyz determines
the properties of the device the driver will set upon opening it.

Don't be fooled into assumptions about the various devices.  The
c device is listed as compressed.  But that is the conventional
use.  There is no certainty that it turns compression on for every
device, or that devices without the c are no compression.  You
will even have a c device for drives that are not capable of
HW compression ;-)  Only way to tell is check the docs for the
drive and settings for the driver.  And then I'd check it if I
could.

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RE: AMLABEL - might be a bug in amtapetype

2005-02-08 Thread Gil Naveh
The issue I had was that the first time I run amtapetype the result was a
little off.
Which was painful because it takes a few hours to run it.
yet, it might not be a bug - the reason I put it in the subject was that
people would notice it.

Thx,
gil


-Original Message-
From: Paul Bijnens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 9:27 AM
To: Gil Naveh
Cc: amanda-users@amanda.org
Subject: Re: AMLABEL - might be a bug in amtapetype


Gil Naveh wrote:

 Hello and thanks,

 So it turn out that my suspicious were correct.

Which suspicions?

 After rerunning amtapetype twice on our Solaris 9 server I got the
 configuration for Ultrium2-LTO slightly different and with the new results
 amlabel worked fine :)
 In the first run I got the following result:
   define tapetype unknown-tapetype {
   comment just produced by tapetype prog (hardware compression off)
   length 207465 mbytes
   filemark 939 kbytes
   speed 17489 kps
   }
 But Amanda could not identify my tape drive.

 In the second run I got the following results:
   define tapetype unknown-tapetype {
   comment just produced by tapetype prog (hardware compression off)
   length 206819 mbytes
   filemark 918 kbytes
   speed 17477 kps
   }
 which worked fine.


 Anyway, I'll publish the results for the Ultrium-LTO2 tape drive on
Amanda's
 website.

And what kind of bug have you found, as the subject seems to imply?


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Re: client version varies from server

2005-02-08 Thread Don Carlton
It looks like it might be a firewall issue on the server? Does anyone know
what the minimum server rules and client rules would be in
iptables/ipchains?




On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 07:44:25 -0500
 Gene Heskett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Tuesday 08 February 2005 06:25, Don Carlton wrote:
 On Mon, 7 Feb 2005 22:01:32 -0500
 
  Gene Heskett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Monday 07 February 2005 14:40, Don Carlton wrote:
  On my amanda server (redhat 7.3) I'm running
   amanda-server-2.4.2p2-7 and on the client I'm running
   amanda-client-2.4.4p1-0.3E (RedHat ES). I keep getting
   selfcheck request timed out when I try to run amcheck on the
   server? Is this caused by the different versions??
 
  I've never seen that be the case.  Normally when you get a
  selfcheck request timeout, something has gone gaga in the
  networking or the server setup.  Is this a new install?
 
 The client is a new install.
 
 Does it have the proper ~/.amandahosts file?  And, is the user:group 
 defined for the client the same as for the server?
 
  --
  Cheers, Gene
  There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
   soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order.
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Re: AMLABEL - might be a bug in amtapetype

2005-02-08 Thread Paul Bijnens
Gil Naveh wrote:
The issue I had was that the first time I run amtapetype the result was a
little off.
Which was painful because it takes a few hours to run it.
yet, it might not be a bug - the reason I put it in the subject was that
people would notice it.
No, it's not a bug.  That's real life with tapes.
Not all tapes have exactly the same length.  Even the temperature
has a measurable influence on tapecapacity.
Also when writing to tape, the drive verifies the data, and rewrites
any block that contains an uncorrectable error, up to a certain time
(15 sometimes).  These soft errors also take up tape capacity.
Furthermore, if the drive has to pause, because the data is not
delivered fast enough to the drive, it takes a few inches to stop the 
tape, rewind and restart again, leaving a little gap between the blocks
again.
That's why you should specify a little lower value than the one that
amtapetype measured.

All that said, when using an LTO drive, you may have hardware 
compression enabled anyway, because the hw compr algorithm in those
drives does not expand uncompressable data.  Which gives you the
opportunity to mix hardware and software compression, using whatever
method for each host/disk that fits best (slow host= only hardware 
compression, slow network = software compression on client etc.)


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amdump: timeout

2005-02-08 Thread Wim Zwitser
Hi all,
amcheck detects no problem on the server and on client maxwell.
But amdump stops after a timeout:
FAILURE AND STRANGE DUMP SUMMARY:
 maxwell/data/backup/Sat lev 0 FAILED [Estimate timeout from maxwell]
What can this be?
Thank you,
Wim Zwitser



Re: VXA-2 packet-loader issues and AMANDA [Fwd: hard luck with the new autoloader]

2005-02-08 Thread Eric Siegerman
On Mon, Feb 07, 2005 at 04:41:17PM -0500, Jon LaBadie wrote:
 Can on look at the device connectors, or better yet, the external connectors,
 and tell if a device is LVD or SE?  Or does one have to check the HW doc?

I have no idea.  Sorry.

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Re: client version varies from server

2005-02-08 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 08 February 2005 10:00, Don Carlton wrote:
It looks like it might be a firewall issue on the server? Does
 anyone know what the minimum server rules and client rules
 would be in iptables/ipchains?

I believe all that is covered in the docs, and of late there is a 
special iptables module just for amanda if you are running on linux, 
2.6 series kernels newer than 2.6.8-1 have it I think.  But don't 
make me lay my hand on the good book to say that, I could be wrong as 
I've not had to contend with that here, everything I'm doing is 
behind the firewall.


On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 07:44:25 -0500

 Gene Heskett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Tuesday 08 February 2005 06:25, Don Carlton wrote:
 On Mon, 7 Feb 2005 22:01:32 -0500
 
  Gene Heskett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Monday 07 February 2005 14:40, Don Carlton wrote:
  On my amanda server (redhat 7.3) I'm running
   amanda-server-2.4.2p2-7 and on the client I'm running
   amanda-client-2.4.4p1-0.3E (RedHat ES). I keep getting
   selfcheck request timed out when I try to run amcheck on
   the server? Is this caused by the different versions??
 
  I've never seen that be the case.  Normally when you get a
  selfcheck request timeout, something has gone gaga in the
  networking or the server setup.  Is this a new install?
 
 The client is a new install.

 Does it have the proper ~/.amandahosts file?  And, is the
 user:group defined for the client the same as for the server?

  --
  Cheers, Gene
  There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
   soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order.
  -Ed Howdershelt (Author)
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Re: AMLABEL - might be a bug in amtapetype

2005-02-08 Thread Jon LaBadie
On Tue, Feb 08, 2005 at 09:47:17AM -0500, Gil Naveh wrote:
 The issue I had was that the first time I run amtapetype the result was a
 little off.

I would not consider them different at all.

capacity, differed by 0.31 percent
filemark, differed by 3.41 percent (and only 0.00045% of capacity)
speed,differed by 0.06 percent


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Re: AMLABEL

2005-02-08 Thread Jon LaBadie
On Tue, Feb 08, 2005 at 10:04:40AM +0100, Paul Bijnens wrote:
 Jon LaBadie wrote:
 
 With the ultrium it is less important about considering HW or SW
 compression.  But be aware that on Solaris whether HW compression
 is turned on or not is determined by the device you choose.  You
 will find lots of /dev/rmt/0xyz devices.  The xyz determines
 the properties of the device the driver will set upon opening it.
 
 Don't be fooled into assumptions about the various devices.  The
 c device is listed as compressed.  But that is the conventional
 use.  There is no certainty that it turns compression on for every
 device, or that devices without the c are no compression.  You
 will even have a c device for drives that are not capable of
 HW compression ;-)  Only way to tell is check the docs for the
 drive and settings for the driver.  And then I'd check it if I
 could.
 
 
 Indeed.
 
 And check the file st.init, where the letters get their meaning.
 

Paul, I'm unfamiliar with the file st.init.
Nor do I find one on my system.
Did you mean the st.conf file in /kernel/drv?

If the st.conf file, I don't find an entries for any lto's I
recognize.  One poster said it was builtin to the driver,
another said they had to edit the file and add an entry.

The drive docs would probably still be needed to interpret
the entry.

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Re: AMLABEL - might be a bug in amtapetype

2005-02-08 Thread Jon LaBadie
On Tue, Feb 08, 2005 at 04:02:29PM +0100, Paul Bijnens wrote:
 
 All that said, when using an LTO drive, you may have hardware 
 compression enabled anyway, because the hw compr algorithm in those
 drives does not expand uncompressable data.

Maybe the amtapetype message should be revised to something like:

   hardware compression off (or drive uses a dynamic compression algorithm)

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Re: amdump: timeout

2005-02-08 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 08 February 2005 10:44, Wim Zwitser wrote:
Hi all,

amcheck detects no problem on the server and on client maxwell.
But amdump stops after a timeout:

FAILURE AND STRANGE DUMP SUMMARY:
  maxwell/data/backup/Sat lev 0 FAILED [Estimate timeout from
 maxwell]

What can this be?

An indication that maxwell is too slow, and you need to increase 
'etimeout' in the amanda.conf?  In which event, dtimeout may also 
need an increase from the default 10 minutes (600 seconds).  Or that 
the DLE's are too big and should be further divided into smaller 
pieces maybe?  This last would shrink the estimate times per DLE.

Personally, I'd like to see, just because data grows forever, an 
increase in these defaults, I think our average system has about 
outgrown them.  Storage capacities of the commodity drives of today 
have grown at 4x the clock speeds of the cpu managing them in the 
last 5 years.

Thank you,
Wim Zwitser

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Re: AMLABEL - might be a bug in amtapetype

2005-02-08 Thread Paul Bijnens
Jon LaBadie wrote:
On Tue, Feb 08, 2005 at 04:02:29PM +0100, Paul Bijnens wrote:
All that said, when using an LTO drive, you may have hardware 
compression enabled anyway, because the hw compr algorithm in those
drives does not expand uncompressable data.

Maybe the amtapetype message should be revised to something like:
   hardware compression off (or drive uses a dynamic compression algorithm)
Actually the message is still correct.
amtapetype does detect if hw compr is enabled.
And you would notice the effect if you wrote without software compression.
The fact that the algorithm does not expand data is something else.
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Re: AMLABEL - might be a bug in amtapetype

2005-02-08 Thread Jon LaBadie
On Tue, Feb 08, 2005 at 05:53:43PM +0100, Paul Bijnens wrote:
 Jon LaBadie wrote:
 
 On Tue, Feb 08, 2005 at 04:02:29PM +0100, Paul Bijnens wrote:
 
 All that said, when using an LTO drive, you may have hardware 
 compression enabled anyway, because the hw compr algorithm in those
 drives does not expand uncompressable data.
 
 
 Maybe the amtapetype message should be revised to something like:
 
hardware compression off (or drive uses a dynamic compression algorithm)
 
 
 Actually the message is still correct.
 amtapetype does detect if hw compr is enabled.
 And you would notice the effect if you wrote without software compression.
 The fact that the algorithm does not expand data is something else.


My misreading of your statement.  I missed the when using an LTO drive
and thought you meant hardware compression might have been on when
amtapetype was run but could have been fooled.

Sorry bout dat.
jl
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Re: amdump: timeout

2005-02-08 Thread Paul Bijnens
Wim Zwitser wrote:
FAILURE AND STRANGE DUMP SUMMARY:
 maxwell/data/backup/Sat lev 0 FAILED [Estimate timeout from maxwell]
What can this be?
Parameter etimeout in amanda.conf?
To see how large to set it to, have a look on the client maxwell in
the debug files /tmp/amanda/sendsize.DATATIME.debug
and see how long the estimate did take.
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Amanda security with Kerberos

2005-02-08 Thread gil naveh
hi,

I am a little confused regarding adding security to
Amanda.
In the past I posted a question regarding adding
security to Amanda - 
We have a Solaris 9 machine which is Amanda server and
a remote Solaris 9 machine which is Amanda client.
We need the data that is transferring from the client
to the server be secure.
People have kindly answered my question but I am still
confused.
Some have suggested to use sftp or ssh - bring those
files to the server and then backing it up locally.
However, by implementing this technique I am over
loading the network - because I have to ssh or sftp
all files daily instead of letting Amanda get only the
changes (level 0,1 etc). But is there a way to
implement ssh/sftp with Amanda? 


Anyway I am trying to implement Kerberos and I have a
few questions about it.
I am trying to follow the documentation in Amanda for
kerberos - so far I downloaded the file
amanda-krb4-2.4.0p1.tar.gz - I unzipped it and tared
it (tar xvf). Yet I don't know what the next step
should be - configure+make??? Additionally the
KERBEROS doc for Amanda under the INSTALLATION section
says:
 2. INSTALLATION
   The kerberized Amanda service uses a different port
on the client hosts.
   The /etc/services line is:

   kamanda  10081/udp 

Then what should be the host on the server site?
Finally how can I test that Kerberos encryption works
with Amanda?

Please note that our Amanda server and client are
Solaris 9 boxes but in the future we might implement
it on Win boxes (is it feasible to implement Kerberos
on Win box?)

Thanks much,
gil




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Re: Amanda security with Kerberos

2005-02-08 Thread Matt Hyclak
On Tue, Feb 08, 2005 at 12:05:06PM -0800, gil naveh enlightened us:
 I am a little confused regarding adding security to
 Amanda.
 In the past I posted a question regarding adding
 security to Amanda - 
 We have a Solaris 9 machine which is Amanda server and
 a remote Solaris 9 machine which is Amanda client.
 We need the data that is transferring from the client
 to the server be secure.
 People have kindly answered my question but I am still
 confused.
 Some have suggested to use sftp or ssh - bring those
 files to the server and then backing it up locally.
 However, by implementing this technique I am over
 loading the network - because I have to ssh or sftp
 all files daily instead of letting Amanda get only the
 changes (level 0,1 etc). But is there a way to
 implement ssh/sftp with Amanda? 
 
 
 Anyway I am trying to implement Kerberos and I have a
 few questions about it.
 I am trying to follow the documentation in Amanda for
 kerberos - so far I downloaded the file
 amanda-krb4-2.4.0p1.tar.gz - I unzipped it and tared
 it (tar xvf). Yet I don't know what the next step
 should be - configure+make??? Additionally the
 KERBEROS doc for Amanda under the INSTALLATION section
 says:
  2. INSTALLATION
The kerberized Amanda service uses a different port
 on the client hosts.
The /etc/services line is:
 
kamanda  10081/udp 
 
 Then what should be the host on the server site?
 Finally how can I test that Kerberos encryption works
 with Amanda?
 
 Please note that our Amanda server and client are
 Solaris 9 boxes but in the future we might implement
 it on Win boxes (is it feasible to implement Kerberos
 on Win box?)
 

As far as I know, that only works with Kerberos 4, and I don't think much
stuff uses v4 anymore. You might take a look at

http://security.uchicago.edu/tools/gpg-amanda/

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Amanda security +Kerberos

2005-02-08 Thread Gil Naveh
hi,

I am a little confused regarding adding security to Amanda.
In the past I posted a question regarding adding security to Amanda -
We have a Solaris 9 machine which is Amanda server and a remote Solaris 9
machine which is Amanda client.
We need the data that is transferring from the client to the server be
secure.
People have kindly answered my question but I am still confused.
Some have suggested to use sftp or ssh - bring those files to the server and
then backing it up locally.
However, by implementing this technique I am over loading the network -
because I have to ssh or sftp all files daily instead of letting Amanda get
only the changes (level 0,1 etc). But is there a way to implement ssh/sftp
with Amanda?


Anyway I am trying to implement Kerberos and I have a few questions about
it.
I am trying to follow the documentation in Amanda for kerberos - so far I
downloaded the file amanda-krb4-2.4.0p1.tar.gz - I unzipped it and tared it
(tar xvf). Yet I don't know what the next step should be - configure+make???
Additionally the KERBEROS doc for Amanda under the INSTALLATION section
says:
 2. INSTALLATION
   The kerberized Amanda service uses a different port on the client hosts.
   The /etc/services line is:

   kamanda  10081/udp 

Then what should be the host on the server site?
Finally how can I test that Kerberos encryption works with Amanda?

Please note that our Amanda server and client are Solaris 9 boxes but in the
future we might implement it on Win boxes (is it feasible to implement
Kerberos on Win box?)

Thanks much,
gil