rather simple question around dumpcycle

2019-11-11 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger


At a customer we try to run 2 configs in parallel.

I discussed this setup here in the past, and bring it back up again ;-)

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We run a daily config with 58 tapes.
This is run on weekdays 1-4 only.

Until now we had:

dumpcycle 2 weeks
runspercycle 8

Would it be better to have

dumpcycle 8 days ?

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The 2nd config runs on FR and SAT: "weekly". With full backups only.

I want to force lev0 here and archive a set of tapes every 3 months ->
quartal and year archive sets.

I have 31 active tapes there right now, a full set of data takes around
4-5 tapes.

What parameters do you users use for such a setup?

dumpcycle? runspercycle?

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I'd appreciate optimization tips here. It seems my dumpcycles are too
short so I get issues with too much data dumped per week etc


Re: rather simple question around dumpcycle

2019-11-11 Thread Debra S Baddorf



> On Nov 11, 2019, at 10:34 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger  wrote:
> 
> 
> At a customer we try to run 2 configs in parallel.
> 
> I discussed this setup here in the past, and bring it back up again ;-)
> 
> -
> 
> We run a daily config with 58 tapes.
> This is run on weekdays 1-4 only.
> 
> Until now we had:
> 
> dumpcycle 2 weeks
> runspercycle 8
> 
> Would it be better to have
> 
> dumpcycle 8 days ?
> 
> -
> 
> The 2nd config runs on FR and SAT: "weekly". With full backups only.
> 
> I want to force lev0 here and archive a set of tapes every 3 months ->
> quartal and year archive sets.
> 
> I have 31 active tapes there right now, a full set of data takes around
> 4-5 tapes.
> 
> What parameters do you users use for such a setup?
> 
> dumpcycle? runspercycle?
> 
> -
> 
> I'd appreciate optimization tips here. It seems my dumpcycles are too
> short so I get issues with too much data dumped per week etc


I run a similar config:  daily for everyday   (we include Saturday and Sunday 
too,
cuz some people work then & make important changes - no big difference for you).
I think you are good with config1  being “2 weeks,  runspercycle 8”.   That 
means it will do a FULL
on each disk at least once every 2 weeks.Doing it once every 8 days is NOT 
really
what you want.


My alternate config is run once a month,  but I think my params would work for 
your
“every weekend” too.
dumpcycle 0 #  I plan to run it whenever I want to
tapecycle   9000   #  I will always give you a fresh tape.   You would say 31.
runtimes  3#  the max you’ll allow to catch all the level-0 backups

My dumptype definition includes
strategy noinc   #don’t even calculate partial sizes
skip-incr yes  # belt and suspenders
record no #  daily incrementals are based on the daily level-0s.
  #  If I let this record,  I think that messes the daily 
incrementals.

And in true belt-plus-suspender-plus physically holding up the pants:
I run a cronjob before each archive run that does 
  amadmin   force  *   
  (test this a little, manually — I found I needed to do   force 
*..  )

Hope this is a little help.

Deb Baddorf
Fermilab




Re: rather simple question around dumpcycle

2019-11-11 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 11.11.19 um 22:10 schrieb Debra S Baddorf:

> runtimes  3#  the max you’ll allow to catch all the level-0 backups

that parameter is not recognized here ;-)

Aside from that: thanks a lot for your feedback, Debra


Re: rather simple question around dumpcycle

2019-11-11 Thread Jon LaBadie
On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 05:34:14PM +0100, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
> 
> At a customer we try to run 2 configs in parallel.
> 
> I discussed this setup here in the past, and bring it back up again ;-)
> 
> -
> 
> We run a daily config with 58 tapes.
> This is run on weekdays 1-4 only.
> 
> Until now we had:
> 
> dumpcycle 2 weeks
> runspercycle 8
> 
> Would it be better to have
> 
> dumpcycle 8 days ?
> 
> -
> 
> The 2nd config runs on FR and SAT: "weekly". With full backups only.
> 
> I want to force lev0 here and archive a set of tapes every 3 months ->
> quartal and year archive sets.
> 
> I have 31 active tapes there right now, a full set of data takes around
> 4-5 tapes.
> 
> What parameters do you users use for such a setup?
> 
> dumpcycle? runspercycle?
> 
> -
> 
> I'd appreciate optimization tips here. It seems my dumpcycles are too
> short so I get issues with too much data dumped per week etc
>>> End of included message <<<

What about a single config incremental only.

Via crontab, force level 0's when you want,
maybe every other weekend FRI & SAT.

The SAT dump serves as level 0's for the incrementals.

The FRI dump can be used for your archiving as needed.
Take the tape out of use but retain logs etc.  Add a
new tape to keep the same # of tapes in use.

Jon
-- 
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 Reston, VA  20190  (703) 935-6720 (C)


Re: rather simple question around dumpcycle

2019-11-11 Thread Debra S Baddorf



> On Nov 11, 2019, at 4:24 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger  wrote:
> 
> Am 11.11.19 um 22:10 schrieb Debra S Baddorf:
> 
>> runtimes  3#  the max you’ll allow to catch all the level-0 backups
> 
> that parameter is not recognized here ;-)
> 
> Aside from that: thanks a lot for your feedback, Debra


I thing that was an “autocorrect”  aka  “monkey correct”
runtapes 

(Yup,  I WATCHED it change it to the wrong thing, this time.   But I insisted!)

Deb