Re: Some noop questions (RAID with Amanda)

2007-11-12 Thread Marc Muehlfeld

[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:

Thanks for your help, I've mounted my amandadisks folder and everything is
alright. But do I have to mount  the holding folder too  or any log files?

 Actually I wonder what does the holding folder exactly do?

This depents on what you have and what you want. If you want to have the 
holdingdisk on the Raid-5-Array too, then yes. But the holdingdisk just stores 
the data before it's send to it's final destination (vtape, tape). After that 
it's cleared again.


http://wiki.zmanda.com/index.php/FAQ:Should_I_use_a_holdingdisk_when_the_final_destination_of_the_backup_is_a_virtual_tape%3F


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Copying data to new tapes

2007-11-12 Thread Marc Muehlfeld

Hi,

we used a Tandberg Superloader DLT Autoloader for offsite backups. Now I 
ordered a Tandberg Storageloader LTO3. Does anybody of you see a way to get 
the data of the old DTL to the new LTO3 tapes? Doing a 1-to-1 copy is wasting 
many space and money.


My only idea is restore everything on the old tapes to a huge place and backup 
it to LTO agin, isn't it? But this would be to much work.


Marc


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Re: Copying data to new tapes

2007-11-12 Thread Gerrit A. Smit -TI-
Op ma 12nov07 om 15:29 schreef Marc Muehlfeld:


 we used a Tandberg Superloader DLT Autoloader for offsite backups. Now I 
 ordered a Tandberg Storageloader LTO3. Does anybody of you see a way to get 
 the data of the old DTL to the new LTO3 tapes? Doing a 1-to-1 copy is wasting 
 many space and money.
 
 My only idea is restore everything on the old tapes to a huge place and backup
 it to LTO agin, isn't it? But this would be to much work.

You could write serveral DLT's to one LT03, using the non-rewind device
(which might be neede anyhow).

Gerrit


Re: Copying data to new tapes

2007-11-12 Thread Marc Muehlfeld

Gerrit A. Smit -TI- schrieb:

You could write serveral DLT's to one LT03, using the non-rewind device
(which might be neede anyhow).


But how ll Amanda handle this later?


Btw: You don't get engough mail, because you request a return receipt for your 
mailinglist posting? :-)



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Re: Copying data to new tapes

2007-11-12 Thread Sven Rudolph
Marc Muehlfeld [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 we used a Tandberg Superloader DLT Autoloader for offsite backups. Now
 I ordered a Tandberg Storageloader LTO3. Does anybody of you see a way
 to get the data of the old DTL to the new LTO3 tapes? Doing a 1-to-1
 copy is wasting many space and money.

 My only idea is restore everything on the old tapes to a huge place
 and backup it to LTO agin, isn't it? But this would be to much work.

When copying Amanda tapes to a larger media, I read all parts with dd
as long as the capacity of the new tape is reached and then I write
these parts to the new tape with dd.

In order to recover you should position the tape manually (with mt),
and you must disable amrecover_check_label in amanda.conf (otherwise
amrecovr would rewind and see the wrong tape label at the beginning of
the tape.

Sven




Re: Copying data to new tapes

2007-11-12 Thread Marc Muehlfeld

Sven Rudolph schrieb:

In order to recover you should position the tape manually (with mt),
and you must disable amrecover_check_label in amanda.conf (otherwise
amrecovr would rewind and see the wrong tape label at the beginning of
the tape.


Sounds good. I'll try that. How do I know the filemarks later where one tape 
ends and the new one beginns? Do I have to track this by myself on which 
position which tape is stored?



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Re: Copying data to new tapes

2007-11-12 Thread Sven Rudolph
Marc Muehlfeld [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Sven Rudolph schrieb:
 In order to recover you should position the tape manually (with mt),
 and you must disable amrecover_check_label in amanda.conf (otherwise
 amrecovr would rewind and see the wrong tape label at the beginning of
 the tape.

 Sounds good. I'll try that. How do I know the filemarks later where
 one tape ends and the new one beginns? Do I have to track this by
 myself on which position which tape is stored?

I create a listing, print it on paper and store it together with the
tape.

Sven
-
#!/bin/sh

# list_amanda_tape

usage()
{
echo $0 [--blocksize xxk] ntapedev
}

case $1 in
--blocksize)
blocksize=$2
shift; shift
;;
--*)usage 2
exit 1
;;
esac

TAPE=$1
[ -c $TAPE ] ||
{
usage 2
exit 1
}

mt -f $TAPE rewind
n=0

while line=$(dd if=$TAPE bs=32k count=1 2/dev/null | head -1 )
do
[ -n $line ] || break
printf '%03d ' $n
echo $line
mt -f $TAPE fsf
n=$((n+1))
done

mt -f $TAPE rewind



Re: Copying data to new tapes

2007-11-12 Thread Marc Muehlfeld

Sven Rudolph schrieb:

I create a listing, print it on paper and store it together with the
tape.


I'll get the new autoloader end of the week. I'll try your script then. Thanks.



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Re: Copying data to new tapes

2007-11-12 Thread Jean-Louis Martineau

amanda can't do it automaticaly, but it is planned.

You could restore everything on the holding disk and use amflush to 
flush them to the new tape.

amrecover will correctly works with the new tape.

if your blocksize on tape is 32k, it is a simple as:
 cd /holding/disk/path.
 mkdir 20070101010101
 cd 20070101010101
 for all old tapes
amrestore -r /device/name
 rm all dump that are complete.
 amflush

You should verify the result.

Jean-Louis


Marc Muehlfeld wrote:

Hi,

we used a Tandberg Superloader DLT Autoloader for offsite backups. Now 
I ordered a Tandberg Storageloader LTO3. Does anybody of you see a way 
to get the data of the old DTL to the new LTO3 tapes? Doing a 1-to-1 
copy is wasting many space and money.


My only idea is restore everything on the old tapes to a huge place 
and backup it to LTO agin, isn't it? But this would be to much work.


Marc






New Development in Amanda poster available

2007-11-12 Thread Dustin J. Mitchell
The poster I'll be presenting at LISA is online at
  http://www.zmanda.com/pdf/the-new-amanda.pdf
If you're at LISA, please do stop by and take a look at the real thing :)

Dustin

P.S. If anyone would like a copy of the Amanda logo in SVG format, let me know.

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http://www.zmanda.com


Re: Barcode labels for LTO, DLT, ...

2007-11-12 Thread Sven Rudolph
Dustin J. Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Nov 11, 2007 1:24 PM, Sven Rudolph [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 following the ideas from the discussion some months ago I implemented
 just another tool for creating barcode labels for tapes. It is written
 in Perl and uses the Barcode Writer in Pure PostScript. Currently it
 creates labels for DLT and LTO (Ultrium). I'd like it to become even more
 generic, but the way of specifying the label layout is still a bit
 inflexible. So I first want to show you what I did, and you can tell
 me what is needed...

 Neat!  As I understand it, this is a generic label-printing utility,
 which could be used with any backup software.  The code looks quite
 well-designed and extensible -- quite a feat for this sort of task.
 Are you interested in further integrating it into Amanda?

Currently the only Amanda-specific thing is that you can print a
descriptive label name in addition to the barcode text. In the default
configuration most barcode libraries use only 8 characters, and with
the tape type specifier (like L4, S4) you have only 6 characters. So I
wanted to print the label names used by Amanda (like Set1-Jan-01) on
the label.

 The label-printing that Amanda supports is a bit inflexible -- it's
 treated as a kind of report and (as you probably know) makes some
 assumptions about the format of the postscript template.

I think the barcode labels have another purpose: They identify the
media. Before I amlabel a tape, it gets its barcode label. (And
amlabel (together with the changer script) reads this and stores it in
an internal database.

On the other hand the amreport labels are used to list the content of
a tape. I use them for the off-site tapes in order to make a bare
metal restore (without the index files) easier. So I use both, the
barcode labels and the amreport-generated labels.

I'd be glad to see this used together with amanda, and it could be
good to distribute it together with amanda. But currently I don't see
a way to integrate it more closely.

Sven
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Re: New Development in Amanda poster available

2007-11-12 Thread Chris Hoogendyk



Dustin J. Mitchell wrote:

The poster I'll be presenting at LISA is online at
  http://www.zmanda.com/pdf/the-new-amanda.pdf
If you're at LISA, please do stop by and take a look at the real thing :)

Dustin

P.S. If anyone would like a copy of the Amanda logo in SVG format, let me know.
  


Awesome poster, Dustin.

Knock 'em out.

If I can get the gate keeper of our poster printer to let me, I'll print 
out a copy and put it up in my office. Not that I'll get a huge 
audience, but, hey, it'll be cool. Normally, people have to pony up 
$5/sqr ft for glossy color posters, so I may have to make do with a 
significantly smaller (11x17) non glossy color laser print.



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Re: New Development in Amanda poster available

2007-11-12 Thread Peter Kunst
Chris Hoogendyk wrote:
 
 
 Dustin J. Mitchell wrote:
 The poster I'll be presenting at LISA is online at
   http://www.zmanda.com/pdf/the-new-amanda.pdf
 If you're at LISA, please do stop by and take a look at the real thing :)

 Dustin

 P.S. If anyone would like a copy of the Amanda logo in SVG format, let
 me know.
   
 
 Awesome poster, Dustin.
 
 Knock 'em out.

ACK :-)

I know there is another (better) one around somewhere, but
http://catb.org/~esr/writings/taoup/html/graphics/timeline.pdf might be
one of them whenever comparing comparing *ix -- amanda :-) Or was it
http://www.oshistory.net/metadot/index.pl?id=2165 ?

Well done, Dustin !

 Cheers,
 Peter


Re: Some noop questions (RAID with Amanda)

2007-11-12 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 11/11/2007, Dustin J. Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 11/11/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Marc's right - this is a configure-time option.  Gentoo has some
 unusual defaults for Amanda's various configure options, although I
 don't see anything about sysconfdir, or defaulting to /usr/local.  Did
 you build from the ebuild?


At first I compiled Amanda from source, but I had some problems so I thought
it would be easier to just do the emerge so I deleted everything (I think)
and just emerged it.
So as you can see it's a mess and I'm not sure about the configuration :)